1 00:00:08,650 --> 00:00:10,349 The SAFE Alliance is preparing to 2 00:00:10,350 --> 00:00:11,769 make millions of dollars in cuts 3 00:00:11,770 --> 00:00:13,129 starting this summer. 4 00:00:13,130 --> 00:00:14,389 That includes closing a downtown 5 00:00:14,390 --> 00:00:16,549 shelter and the end of services that 6 00:00:16,550 --> 00:00:17,709 provide additional housing 7 00:00:17,710 --> 00:00:19,569 assistance to people leading an 8 00:00:19,570 --> 00:00:21,089 abusive situation. 9 00:00:21,090 --> 00:00:23,029 We've got that story, and after 10 00:00:23,030 --> 00:00:24,669 public outcry over the unexpected 11 00:00:24,670 --> 00:00:26,509 demolition of a former cafe in East 12 00:00:26,510 --> 00:00:28,209 Austin, the developer of the land 13 00:00:28,210 --> 00:00:29,689 has committed to maintaining what's 14 00:00:29,690 --> 00:00:30,989 left of the historic building it 15 00:00:30,990 --> 00:00:32,949 originally promised to preserve. 16 00:00:32,950 --> 00:00:33,869 The problem? 17 00:00:33,870 --> 00:00:35,449 Well, there's only a single wall 18 00:00:35,450 --> 00:00:36,599 left standing. 19 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,739 More about that coming up on today's 20 00:00:38,740 --> 00:00:39,249 show. 21 00:00:39,250 --> 00:00:41,149 The Austin Signal is a production 22 00:00:41,150 --> 00:00:43,249 of KUT News, hosted by 23 00:00:43,250 --> 00:00:44,399 Jerry Quijano. 24 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,659 Plus, what is the Texas 25 00:00:46,660 --> 00:00:47,739 rap anthem? 26 00:00:47,740 --> 00:00:48,959 We've got a decent selection to 27 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:50,599 choose from across the state. 28 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,019 The fellas over at the breaks are 29 00:00:52,020 --> 00:00:54,259 seeking the one true anthem. 30 00:00:54,260 --> 00:00:55,939 We're gonna talk to them about it. 31 00:00:55,940 --> 00:00:58,219 That's up next, right here on Austin 32 00:00:58,220 --> 00:00:59,220 Signal. 33 00:01:07,770 --> 00:01:10,009 Howdy out there, this is Austin 34 00:01:10,010 --> 00:01:12,009 Signal brought to you by Community 35 00:01:12,010 --> 00:01:14,329 Powered Public Radio, KUT 36 00:01:14,330 --> 00:01:15,329 News. 37 00:01:15,330 --> 00:01:16,889 I'm your host Jerry Keconnell, thank 38 00:01:16,890 --> 00:01:18,309 you for making us part of your 39 00:01:18,310 --> 00:01:19,229 Thursday. 40 00:01:19,230 --> 00:01:21,189 It is April 9th and 41 00:01:21,190 --> 00:01:23,009 rain chances are moving back into 42 00:01:23,010 --> 00:01:24,349 the Austin area, the National 43 00:01:24,350 --> 00:01:26,609 Weather Service giving us a 40% 44 00:01:26,610 --> 00:01:28,569 chance of some showers today, 45 00:01:28,570 --> 00:01:31,029 60% on Friday, 40% 46 00:01:31,030 --> 00:01:33,129 on Saturday, 50% on 47 00:01:33,130 --> 00:01:35,069 Sunday. And it looks like these rain 48 00:01:35,070 --> 00:01:37,369 chances could stay with us into 49 00:01:37,370 --> 00:01:39,329 next week, of course it's always a 50 00:01:39,330 --> 00:01:40,849 little too early to tell, but we're 51 00:01:40,850 --> 00:01:42,509 going to keep you updated on the 52 00:01:42,510 --> 00:01:44,229 latest right here on Austin Signal 53 00:01:44,230 --> 00:01:46,349 and over at KUT 54 00:01:46,350 --> 00:01:47,350 News. 55 00:01:48,370 --> 00:01:50,549 Each year the SAFE Alliance provides 56 00:01:50,550 --> 00:01:52,609 help to thousands of survivors 57 00:01:52,610 --> 00:01:54,449 of domestic violence and sexual 58 00:01:54,450 --> 00:01:55,249 assault. 59 00:01:55,250 --> 00:01:57,409 That includes places to stay, 60 00:01:57,410 --> 00:01:59,349 counseling, and other services as 61 00:01:59,350 --> 00:02:01,169 needed. But now the organization 62 00:02:01,170 --> 00:02:02,909 is dealing with a drop in government 63 00:02:02,910 --> 00:02:04,809 funding, which could lead to the 64 00:02:04,810 --> 00:02:06,230 end of several programs. 65 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,179 KUT's Luz Moreno Lozano has the 66 00:02:09,180 --> 00:02:10,099 story. 67 00:02:10,100 --> 00:02:12,119 The organization provides about 20 68 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:13,399 programs to families leaving 69 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,199 domestic violence and sexual assault 70 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,679 situations. 71 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,199 Four of those could be forced to 72 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,979 close this year because of a lack of 73 00:02:19,980 --> 00:02:20,959 funds. 74 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:22,619 Those programs help house women and 75 00:02:22,620 --> 00:02:23,959 children who've escaped dangerous 76 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,839 situations, programs that 77 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,499 keep children safe, and one that 78 00:02:27,500 --> 00:02:29,419 performs forensic exams on sexual 79 00:02:29,420 --> 00:02:30,420 assault victims. 80 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:32,979 The nonprofit says it's lost about 81 00:02:32,980 --> 00:02:35,119 $4 million over the last year. 82 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:36,759 That includes two million from 83 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,989 local, state, and federal funds. 84 00:02:38,990 --> 00:02:40,449 Pierre Beresine is the executive 85 00:02:40,450 --> 00:02:42,079 director for the SAFE Alliance. 86 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:43,419 If an organization were operating 87 00:02:43,420 --> 00:02:45,479 just a domestic violence shelter, 88 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,399 they wouldn't have access to 89 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,679 that whole ecosystem from 90 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,599 Planet Safe to Eloise 91 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,739 House to Bridge to Safety 92 00:02:53,740 --> 00:02:56,379 to health care navigation, 93 00:02:56,380 --> 00:02:58,459 court accompaniment, children's 94 00:02:58,460 --> 00:03:00,439 services, therapeutic and counseling 95 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:01,279 services. 96 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:02,759 And I can just go on and on and 97 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,819 because survivors have complex 98 00:03:04,820 --> 00:03:05,669 lives. 