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A group of civil rights

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organizations filed a new lawsuit

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this week, seeking to stop parts of

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the law that would let state police

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arrest people suspected of illegally

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crossing the U.S.-Mexico border.

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More about the law and why it's been

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paused, and the Infowars platform,

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long home to Austin-based conspiracy

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theorist Alex Jones, shut down

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quietly over the weekend.

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It's been a years-long back and

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forth with the satirical publication

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The Onion Over the Property.

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We've got more about those stories

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coming up on today's show.

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Howdy out there, you are listening

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to Austin Signal.

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It is Tuesday, May 5th.

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Thank you for joining us.

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I'm your host, Jerry Quijano.

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Senate Bill 4 is set to take effect

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next week in Texas after being on

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It's a law that passed in 2023

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making illegal border crossing a

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state level crime.

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But a group of civil rights

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organizations filed a new lawsuit

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this week to stop parts of that law

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from going into effect.

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Joining us to explain is Alejandro

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Tribune covering politics and

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government with a focus on

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immigration policy.

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Alejandro, welcome to the Austin

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Thank you for having me.

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So this law was passed back in 2023.

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Can you remind us exactly what it

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existing federal law?

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a special legislative session and

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it also occurred as

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the number of border crossings were

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hitting record highs.

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state's Republican officials were

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arguing then and still argue that

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that amounted to an invasion and

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they wanted to do something about

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it, as they used to say.

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tried to mirror federal law.

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Of illegal entry into the country

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for crossing the border or re-entry,

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which, you know, trying to cross the

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state lawyers have argued that it

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mirrors federal law, doesn't really

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conflict with it.

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Department of Justice disagreed with

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participation ended under the Trump

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administration and that lawsuit,

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the initial lawsuit challenging the

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an end a couple of weeks ago, about

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initial plaintiffs did not have

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that this law has been on hold for

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lower court, a district judge,

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federal district judge who granted

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did not. Ultimately address the

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overall question from plaintiffs

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that say that the state's law

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law. Courts have long held that

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constitutional question still

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Okay, so back to the lawsuit.

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Who is involved and what are they

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lawsuit on behalf of two plaintiffs.

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lawful permanent resident,

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they're seeking to represent people

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provisions that are part of this

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law, in particular the re-entry.

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a person reenters the country

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illegally, you know, they could be

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prosecuted by the state and

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they want to stop this because

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they're arguing that, you know,

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a person could since get lawful

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status such as a U visa or a green

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card but the state law may not

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recognize that.

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they will continue to pause the law.

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law enforcement across the state

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respond to it going into effect.

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Tribune. We're gonna have a link to

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his reporting in today's show notes.

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Alejandro, thank you for your time.

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Thank you for having me.

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New developments this week in the

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battle over Infowars.com.

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That's the website once run by

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Austin-based conspiracy theorist

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Alex Jones.

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Over the weekend, the website went

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dark, now displaying a blank page

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with just two words — off

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air.

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It comes as the satirical website

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The Onion has been attempting,

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unsuccessfully so far, to take

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over the domain name.

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KUT's government accountability

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reporter Andrew Weber has been

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following this story, and he is back

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on the show to talk about it.

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Hi, Andrew. Hello, Jerry.

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So, what do we know so far about

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the apparent shutdown of

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InfoWars.com?

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You know, I figured we should just

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let Alex Jones tell

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us for himself.

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So the onion failed to

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get Infowars for the second time

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in a year and a half.

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us to get out of the building by

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midnight.

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that makes the money.

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that he posted on x.com,

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formerly Twitter.

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South Austin off Stasney basically

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explaining what the

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situation is.

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the receiver, which is basically the

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middleman between the parties,

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has said, we're not gonna pay your

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rent anymore.

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unable to control

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the info wars.com domain.

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story, we've been hearing a lot

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about Infowars and a lot about the

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Onion as well, but this story

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involves a lawsuit from the victims

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of the Sandy Hook school shooting as

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well. Can you tell us a little bit

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of backstory on that?

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of the Sandy Hook shooting,

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he called them crisis actors,

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and said that this was a sort of

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false flag operation to take

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everybody's guns away, and

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it galvanized a lot of people

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to harass these families.

