The Breaks

Fresh takes it solo in this first episode of 2024 by giving a forecast of what this new year might have to offer in the world of hip-hop. In terms of resolutions, let’s try and have less “streets” and more music in terms of violence! And while Spotify may be skimping on some payouts, Fresh’s Unpopular Opinion makes it clear – streaming services AREN’T evil.

The full transcript of this episode of The Breaks is available on the KUT & KUTX Studio website. The transcript is also available as subtitles or captions on some podcast apps.

Fresh Knight [00:00:01] I’m Fresh. And you are now listening to the Breaks podcast. These are highlights from our Saturday night hip hop show on Kut 98 9 in Austin, Texas. My co-host Confucius Jones and I are native Austinites and we love talking to hip hop, Texas hip hop, hip hop, history, and what’s going on right now. And just so you know, the opinions expressed in the podcast are our own and do not necessarily reflect the position of Kut in Austin.

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Fresh Knight [00:00:56] It’s 2024, so I kind of just want to rundown what I’m looking forward to in the new year, whether it be the breaks, career wise, music in general. I guess I’m gonna kick it off. Like I say at the top of the show, I’m looking forward to adding things to the breaks and giving you guys a better experience and growing the brand that is the breaks. Um, everyone has been asking for video content. If they we have video content or if it’s just audio, we will be attempting to give you all video content in 2024. Can’t say when, but I can say that it is. It has been in the works, so I’m looking forward to that. So y’all can really seewhen me and Confucius do go at it just do go at it how it really goes. It is quite entertaining. Also I think Confucius Reads the News, reads the news. Video wise we’ll get a better response from people when you get to see him do his Daily Show person. As far as music goes, I’m just looking forward to, as we say, at the end of the year and into 2023, what the reset. Will be for rap music. I think me and Confucius mentioned. One of our last shows that we feel like a reset is coming, much like how rock and roll had a reset with grunge music from the big hair and glam rock of the 80s. I think something is coming within rap that will kind of. I don’t want to keep saying reset, but I think something’s coming that will kind of put things back the way that people kind of want them to go when it comes to rap music. I

think underground artists have shined brighter in the last few years from the Griseldsa, The Currency, the Larry Jones, the Rock, Marciano’s, the Boldy James’s, the Earl Sweatshirt. I think a lot has been put on them and shine brighter. I think that only gets bigger in 2024. And as we say, women aren’t going to stop. But I do think you get a little more diversity out of women, whether it be the women who have a name, start really pushing the more grounded songs, or you get more artists who are coming with a little bit more versatility with the raps. I think that continues and just comes really full force and full effect in 2024. I don’t think much changes, but I do think some things die down. Um, I know a big thing in 2023. I won’t say a big thing, but I will say I think one thing in 2023 that most people complained about was the violence in music. While I don’t think it stops. I think it kind of takes a backseat to everything else. I think the heavy, heavy street element drill. I really hope drill goes away, because after the video I saw with Fivio and the white rapper he signed, I. I just think that it’s time. It’s time to wrap it up. I think somebody said, I think Joe Budden said we had like another five years of drill left to go, but I think 2024, maybe 2025 is the time we get New York drill out of here. Because, boy, some of the stuff y’all are doing is just embarrassing. I’m embarrassed and I’m not even from New York. Contrary to what Confucius says. Uh, but yeah, I, I’m looking forward to just what ever comes in rap that changes the landscape as it does as a landscape does every few or couple of years in music, period. It’s going to be something that’s going to change it. Maybe it is.

I maybe AI really finally takes over. I know I think it was Atlantic that tried that. I a rapper signing in I rapper and I didn’t go really well. I just think they figured that we didn’t they didn’t plan it out properly. But 2024 might be the year that and I think 2024 will be the year rappers start using AI generated lyrics. I think that’s coming. Some people say it is already here. I heard Joe Budden say he can tell when there is an AI generated verse. He can tell when the rappers voice is AI generated. I can’t really tell, but if he can shout out to him. But I think we get to that point and I think Kanye West is going to really usher that in. Uh, I really think it will be Kanye. I’d see that being Kanye because I see Kanye doing it and then marketing it as this is just genius You see what I’m doing? Y’all not doing this, man. And I think he’s going to be the most profound lyrics if he hasn’t already done it and just has not said anything. And I think he’s going to spin it to say that it is me writing this my thoughts is just formatting what I’m trying to say and get it out, which I think personally Kanye needs an AI generator to for his thoughts because boy, if y’all still can’t tell he’s being manic, I don’t know what to tell y’all. Oh man, his last little rant he was. He was rather manic. But in that’s neither here nor there, man. Well yeah, I think the landscape changes a bit in 2024 and I’m looking forward to it.