99 00:03:05,670 --> 00:03:06,949 He says it's what makes the safe 100 00:03:06,950 --> 00:03:08,789 program model so effective, and 101 00:03:08,790 --> 00:03:09,969 without it, people and children 102 00:03:09,970 --> 00:03:10,970 could suffer. 103 00:03:11,670 --> 00:03:13,289 He says beyond government funding, 104 00:03:13,290 --> 00:03:14,809 private donors are feeling the pinch 105 00:03:14,810 --> 00:03:16,209 of the rise in cost of living. 106 00:03:17,430 --> 00:03:19,069 Quite a long time now, the SAFE 107 00:03:19,070 --> 00:03:21,069 Alliance has provided some core 108 00:03:21,070 --> 00:03:22,929 services that 109 00:03:22,930 --> 00:03:24,889 benefit austenites 110 00:03:24,890 --> 00:03:27,289 and benefit systems 111 00:03:27,290 --> 00:03:29,329 that now are 112 00:03:29,330 --> 00:03:31,609 under threat if we don't 113 00:03:31,610 --> 00:03:33,689 have an appropriate multi-party 114 00:03:33,690 --> 00:03:36,179 investment in our services. 115 00:03:36,180 --> 00:03:37,639 One of those investments is the 116 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,039 overnight emergency shelter the 117 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,519 organization operates in downtown 118 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:42,479 Austin that helps families and their 119 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,139 children. Without funding, the 120 00:03:44,140 --> 00:03:45,919 facility could close in October. 121 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,699 Currently, right now, we have 55 122 00:03:47,700 --> 00:03:49,519 children in 123 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,019 that shelter. 124 00:03:51,020 --> 00:03:53,239 55 children whose parents 125 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,679 experienced domestic 126 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,080 abuse, physical abuse. 127 00:03:58,620 --> 00:04:00,199 And what happens if that shelter 128 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,419 closes is that you 129 00:04:02,420 --> 00:04:04,519 have 55 and their 130 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,939 mothers, for the most part, 131 00:04:06,940 --> 00:04:08,499 who have nowhere else to go. 132 00:04:08,500 --> 00:04:09,879 Makani Kauck was one of those 133 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,879 mothers. For years, she endured 134 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:13,339 abuse from her partner before 135 00:04:13,340 --> 00:04:14,779 becoming pregnant. 136 00:04:14,780 --> 00:04:16,199 She couldn't turn to her family, so 137 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:17,859 she ended up living in a tent with 138 00:04:17,860 --> 00:04:20,179 her then two-year-old daughter. 139 00:04:20,180 --> 00:04:21,679 After her abuser threatened their 140 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:23,739 lives, Safe stepped in, offering her 141 00:04:23,740 --> 00:04:25,419 and her daughter shelter. 142 00:04:25,420 --> 00:04:27,129 They lived there for several months. 143 00:04:27,130 --> 00:04:29,149 So we ended up using lots of 144 00:04:29,150 --> 00:04:30,269 different services. We used 145 00:04:30,270 --> 00:04:32,189 supportive housing, which 146 00:04:32,190 --> 00:04:33,629 was great because it came with the 147 00:04:33,630 --> 00:04:35,669 added security, it came the added 148 00:04:35,670 --> 00:04:37,169 case management. 149 00:04:37,170 --> 00:04:38,989 Today, Calc's daughter is 13 years 150 00:04:38,990 --> 00:04:40,589 old. She visits her dad on some 151 00:04:40,590 --> 00:04:41,949 weekends through a secure child 152 00:04:41,950 --> 00:04:44,089 exchange program called Planet Safe, 153 00:04:44,090 --> 00:04:45,289 another program that could close 154 00:04:45,290 --> 00:04:46,869 this summer without funding. 155 00:04:46,870 --> 00:04:48,469 A lot of us as survivors are 156 00:04:48,470 --> 00:04:50,029 co-parenting with our rapists and 157 00:04:50,030 --> 00:04:51,629 our abusers. 158 00:04:51,630 --> 00:04:53,669 Planet Safe is so crucial to 159 00:04:53,670 --> 00:04:55,609 that. They actually 160 00:04:55,610 --> 00:04:57,469 retrieved my child when 161 00:04:57,470 --> 00:04:59,889 they were kidnapped at one point. 162 00:04:59,890 --> 00:05:01,629 But I still co- parent with my 163 00:05:01,630 --> 00:05:04,909 abuser and it's 164 00:05:04,910 --> 00:05:06,619 scary, it's really scary. 165 00:05:06,620 --> 00:05:08,119 The Safe Alliance doesn't just focus 166 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,459 on getting people away from their 167 00:05:09,460 --> 00:05:11,179 abusers and providing shelter. 168 00:05:11,180 --> 00:05:12,359 Another program that could close 169 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,739 this summer works to keep families 170 00:05:13,740 --> 00:05:15,439 together. 171 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,139 Jo Meyer and her daughter were able 172 00:05:17,140 --> 00:05:18,899 to be reunited with help from Safe 173 00:05:18,900 --> 00:05:19,999 Futures. 174 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:21,279 As a young mom, she had started 175 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:23,039 doing drugs, which resulted in her 176 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,199 daughter being removed from her 177 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:25,159 custody. 178 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:26,659 She had to work to get her back, but 179 00:05:26,660 --> 00:05:27,439 she did it. 180 00:05:27,440 --> 00:05:29,659 She got sober, she got a steady job, 181 00:05:29,660 --> 00:05:31,299 and with the support of her Safe 182 00:05:31,300 --> 00:05:32,899 Futurs advocate, she was able to 183 00:05:32,900 --> 00:05:34,479 navigate the court system and her 184 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:35,859 CPS case. 185 00:05:35,860 --> 00:05:37,479 Myra says the outgate was one of the 186 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:38,039 only people. 187 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,479 She trusted. 188 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,519 She was somebody who was not, did 189 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,619 not work for the court system or 190 00:05:43,620 --> 00:05:44,879 CPS. 191 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,819 That was like an outside entity that 192 00:05:46,820 --> 00:05:48,739 I could like tell everything 193 00:05:48,740 --> 00:05:50,579 to about what had 194 00:05:50,580 --> 00:05:52,479 happened and what's going on and 195 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,579 like just like literally 196 00:05:54,580 --> 00:05:56,459 anything and like she was able 197 00:05:56,460 --> 00:05:58,539 to like help me in 198 00:05:58,540 --> 00:05:59,979 ways that nobody else could. 