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plenty of focus is on the potential

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impact to the state's cattle

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industry.

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vulnerable to the parasite.

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We're going to have some prevention

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tips.

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And Texas Republicans dominated the

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primaries by going all in on the

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MAGA movement.

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Now they have to sell that plan to

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Texans come November.

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We're gonna have more about these

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stories coming up on today's show.

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The Austin Signal is a production

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of KUT News, hosted by

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Jerry Quijano.

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Fallout Theater has segments that

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consistently go sideways,

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and that's just how they want it.

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This is Austin Signal.

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Thank you for tuning in to

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It is Thursday, June 11th.

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I'm your host, Jerry Quijanoa.

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Texans have made their picks for

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which Democrats and Republicans will

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be on the ballot for the general

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election come November, which

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will decide everything from railroad

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commissioner to U.S.

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Senator to governor.

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But what should we make of the

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results of the primary And

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what do they tell us moving into

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November?

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The Texas newsroom's Blaise Ganey

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has this story.

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The most conservative Republicans

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continue to win in Texas, from

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Senate nominee Ken Paxton to the

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Republican nominee for Railroad

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Commissioner Beau French to the

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GOP candidate for Attorney General

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Maga Mays Middleton, as he

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likes to be known.

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John Taylor, a political scientist

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at the University of Texas at San

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Antonio, describes it as The

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consolidation of MAGA power In

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other words, outmagging the

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Republican next to you on the

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ballot. That led to the end of

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political careers for longtime

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incumbents like Senator John Cornyn,

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who even claimed to vote with

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President Donald Trump 99%

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of the time.

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Being essentially the

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last of the old guard being swept

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away.

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Anybody who is not 100% MAGA,

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100% committed to

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Trump, is viewed as disloyal

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and therefore must.

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Michael Adams is a political

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scientist at Texas State University.

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He says voters in Texas officially

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moved into a new political era after

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the primary.

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I think, to the Republican Party

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that the Bush or the

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Perry wing of the

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Republican Party, what we know as

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the institutional Republican Party

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or the traditional wing, I think

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that has been put to rest.

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worked in the primary since those

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elections tend to draw out the most

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extreme voters in either party.

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scientist at the University of

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Houston, says Republicans might have

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to reconsider how they approach

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November.

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That's going to be their challenge.

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They moved so far to the right to

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win their nominations that

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they're going to have to live with

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the commercials they made side

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by side with Trump.

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And, and all the MAGA promises

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they made for the general cycle

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are not going to popular with

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independent voters in my opinion.

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Trump's approval rating is low, gas

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prices are soaring, and the country

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is at war.

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candidates in Texas have ignored

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those topics, instead focusing

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on hot-button social issues like

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gender identity and immigration

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enforcement.

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during the Republican primary where

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only 1.4 million voters

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participated, political scientist

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Geronimo Cortina with the University

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of Houston isn't sure it'll be

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so successful with the general

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electorate.

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I don't know,

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97% of

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folks that did not participate in

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the run of election,

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whether they are

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Democrats or Republicans,

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support that type of

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rhetoric or not.

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Making things even more interesting

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are polls showing the Democratic

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nominee for US Senate James

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Tallarico beating Paxton

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by a few percentage points.

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Here's Sims again.

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looks like Texas may

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be competitive for

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the first time in 30

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years, but that

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could shift if Trump's

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popularity begins to rise again.

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Democrats have their work cut out

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for them. They haven't won a

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statewide race in more than three

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decades.

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really a red state, it's a low

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turnout state, in which you've

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got Democrats who, if they would

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ever get off their butts and

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actually mobilize, could actually

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win elections.

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I'm Blaze Gainey in Austin!

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As the New World screwworm spreads

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into Texas, much of the focus has

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been on its potential impact on

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the cattle industry, but livestock

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aren't the only animals vulnerable

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to the parasitic fly.

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Last week, and a case was confirmed

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in a dog in Andrews County, that's

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in West Texas, though the dog was

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apparently from a household in a

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neighboring county in New Mexico.