I’m looking forward to seeing what rap grows into as we enter the 51st year of the culture of hip hop. And I think the culture shines a little more brighter in hip hop. And for those who don’t understand, hip hop is the culture. Rap is what you do. Rap is simply an aspect of the overarching culture of hip hop. There are four pillars of hip hop. There is graffiti, b boying, which would also classify as just dance, rap or MC and the DJ. Those are the four pillars of hip hop and I think the culture shines a little more brighter. I think for the larger part of the last 50 years it’s been just the music being pushed forward, but I think the rest of it shines bright. We’re all, I think towards the end of 2023, we already really saw dancing coming back. Now I’m not saying people are going to go back to breakdancing, but you are seeing rappers do choreographed dancing and music videos and at the live shows, Offset’s up there popping a lot going on stage. T grizzly had a whole. Dance routine in his last video. Confucius has said several times on here that little baby had choreography in his show, which I am dying to see, and I also know he hired Teyana Taylor as creative director for his last tour, and part of that was choreography. So I think we get a little bit of the early 90s back. I think we get the dancing back into it, into hip hop, in the rap music, so I’m looking forward to that because I think it’s fun and I think if that happens, we see a really a big resurgence of Soulja Boy because we know Soulja Boy does that. We know, we know. Well, uh, yeah, I think just like I said, I think the culture just shines a little brighert. I think art comes through, push it through a little more, through more this year. Maybe not graffiti because graffiti hasn’t really gone away. But I think the very visual, artistic aspect of hip hop kind of comes through a bit more for me. And I hope and I hope it does, because I think that that’s kind of help with kind of this quote unquote decline of hip hop. The creativity all around has kind of just languished in the culture. And I need that. I need that, and I think the culture needs it to come back. But, uh, those are the things that I’m kind of looking forward to in 2024.

So with that being said, getting into the second topic, man, oh, I really wish Confucius was here to discuss this one, cause I think he would have some great insight. On it or views, I would say, and takes on it. For those who are unaware, the rapper Uncle Murder does a yearly recap every new year, and this year his 2023 wrap up was in three parts. He basically talks about all the big topics and big news and headlines that happen within rap throughout the year. And one of those topics happened to be violence in Hip-Hop. I think he brought up that how they no rapper in 2023 died from like violence and that was big. So I think we all took that as a win. I think those that did pass, it wasn’t violently like nobody was shot or anything like that. People just happened to be sick, man. You know, things happen. Natural causes, natural causes. There we go. So it got me thinking. And I think one thing that hip hop as a culture needs is less of the streets. Now, if you’ve followed hip hop since its inception, or at least since the 80s, there’s always been a street element in it. Whether it was the street guys having the money to book an LL CoolJ for his first show, or really book Run-D.M.C. or all those guys in New York, or they being the ones to have the money to start a label to sign and artists to help push them forward. It’s always been a quote unquote street element within hip hop, but I think somewhere along the lines it became very overt and like it was the presence you just knew was there and you felt was there. And then I think everybody just ran to where these guys come from, that environment. It’s kind of hard to just let that go and, you know, live a different life when you’ve come from the streets and you’ve been a part of the streets. Yes, I understand that aspect. If you grew up in Los Angeles, in the greater Los Angeles area, and you grew up around gangs or you were a gang banger. Yeah, I can see it being hard for you to just change that. But I also think you have to understand that now that you are signed to a major label and making money, that things kind of have to change and you can’t carry yourself within the industry the way you carried yourself pre industry. I just think that works.

