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in far, far east Austin jumped more

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That's raising concerns about

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whether Austin can fulfill its

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long-term water conservation goals

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as plans for a new semiconductor

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plant could push demand even higher.

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And a state district judge has

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ordered Camp Mystic not to alter,

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demolish, repair or remove

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structures affected by floodwaters.

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27 people died at the girls' camp

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during last summer's deadly flood in

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the Texas Hill Country.

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The latest updates coming up

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on today's show.

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The Austin Signal is a production

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of KUT News, hosted by

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Jerry Quijano.

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Plus, Fusebox Festival continues

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through the weekend, and the Austin

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Symphony is doing something new,

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teaming up with an indie rock

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band. We're gonna hear a little

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preview of that performance.

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Those stories coming up next,

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right here on Austin Signal.

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Howdy out there, this is Austin

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Signal. It is Thursday, April

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I'm your host, Jerry Keconnell.

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Thank you for making us part of

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your afternoon.

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We hope you're having a nice one out

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there. Glad you're here.

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With community powered public radio,

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this KUT News.

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A Travis County judge ruled Thursday

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that Camp Mystic cannot use the

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cabins or structures damaged by the

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2025 floods in order

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to preserve evidence in the ongoing

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civil suits for the parents of

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victims.

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For more about that, we are speaking

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with KUT's Kaylee Hunt,

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who has been at the courthouse all

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week long, watching this hearing

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unfold.

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Kaylee, thanks for joining us here

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on the show.

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Hey Jerry, thanks for having me.

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So the hearing started Monday.

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What was the atmosphere like in the

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courtroom? Can you describe it for

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us a little bit because there wasn't

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much recording allowed, right?

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Yeah, that's right.

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So this actually, there were so many

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people that wanted to attend this

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hearing and all the testimony that

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happened that they had to move it

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to a larger courtroom.

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So we were in the ceremonial Travis

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very crowded.

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of supporters and members of

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the Eastland family, the owners of

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Camp Mystic.

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the parents,

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family members of...

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Seal Stewart, the eight-year-old

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girl at the center of this hearing

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and case that was one of the victims

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of the flooding last summer.

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of other families as well whose

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daughters were victims of the flood.

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this hearing was the amount of

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details that a lot of people got to

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hear for the first time about that

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night from folks who were actually

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What were some of the details that

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stood out to you?

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of testimony from the camp's

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directors, as well as a

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night watchman who was

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awake and, you know, on

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the grounds at the time of

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the flooding.

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one piece of

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testimony that occurred.

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very emotional when it happened.

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the Howard's attorney,

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Christina Yarnell.

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who was the camp's chief health

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officer.

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You knew the property, you knew the

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flood lines, you know, you knew

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access points, your children

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knew them.

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campers.

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years of experience been sealed.

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She needed your help and

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you abandoned her didn't you?

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was asking to preserve the evidence

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of these structures that were

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damaged by the floods.

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against that?

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evidence as they move forward with

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this civil case accusing

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negligence.

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it was essentially that

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the stewards and their attorneys as

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well as other families have had

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ample time at this point to

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go ahead and go out to the property

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and collect that evidence.

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but cooperative with law enforcement

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and with attorneys from

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these girls and their families

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who are suing.

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were some folks that were displaced

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ultimately by this order and

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that they want to renovate and get

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ready for camp in

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district judge here in Austin,

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she ultimately cited

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with the Stewart's family and

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their attorneys. She chose to

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uphold an order

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that essentially does

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not allow Camp Mystic

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to use those structures

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and cabins and grounds that were

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affected by the floods.

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If they were to reopen it this

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summer, they cannot be altered.

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Damaged, remodeled, removed in any

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way, those need to be preserved as

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of right now for evidence.

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this story, as you mentioned,

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at this courthouse hearing in

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What happens moving forward from

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Can Camp Mystic still appeal this

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most recent ruling?

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have a pending appeal

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in the Third Court of Appeals

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that initial order that came from

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the state district judge telling

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them to preserve those cabins as

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evidence.

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process and there are some

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deadlines that are coming up next

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week. So we should expect

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Alrighty, well that is KUT's

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Kaylee Hunt. She has been covering

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that Camp Mystic hearing happening

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this week in Austin.

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Kaylee, thanks for coming on the

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Thanks, Jerry.

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The City of Austin's long-term water

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conservation goals are in question

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as water usage at Tesla's Giga

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Texas increased more than 60%

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in the past two years.

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The plant's treated water usage came

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in at more than 200 million gallons.

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That's from 2023 to 2025.

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And with plans advancing on a new

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semiconductor factory in Eastern

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Travis County, that number is

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expected to increase.