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Here to tell us more about the risk

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to pets and how to protect them is

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Dr. Rachel Gordon, veterinarian

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with Austin Pets Alive.

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Dr. Gordon, welcome to the show.

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Hi, thanks for having me!

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So first, it's probably important

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to understand how the New World

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screwworm is spread.

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How do animals contract this

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parasite?

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through the flies itself.

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living outdoors or is outdoor at any

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time, the fly only has to

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find a little bit of either an

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open wound or any of

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our body's openings, whether that be

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through the nose, the mouth, the

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ears, it just needs to find some

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way to contact some tissue and

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have time to lay its eggs.

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more amongst livestock than

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household pets right now?

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because they do, you know,

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live outside and as

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farmers do their absolute best to be

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able to keep track of everything.

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unnoticed for a little while because

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there's very slight symptoms that

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they might go down on their feed,

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they might down on there produce,

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whether that being milk or gain

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weight. They might have sores

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that are popping up, they might show

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up lame. So there's a lot of little

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signs that they might see, but

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because flies are just part of

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the environment out there, they're

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definitely at a higher risk for

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should be on the lookout for that

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could indicate an infestation and

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what should they do if they suspect

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maybe their animal, their pet does

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have the new world screw arm?

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animal that has a recent injury or

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to make sure that you're monitoring

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that area for any signs of

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warmth or inflammation to

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the area. Mainly you're gonna see

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red skin, you might see swelling.

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see the wound forming because this

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is gonna be a very rapidly

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developing wound.

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at finding not just the dead tissue

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that normal flies would find.

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tissue. And so it's going to really

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affect the animal very quickly

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and can turn very dangerous, very

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everything so you can see from day

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to day and you're able to see that

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change immediately.

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up with your veterinarian as soon as

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possible because there's a lot of

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other things going on right now.

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allergies. You can have some

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hotspots showing up.

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vigilant looking out for those

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symptoms. You might also see some

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signs of pain.

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your vet as soon as possible so that

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they can get the help that they need

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and get treatment started as soon

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possible if it were to be the case.

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What are some things that pet owners

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can do right now to prevent possible

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infestation?

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to make sure that your pets are

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up-to-date on their flea and tick

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medications.

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The Isoxazoline class of

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medications, that's gonna be your

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NexGuard, Credelio,

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Brevecto.

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Those are actually used to

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treat, to kill the maggots, but it's

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also helpful to prevent them

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from happening in the first place.

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So making sure that they're up-

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to-date on that.

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And then just the close visual

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monitoring.

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If you are traveling to an area that

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the screwworm is endemic to, or

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they live in such as.

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Crossing the border into Mexico or

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going further down into Central

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America, then you

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might consider maybe not bringing

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your pet at this time, just to be

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extra safe, to make sure that

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they're at a lower likelihood of

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even coming into contact with this

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potential.

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Are have you heard any questions

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from pet owners here in Austin about

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the screw arm anything that we

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haven't asked you about yet?

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I know one thing that I have been

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asked is, so how

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quickly would I see the symptoms?

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And it is going to vary depending

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on each case, but typically,

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you know, it takes about, you now,

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15 minutes or so for the fly to lay

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its eggs, and then within a day,

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you'll have those eggs hatched, and

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over the next week, you'll start

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really seeing those symptoms.

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So ideally, you would see

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it within that first week, but it

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kind of depends on.

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Where the fly initially laid

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the eggs, what all tissue is being

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affected and such like that.

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Okay, and what is

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the prognosis for infestation,

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like what, have we seen many

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cases of infestations among pets?

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So thankfully, not for a very long

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time, this is something that,

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in vet school, we're learning this

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has already been eradicated, so it's

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very interesting to be seeing it

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coming about, but the

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main thing is going to be the

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treatment timeline.

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So the sooner you're able to get the

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treatment, the better the prognosis

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is going be, because these maggots

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will cause such severe trauma

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to the entire body.

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We're talking about the

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skin, muscle, even bone

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going into organs.