Um, Jeezy once told a story one time a how T.I. came to a studio or came to where he was one time, and he was recording and he had all his money on floor, and T.I. was like, yo, man, you can’t do both. You can’t be in streets and be in industry. You can’t have one foot in and one foot out is not going to work like that. Like something is going to come in, other shoe is going to drop and it’s not going to be good. You have to pick one. And I think that’s what hip hop is kind of missing, is people just making a hard line in the sand and picking one side, either going to be in street or you either going to be a musician. And I think musician is the more lucrative side and less of a risk. But the gist of what I’m saying is, is that I think the element of the street in hip hop has just been so overtly that people continue to conduct themselves as if they are in the streets. So if there is a quote unquote rap beef, they handle it as if they were in the streets. And I think that’s something that I think we all want to see less of. And I just want y’all to rap. Y’all are rappers. Once you step in the booth and you write your 16 and you record it and you release it, you are a rapper. I know Jay-Z did the whole line that I’m not a business. I’m not a businessman. I’m a businessman and I’m not a rapper. I’m a hustler. He a rapper, a Jay-Z. No, he’s a rapper. It was just cool to say, y’all are rappers. Y’all rap. That is your job. Rap. If you got a problem with somebody, rap. All the social media stuff is fodder. That’s cool. Is funny at times. But rap, man, rap. You don’t have to handle this in a street capacity. You don’t have to see somebody and swinging on them. Now, if they swing on you or they try to cause harm to you, that’s a totally different thing at that point of self-defense. But when the initial issue is taken, uh, or has happened, rap man, just rap. If somebody 21 I think recently before 2023, ended 21 Savage and Kodak Black had a little tiff or whatever it was, and I think it sparked from 21 Savage saying, man, I’ll wash everybody or I rap better than everybody. On the XXL cover that I was on I was on freshman cover that I was on Kodak Black and just happened to be a part of that freshman class, and he felt away. And my response to that is rap. If a man says that, he raps better than you don’t get on the internet making threats rap, you making threats doesn’t prove anything. You getting on there, talking big doesn’t prove anything, he said. He rap. He will wash all of y’all. So if you feel otherwise then show it otherwise. Rap I need y’all to get back to being rappers and rap. I need y’all to get back to that L.L. cool J energy. If he had a problem with somebody or somebody had a problem with L.L. cool J, they wasn’t waiting till they got to New York to see other cool J to try to smacking their. You got on a song and they rap. Of course everybody they went at it. Look who J got devoured. Well, except cannabis is cannabis kind of kind of got him. But yeah, man, rap just. I need y’all to rap. I need rappers to be rappers. I understand there are artists who haven’t made it big and haven’t gotten a major label deal, or haven’t made the lucrative amount of money from their music. So they are still out doing whatever it is they doing to kind of fund their life and their music. I get it, I totally get it. But also keep in mind, why are you out there doing whatever it is that you’re doing? You have now put yourself in a position to be a musician and be a rapper, and you can’t continue to do that if you are locked up. You can’t continue to do that if you are laid up in a hospital because you are still carrying on. As if you are conducting yourself in the streets. And this is more so for once you really hit and get into the industry. Once you are in industry and you are canoodling and rubbing shoulders with the label execs and the big stars and all of this, you are now in industry, my friend, and you have to conduct yourself as if you are in the industry. I know you are going to try to give me all of these other examples of people who have conducted themselves, like they maneuver in the street, like a 50 cent, and I will say, I’ve never seen a 50 cent swing on anybody. I know there have been some incidents, young Buck at the Vibe Awards and the stabbing. Yeah. And he reportedly also had to duck out and hide in Mexico too. So that’s not really fun. He shot I think he shot his video for like Buck the World in Mexico because he couldn’t come back here. And Mexico has no extradition. Fun fact um, but like 50 cent talks a lot of trash, but he keeps it within the confines of music, like he will make a song or he’ll just be on social media cracking jokes like it’s not. I don’t think he takes it as that big a deal, and he realizes violence hinders my money, and I like making money so I can sit on the internet all day and crack a joke and laugh and talk my mess to somebody else I don’t ever like. It’s not as serious for me, man. I’m not doing this to provoke a physical response from you. I’m just having fun. And this is this drives attention toward me and my name and my brand, and it’s easy for me to promote now. It’s easy for me to promote what I have to promote toward these people because they are now paying attention. I think people have to get into artist, have to get into that mindset. It’s not that it’s not a serious man. Rap beef isn’t that serious. And I know a lot of oil. I mean, I’m from the streets being is, you know, not really know what beef is cool. This ain’t that keep pushing rap.