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That reporting comes from Sam Stark,

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Austin Current's government

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reporter. He is joining us now on

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the show. Hi Sam, thanks for coming

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back. Thanks for having me.

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So can you tell us about Austin's

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initial water conservation goals?

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These were voted on by the city a

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couple years ago, I suppose.

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pushed forward with its Water

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essentially this working group that

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works to look at

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Austin's water supply for the next

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And they actually update the water

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plan every five years, taking into

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account larger consumers

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of water as more technology

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and companies move into Austin.

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plans look like now that they

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could possibly be upended by

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two separate Elon Musk facilities

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here in Travis County.

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facilities?

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wasn't that big of an issue.

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2020, later opening in 2022,

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they applied for a service extension

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request with Austin Water, which

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ultimately was granted.

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or a couple of the environmentalists

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on the board who I spoke to

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concerned is just how much

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the water use has increased in

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was number five.

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third highest user

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of treated water

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just like, we can't really

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take someone who's rapidly

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growing this much.

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with what might come in the future.

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So in March, Elon Musk

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announced this new semiconductor

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factory called Terafab.

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for all of his expanding,

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you know, technology portfolio.

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great deal of water.

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I talked to one professor who said,

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a typical North American one

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requires 1 million to 2 million

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gallons of water a day.

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epic chip factory in

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to was worried that that might

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require 10 to 15 million

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gallons water idea.

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project. That's right.

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That's right. What have you heard

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from the city about this?

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member, council member Ryan Alter,

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and you know, they talked about this

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tension that exists in central

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Texas of wanting, you

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know economic growth, wanting these

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big opportunities to further

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solidify Austin's reputation as a

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technology hub.

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But they also acknowledge the

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fact that water is a top concern

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in our city.

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So I think that they

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are you know, not ruling

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this out. I think that they might be

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a little bit excited about it, but

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they want to work with this

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company to see, you know how

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they can conserve water, how maybe

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they could offer some incentives

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like improving water

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infrastructure, things like that.

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Yeah, water is always a big concern

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here in Travis County, really for

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all our counties in central Texas.

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With that in mind, has Tesla had

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anything to say about their water

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usage, their increasing?

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Water usage?

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No, I mean, Tesla is has a

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reputation of not, you know, always

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responding to the media.

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I did reach out asking about their

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conservation practices,

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why they think that this increase

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happened.

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I did not get a response back.

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But I do know that, you know,

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these companies, they they require a

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lot of water, there's a lot of

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washing, they have to ensure all

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these parts are clean, because any

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sort of impurity can cause a defect

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in the technology.

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What are you watching for next in

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this story? What are continuing to

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report on?

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You know, just the plans for

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this semiconductor factory have

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not been finalized yet.

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I think we should see some documents

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going through either

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the Travis County Commissioner's

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Court or the Austin City Council

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pretty soon here.

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And so once those are filed,

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we'll have a better sense of how

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much water this factory will

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need and how big it might be.

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All right, we have been speaking

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with Sam Stark.

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He's the government reporter at

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Austin Current.

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They are KUT and Austin Signal's

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partner in covering the city of

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Austin. Sam, always great to talk

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with you. Yeah, thanks so much.

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And we have done a little bit of

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reporting here on Austin Signal

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about that terafab factory.

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We spoke with Shelly Brisman of the

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Texas Standard. You can find that

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episode at kut.org

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slash signal.

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And as always, you can find more

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from the reporting that we share

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with you in the episodes.

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In the podcast show

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notes.

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Coming up after the break, we got

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a lot of arts to share with you, a

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little bit of Texas music history,

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but we let you know earlier in the

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week about Fusebox Festival.

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We had a conversation with the

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co-director of the festival.

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Coming up, we're going to share an

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audio preview of one of

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the performances happening with

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Dirty Projectors and the Austin

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Symphony.

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That is coming up right

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after this break.

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It's right here on community-powered

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public radio KUT News.

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You're listening to Austin

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Signal.

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This is Austin Signal, welcome back,

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thank you for making us part of your

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day. Now we've got some Texas

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music history to listen back on

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this week, and as always we're led

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by Jason Mellard from the Center for

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Texas Music History at Texas State

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University.

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Today we have got the story of

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a music venue that boomed

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with the region and the Texans

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around it.

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This week in Texas music history,

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Maddie Castleberry opens a thriving

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dance hall drilling into the East

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Texas oil boom.

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With the discovery of the East Texas

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Oil Field in 1930, the region

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saw a population surge almost

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overnight.

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Local Maddie Castelberry recognized

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a business opportunity and opened

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Maddie's Ballroom on April 19th,

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1931, strategically positioned

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on a highway between Longview and

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Kilgore.