199 00:05:59,980 --> 00:06:00,969 Beyond those specific 200 00:06:00,970 --> 00:06:02,969 program's funding cuts could mean 201 00:06:02,970 --> 00:06:05,089 just less help can be offered. 202 00:06:05,090 --> 00:06:06,909 Everything from emergency support to 203 00:06:06,910 --> 00:06:08,449 ongoing care. 204 00:06:08,450 --> 00:06:10,049 Makani Kalk not only benefited from 205 00:06:10,050 --> 00:06:11,849 the SAFE Alliance, but she is now a 206 00:06:11,850 --> 00:06:13,469 peer support specialist. 207 00:06:13,470 --> 00:06:15,209 She gets to help others heal the 208 00:06:15,210 --> 00:06:16,379 same way she did. 209 00:06:16,380 --> 00:06:17,979 And it was peer support that really 210 00:06:17,980 --> 00:06:19,979 started to heal my heart and 211 00:06:19,980 --> 00:06:21,299 my spirit. 212 00:06:21,300 --> 00:06:23,159 And I think at the heart of peer 213 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,139 support, it's about connecting with 214 00:06:25,140 --> 00:06:26,559 people that have been there and that 215 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,479 are going through and living through 216 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:29,819 the same situations. 217 00:06:29,820 --> 00:06:31,699 And so we are mutually 218 00:06:31,700 --> 00:06:33,839 vulnerable in a lot of ways. 219 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:35,919 SAFE CEO Pierre Berestine says 220 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:37,399 he's still working to find the money 221 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:38,619 needed to keep those programs 222 00:06:38,620 --> 00:06:40,239 running. He's met with city and 223 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:41,639 state leaders and now local 224 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:42,479 hospitals. 225 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,439 It's not on the city alone to figure 226 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,419 out. It's none of the county alone 227 00:06:46,420 --> 00:06:48,059 to figure out, right? 228 00:06:48,060 --> 00:06:49,719 This is why we are in active 229 00:06:49,720 --> 00:06:51,219 conversations with the hospitals 230 00:06:51,220 --> 00:06:53,079 right now to ensure that these 231 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,239 services stabilize because we 232 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,079 prevent folks from 233 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:58,999 coming inappropriately 234 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,519 to the emergency room. 235 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,079 Austin City officials and the 236 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:03,419 hospital systems have been working 237 00:07:03,420 --> 00:07:05,559 with SAFE to find a path forward. 238 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:07,279 Austin Mayor Kirk Watson says he is 239 00:07:07,280 --> 00:07:08,959 optimistic about finding a solution 240 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,920 to keep all four programs running. 241 00:07:12,020 --> 00:07:13,859 I'm Luz Moreno Lozano in 242 00:07:13,860 --> 00:07:14,860 Austin. 243 00:07:21,850 --> 00:07:23,669 For years, the coffee shop and 244 00:07:23,670 --> 00:07:25,669 eatery Cenote occupied what many 245 00:07:25,670 --> 00:07:27,449 considered to be an iconic Austin 246 00:07:27,450 --> 00:07:30,209 structure built in the late 1800s. 247 00:07:30,210 --> 00:07:31,869 Over the years, owners made efforts 248 00:07:31,870 --> 00:07:33,789 to preserve the historic site while 249 00:07:33,790 --> 00:07:35,749 also maintaining their business, and 250 00:07:35,750 --> 00:07:37,769 when they vacated the property, 251 00:07:37,770 --> 00:07:39,109 they did so with assurances that the 252 00:07:39,110 --> 00:07:40,429 next tenant would have the same 253 00:07:40,430 --> 00:07:42,429 viewpoint and preserve the building, 254 00:07:42,430 --> 00:07:44,189 and so did the city of Austin. 255 00:07:44,190 --> 00:07:45,589 But with nearly all of the property 256 00:07:45,590 --> 00:07:47,629 now bulldozed over, with just 257 00:07:47,630 --> 00:07:49,509 one wall left many 258 00:07:49,510 --> 00:07:51,269 austenites are left wondering what 259 00:07:51,270 --> 00:07:52,139 happened. 260 00:07:52,140 --> 00:07:53,679 For more, we're speaking with Sam 261 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,499 Stark, government reporter at Austin 262 00:07:55,500 --> 00:07:56,619 Current. Great to have you back, 263 00:07:56,620 --> 00:07:58,419 Sam. Yeah, thanks for having me. 264 00:07:58,420 --> 00:07:59,799 So walk us through the story a 265 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:01,419 little bit. Who first noticed that 266 00:08:01,420 --> 00:08:02,779 something was wrong when they looked 267 00:08:02,780 --> 00:08:04,459 at this plot of land after 268 00:08:04,460 --> 00:08:05,039 construction at? 269 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,299 Started already. 270 00:08:06,300 --> 00:08:08,159 Yeah, so it was actually the former 271 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,519 Cenote owner who is 272 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:12,619 now operating her cafe out of 273 00:08:12,620 --> 00:08:14,459 a restaurant just a couple of 274 00:08:14,460 --> 00:08:17,099 blocks away from the original site. 275 00:08:17,100 --> 00:08:19,919 But she saw that the 276 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,879 building was reduced to essentially 277 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,119 just one wall, the facade 278 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,059 of the historic building. 279 00:08:26,060 --> 00:08:27,619 She knew the developers who were 280 00:08:27,620 --> 00:08:29,999 moving in after she vacated. 281 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,099 It was a South Texas developer. 