The gist of this is I just really need y’all to rap, man. I just really want you out or just get back to rapping if you got a problem with somebody rap. Nicki Minaj has a problem with practically nearly every woman in the industry. It seems like you know what she does. She talks a mess and interviews and all of that, but she also raps. She also raps. If she has a problem with Cardi, she throws a shot. If she has a problem with me, she throws a shot. In the song, she raps, man, she raps and I applaud her for just simply keeping it in the music. Like I got a problem with you, you got or you don’t like me. I’m a rap about it, just rap. All the flaws Nicki Minaj has. I applaud her on that one platter on that one. That’s not really a flow, but y’all know what I’m saying. Just rap man. I think less street, more music in 2024 and the culture and hip hop will be much better once again. Like I said earlier, I don’t think rapping about the streets goes away. That’s going to continue to happen, because that is that lifestyle is a reality in the things that put one into their position to be in their lifestyle are a real thing in this world, specifically in this country. So I don’t think those things go away. But I also don’t think you want to get a bunch of rappers who just are rapping about how will they rap, but I think you get a little more creativity when you don’t have to be so overtly violent in the music. I hope that makes sense.

We’re taking a quick break. Be right back.

And now let’s get into some hip hop facts, man. Segment won’t be as long as it normally is because my cohort is not here. But I got some facts for you. I got some facts for you. So my first fact I did bring up Nicki Minaj in the last segment. So let’s do a whole fact about her here. I brought up Nicki Minaj and 50 cent, so apparently Nicki Minaj was almost signed to 50 Cent’s G-Unit, which makes sense because they’re from they’re both from Queens and they’re both from the same neighborhood in the borough of Queens, New York, both from South Side Jamaica. But she didn’t end up being signed because there was an issue with one of her older managers, which I believe at that time was Big Fenty. Um, unclear of what the issue was, but I could probably imagine I’ve heard some things about Fendi before and about him managing Nicki Minaj and kind of the things that he was asking labels for at that time. And Jinyan is also part of Interscope, so I can believe Interscope. He probably asked something in Interscope, which is probably now we’re not doing that. Like she’s not that big of a star. We are unaware of her stardom to be whatever it was. So I get that.

Next up, rapper Scarface, who ended 2023 with one of the best Tiny Desk concert that was released in 2023. I think there was an event out in Houston celebrating 50 years of hip hop for Houston rap Bun B was the house and I guess, um, what did the word moderator and he ask our face about his early days in Scarface, went into detail about how before he was a rapper, he was a DJ who went by DJ action, and Scarface says that he’s still probably a better DJ in like 85% of the guys who DJ today, which if they’re so, boy, I got to step it up. But I also, well, I didn’t learn that Scarface played the guitar. I know he played the guitar, but he was tiny. Dash did show his guitar playing skills, so if you haven’t checked out Scarface, his Tiny Desk, I suggest you do so. It is beautiful. Bill. Thank you for doing majora.

And lastly, my fact is about Diddy who has been in the news a lot lately. Most def before being signed was on this show. Well, he was a part of this series in New York at New York’s S.O.B. they ended up getting a television show. I think they, if I remember correctly, aired on HBO. But this has nothing to do with the show being on HBO. He was a part of a show called Lyricist Lounge, and story goes, that Q-Tip apparently was inviting everybody in the industry to see most Def, now known as Yasiin Bey, have. Forgive me for that. Forgive me. Forgive me for that. See? But, uh, Q-Tip was inviting everybody down the Lyricist Lounge to see most def to try to get him side. And one of those people he invited was Diddy, of course, at the time going by Puff Daddy. And so apparently MOS Def does his rendition of a children’s story that is featured on the debut album for Blackstar. And for those that are unaware, Yacine Bey’s version of a children’s story is about a producer who he feels like kind of doesn’t really produce and does this lazy production and has kind of cute hip hop and. That producer he is talking about is Dee Dee. So imagine Dee Dee sitting in the audience being invited by Q-Tip. Then this guy, he was guy he invited you to see perform, to think about signing is doing a song that basically is insulting you. So that’s what happened. And I heard Questlove talk about it, and he was like, yo, MOS Def killed it. And he did it acapella, by the way. He was like, after he he finished, you know, the crowd went crazy. Everybody was deafening each other up and laughing and, you know, cheering them on and giving them like a standing ovation. But meanwhile there was Diddy sitting there, not so happy about the things that were said about him. And Questlove says that afterwards, Yasiin, Bey, Q-Tip and Diddy all were at another location and they kind of hash it out and he did the whole, you don’t know, let me tell you about my life. Let me tell you about this. Waking up with the roaches on his faces and all of that, which I kind of don’t think that was did his life, but. It makes good for when you trying to. When you mad at somebody in a in a ridiculing you a feeling you that you kill hip hop and you talk about to struggle.