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The original building was a modest

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wood structure among pine trees,

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offering entertainment to oil

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barons, derrick hands, and local

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youth. On a typical night, one might

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see anything from German polka to

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big band swing to square dancing at

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Maddie's.

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Simultaneously, Maddie found herself

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involved in another legendary Texas

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dance hall, the Paul Mile, which

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opened its doors outside Longview in

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1935.

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Initially a business venture for

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three entrepreneurs hoping to

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capitalize on the region's recent

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population spike, the club boasted a

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1,600 square foot hardwood floor,

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one of the state's biggest.

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The Paul Mile's owner leased the

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club to Maddie in 1942 after he

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was drafted in World War II.

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She briefly operated both venues but

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made the difficult decision to close

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Maddie's Ballroom in 1943 and

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focus on the bustling Palm Isle.

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Bands that frequented the Palm Isles

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in that period included Glenn

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Miller, Tommy Dorsey, Ella

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Fitzgerald, Louis Armstrong, and Bob

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Wills.

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Maddie sold the Palm Isle in 1948.

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In 1951, new owners rechristened

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the venue as the Rio Palm Isles,

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still there, and turned to country

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acts like Ray Price, Jim Reeves,

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Waylon Jennings, Johnny Cash, and

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even Elvis Presley.

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Maddie Castleberry's chapter in the

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venue may have closed, but her

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example of women's The newer ship in

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East Texas remains a source of local

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legend.

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You can hear music from the Lone

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Star State 24-7 on the

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Texas Music Experience at TMX.fm.

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The Austin Symphony Orchestra

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will perform tonight with the indie

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rock band Dirty Projectors out

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at the Long Center.

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It's just one of many performances

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featured as part of this weekend's

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Fusebox Festival.

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As Maya Fawaz reports for KUT's

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Artbeat, the performance helps show

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how classical music can

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adapt.

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It's been 54 days

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since these words were spoken

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here in Austin.

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And I don't wanna be working in

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ballet or opera or

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things where it's like, hey, keep

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this thing alive even though no

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one cares about this anymore.

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That's award-winning actor, Timothy

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Chalamet.

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There's been a lot of backlash.

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And unfortunately, the conversation

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has grouped in all of

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the performing arts as dying,

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including symphonies.

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We are often playing music

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that is 400 years

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old.

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That's Justice Zimmerman.

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He's the CEO of the Austin Symphony

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Orchestra.

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As an orchestra, we have to be

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careful not to get sucked into

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the sands of history and make sure

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that we're moving forward and

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creating a living, breathing art

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form.

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He says, what Chalamet brought up

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is kind of true.

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There is a feeling of adapt or

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die for the arts, but not

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necessarily for the Austin Symphony.

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They've been adapting and pushing

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the envelope, and part of that is

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this upcoming performance with the

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band Dirty Projectors.

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Indie rock, new music,

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new classical music.

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He says the Austin Symphony has

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never done anything like this

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before.

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And the newness doesn't stop there.

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Dirty Projectors are also switching

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things up.

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Here's a song from their album, Bida

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Orca. It was released in 2009.

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["Bida Orka"] And

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here's a from their latest album,

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Song of the Earth.

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Summer

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and they'll be playing songs from

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this album with the symphony

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live on stage tonight.

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Chant-a-ta-ta, chant-a ta-ta ta,

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so

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I'm going to be at a drum set, but

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I'm also going to have a giant bass

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drum next to me

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and wood chimes and

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stuff like that.

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That's Ian Frye.

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He's a percussionist with the Austin

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Symphony.

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And he says the percussion part will

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be pretty difficult.

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There's a couple of sections where

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you have to go like

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digga digga, digga-digga, and then

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hit two hands at the same time.

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That's the most technical point

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right there.

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Normally in an orchestra the

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percussion is all the way in the

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back because it's bulky and

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it's loud But for this show with

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dirty projectors, it's gonna be

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front and center They want

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you to see how intricate all the

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parts are

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When you think of a big orchestra,

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you think of dozens and

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dozens of string players.

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And if you're one in a dozen

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or so violinists, you're

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all working together to create

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a single sound.

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But for this album, Song of the

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Earth, there will be way fewer

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instruments.

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So each musician up there is going

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to be really carrying their

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own sound all by themselves.

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So, it's going to really be

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dramatic, I think.

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The preparation for this show has

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been scattered, in different rooms,

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different cities.

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This is from a rehearsal with

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percussionists in LA last week.

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Oh, it's sounding beautiful.

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And that's David Longstrith.

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He founded Dirty Projectors in 2002,

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and he composed the album,

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Song of the Earth.

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Which is the piece we're gonna be

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performing in Austin.

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He says the inspiration for the

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album came during the

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COVID lockdown.

