1 00:00:09,140 --> 00:00:10,979 Hemp flour and other smokable 2 00:00:10,980 --> 00:00:12,339 forms of cannabis are no longer 3 00:00:12,340 --> 00:00:14,339 allowed to be sold in Texas. 4 00:00:14,340 --> 00:00:15,959 What hasn't changed, however, is 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,679 Texas law that says it's legal to 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:19,679 possess those kinds of products. 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,459 So can Texans procure these 8 00:00:21,460 --> 00:00:23,419 smokables from other states? 9 00:00:23,420 --> 00:00:24,659 It's a complicated answer, we're 10 00:00:24,660 --> 00:00:26,599 going to have more about that. 11 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:28,559 And UT Austin's Mexican American and 12 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:30,539 Latina Latino studies will soon be 13 00:00:30,540 --> 00:00:32,758 consolidated into a new department. 14 00:00:32,759 --> 00:00:34,019 Latino studies scholars and 15 00:00:34,020 --> 00:00:35,419 researchers are protesting the 16 00:00:35,420 --> 00:00:36,979 changes while planning for the 17 00:00:36,980 --> 00:00:37,849 future. 18 00:00:37,850 --> 00:00:39,749 The impacts of consolidation at UT 19 00:00:39,750 --> 00:00:42,389 Austin, and in Texas public schools, 20 00:00:42,390 --> 00:00:43,949 coming up on today's show. 21 00:00:43,950 --> 00:00:45,949 The Austin Signal is a production of 22 00:00:45,950 --> 00:00:48,089 KUT News, hosted by Jerry 23 00:00:48,090 --> 00:00:49,069 Quijano. 24 00:00:49,070 --> 00:00:50,469 Plus, a neighborhood park in West 25 00:00:50,470 --> 00:00:52,189 Austin that was once segregated is 26 00:00:52,190 --> 00:00:54,089 now named for a black Austinite 27 00:00:54,090 --> 00:00:56,049 and Austin High legend. 28 00:00:56,050 --> 00:00:58,389 Come hear his story up next, 29 00:00:58,390 --> 00:00:59,670 right here on Austin Signal. 30 00:01:08,370 --> 00:01:09,409 Howdy out there! 31 00:01:09,410 --> 00:01:11,349 You are tuned in to Austin 32 00:01:11,350 --> 00:01:12,729 Signal. Thanks for spending part of 33 00:01:12,730 --> 00:01:14,169 your day here with us. 34 00:01:14,170 --> 00:01:16,169 I'm your host, Jerry Kehannel. 35 00:01:16,170 --> 00:01:18,249 It is Wednesday, it is the first 36 00:01:18,250 --> 00:01:19,529 day of April. 37 00:01:19,530 --> 00:01:20,809 Hopefully you haven't been fooled 38 00:01:20,810 --> 00:01:21,869 too bad. 39 00:01:21,870 --> 00:01:23,369 We're only bringing you the truth 40 00:01:23,370 --> 00:01:25,209 right here on Austin Signal, 41 00:01:25,210 --> 00:01:27,029 so thanks for being here with 42 00:01:27,030 --> 00:01:27,929 today. 43 00:01:27,930 --> 00:01:29,250 Let's get into the show. 44 00:01:30,270 --> 00:01:32,069 Hemp flour, extracts, and other 45 00:01:32,070 --> 00:01:35,889 smokable forms of 46 00:01:35,890 --> 00:01:36,689 access. 47 00:01:36,690 --> 00:01:38,309 But the Texas law that makes it 48 00:01:38,310 --> 00:01:40,449 illegal to possess smokable 49 00:01:40,450 --> 00:01:41,349 hemp products? 50 00:01:41,350 --> 00:01:43,149 Well, that hasn't changed. 51 00:01:43,150 --> 00:01:45,029 So that leaves open a big question 52 00:01:45,030 --> 00:01:46,989 for Texas consumers. 53 00:01:46,990 --> 00:01:48,809 If state stores cannot sell these 54 00:01:48,810 --> 00:01:50,889 products anymore, can Texans still 55 00:01:50,890 --> 00:01:52,889 order them online from out of 56 00:01:52,890 --> 00:01:53,769 state? 57 00:01:53,770 --> 00:01:55,749 As we hear from KUT's Nathan 58 00:01:55,750 --> 00:01:57,889 Bernier, that answer is 59 00:01:57,890 --> 00:01:59,169 a little bit complicated. 60 00:02:01,670 --> 00:02:03,369 Even though Texas is banning 61 00:02:03,370 --> 00:02:05,409 smokable hemp products, it does not 62 00:02:05,410 --> 00:02:07,449 mean bongs across the state are 63 00:02:07,450 --> 00:02:08,749 going silent. 64 00:02:08,750 --> 00:02:10,249 The new regulations only affect 65 00:02:10,250 --> 00:02:12,229 sales and manufacturing. 66 00:02:12,230 --> 00:02:13,529 For those who want to order out of 67 00:02:13,530 --> 00:02:15,589 state, it's a bit confusing. 