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Children's graves were,

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a lot terrible stuff happened to

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these folks, so they sued him for

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defamation.

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basically said,

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okay, you're right, this is

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defamation. And he was ordered to

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pay almost $1.5 billion in

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bankruptcy. That's why we are where

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just sort of kept doing what he's

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all plays out in court.

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and I spoke with Mark Bankston,

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who's an attorney for the Sandy Hook

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family. He said it's really

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frustrating that this has gone on

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for so long, that 1.5

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billion ruling was

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from 2022.

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time, Alex Jones has been able to do

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what he has been doing for 25 years

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and hasn't paid families anything.

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As far as the world is concerned,

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Infowars is dead.

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I think everybody knows that.

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He's trying to keep a bloated corpse

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of a media organization alive in

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these last little bits, but it's all

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a joke. Everybody knows where we're

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going. And I'm sure he's going to

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try to start something new.

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I'm I'm he's gonna try to use every

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trick he can to try dissipate the

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assets of the estate.

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That's what we're doing up here is

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trying to stop all that.

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So can you explain a little bit more

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about how the onion plays into all

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of this saga and is there a chance

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that they're still going to take

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over the side eventually?

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started as a bit, like they wanted

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to, they thought, okay,

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what would be the funniest thing

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that we could possibly do?

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And that was Takeover Infowars.

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So they tried to do that in late

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2023 and they've

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been consistently trying to take

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it over with the help of the,

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well, with the cooperation, I should

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say, of the Sandy Hook families.

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They want to take over the site,

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basically skewer Jones for,

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you know, what he's been doing for

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25 years.

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And share

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at least a little bit of the profit

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that they can make with families.

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And that is now sort of up in

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the air. There's gonna be a hearing

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later this month on whether they can

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officially do that.

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But over the weekend, they sort of

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teased what they would do if they

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were to take it over.

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And they got Tim Heidecker, who's a

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comedian, who does just a really

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shockingly good impression of Alex

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Jones.

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He was sort of doing bits.

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He had one bit where he said he was,

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I hope it was fake blood.

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He said he drinking blood in a

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satanic ritual.

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And he also said that he could

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turn listeners' urine

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into gold, which is

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a thing that I didn't think I would

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ever say in the

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course of my duties.

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This is exactly what we created the

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Austin signal for, Andrew.

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Yes, sir. Okay.

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Well, I noticed that even in your

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headline at kut.org it says Alex

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Jones Infowars site has finally shut

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down for now.

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The saga seems to go back and forth

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and back and fourth.

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You think we're coming to a close or

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could we see even more legal

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challenges coming?

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Mark Bankston, the attorney we heard

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just a bit ago, he said,

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I'm really bad at predicting when

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this stuff's gonna end.

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He thought it would be wrapped up by

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now. He did say by the end of

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the year, he hopes that this can

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finally be put to bed.

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There's gonna be a hearing on the

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28th about all of this, whether The

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Onion can officially take over.

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And Bankston said, you know,

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just, he wanted this to

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all end just for the family's sake,

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just because they've already been

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through so much.

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And then this all happened to

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them, and he just, you now, wanted

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to sort of put it to bed

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That is KUT's Government

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Accountability Reporter, Andrew

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Weber. Andrew, thank you.

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Thank you, Jerry. We're gonna have a

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link to his reporting in today's

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show notes, and we're gonna be back

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after this break.

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This is Austin Signal.

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Thank you for tuning in.

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This is Austin Signal, welcome

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back to the show.

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The Austin Shakespeare troupe, The

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Barron's Men, are performing this

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season in a venue that is not

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their long-time home on Lake Austin.

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The Curtain Theater, a replica of

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Shakespeare's Globe Theater, was

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torn down after the property it

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sits on was sold.

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For KUT's Art Beat, Ella Kopeikin

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reports on the group's second

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act.

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The actors commanding the stage at

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the Scottish Rite Theater last

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Thursday looked less like

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the average community theater troupe

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and more like time travelers.

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Pray you, like hand in hand,

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yourselves an orta set, and

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twenty glowworms shall our lanterns

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be, to guy our measures

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round about the tree.

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But stay, I smell

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a man of Middle-earth.

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The play is Shakespeare's Mary

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Wives of Windsor and the players

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are the Baronsmen, Austin's

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only Elizabethan Shakespeare

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company.