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So If it does get

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to that severity, it really depends

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on where that wound is.

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So a wound on the foot's gonna have

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a better prognosis than say a wound

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the head or the neck area.

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All right, we have been speaking

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with Dr. Rachel Gordon, a

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veterinarian with Austin Pets Alive.

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Dr. Gordon, thank you for your time.

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Thank you.

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And World Cup 2026

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kicks off this afternoon in Mexico

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City as the Mexican national team

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takes on South Africa.

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We had a local preview of the action

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yesterday with Juan Diego Garcia of

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the Vamos Verde podcast.

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You can listen to that at kut.org

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slash signal and Juan

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and his co-host Jimmy Moss will be

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updating the action throughout the

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day throughout the tournament right

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here on KUT

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News.

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This is listener-supported public

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radio.

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We'll be back after a break.

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You're listening to Austin Signal.

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I'm Nammy Sirur, creator of the

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live storytelling event Accent

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Unmuted.

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Storyteller Victoria Granduri prides

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herself on jumping head first into

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challenges, until one

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that nearly took the spirit out of

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her.

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What came to her rescue was one

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phrase she kept repeating.

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It's 2019, and

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I'm in the middle of my MBA.

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Summer break is just around the

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corner, and while everyone is

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scrambling to get an internship,

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I decide I wanna do something

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different, something

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more nourishing.

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One day, I'm on the phone

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with my little sister, Julia,

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and she asks me,

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do you wanna climb Kilimanjaro

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together this summer?

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I pause.

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You see, I hate hiking.

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I hate camping and

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I really hate not showering

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after exercising.

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Naturally, I answer, let's

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do this.

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A couple months later, we're on the

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plane to Tanzania.

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I bought my hiking boots a week

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before the trip, wore

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them probably two hours.

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I skimmed through the

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PDF with the detailed information

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about our route and remembered

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nothing.

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Thankfully, our

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guides, Oscar and Devoda,

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would brief us every morning.

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How high, how far,

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what to wear. The rest?

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Was simple.

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Walk slowly, breathe

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deeply, and enjoy the

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sights and the company.

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Every time Joy and I

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looked at this immense peak

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miles away that

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never seemed to get any closer,

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we'd point at it and say to

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each other, piece of cake.

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It became our thing when

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the trail got long,

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steep, windy, piece

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of cake.

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And it worked, honestly.

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Our mental state carried us further

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than any physical preparation

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could have.

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Summiting Mount Kilimanjaro happens

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in the middle of the night.

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You wake up at 12 and start walking

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at one in the morning.

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It's pitch dark.

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And the only thing you can

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see is a trail of

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light from headlamps, slowly

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zigzagging up the mountain.

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At that point, my head

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is pounding, my

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lungs feel compressed,

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and every decision feels

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extremely slow.

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Imagine going on a hike

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during your worst hangover or

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food poisoning.

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Halfway up, people start

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throwing up.

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Altitude sickness is hitting hard.

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And Julia, unfortunately,

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is a victim of the altitude mountain

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sickness.

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Her oxygen levels get so

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dangerously low, we need to

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make a call.

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She's gonna go back down and

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I'll keep climbing with Oscar and

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Devota.

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Watching her turn back broke

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my heart.

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We'd done everything up till now

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together, and I couldn't

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imagine finishing this without her.

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Now, alone,

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every step feels heavier.

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I'm cold, dehydrated,

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and exhausted.

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So, I develop a

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strategy to trick my mind to keep

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going.

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With every step that I take,

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I name someone I love.

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Mom, dad,

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Matias, Joya,

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friends, family.

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It goes on and on.

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On a loop.

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Three or four hours later, we

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finally reach a stopping point.

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Relief floods into my body, and

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I burst into tears,

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delirious with joy.

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Oscar looks at me,

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utterly confused.

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Why are you crying?

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Because we did it.

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We made it. We're at the top.

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He looks over at Devoda,

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back at me.

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Ah, no. This is tea break.

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40 minutes more!