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The original germ of a lot of this

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music came from that

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strange, suspended

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00:19:16,350 --> 00:19:18,649
place.

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You probably remember.

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When the weeks slipped into each

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other, our memories grew hazy.

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We lost track of the days,

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of ourselves.

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00:19:28,340 --> 00:19:31,219
A lot of us felt sort of

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floating or like

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estranged from

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00:19:35,060 --> 00:19:36,959
what had been

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00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,419
our prior routines

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00:19:39,420 --> 00:19:41,889
and selves.

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00:19:41,890 --> 00:19:43,649
On top of that, 2020 brought

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00:19:43,650 --> 00:19:45,469
record-setting wildfires to

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the state of California.

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At one point when

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00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,279
my wife was pregnant,

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the smoke in our neighborhood was

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like very inescapable.

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It was an experience that really,

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really made a big impression

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00:19:58,820 --> 00:19:59,820
on both of us.

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And Longstrith wanted to

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00:20:04,470 --> 00:20:06,549
distill all those feelings,

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00:20:06,550 --> 00:20:08,609
that relationship with nature and

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00:20:08,610 --> 00:20:10,869
with things out of our control into

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00:20:10,870 --> 00:20:11,839
music.

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We're at the mercy of Earth.

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We have this fantasy of having

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00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,559
created a civilization on top

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00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,379
of it, but perhaps

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00:20:21,380 --> 00:20:23,659
that is all a little bit more

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00:20:23,660 --> 00:20:25,619
tenuous and fragile

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than we might have imagined.

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00:20:27,370 --> 00:20:29,569
So the album has moments

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of wonder and mystery.

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There's a sense of

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00:20:34,270 --> 00:20:36,489
rest and

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00:20:36,490 --> 00:20:38,309
relief and

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00:20:38,310 --> 00:20:40,649
solace that you can experience

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00:20:40,650 --> 00:20:42,249
in the natural world.

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And there's also anger, lots

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00:20:44,150 --> 00:20:45,648
of anger.

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Foreboding, danger.

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Concern.

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Exciting?

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00:20:56,070 --> 00:20:58,089
He says there's so much beauty

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00:20:58,090 --> 00:21:00,609
you can experience through sound,

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00:21:00,610 --> 00:21:02,469
that it has the power to connect

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people in a physical space and

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00:21:05,070 --> 00:21:06,909
emotionally, despite

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00:21:06,910 --> 00:21:09,299
it being completely invisible.

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00:21:09,300 --> 00:21:11,159
Art is art is pointless

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00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,899
you know um

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00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:15,200
we have to choose it

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00:21:21,150 --> 00:21:23,709
And I'm so, yeah,

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00:21:23,710 --> 00:21:26,469
excited that Austin is choosing

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00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:27,470
this.

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00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,219
Each instrument will get tuned.

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00:21:42,220 --> 00:21:43,460
It will find the right notes.

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00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,359
There will be all these moving

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00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:50,519
pieces going in their own direction,

642
00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:51,800
unnecessary chaos,

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00:21:53,060 --> 00:21:54,919
before the individuals become

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00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:55,920
a collective,

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00:21:57,360 --> 00:21:58,460
breathing the same tempo.

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00:22:05,710 --> 00:22:08,349
The symphony is not dying,

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00:22:08,350 --> 00:22:10,329
it's evolving, and very

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00:22:10,330 --> 00:22:11,330
much alive.

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00:22:13,170 --> 00:22:15,329
For KT's Art Beat, I'm Maia Fawaz

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00:22:15,330 --> 00:22:16,330
in Austin.

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00:22:20,850 --> 00:22:22,729
That is it for today's

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00:22:22,730 --> 00:22:24,089
show. Thank you, as always, for

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00:22:24,090 --> 00:22:25,389
tuning in. We're going to have links

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00:22:25,390 --> 00:22:27,249
to the stories we shared in

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00:22:27,250 --> 00:22:29,149
today's episode in the podcast show

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00:22:29,150 --> 00:22:31,209
notes. And there's always more from

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00:22:31,210 --> 00:22:32,709
us, like an interview with the

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00:22:32,710 --> 00:22:34,889
co-director of Fusebox Festival.

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You can find that at kut.org

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slash signal.

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00:22:39,810 --> 00:22:41,189
Rayna Sevilla is our technical

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00:22:41,190 --> 00:22:42,749
director. Welcome back, Ray.

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00:22:42,750 --> 00:22:44,289
Kristen Cabrera is our managing

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producer.

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And I'm your host, Jerry Quijano.

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Thank you for choosing to spend part

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00:22:48,450 --> 00:22:49,929
of your day here with us.

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00:22:49,930 --> 00:22:51,349
We'll be back at the same time

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tomorrow and we'll talk to you then.