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That means that the troupe performs

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Shakespeare according to the

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standards of the late 16th century.

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There are handmade costumes and

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props and simple sets that fit right

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into the style of the time.

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They do however make a couple

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exceptions.

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Women and electricity are allowed.

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Jackie O'Keefe has been a supporter

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of the troupe for three years.

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They are very refreshingly

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open and they feel

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original. They feel like they are

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always inventing it as they go

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along.

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This run at the Scottish Rite marks

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27 years for the Barron's

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Men. It's also the group's first

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time performing in a venue that

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isn't their long-time home, the

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Curtain Theater.

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Last fall, the theater was closed

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and dismantled after a real estate

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developer bought the property it

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sits on.

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Here's Michael Osborne, the director

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of Merry Wives of Windsor.

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He joined the troupe in 2011 and

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currently serves as president of its

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board of directors.

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The Barrensmen have become

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synonymous with the curtain theater,

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so it's kind of an unknown for

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everybody.

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Executive Artistic Director Lindsay

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Polinsky has been with the Baronsmen

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since 2010.

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The Curtain Theater was one

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of North America's only

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wooden-o Elizabethan replica

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outdoor theaters.

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It was purpose-built for the Barons

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Men 20 years ago.

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The original Wood& O was the Globe

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Theater, a rounded amphitheater

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in London where Shakespeare staged

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his plays.

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Over time, the Baronsmen evolved

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from a few friends performing for

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each other into a full-fledged

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theater company.

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They put on two shows a year and

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became a certified 501c3

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non-profit in 2015.

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Here's Michael Osborne again.

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Every bit of money that comes in

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goes right back into the

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organization, into development.

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We do actor workshops and

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we do also a lot of educational

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outreach.

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So we will go out to schools and

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we'll run some scenes.

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We'll do like a little history

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lesson.

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The theater itself grew, too.

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Other organizations began using the

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stage, but the Barron's men remained

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the main residents.

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Then, last year, the troupe

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got news that the land the theater

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was built on would be sold.

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They're like, you can do one more

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show there and then you got to get

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up.

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And that was much to do.

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And it was like one of our biggest

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shows was a wonderful sendoff.

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Lindsay Polinsky directed the final

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show staged at the theater.

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The will-they-won't-they couple

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comedy much ado about nothing.

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The board and artistic directors

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began planning for the next chapter

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of The Barrensmen.

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The goal became building their dream

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theater.

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Our big, you know,

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mood board of grand ideas.

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We want an outdoor theater and we

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want an indoor theater and a

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rehearsal space and locker rooms and

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real bathrooms for the audience.

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You know, after hearing those

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slamming port-a-potty doors for 20

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years.

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In the meantime, the team's main

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focus is keeping their annual

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two-show schedule going.

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You know, at the end of much ado, we

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sort of launched a relocation fund.

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That's a easy peasy donate button

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on our website and we'll

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be putting more concerted efforts

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towards community partnerships

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and we need to

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really look at sustainable

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fundraising for figuring

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out how we can ramp up

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into our growth.

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One of their biggest discoveries has

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been realizing how much fans of the

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troop wanna help.

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Hudson Perma is 15.

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He started coming to the curtain

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three years ago with his family.

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I had been aware of Shakespeare,

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but I never experienced it

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in a proper setting and in a proper

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way. I think that's why I enjoyed

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it so much.

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It just felt very real.

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Hudson and his dad run a local film

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club, the Austin Flick Click.

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It's dedicated to exposing younger

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audiences to classic films.

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After hearing about the curtain's

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closure, he reached out to see if

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there might be a way to use the club

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to raise money and awareness for the

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troupe.

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If they can't have a new theater and

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they can keep doing what they do,

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it's not just a loss of

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art, it is a loss for the community

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and we were like, well we can help

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them.

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The Baronsmen decided to collaborate

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with Hudson for a three-film series

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called To Screen or Not to Screen.

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All proceeds go to the players.

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There's so many good Shakespeare

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film adaptations, so it kind of just

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all fit and locked into place.

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With Mary Wives, another play coming

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up this fall, and the Flick Click

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series, the troupe has officially

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entered its second act.

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We're a 100% volunteer

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run organization.