282 00:08:32,100 --> 00:08:34,058 Who purchased it, planning to bring 283 00:08:34,059 --> 00:08:36,079 a Southern California-based chain, 284 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:37,639 Earth Cafe. 285 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,499 They applied for a permit 286 00:08:39,500 --> 00:08:42,099 saying at the time they would quote, 287 00:08:42,100 --> 00:08:43,639 or the quote, intent would be to 288 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:45,939 preserve as much as possible of 289 00:08:45,940 --> 00:08:47,839 the shell, but that's clearly 290 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:49,259 not what ended up happening. 291 00:08:49,260 --> 00:08:50,919 Yeah, seeing that one wall just 292 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,899 there was pretty jarring. 293 00:08:52,900 --> 00:08:53,819 What were the original work 294 00:08:53,820 --> 00:08:55,479 parameters that the city gave to the 295 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:56,889 new tenants? 296 00:08:56,890 --> 00:08:58,749 The city told them, or 297 00:08:58,750 --> 00:09:01,109 they were okay with their 298 00:09:01,110 --> 00:09:03,289 plans to essentially renovate 299 00:09:03,290 --> 00:09:05,569 and reconstruct a lot of the 300 00:09:05,570 --> 00:09:07,309 facade, but as soon as they saw how 301 00:09:07,310 --> 00:09:09,189 much they demolished, they 302 00:09:09,190 --> 00:09:11,089 issued a stop work order and which 303 00:09:11,090 --> 00:09:13,459 still remains in effect this week. 304 00:09:13,460 --> 00:09:14,679 Okay, well this destruction has 305 00:09:14,680 --> 00:09:16,519 gotten a lot of people upset. 306 00:09:17,580 --> 00:09:19,019 What is the reasoning behind that? 307 00:09:19,020 --> 00:09:20,619 Is it because Austin is already 308 00:09:20,620 --> 00:09:22,119 changing so much and here's one more 309 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,319 piece of Austin that's gone away? 310 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,259 Or is it more so a focus 311 00:09:26,260 --> 00:09:28,179 on this iconic home that was in East 312 00:09:28,180 --> 00:09:28,699 Austin? 313 00:09:28,700 --> 00:09:30,599 Yeah, well, this this structure 314 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,479 specifically had people had 315 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:33,799 their eyes on that for being 316 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,639 preserved, it was on a list 317 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,059 of buildings with a high priority 318 00:09:38,060 --> 00:09:39,499 of being preserved. 319 00:09:39,500 --> 00:09:41,279 But especially on East Austin, where 320 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:42,639 a lot of historic and older 321 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:44,979 buildings have been demolished, 322 00:09:44,980 --> 00:09:46,799 people are sensitive to when 323 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,999 something like this occurs. 324 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:50,619 But the developers actually had to 325 00:09:50,620 --> 00:09:52,059 go back in front of the historic 326 00:09:52,060 --> 00:09:53,959 landmark commission last week 327 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:55,379 and the historic Landmark 328 00:09:55,380 --> 00:09:57,219 commissioners did not hide their 329 00:09:57,220 --> 00:09:59,219 disappointment from the 330 00:09:59,220 --> 00:10:00,059 developers. 331 00:10:00,060 --> 00:10:02,339 What did you hear at that meeting? 332 00:10:02,340 --> 00:10:04,159 So the developing team 333 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,279 told them that when their 334 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,039 intent was to preserve as much as 335 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,019 the building as possible, 336 00:10:10,020 --> 00:10:11,779 but when they started demolishing 337 00:10:11,780 --> 00:10:13,539 it, they realized that the damage 338 00:10:13,540 --> 00:10:15,499 was far beyond what they 339 00:10:15,500 --> 00:10:17,419 expected. And they had to demolish 340 00:10:17,420 --> 00:10:19,399 what was there in order for 341 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:20,839 it not to collapse. 342 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,339 But the commissioners did not 343 00:10:22,340 --> 00:10:24,339 necessarily buy this excuse. 344 00:10:24,340 --> 00:10:25,879 They said if they were well versed 345 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:26,969 in preservation. 346 00:10:26,970 --> 00:10:28,089 They would have recognized that 347 00:10:28,090 --> 00:10:29,769 these are common issues one might 348 00:10:29,770 --> 00:10:31,189 encounter when working with older 349 00:10:31,190 --> 00:10:32,089 buildings. 350 00:10:32,090 --> 00:10:33,529 They said instead of proceeding with 351 00:10:33,530 --> 00:10:34,749 the demolition, they should have 352 00:10:34,750 --> 00:10:36,429 consulted with a preservation expert 353 00:10:36,430 --> 00:10:38,249 or with the commission for advice 354 00:10:38,250 --> 00:10:39,649 if they were serious about 355 00:10:39,650 --> 00:10:41,519 preserving the structure. 356 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,539 There is now a stop-work order on 357 00:10:43,540 --> 00:10:44,839 this property. What does that mean 358 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:45,029 for the? 359 00:10:45,030 --> 00:10:46,729 Future of the land? 360 00:10:46,730 --> 00:10:48,689 So the developer actually will go in 361 00:10:48,690 --> 00:10:49,809 front of the commission's 362 00:10:49,810 --> 00:10:52,069 architectural review committee this 363 00:10:52,070 --> 00:10:54,409 afternoon, or Wednesday afternoon, 364 00:10:54,410 --> 00:10:56,349 to outline the proposed rebuilds. 365 00:10:56,350 --> 00:10:57,869 Without official historic 366 00:10:57,870 --> 00:10:59,689 designation though, the 367 00:10:59,690 --> 00:11:01,309 commission power is limited to 368 00:11:01,310 --> 00:11:03,229 giving advice, so after they present 369 00:11:03,230 --> 00:11:05,349 their plans, it is expected 370 00:11:05,350 --> 00:11:06,669 that they will be able to proceed 371 00:11:06,670 --> 00:11:08,959 with building that new cafe. 372 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:10,459 Okay, there are certainly lots of 373 00:11:10,460 --> 00:11:12,359 upset feelings around this story 374 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:13,899 and many people are calling for 375 00:11:13,900 --> 00:11:15,199 consequences. 376 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:16,279 Is that likely to happen? 377 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:17,939 I mean, is it even possible for 378 00:11:17,940 --> 00:11:19,589 consequences in this kind of matter? 