68 00:02:15,590 --> 00:02:18,169 State regulators say, no you can't. 69 00:02:18,170 --> 00:02:20,709 Cannabis attorneys say, yes you can, 70 00:02:20,710 --> 00:02:22,299 but acknowledge it's gray area. 71 00:02:22,300 --> 00:02:24,699 These rules are concerning 72 00:02:24,700 --> 00:02:26,979 licensing, not 73 00:02:26,980 --> 00:02:28,129 criminal liability. 74 00:02:28,130 --> 00:02:30,149 Susan Hayes is a lobbyist and 75 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:32,059 lawyer specializing in cannabis law. 76 00:02:32,060 --> 00:02:33,979 So whether anyone can be criminally 77 00:02:33,980 --> 00:02:36,079 prosecuted for 78 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,039 buying products from out of state 79 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,879 is still gonna be 80 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,299 doubtful and difficult. 81 00:02:42,300 --> 00:02:44,219 And I say difficult both for 82 00:02:44,220 --> 00:02:45,899 legal reasons and also practical 83 00:02:45,900 --> 00:02:47,039 reasons. 84 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:48,999 Most prosecutors, many 85 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,859 cops, certainly the 86 00:02:50,860 --> 00:02:52,099 majority of the people living in 87 00:02:52,100 --> 00:02:54,039 Texas are over this 88 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,039 idea of criminalizing a 89 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:56,509 plant. 90 00:02:56,510 --> 00:02:57,649 But the Department of State Health 91 00:02:57,650 --> 00:02:59,029 Services says the new rules 92 00:02:59,030 --> 00:03:00,569 governing sales and manufacturing 93 00:03:00,570 --> 00:03:02,589 also apply to any out-of-state 94 00:03:02,590 --> 00:03:04,569 business selling hemp products into 95 00:03:04,570 --> 00:03:05,569 Texas. 96 00:03:05,570 --> 00:03:07,569 In a statement to KUT News, DSHS 97 00:03:07,570 --> 00:03:09,469 spokesperson Lara Anton said, 98 00:03:09,470 --> 00:03:11,309 quote, There is no carve-out for 99 00:03:11,310 --> 00:03:12,909 mail order, end quote. 100 00:03:12,910 --> 00:03:14,349 In other words, not only are out- 101 00:03:14,350 --> 00:03:16,089 of-state businesses expected to stop 102 00:03:16,090 --> 00:03:17,949 sales of smokable hemp flour into 103 00:03:17,950 --> 00:03:19,789 Texas, but they're also supposed 104 00:03:19,790 --> 00:03:21,589 to start paying the new fees imposed 105 00:03:21,590 --> 00:03:22,719 on hemp businesses. 106 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,199 For retailers, that's $5,000 107 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,239 per location per year. 108 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,559 Attorneys working for the Texas 109 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,359 cannabis industry say enforcing that 110 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,239 across state lines is going to 111 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:33,299 be hard. 112 00:03:33,300 --> 00:03:34,999 Andrea Steele is with The Banks Law 113 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:35,899 Firm in Houston. 114 00:03:35,900 --> 00:03:37,319 Had to think about the feasibility 115 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:39,359 and practicality of enforcement and 116 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:40,759 the low-hanging fruit is going to be 117 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:41,799 the enforcement of the people that 118 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,319 they can touch right away. 119 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:44,219 And so it's going to be more 120 00:03:44,220 --> 00:03:46,379 difficult to locate and 121 00:03:46,380 --> 00:03:48,519 get jurisdiction over an 122 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,219 out-of-state company who's shipping 123 00:03:50,220 --> 00:03:51,779 through interstate commerce, which 124 00:03:51,780 --> 00:03:53,699 is expressly protected in 125 00:03:53,700 --> 00:03:54,740 the 2018 farm bill. 126 00:03:56,820 --> 00:03:59,049 Is there life for me? 127 00:03:59,050 --> 00:04:00,509 That was from the Emmys. 