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We're committed and invested

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in the next 25

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years of The Barrensmen and beyond.

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We hope to build an

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organization that outlives us.

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While the curtain may be gone, the

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Barron's men are here to stay.

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For KUT's Art Beat, I'm Ella

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Copaican in Austin.

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This year's ACL lineup has

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finally dropped, and we're gonna

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tell you who's coming to town in

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just a bit, but the iconic

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Austin TV show turned global

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festival underscores an important

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question that was asked during a

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panel at last weekend's KUT

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00:16:41,210 --> 00:16:42,389
Festival.

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The question, why does Austin's

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music scene matter globally?

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Program director for KUTX, Matt

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Riley, posed the question to a panel

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of Austin's music leaders,

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musician Alejandro Rose Garcia.

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Better known as Shaky Graves,

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shared this answer.

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Why?

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I'm not totally sure,

570
00:17:05,310 --> 00:17:07,169
I have seen the effect of it

571
00:17:07,170 --> 00:17:09,269
directly being

572
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born and raised here and

573
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literally kind of being immersed in

574
00:17:14,569 --> 00:17:16,789
art in general my entire life

575
00:17:16,790 --> 00:17:18,608
and it took me

576
00:17:18,609 --> 00:17:20,509
leaving Austin to kind of realize

577
00:17:20,510 --> 00:17:22,449
how specific

578
00:17:22,450 --> 00:17:25,289
and kind of ubiquitous

579
00:17:25,290 --> 00:17:27,029
music and art and all this culture

580
00:17:27,030 --> 00:17:28,489
that I kind of take for granted from

581
00:17:28,490 --> 00:17:30,170
time to time really is.

582
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And it's always blown my

583
00:17:33,690 --> 00:17:35,209
mind that kind of no matter where I

584
00:17:35,210 --> 00:17:37,129
travel, I don't have

585
00:17:37,130 --> 00:17:39,649
to enunciate

586
00:17:39,650 --> 00:17:41,989
where I'm from or explain

587
00:17:41,990 --> 00:17:42,849
anything.

588
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It's like I'm Austin, Texas, and

589
00:17:44,190 --> 00:17:46,269
people are like, ah, that's great.

590
00:17:46,270 --> 00:17:47,270
That's amazing.

591
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And that's always

592
00:17:50,670 --> 00:17:52,729
blow me away, and I've realized

593
00:17:52,730 --> 00:17:54,769
that I've really...

594
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You know, I've benefited from it in

595
00:17:56,390 --> 00:17:58,609
ways that I can't even probably

596
00:17:58,610 --> 00:18:01,829
acknowledge or understand.

597
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But why is it like that?

598
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I think it just, I think has to do

599
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with the kind of

600
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couple days a year we get like this

601
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where somebody visits and is like,

602
00:18:10,690 --> 00:18:11,669
ah, this is wonderful.

603
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And then they get trapped here

604
00:18:12,850 --> 00:18:13,850
during the summer.

605
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And I mean, there's a deep, deep

606
00:18:17,330 --> 00:18:19,029
community of people that is very

607
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reflective of this.

608
00:18:19,850 --> 00:18:21,989
When I walk around and there's

609
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you know, a band and assless chaps

610
00:18:24,050 --> 00:18:25,229
playing while there's a little kid

611
00:18:25,230 --> 00:18:25,510
throwing up.

612
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We had this discussion.

613
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I know.

614
00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:28,779
This is redundant.

615
00:18:28,780 --> 00:18:29,919
It's redundant.

616
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They're just chaps chaps are

617
00:18:31,340 --> 00:18:32,639
assless. It says otherwise their

618
00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,459
pants It's just a good excuse to

619
00:18:34,460 --> 00:18:36,339
say the word assless, so we'll

620
00:18:36,340 --> 00:18:37,939
try and work that into other phrases

621
00:18:37,940 --> 00:18:40,739
just in case this evening

622
00:18:40,740 --> 00:18:42,779
But yeah, there's like kids throwing

623
00:18:42,780 --> 00:18:44,859
footballs around there's noise

624
00:18:44,860 --> 00:18:46,799
rock. There's a

625
00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:48,199
Republican congressman in there

626
00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,119
trying to have a speech.