379 00:11:19,590 --> 00:11:21,309 Yeah, so one group with a vested 380 00:11:21,310 --> 00:11:23,129 interest in this type of stuff is 381 00:11:23,130 --> 00:11:25,429 Preservation Austin, and they were 382 00:11:25,430 --> 00:11:27,349 very disappointed in 383 00:11:27,350 --> 00:11:28,409 this process. 384 00:11:28,410 --> 00:11:29,969 They told me that they think it's 385 00:11:29,970 --> 00:11:31,789 time that we figure out a way 386 00:11:31,790 --> 00:11:33,089 to make sure something like this 387 00:11:33,090 --> 00:11:35,049 doesn't happen again, calling it 388 00:11:35,050 --> 00:11:36,169 unacceptable. 389 00:11:36,170 --> 00:11:37,729 Right now, however, there is no 390 00:11:37,730 --> 00:11:39,669 indication of a new ordinance or 391 00:11:39,670 --> 00:11:41,169 code to prevent this from happening 392 00:11:41,170 --> 00:11:42,249 in the future. 393 00:11:42,250 --> 00:11:43,969 But they said just getting the word 394 00:11:43,970 --> 00:11:45,729 out about situations like this is 395 00:11:45,730 --> 00:11:46,719 helpful. 396 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,459 Okay Sam, before we let you go, in 397 00:11:48,460 --> 00:11:50,099 your role at Austin Current you also 398 00:11:50,100 --> 00:11:51,979 work hand-in-hand with Austin PBS on 399 00:11:51,980 --> 00:11:53,819 the show Austin Insight that airs 400 00:11:53,820 --> 00:11:55,619 Thursdays at 7 p.m. 401 00:11:55,620 --> 00:11:56,899 What are you working on this week? 402 00:11:56,900 --> 00:11:58,359 Yeah, so my story is on the 403 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,239 cumbersome rollout of the new 404 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:02,479 short-term rental regulations. 405 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:04,299 On July 1st, all short-terms rentals 406 00:12:04,300 --> 00:12:06,419 on sites like Airbnb and VRBO 407 00:12:06,420 --> 00:12:08,699 will need to have a license listed, 408 00:12:08,700 --> 00:12:09,919 but some of the short- term rental 409 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,599 operators I spoke to say the 410 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,559 convoluted process is likely to 411 00:12:13,560 --> 00:12:15,059 make some operators miss the 412 00:12:15,060 --> 00:12:15,899 deadline. 413 00:12:15,900 --> 00:12:17,579 All right, that is on Austin Insight 414 00:12:17,580 --> 00:12:19,639 that airs Thursdays at 7 p.m. 415 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:20,799 We have been speaking with Sam 416 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,439 Stark, government reporter for 417 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,259 Austin Current, our partners in 418 00:12:24,260 --> 00:12:25,739 covering the city of Austin. 419 00:12:25,740 --> 00:12:26,699 Sam, it's always great to talk with 420 00:12:26,700 --> 00:12:27,699 you. Great to be here. 421 00:12:27,700 --> 00:12:28,740 We'll be back after a break. 422 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,739 This is Austin Signal, welcome back. 423 00:12:41,740 --> 00:12:43,439 Model railroading has been a popular 424 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,339 hobby pretty much as 425 00:12:45,340 --> 00:12:47,779 long as trains have been around. 426 00:12:47,780 --> 00:12:49,699 Steven Jacobs has been fan for 427 00:12:49,700 --> 00:12:51,599 about half a century now. 428 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,519 He spoke with Mike Lee about it for 429 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,240 the This Is My Thing podcast. 430 00:12:56,620 --> 00:12:57,979 Going over the bridge, you're going 431 00:12:57,980 --> 00:12:58,980 to turn the shift. 432 00:13:00,420 --> 00:13:01,619 And this is something you've been 433 00:13:01,620 --> 00:13:03,269 doing for decades. 434 00:13:03,270 --> 00:13:05,189 My dad passed on a train set 435 00:13:05,190 --> 00:13:06,809 to me when i was ten years old it 436 00:13:06,810 --> 00:13:08,249 didn't take for him as a hobby but 437 00:13:08,250 --> 00:13:10,149 it took for me every boy needs an 438 00:13:10,150 --> 00:13:11,949 obsession at that age and i found a 439 00:13:11,950 --> 00:13:13,789 good one least i think i thought 440 00:13:23,580 --> 00:13:25,499 So what do you think it was about 441 00:13:25,500 --> 00:13:27,339 that first train, when you 442 00:13:27,340 --> 00:13:29,339 were 10 years old, that just kind of 443 00:13:29,340 --> 00:13:31,159 grabbed your brain and made 444 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:32,159 you love it? 445 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,559 So I think it was that I 446 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:36,619 could create a 447 00:13:36,620 --> 00:13:39,119 whole complicated world, 448 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,279 that I could really track work 449 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,019 such that it would move in 450 00:13:43,020 --> 00:13:44,939 complicated ways and 451 00:13:44,940 --> 00:13:47,079 could simulate what real trains do, 452 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,179 which move with purpose. 453 00:13:49,180 --> 00:13:51,099 It was something I could always 454 00:13:51,100 --> 00:13:53,059 go to and add in terms of 455 00:13:53,060 --> 00:13:54,859 details, whether it was building or 456 00:13:54,860 --> 00:13:56,899 painting cars, 457 00:13:56,900 --> 00:13:58,739 learned about electricity, learned 458 00:13:58,740 --> 00:13:59,979 about woodworking. 459 00:13:59,980 --> 00:14:01,439 I learned a little bit about 460 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,439 metalworking, I could 461 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:04,440 create things. 462 00:14:06,870 --> 00:14:08,909 So we are in our spare 463 00:14:08,910 --> 00:14:11,429 room which I share with my wife and 464 00:14:11,430 --> 00:14:13,309 what we have is it's about 11 465 00:14:13,310 --> 00:14:15,169 by 14 is 466 00:14:15,170 --> 00:14:17,349 a built over time a 467 00:14:17,350 --> 00:14:19,329 shelf that holds the trains 468 00:14:19,330 --> 00:14:21,429 halfway around the room so 469 00:14:21,430 --> 00:14:23,529 what you're looking at is a 470 00:14:23,530 --> 00:14:25,489 mythical might-have-been railroad 471 00:14:25,490 --> 00:14:27,429 that would have run between 472 00:14:27,430 --> 00:14:29,249 Austin and Taylor 473 00:14:29,250 --> 00:14:31,349 northeast of here was 474 00:14:31,350 --> 00:14:33,109 a big railroad town Taylor was and 475 00:14:33,110 --> 00:14:33,969 that's where we started. 