So, uh, we’re going to dive on into unpopular opinion with moi. I kind of want to start the year off with a bang. We like the salacious hot take of an unpopular opinion, but I’m not going to really do that. But I have a good one. I have a good one. So towards the end of the year, we talked about Spotify rap and how what aspect of Spotify rap is artists ridiculing other artists for sharing their Spotify numbers and claiming them. Some of these, these numbers are fake. These numbers not real. These numbers are accurate. And you know it is. It just got me thinking about, you know, Spotify and streaming services and I. Something else happened, uh, at the end of 2023. Oh, Snoop Dogg, Snoop Dogg came out and said that one of his, I think one of his royalty checks from Spotify was only like maybe $15,000 or something like, or five, $40,000 or something like that for the song. They had like billions of stream or millions of streams. And he was like something I write something that and and Snoop has been on this whole wave of like, we need to see the numbers. We need to like you, like y’all have to explain this to us, cause it’s not adding up that I have a million streams and I’m only getting, like, maybe $10,000 or $1500 off of this. This is not right. Which I do agree, I do agree, but I was having the same conversation when he did that. I was just like, well, you’re not giving the money back. Like, you feel this way, Snoop, but you’re not giving money back and you’re not denying a check from Spotify. You’re not saying this is not adding up. Y’all owe me some more money. Y’all keep that to y’all and figure out how much money y’all owe me. And other people will chime in in Will, I will also Snoop isn’t accounting for publishing on on his music like Snoop doesn’t own 100% of the publishing on those songs. You have to. The producer has publishing on those songs. Whoever wrote the hook on that has publishing like everybody else. Like, I guess like the $40,000 from, I guess, this one song, it has to be broken down to everybody that needs to be paid for their publishing on their song. So Snoop was kind of not being forthright with that is how people were framing it. And once again, like I say, it got me thinking about streaming service and how it’s funny that. Nobody ever complains about any other streaming services like you never hear people complain about their royalties and their payouts from a title, or an Apple Music, or an Amazon or YouTube music, or YouTube period. Like, you never hear that. They only complain about Spotify. But I just sat back and I thought, well, nobody is turning down money from a streaming service. Like when it’s time for you to get paid and it’s time for your royalty check to be cut and royalty checks will pay quarterly if I believe if I’m correct. That’s right. They’re paid quarterly. So unpopular opinion. Get straight to is streaming services are not evil. I know they are looked at as the big bad in the music industry. They are in bed with the labels or the labels are in bed with them and they don’t pay out the right amount. How can you have a million streams and then only make like $1,500? And I just say that’s the cost of doing business. Spotify has done a lot of money into their platform, one to push podcasts and to pay Joe Rogan because they have to pay him. I think like some $300 million is just as crazy. He’s the highest pay and most popular podcast, which, uh, whatever. Some people say numbers are being fudged over at on on streaming services.

But as I said, you never hear about this from any other streaming services. Only Spotify. People only complain about Spotify. I’ve never heard anybody complain about their Amazon Music payout. Never. Not one time. Maybe Amazon got it right or nobody cares about their payout from Amazon Music, which if I was an artist, I’d care about all my payouts from all the streaming platforms that I am on. It just never made sense to me. But like I said, the unpopular opinion is streaming services aren’t evil. I just think that’s just the cost of doing business. I think Spotify in particular looks at things like, well, this is how much money we’re putting in to this thing here on the platform. And then, yeah, your song has racked up all of these streams in a stream is worth however much it is over. Spotify. Nobody knows. I don’t even know. Like when a stream counts because each platform is different. I think YouTube counts it right. When you hit play like that’s the stream, it doesn’t. I think right when it hits one second, that’s the stream. But Apple Music I think say they like a minute in it or like 30s, and I think Spotify accounts to stream it like a minute and a half of the song being played. So if your song is only a minute and a half, then yeah, cool. But if you have like a three minute song, your song isn’t counted as a stream until halfway into the song. I could be wrong about the timing, but I believe every streaming platform counts. What a stream is. Definitely. Which I think is part of the issue. Nobody has like one metric of what a stream is, and none of the streaming services have one metric of how much a stream is cause each platform stream is worth, I think, a different amount from Spotify to Apple to YouTube to tidal. So yeah, you’re going to get a different payout. But in Spotify in particular, I think they look at it like, well, you only own 25% of the publishing on this song. So yeah, of these billion streams, a stream, you know, this is worth point, whatever, whatever whatever of this and this is how much you got because you own 25% of the publishing. If you own more of the publishing, your payout will be a little bit bigger. And also the producer and the other writers on this have to be paid out. And it was a sample. So you have to credit those artists who originally wrote the sample, and they have to be paid because they also have publishing.