627
00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:51,319
It like It's

628
00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,039
that's pretty that's a pretty damn

629
00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,499
Austin. So I think that all of that

630
00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:57,220
permeates the

631
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The vibes here, man,

632
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and I think that that is

633
00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,819
why the music scene matters,

634
00:19:06,220 --> 00:19:07,419
because that is an important...

635
00:19:07,420 --> 00:19:09,179
I think our little corner of the rug

636
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is important and

637
00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:12,279
significant. So the underlying

638
00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,279
conditions.

639
00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,119
I think we have a nice assless city

640
00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:16,980
here in the middle of Texas.

641
00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:19,699
I don't know if that's the right way

642
00:19:19,700 --> 00:19:20,759
to put that.

643
00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:21,699
We'll work on it.

644
00:19:21,700 --> 00:19:22,779
We've got some time. We're

645
00:19:22,780 --> 00:19:23,780
spitballing here.

646
00:19:25,550 --> 00:19:27,369
That was musician Alejandro Rose

647
00:19:27,370 --> 00:19:29,229
Garcia, better known as

648
00:19:29,230 --> 00:19:30,089
Shakey Graves.

649
00:19:30,090 --> 00:19:31,909
He was part of the Why

650
00:19:31,910 --> 00:19:33,709
Does Austin's Music Scene Matter

651
00:19:33,710 --> 00:19:35,769
Globally panel that was happening

652
00:19:35,770 --> 00:19:37,769
during the inaugural KUT

653
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festival over the weekend.

654
00:19:39,310 --> 00:19:40,929
The conversation continued on with

655
00:19:40,930 --> 00:19:42,429
the music leaders talking about

656
00:19:42,430 --> 00:19:44,269
rethinking the idea of

657
00:19:44,270 --> 00:19:46,089
selling out as more

658
00:19:46,090 --> 00:19:48,049
of a necessity, as more support

659
00:19:48,050 --> 00:19:50,059
from businesses becomes available.

660
00:19:50,060 --> 00:19:51,339
We're gonna have a link to that

661
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story in today's show notes

662
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and you can find more at kut.org

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slash signal.

664
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And I mentioned the lineup has

665
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dropped for this year's Austin City

666
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Limits Music Festival.

667
00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:03,979
Among the headliners are Charlie

668
00:20:03,980 --> 00:20:06,039
XCX, Lorde and

669
00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:08,039
21 Pilots, dozens and dozens

670
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:10,279
of others, including Turnstile,

671
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,339
The Chainsmokers and Geese,

672
00:20:12,340 --> 00:20:14,279
and lots of local acts as well,

673
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:15,639
including the excellent Houston

674
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,279
Tillotson University Jazz

675
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Collective.

676
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Tickets went on sale today.

677
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Three day passes for each of the

678
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two weekends start at $365.

679
00:20:26,420 --> 00:20:28,299
$750 for general admission

680
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plus a whole lot more.

681
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Fortunately for you and for me out

682
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there.

683
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Future for our future credit

684
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card bills that is the five figure

685
00:20:36,930 --> 00:20:38,829
y'all access passes are

686
00:20:38,830 --> 00:20:40,129
already sold out.

687
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I was just about to get mine then

688
00:20:41,350 --> 00:20:43,249
they sold out so maybe

689
00:20:43,250 --> 00:20:45,269
next year I'll have better luck.

690
00:20:45,270 --> 00:20:47,109
ACL Fest is coming up October

691
00:20:47,110 --> 00:20:49,449
2nd to the 4th and 9th to the 10th

692
00:20:49,450 --> 00:20:51,169
in Silker Park and you can bet your

693
00:20:51,170 --> 00:20:52,649
bottom dollar we're gonna have lots

694
00:20:52,650 --> 00:20:54,629
more to share about ACL

695
00:20:54,630 --> 00:20:56,649
in the months ahead and

696
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you You can always find more from us

697
00:20:58,270 --> 00:21:00,529
at KUT.org slash

698
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signal.

699
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We are here every weekday afternoon

700
00:21:03,870 --> 00:21:05,989
at one o'clock on community powered

701
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public radio.

702
00:21:06,890 --> 00:21:08,679
This is KUT News.

703
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,559
I'm your host Jerry Quijano,

704
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we'll talk to you tomorrow.