476 00:14:33,970 --> 00:14:34,969 So we'll start over here. 477 00:14:34,970 --> 00:14:36,849 When you were 10, how long did it 478 00:14:36,850 --> 00:14:39,409 take between opening that box and 479 00:14:39,410 --> 00:14:41,359 realizing you were a train guy? 480 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:42,939 It didn't take very long. 481 00:14:42,940 --> 00:14:44,939 This is up in Northern Wisconsin. 482 00:14:44,940 --> 00:14:46,719 We lived in a city called superior 483 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:48,439 on Lake superior. 484 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,499 And it's cold up there for 10 485 00:14:50,500 --> 00:14:51,779 months of the year. 486 00:14:51,780 --> 00:14:53,479 So guys are down in their basements 487 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,239 with their model railroads began 488 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:56,779 spending a lot of time at the hobby 489 00:14:56,780 --> 00:14:58,379 shop by time was 14. 490 00:14:58,380 --> 00:14:59,339 I was spending so much time there 491 00:14:59,340 --> 00:15:00,419 that they hired me. 492 00:15:00,420 --> 00:15:00,509 So 493 00:15:00,510 --> 00:15:01,709 You're going to be there anyway. 494 00:15:01,710 --> 00:15:03,349 I was going to be there anyway and I 495 00:15:03,350 --> 00:15:05,209 did not take much money home, got 496 00:15:05,210 --> 00:15:06,609 paid a buck and a quarter an hour 497 00:15:06,610 --> 00:15:08,109 and didn't even take that home, but 498 00:15:08,110 --> 00:15:09,529 I took a lot of product home, some 499 00:15:09,530 --> 00:15:11,309 of which I've still got and still 500 00:15:11,310 --> 00:15:12,310 put to use today. 501 00:15:16,970 --> 00:15:18,029 And you'll hear... 502 00:15:29,390 --> 00:15:31,369 And to see what looks to be possibly 503 00:15:31,370 --> 00:15:33,189 a work in progress over here of a 504 00:15:33,190 --> 00:15:33,589 boxcar. 505 00:15:33,590 --> 00:15:35,489 We have a, yep, we have 506 00:15:35,490 --> 00:15:37,309 a box car in progress, it's in the 507 00:15:37,310 --> 00:15:38,449 paint booth. 508 00:15:38,450 --> 00:15:40,749 You'll hear an 509 00:15:40,750 --> 00:15:42,789 exhaust fan and a compressor, 510 00:15:43,830 --> 00:15:45,689 we'll fire it up, do that quite 511 00:15:45,690 --> 00:15:47,149 a bit here because one of the things 512 00:15:47,150 --> 00:15:48,299 I really enjoy is... 513 00:15:48,300 --> 00:15:50,119 I know that you can go into a hobby 514 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,139 store and buy little 515 00:15:52,140 --> 00:15:54,439 buildings and things to put in 516 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:55,819 a train layout. 517 00:15:55,820 --> 00:15:57,439 Do you buy some of yours or I know 518 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,429 you make some as well? 519 00:15:59,430 --> 00:16:01,449 So, the part that really attracts 520 00:16:01,450 --> 00:16:04,029 me, gives me energy, 521 00:16:04,030 --> 00:16:05,849 is the creative part, you 522 00:16:05,850 --> 00:16:07,189 know, this little myth I made up 523 00:16:07,190 --> 00:16:09,349 about Austin and Taylor, that's one, 524 00:16:09,350 --> 00:16:12,209 but the other is fashioning 525 00:16:12,210 --> 00:16:14,149 something that didn't exist 526 00:16:14,150 --> 00:16:15,609 before. 527 00:16:15,610 --> 00:16:17,169 To be honest, I don't buy anything 528 00:16:17,170 --> 00:16:19,109 without improving 529 00:16:19,110 --> 00:16:21,749 it. Absolutely nothing is 530 00:16:21,750 --> 00:16:23,229 as it would have come out of the 531 00:16:23,230 --> 00:16:24,199 box. 532 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,019 Did you know that you needed 533 00:16:26,020 --> 00:16:28,359 that sort of creative outlet or 534 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:29,360 did that just sort of come? 535 00:16:30,410 --> 00:16:31,549 Good question. 536 00:16:32,730 --> 00:16:34,849 So a lot of people 537 00:16:34,850 --> 00:16:36,849 like things settled. 538 00:16:36,850 --> 00:16:38,749 I'm not someone that 539 00:16:38,750 --> 00:16:40,669 likes them settled and if they are 540 00:16:40,670 --> 00:16:42,809 settled my instinct is 541 00:16:42,810 --> 00:16:44,709 to unsettle 542 00:16:44,710 --> 00:16:45,889 it. 543 00:16:45,890 --> 00:16:46,909 I've always been of the mind that 544 00:16:46,910 --> 00:16:49,249 things can be improved and 545 00:16:49,250 --> 00:16:50,329 maybe it's because I was the 546 00:16:50,330 --> 00:16:52,029 youngest of five and the job 547 00:16:52,030 --> 00:16:53,449 description is you have to be the 548 00:16:53,450 --> 00:16:55,469 rebel. The older ones are the rule 549 00:16:55,470 --> 00:16:57,809 makers and you want to be the rule 550 00:16:57,810 --> 00:16:58,979 reshapers. 551 00:16:58,980 --> 00:17:00,439 You must come from a very wholesome 552 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:01,899 family if you're the family rebel, 553 00:17:01,900 --> 00:17:03,259 and as a teenager you were working 554 00:17:03,260 --> 00:17:05,078 at a hot shop and 555 00:17:05,079 --> 00:17:06,079 building model trains. 556 00:17:07,819 --> 00:17:09,828 Not a wild child, I admit. 557 00:17:09,829 --> 00:17:11,969 There are plenty of ways to rebel. 558 00:17:11,970 --> 00:17:13,749 Yeah, that's right. They don't have 559 00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:14,489 to be destroyed. 560 00:17:14,490 --> 00:17:15,490 That's right. 561 00:17:20,930 --> 00:17:22,588 That was model railroading 562 00:17:22,589 --> 00:17:24,189 enthusiast Steven Jacobs speaking 563 00:17:24,190 --> 00:17:26,088 with Mike Lee for the This Is 564 00:17:26,089 --> 00:17:27,429 My Thing podcast. 565 00:17:27,430 --> 00:17:28,849 We're going to have a link in our 566 00:17:28,850 --> 00:17:30,369 show notes so you can listen to the 567 00:17:30,370 --> 00:17:32,529 full episode that is This 568 00:17:32,530 --> 00:17:35,609 Is My Things. 569 00:17:35,610 --> 00:17:36,909 Brackets for this year's men's and 570 00:17:36,910 --> 00:17:38,589 women's NCAA basketball tournaments 571 00:17:38,590 --> 00:17:39,889 wrapped up in the past couple of 572 00:17:39,890 --> 00:17:41,329 days, but there is still one 573 00:17:41,330 --> 00:17:42,849 competition looking to crown its 574 00:17:42,850 --> 00:17:43,649 champion. 575 00:17:43,650 --> 00:17:44,949 For more about that, we are talking 576 00:17:44,950 --> 00:17:46,629 with the hosts of The Breaks, Fresh 577 00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:47,749 Night and Confucius Jones. 