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This is what I get for not

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memorizing the itinerary.

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So I drink my tea,

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eat my snack,

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and those last 40 minutes

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really were a piece of cake.

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When I finally reached the summit,

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it felt anti-climactic.

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I had already had my moment.

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Victory wasn't the photo at

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the top, it was

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every little step that got

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me there.

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It was learning to slow down,

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to be in the moment,

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to laugh at the struggle,

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and to choose to keep going,

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one piece of cake

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at a time.

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Thank you.

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That was Victoria Granduri telling

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her story to a live audience at

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a recent Accent Unmuted in Studio

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1A here at KUT.

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I'm Nami Sirur and this is Austin

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Signal.

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If you want to see some comedy

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here in Austin, you have

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two main options.

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Heading down to 6th Street, where

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you'll find a lot of stand-up shows

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set up punchline one performer

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at a time.

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Then there are improv theaters.

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Here comedy is more collaborative,

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more theatrical, more experimental.

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Texas Standard's Sean Saldana takes

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us to one show where the truth

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is stranger than fiction.

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Comedian Quaid Petchi is backstage

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at Fallout Theater, getting ready

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for a big show.

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00:17:45,770 --> 00:17:46,769
All right, so you're pointing a

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plastic gun at my face right now.

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It doesn't have an orange tip on it.

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That's the key right there.

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You gotta remove the plastic orange

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part that makes it think it might

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be.

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Fake.

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Outside of this show, Petri is a

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stand-up comic.

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Tonight, he's a police officer

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in the dimly lit theater.

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Paths for a cop.

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Right, I think I have the

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somewhat look that like maybe maybe

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it was like a rent-a-cop.

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Petchy is on the cast of Did I Win,

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a monthly show that creator and host

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Trenton Bradley describes as...

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A game show you would never want to

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get pulled on to.

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And did I win audience members get

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called on stage to play games that

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make no sense?

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The game can be anything from

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maybe a deal or no deal kind of

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parody spin-off or something

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as wacky as, you know, give somebody

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a haircut.

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When they arrive, people are told to

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put their names in a bucket.

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00:18:37,390 --> 00:18:39,049
This volunteers them to become

576
00:18:39,050 --> 00:18:40,029
contestants.

577
00:18:40,030 --> 00:18:41,529
Not all of our bits go well.

578
00:18:41,530 --> 00:18:42,549
Like, there was once where they had

579
00:18:42,550 --> 00:18:43,989
somebody come on stage and reach

580
00:18:43,990 --> 00:18:45,769
into a box and identify an item

581
00:18:45,770 --> 00:18:47,469
without looking at it.

582
00:18:47,470 --> 00:18:49,349
The first round, it was a wig.

583
00:18:49,350 --> 00:18:51,369
The second was a fake spider.

584
00:18:51,370 --> 00:18:52,549
Then finally,

585
00:18:52,550 --> 00:18:54,199
The third run was a mousetrap.

586
00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:55,559
And when it snapped shut on the

587
00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:57,059
person's hand, everybody was

588
00:18:57,060 --> 00:18:59,259
stunned, but it was totally fine

589
00:18:59,260 --> 00:19:01,379
because this contestant was not

590
00:19:01,380 --> 00:19:02,949
a paying audience member.

591
00:19:02,950 --> 00:19:04,449
He was a plant.

592
00:19:04,450 --> 00:19:05,789
He knew that a mousetrap was gonna

593
00:19:05,790 --> 00:19:07,649
close on his hand But he played it

594
00:19:07,650 --> 00:19:09,689
off so well that people

595
00:19:09,690 --> 00:19:11,829
came up to us and were like that

596
00:19:11,830 --> 00:19:12,979
is not funny

597
00:19:12,980 --> 00:19:14,119
Every month, Bradley and his

598
00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:15,659
co-hosts recruit local stand-up

599
00:19:15,660 --> 00:19:17,659
comics to be random people in

600
00:19:17,660 --> 00:19:18,799
the crowd.