So I don’t think artists are looking at it like that. Like with Snoop, the song that I can’t remember the song that he was talking about, but I believe it had a sample. So once again, that sample you have to credit the, uh, original writers of the song, and they have publishing and they need to be paid for the sample. So like, yeah, you are going to end up with less than what you have, unless you’re like sting, who clearly owns 100% of all his publishing, which is why he continues to take money from people who don’t clear samples. Go read about Diddy and Juice World. But like, yeah, I don’t think streaming services are inherently evil. I just think they are doing business as they see fit. And. If you’re somebody like Snoop or a veteran, somebody who’s been in the industry as long as Snoop, you should know at this point that the music industry is shady. Tribe Called Quest put in an entire rule. What is rule 4080? Record executives are shady. Like this is what it is. The labels are in bed with streaming services, so the label needs to be paid off of the music that you do. They are entitled to some payment from the music that is being put out on the air. And you got to have your cookie. And like I said, the other writers writers have to have. They cut the producer, have to have their cut. So no, you’re not going to have $1 million for a million streams, because that’s just not how the pie is sliced. And I think they all know that. I just think they all need to kind of need something to complain about. But but I will say streaming is a bit unfair because as I say it. Each platform counts a stream differently. Each platform. A stream is worth a different amount.

So a year that’s unfair should be one uniform metric on what is a stream, meaning where a stream starts. If it’s starting at one second, then starting at once again. If the entire song has to play through for it to be counted as a stream, then if you go like that across the board, if a stream is worth like what .0000001 of a cent, then it needs to be that across the board. And also when if a stream is worth that much or that less. Do you really think your million streams is going to rack up to $1 million? I mean, this is just kind of math. Like if your math add up to $1 million of 0.00000001 of a cent, then lie or a dollar or whatever it is, then no, that’s not going to equal $1 million. That’s just that’s not how math works. That’s not how numbers work. So yeah, streaming services aren’t evil. They just are a business. And a business is always a business is like a casino. The house always wins. Streaming services are going to always make sure they get the most bang for their buck that they have put into building this service. And yeah, the artists unfortunately ends up being a lot undercut. But that’s business. And I think everybody that’s running a business understands there’s artists who become record executives. You never hear them start complaining. You never hear them complain about you. Like other record executives actually becoming a record executive because they are more than likely carrying on the same practices that those other record executives were doing, i.e., Diddy makes got on stage and called out Diddy for Diddy, calling out white record executives and then makes got up and say, well, you do the same thing. You can’t really call somebody else out if you’re doing the same thing. So that’s kind of how I see streaming services and artists in relationships between the two, like an artist who signs another artist like you can’t complain about that artist who streams. If you own 75% at a publishing and a only 25%. So yeah, they pay me, I go, their pay out is going to be a little lesser than what the streaming service gives, or what the label gets or what you get, because you own most of the publishing. It’s all the cost of doing business and it’s all business. And I guess the moral of this story would be that the music industry just needs an overhaul. Uh, reform. Once again, streaming services are not evil. They just the business man. And businesses care about their bottom line more than they care about you. And I don’t think that’s ever going to change. I think I deserve a lot of money cut.

At the end of the day, cut is a business, and cut isn’t going to pay me more than what they are bringing in, because one that’s bad business. And yeah, like it’s a business. It’s the business, man. Like it’s a business. It’s just it’s the cost of doing business. If you want to be a musician, I think is always said in every movie and every TV show about every kid that is in high school, that wants to leave home and be a musician or be a writer, or do something that is artistic in appearance, it will sound like you’re going to be waiting tables for a while, like you won’t be broke for a while. I think that’s just the reality of being. A creative and a musician like, you’re probably going to get shortchanged and you probably aren’t going to make the money you think you should be making, which is why most artists do something else outside of music, like clothing or content creating now or, I don’t know, open a restaurant. Like, I think that’s just that’s just life. That’s just life.

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