578 00:17:47,750 --> 00:17:49,009 Welcome back to the show, fellas. 579 00:17:49,010 --> 00:17:49,451 Thanks for having me. Thanks. 580 00:17:49,452 --> 00:17:50,469 Thanks for having us. I feel like a 581 00:17:50,470 --> 00:17:50,669 regular. 582 00:17:50,670 --> 00:17:52,369 You are becoming regulars very 583 00:17:52,370 --> 00:17:53,909 quickly very quickly. 584 00:17:53,910 --> 00:17:55,029 So let's talk about that 585 00:17:55,030 --> 00:17:56,249 competition. I mentioned y'all been 586 00:17:56,250 --> 00:17:57,649 playing that out over the last few 587 00:17:57,650 --> 00:17:59,509 weeks on the breaks What is the 588 00:17:59,510 --> 00:18:00,099 competition? 589 00:18:00,100 --> 00:18:02,099 It is a 590 00:18:02,100 --> 00:18:03,979 March Madness Final Four style 591 00:18:03,980 --> 00:18:06,119 bracket of the Texas 592 00:18:06,120 --> 00:18:08,239 rap anthems. 593 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,299 So songs that we or 594 00:18:10,300 --> 00:18:12,179 most Texan rap 595 00:18:12,180 --> 00:18:14,219 fans would deem an 596 00:18:14,220 --> 00:18:15,779 anthem for the state of Texas once 597 00:18:15,780 --> 00:18:16,780 you hear it. 598 00:18:17,330 --> 00:18:18,730 64 just like the 599 00:18:21,389 --> 00:18:23,149 64 Texas rap anthem 600 00:18:23,150 --> 00:18:25,089 I think the initial list we had 601 00:18:25,090 --> 00:18:27,429 we were probably closer to 64. 602 00:18:27,430 --> 00:18:29,509 Okay. Okay, I think we 603 00:18:29,510 --> 00:18:31,769 Initially had maybe 40 604 00:18:31,770 --> 00:18:32,549 to 50 songs. 605 00:18:32,550 --> 00:18:34,609 Okay But we whittled it down to 606 00:18:34,610 --> 00:18:36,649 16 which it took a lot. 607 00:18:36,650 --> 00:18:38,449 Okay? So who were some of those 16? 608 00:18:39,830 --> 00:18:41,569 16 we started with were little 609 00:18:41,570 --> 00:18:43,629 flips. I can do that June 27th 610 00:18:43,630 --> 00:18:44,650 by DJ screw 611 00:18:45,690 --> 00:18:47,729 25 lighters 25 light years 612 00:18:47,730 --> 00:18:49,629 DJ DMD most hit it 613 00:18:49,630 --> 00:18:51,670 down by zero, which I am surprised 614 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,599 Okay, I was definitely gonna ask 615 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:56,499 y'all about about upsets 616 00:18:56,500 --> 00:18:57,759 in the tournament, but were there 617 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,319 any Austin are there any, Austin 618 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:01,029 Texas rap anthems 619 00:19:01,030 --> 00:19:03,149 Fortunately, there were 620 00:19:03,150 --> 00:19:04,229 not. 621 00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:06,109 It was very Houston heavy, because 622 00:19:06,110 --> 00:19:08,849 I just think Houston is the 623 00:19:08,850 --> 00:19:10,689 purveyor and steward of the culture 624 00:19:10,690 --> 00:19:12,969 here in Texas, so most 625 00:19:12,970 --> 00:19:14,749 of the songs that you would know off 626 00:19:14,750 --> 00:19:16,409 the top of your head come from 627 00:19:16,410 --> 00:19:17,639 Houston. 628 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:19,659 Okay, so you mentioned a song 629 00:19:19,660 --> 00:19:21,559 that you didn't anticipate was 630 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:22,799 going to be knocked out. 631 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,489 What were the biggest upsets? 632 00:19:24,490 --> 00:19:26,249 Most of the time, definitely. 633 00:19:26,250 --> 00:19:27,509 I've been in parties before. 634 00:19:27,510 --> 00:19:28,469 Fresh has been in a party where that 635 00:19:28,470 --> 00:19:29,449 song comes on and everybody knows 636 00:19:29,450 --> 00:19:30,809 the words to it. 637 00:19:30,810 --> 00:19:32,369 I thought it would at least make the 638 00:19:32,370 --> 00:19:34,709 final four, it didn't. 639 00:19:34,710 --> 00:19:36,409 I thought maybe 25 lighters would 640 00:19:36,410 --> 00:19:38,489 make it to the last two and 641 00:19:38,490 --> 00:19:40,349 it didn't so that 642 00:19:40,350 --> 00:19:41,149 was my two upsets. 643 00:19:41,150 --> 00:19:42,599 I might have to think about it. 644 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:44,559 My biggest upset would be Mo City 645 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,239 Dawn, much like Confucius. 646 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,599 Like he said, we've both been in 647 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,619 functions where the song comes 648 00:19:50,620 --> 00:19:52,759 on, and even before people 649 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,659 play the verse 650 00:19:54,660 --> 00:19:56,479 from Zero, they ask you, like, if 651 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:58,119 you're not from Texas... 652 00:19:58,120 --> 00:19:59,599 If you don't know this song, then 653 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:00,459 you're not from Texas. 654 00:20:00,460 --> 00:20:01,659 I need to hear y'all say it." And 655 00:20:01,660 --> 00:20:03,579 then the whole crowd will know 656 00:20:03,580 --> 00:20:04,859 the song word for word. 657 00:20:04,860 --> 00:20:07,259 And most people would probably say, 658 00:20:07,260 --> 00:20:08,479 if you asked them what the anthem 659 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,199 for Texas is, they would probably go 660 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:11,759 to zeroes most of the time. 661 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,619 But fortunately, it was knocked out 662 00:20:13,620 --> 00:20:14,629 of the first round. 663 00:20:14,630 --> 00:20:15,869 Okay, okay, and who's been voting 664 00:20:15,870 --> 00:20:16,870 on- 665 00:20:17,060 --> 00:20:18,660 Just anybody who visits the KU T. 666 00:20:18,661 --> 00:20:19,829 KUTX.org. 667 00:20:19,830 --> 00:20:21,169 It's available for you to vote at 668 00:20:21,170 --> 00:20:23,069 KUTx.org, so 669 00:20:23,070 --> 00:20:24,429 shout out to the fans for going and 670 00:20:24,430 --> 00:20:25,289 voting, man. 671 00:20:25,290 --> 00:20:26,789 There's some upsets right like yes, 672 00:20:26,790 --> 00:20:28,149 that's why you play the games were 673 00:20:28,150 --> 00:20:28,290 you to say? 674 00:20:28,291 --> 00:20:29,109 Were you gonna say something, Fishus? 