601
00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,699
Their segments go sideways, and none

602
00:19:20,700 --> 00:19:22,639
of this is ever explained to the

603
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:23,279
audience.

604
00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,519
They know it's a game show, but they

605
00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,379
don't really know what

606
00:19:26,380 --> 00:19:27,849
that game show entails.

607
00:19:27,850 --> 00:19:29,709
Did I win Blur's reality?

608
00:19:29,710 --> 00:19:30,969
In a way that makes it hard for me

609
00:19:30,970 --> 00:19:32,729
to interview people in the lobby.

610
00:19:32,730 --> 00:19:35,889
We've got a character out here in

611
00:19:35,890 --> 00:19:37,789
the in the foyer that

612
00:19:37,790 --> 00:19:39,809
is claiming to be a journalist

613
00:19:39,810 --> 00:19:40,929
You're saying I look like a

614
00:19:40,930 --> 00:19:41,579
character.

615
00:19:41,580 --> 00:19:42,979
I think you're a character in the

616
00:19:42,980 --> 00:19:44,009
show, that's right.

617
00:19:44,010 --> 00:19:45,569
Bo Banaduchi is a first-time

618
00:19:45,570 --> 00:19:47,529
attendee, and before the show even

619
00:19:47,530 --> 00:19:48,989
starts, he's learned to stop

620
00:19:48,990 --> 00:19:50,679
trusting his own eyes.

621
00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:51,619
You don't know what's going to

622
00:19:51,620 --> 00:19:53,299
happen, you can't expect anything.

623
00:19:53,300 --> 00:19:54,979
I am unable to convince Banaduchi

624
00:19:54,980 --> 00:19:56,979
that I am a real journalist,

625
00:19:56,980 --> 00:19:58,179
so I start talking with comedian

626
00:19:58,180 --> 00:19:59,719
Austin Silver.

627
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:01,719
Tonight, he'll play a savant who can

628
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,029
identify celebrities by their feet.

629
00:20:04,030 --> 00:20:06,609
But I only know the women's feet.

630
00:20:06,610 --> 00:20:08,429
You don't look like, you look like a

631
00:20:08,430 --> 00:20:09,289
normal guy.

632
00:20:09,290 --> 00:20:11,009
I'm glad that you think that I don't

633
00:20:11,010 --> 00:20:11,849
look like a creep.

634
00:20:11,850 --> 00:20:12,799
I appreciate that.

635
00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,679
But real people might think that

636
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:15,979
of you as they're walking out of

637
00:20:15,980 --> 00:20:17,189
this building.

638
00:20:17,190 --> 00:20:19,469
You know, I've been humiliated

639
00:20:19,470 --> 00:20:21,749
so much just as a regular comic

640
00:20:21,750 --> 00:20:23,949
that it's

641
00:20:23,950 --> 00:20:25,479
very hard to insult me.

642
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,019
Moments later, the audience files

643
00:20:27,020 --> 00:20:28,239
into the theater and the show

644
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:29,519
starts.

645
00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:30,639
Bradley and his co-hosts start

646
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,259
tossing jello shots into the

647
00:20:32,260 --> 00:20:33,309
audience.

648
00:20:33,310 --> 00:20:34,329
All right, question for this

649
00:20:34,330 --> 00:20:35,609
audience.

650
00:20:35,610 --> 00:20:36,749
I've been sober for six years,

651
00:20:36,750 --> 00:20:37,870
should I relapse tonight?

652
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:40,779
The first game of the night is Guess

653
00:20:40,780 --> 00:20:41,779
Who?

654
00:20:41,780 --> 00:20:43,599
Epstein Files Edition,

655
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:44,639
and the name they pull out of the

656
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,049
bucket is Chris.

657
00:20:46,050 --> 00:20:47,129
Has that started?

658
00:20:47,130 --> 00:20:49,219
Oh sh**, is it the man?

659
00:20:49,220 --> 00:20:49,959
Yes!

660
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,289
Is it an actor?

661
00:20:52,290 --> 00:20:53,429
Oh

662
00:20:53,430 --> 00:20:53,979
Okay, thank you.

663
00:20:53,980 --> 00:20:55,359
Yes!

664
00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:56,039
Donald Trump.

665
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:57,040
Ciao!

666
00:20:57,610 --> 00:20:58,889
Couldn't go that easy right from the

667
00:20:58,890 --> 00:21:01,099
start. You gotta try, you gotta try.

668
00:21:01,100 --> 00:21:03,159
Chris is a real audience member,

669
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,619
and with the crowd's help, he gets

670
00:21:04,620 --> 00:21:06,539
all of the answers right, which

671
00:21:06,540 --> 00:21:08,399
means that he wins his very own set

672
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,289
of the real board game, Guess Who?

673
00:21:11,290 --> 00:21:12,209
All the way, guys.

674
00:21:12,210 --> 00:21:13,389
Give it up for Chris. I think he

675
00:21:13,390 --> 00:21:14,769
won. Did he win?

676
00:21:14,770 --> 00:21:16,489
For the next segment, Bradley calls

677
00:21:16,490 --> 00:21:18,779
up a woman named Demi Chang.

678
00:21:18,780 --> 00:21:20,979
You're going to fight the-

679
00:21:20,980 --> 00:21:22,580
Fresh can!

680
00:21:23,820 --> 00:21:25,379
Bradley pulls out a mid-sized

681
00:21:25,380 --> 00:21:27,139
plastic can and places it on the

682
00:21:27,140 --> 00:21:28,399
floor. Fight!

683
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:29,419
Fight!

684
00:21:29,420 --> 00:21:31,339
Without hesitating, Chang raises her

685
00:21:31,340 --> 00:21:33,469
leg and kicks it off stage.

686
00:21:33,470 --> 00:21:34,470
Oh

687
00:21:35,930 --> 00:21:37,829
Then comes round two.

688
00:21:38,949 --> 00:21:41,029
One, two, three,

689
00:21:41,030 --> 00:21:42,879
go! Oh, not this trash can.

690
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:44,699
A man wearing a trash can with arm

691
00:21:44,700 --> 00:21:46,459
and leg holes cut out storms into

692
00:21:46,460 --> 00:21:48,319
the theater and stomps onto stage.

693
00:21:50,500 --> 00:21:52,399
He corners Cheng, but

694
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,799
Trenton Bradley does not care.

695
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,119
He shoves her into the middle of the

696
00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:57,539
stage. Fight the trash, you're

697
00:21:57,540 --> 00:21:59,479
losing the game!

698
00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:00,939
You're losing game!

699
00:22:00,940 --> 00:22:02,519
Finally, Cheng forfeits and heads

700
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:03,959
back to her seat.

701
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,819
She is a plant, but the

702
00:22:05,820 --> 00:22:07,519
audience does not seem to notice.

703
00:22:09,270 --> 00:22:11,109
Boo Demi guys, boo Demi,

704
00:22:11,110 --> 00:22:13,069
the trash can wins, the Trash

705
00:22:13,070 --> 00:22:13,969
can wins!

706
00:22:13,970 --> 00:22:15,849
The next person called on stage is

707
00:22:15,850 --> 00:22:17,349
another real audience member named

708
00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:18,319
Alyssa.

709
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,339
So these are pictures of,

710
00:22:20,340 --> 00:22:21,379
we're gonna show you pictures of

711
00:22:21,380 --> 00:22:22,579
celebrity's feet.

712
00:22:22,580 --> 00:22:24,159
Okay. You gotta guess whose feet

713
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:24,699
they are.

714
00:22:24,700 --> 00:22:26,259
I don't know any celebrities so this

715
00:22:26,260 --> 00:22:27,789
is going to be really hard.

716
00:22:27,790 --> 00:22:29,729
Alyssa isn't lying.

717
00:22:29,730 --> 00:22:31,889
She cannot identify any celebrity

718
00:22:31,890 --> 00:22:33,589
feet and neither can anybody else in

719
00:22:33,590 --> 00:22:34,649
the crowd.