675 00:20:29,110 --> 00:20:30,489 No, I was gonna say, I thought 676 00:20:30,490 --> 00:20:31,589 Riding Dirt by Comedian would go 677 00:20:31,590 --> 00:20:32,829 further, too. That was a huge song, 678 00:20:32,830 --> 00:20:33,830 but. 679 00:20:34,130 --> 00:20:35,129 Okay, well you guys already 680 00:20:35,130 --> 00:20:37,129 mentioned some big songs, so I'm 681 00:20:37,130 --> 00:20:38,949 kind of nervous to figure out what 682 00:20:38,950 --> 00:20:40,169 the Final Four are, where are we at 683 00:20:40,170 --> 00:20:40,819 in the competition. 684 00:20:40,820 --> 00:20:42,899 The final four are as 685 00:20:42,900 --> 00:20:44,959 stands Mike Jones still tipping 686 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,219 featuring Slim Thug and Paul Wall 687 00:20:47,220 --> 00:20:48,919 UGK with international players 688 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,899 anthem featuring outcasts 689 00:20:50,900 --> 00:20:52,799 DJ DMD 25 lighters featuring 690 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,559 a little Kiki and fat pat and 691 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:57,919 Look Kiki solo with 692 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:58,519 Southside 693 00:20:58,520 --> 00:20:59,299 Okay. Okay. 694 00:20:59,300 --> 00:21:00,339 And you said that people can vote 695 00:21:00,340 --> 00:21:02,319 over at kutx.org. 696 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:03,639 I was listening to your show on 697 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:04,599 Saturday and y'all were talking 698 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,359 about bootlegging albums, right? 699 00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:08,639 Like songs that you heard way, 700 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:10,199 way, way before on a bootleg version 701 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,479 than you heard on the official CD 702 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,779 version. So of these 16 Texas 703 00:21:13,780 --> 00:21:15,439 rap anthems, how many did you hear 704 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,479 on bootleg and how many you hear on 705 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,059 a CD that you purchased from a 706 00:21:19,060 --> 00:21:20,060 store. 707 00:21:21,060 --> 00:21:23,119 You know is it overwhelming on one 708 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:24,659 side to the other I see the list 709 00:21:24,660 --> 00:21:25,799 again But if I had to put a 710 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,439 percentage on it probably 90% of 711 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:28,289 those songs. I heard 712 00:21:28,290 --> 00:21:29,909 I was about to say the majority of 713 00:21:29,910 --> 00:21:32,049 those songs I probably heard like 714 00:21:32,050 --> 00:21:33,669 somebody downloading it from Lime 715 00:21:33,670 --> 00:21:34,809 War and putting it on a burnt CD 716 00:21:34,810 --> 00:21:36,829 first before officially 717 00:21:36,830 --> 00:21:37,029 hearing it. 718 00:21:37,030 --> 00:21:38,909 They spoon like Houston music really 719 00:21:38,910 --> 00:21:40,229 heavily down here, too. 720 00:21:40,230 --> 00:21:42,169 So I didn't get an actual real like 721 00:21:42,170 --> 00:21:43,439 switch out CD for years 722 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:44,899 I don't think I've ever had a real 723 00:21:44,900 --> 00:21:45,649 official Swisher house. 724 00:21:45,650 --> 00:21:47,349 I didn't know where to get them at. 725 00:21:47,350 --> 00:21:48,289 Every place I went to had the 726 00:21:48,290 --> 00:21:49,290 bootlegs. 727 00:21:50,460 --> 00:21:51,659 Okay, well that was part of what 728 00:21:51,660 --> 00:21:53,039 y'all talked about on Saturday. 729 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,479 You also talked a little bit about 730 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,139 Jay Cole's recent publicity tour 731 00:21:56,140 --> 00:21:57,979 that he's been going on. 732 00:21:57,980 --> 00:21:59,459 You can hear the breaks every 733 00:21:59,460 --> 00:22:01,579 Saturday from 10 to 1 a.m. 734 00:22:01,580 --> 00:22:03,059 On KUTX and wherever you get your 735 00:22:03,060 --> 00:22:04,279 podcasts. What are you all talking 736 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:05,459 about this weekend? 737 00:22:05,460 --> 00:22:07,119 We're talking about this Gucci Mane 738 00:22:07,120 --> 00:22:08,599 and Pooch Icedee altercation. 739 00:22:09,660 --> 00:22:11,499 And we also have an interview 740 00:22:11,500 --> 00:22:13,779 with Tiana Major-Nine, 741 00:22:13,780 --> 00:22:15,799 an R&B artist from London who has 742 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:16,999 worked with Babyface, been Grammy 743 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,119 nominated, and is trying 744 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:20,280 to build up her profile here in the 745 00:22:20,281 --> 00:22:21,959 States. Very cool, well 746 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:23,999 You know, it's not often that the 747 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,459 what happens on the brakes overlaps 748 00:22:25,460 --> 00:22:26,919 with what happens in the KUT 749 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,819 newsroom But somebody asked last 750 00:22:28,820 --> 00:22:30,559 weekend. Does anybody know who Gucci 751 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,579 Mane is? So like now I'm actually 752 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,719 Well, we'll have to bring you into 753 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,179 the conversation but check that out 754 00:22:38,180 --> 00:22:40,119 again Saturday nights from 10 to 755 00:22:40,120 --> 00:22:41,559 1 a.m And wherever you get the 756 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:43,419 podcast wherever you'd get 757 00:22:43,420 --> 00:22:44,999 your podcast. We've been chatting 758 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,639 with Confucius Jones and fresh night 759 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,019 They are the hosts of the brakes. 760 00:22:48,020 --> 00:22:49,179 Thanks guys. Thanks for being 761 00:22:49,180 --> 00:22:50,180 regulars. Thanks 762 00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:54,119 And thank you for spending the 763 00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:55,979 Thursday afternoon here with us 764 00:22:55,980 --> 00:22:57,179 on Austin Signal. 765 00:22:57,180 --> 00:22:58,419 I'm your host, Jerry Quijano. 766 00:22:58,420 --> 00:23:00,899 We will be back with you tomorrow. 767 00:23:00,900 --> 00:23:02,300 Have a great day. Be safe out there.