720
00:22:34,650 --> 00:22:36,849
They all fail the name LeBron James,

721
00:22:36,850 --> 00:22:39,349
Leonardo DiCaprio, and Yoda.

722
00:22:39,350 --> 00:22:40,869
Of course, the only exception is

723
00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:42,689
comedian Austin Silver, who

724
00:22:42,690 --> 00:22:44,569
can immediately identify the feet

725
00:22:44,570 --> 00:22:46,519
of every woman they show.

726
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:47,379
Margot Robbie.

727
00:22:47,380 --> 00:22:48,520
Margot Robby.

728
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:50,559
Margot.

729
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:51,439
Margot! Yes!

730
00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:52,459
Yes!

731
00:22:52,460 --> 00:22:53,999
Silver really leans into this

732
00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:55,079
character.

733
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,119
He celebrates and cheers, and people

734
00:22:57,120 --> 00:22:58,879
around him are equal parts impressed

735
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,899
and horrified.

736
00:23:00,900 --> 00:23:02,339
Eventually though, Silver rallies

737
00:23:02,340 --> 00:23:04,219
the crowd and gets them on his side.

738
00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:09,959
After the show, I check in with Bo

739
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,819
Baneducci, the guy who

740
00:23:11,820 --> 00:23:13,479
refused to believe that I was a

741
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,579
journalist.

742
00:23:14,580 --> 00:23:16,119
I asked him if any of the segments

743
00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:17,120
seemed planned.

744
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:19,519
No, I don't think there's anything

745
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:20,919
that totally stood out to me as

746
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:21,629
fake.

747
00:23:21,630 --> 00:23:23,369
I gave him an exact breakdown of

748
00:23:23,370 --> 00:23:25,349
what was real and what was staged.

749
00:23:25,350 --> 00:23:27,169
Oh my god,

750
00:23:27,170 --> 00:23:28,509
of course!

751
00:23:28,510 --> 00:23:30,699
I did not even suspect that!

752
00:23:30,700 --> 00:23:32,489
And then he turns to his friend.

753
00:23:32,490 --> 00:23:33,749
I know you're not an actor.

754
00:23:33,750 --> 00:23:34,609
I invited you to this.

755
00:23:34,610 --> 00:23:35,610
Yeah.

756
00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:38,379
Did I Win is part comedy, part

757
00:23:38,380 --> 00:23:39,739
immersive theater.

758
00:23:39,740 --> 00:23:41,839
The humor comes from confusion,

759
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,659
awkward moments, and segments that

760
00:23:43,660 --> 00:23:44,879
unravel.

761
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,319
It's also hosted by a maniac.

762
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:48,799
If you're in on the joke, it looks

763
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,119
like performance art.

764
00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:51,959
If you not, it's just

765
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,359
a train wreck.

766
00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:55,259
For KUT's Art Beat, I'm Sean

767
00:23:55,260 --> 00:23:56,319
Saldana in Austin.

768
00:23:57,510 --> 00:23:59,629
And that is it for today's

769
00:23:59,630 --> 00:24:00,849
show. Thank you for tuning in.

770
00:24:00,850 --> 00:24:02,549
There's more about today's stories

771
00:24:02,550 --> 00:24:04,709
in the podcast show notes and

772
00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:06,949
at kut.org

773
00:24:06,950 --> 00:24:08,809
slash signal.

774
00:24:08,810 --> 00:24:10,369
Rayna Sevilla is our technical

775
00:24:10,370 --> 00:24:11,329
director.

776
00:24:11,330 --> 00:24:13,269
Alexandra Hart is our producer.

777
00:24:13,270 --> 00:24:15,229
And Kristen Cabrera is our managing

778
00:24:15,230 --> 00:24:16,269
producer.

779
00:24:16,270 --> 00:24:17,729
I'm your host, Jerry Quijano.

780
00:24:17,730 --> 00:24:19,089
We will be back at the same time

781
00:24:19,090 --> 00:24:21,069
tomorrow. We will talk to you then.