128 00:04:02,010 --> 00:04:03,589 I sang Green Acres. 129 00:04:03,590 --> 00:04:05,389 President Trump signed the 2018 Farm 130 00:04:05,390 --> 00:04:07,029 Bill into law during a big ceremony 131 00:04:07,030 --> 00:04:07,889 at the White House. 132 00:04:07,890 --> 00:04:09,809 It was a 133 00:04:09,810 --> 00:04:11,789 bipartisan success, 134 00:04:11,790 --> 00:04:13,049 something you don't hear too much 135 00:04:13,050 --> 00:04:14,909 about. The 2018 Farm bill 136 00:04:14,910 --> 00:04:17,028 legalized hemp nationwide. 137 00:04:17,029 --> 00:04:18,669 It also prohibits states from 138 00:04:18,670 --> 00:04:20,208 interfering with the transportation 139 00:04:20,209 --> 00:04:22,369 of hemp across state lines. 140 00:04:22,370 --> 00:04:24,249 Texas adopted a very similar law in 141 00:04:24,250 --> 00:04:25,348 2019. 142 00:04:25,349 --> 00:04:27,009 Now, hemp, by the way, is really 143 00:04:27,010 --> 00:04:28,309 just a legal term. 144 00:04:28,310 --> 00:04:30,449 It's used to describe cannabis that 145 00:04:30,450 --> 00:04:32,449 does not have a lot of Delta 9 146 00:04:32,450 --> 00:04:34,389 THC, which is the main ingredient in 147 00:04:34,390 --> 00:04:36,169 weed that gets people high. 148 00:04:36,170 --> 00:04:38,589 Less than 0.3% 149 00:04:38,590 --> 00:04:40,509 Delta 9 by dry weight, 150 00:04:40,510 --> 00:04:42,329 that's legal hemp. 151 00:04:42,330 --> 00:04:44,529 More than 0,3% 152 00:04:44,530 --> 00:04:46,549 delta 9 by dried weight, 153 00:04:46,550 --> 00:04:48,389 that's illegal marijuana. 154 00:04:48,390 --> 00:04:49,909 But cannabis has dozens of 155 00:04:49,910 --> 00:04:51,609 psychoactive compounds, not just 156 00:04:51,610 --> 00:04:52,689 Delta 9. 157 00:04:52,690 --> 00:04:55,359 There's also something called THCA. 158 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,459 And THCA converts 159 00:04:57,460 --> 00:04:59,999 to delta-9 when heated or smoked, 160 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,299 and that's really where most delta- 161 00:05:01,300 --> 00:05:03,099 9 comes from, even in states where 162 00:05:03,100 --> 00:05:04,699 marijuana is legal. 163 00:05:04,700 --> 00:05:06,419 So the new Texas rules basically 164 00:05:06,420 --> 00:05:08,379 treat THCA as delta- 165 00:05:08,380 --> 00:05:10,299 9 for the purposes of selling 166 00:05:10,300 --> 00:05:12,079 and making hemp products. 167 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,079 That's why flour and concentrates 168 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:15,939 are banned, and it's why edibles 169 00:05:15,940 --> 00:05:17,719 remain legal to sell. 170 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,319 But this is where it gets even more 171 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,259 confusing. 172 00:05:20,260 --> 00:05:22,179 Those are just regulations, not 173 00:05:22,180 --> 00:05:23,939 laws. And they only apply to 174 00:05:23,940 --> 00:05:25,379 licensing and registration. 175 00:05:25,380 --> 00:05:27,199 The Texas law defining what hemp 176 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,499 is has not changed. 177 00:05:29,500 --> 00:05:31,219 So possessing smokeable hemp remains 178 00:05:31,220 --> 00:05:32,059 legal. 179 00:05:32,060 --> 00:05:33,159 And that's why police departments 180 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:34,959 like Austin's have not changed how 181 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,699 they approach enforcement. 182 00:05:36,700 --> 00:05:38,499 Lieutenant Patrick Eastlick oversees 183 00:05:38,500 --> 00:05:40,099 APD's Tactical Intelligence 184 00:05:40,100 --> 00:05:40,589 Division. 185 00:05:40,590 --> 00:05:42,529 No one, an officer or 186 00:05:42,530 --> 00:05:44,509 even anyone highly trained can 187 00:05:44,510 --> 00:05:47,269 tell the difference between him and 188 00:05:47,270 --> 00:05:48,209 marijuana. 189 00:05:48,210 --> 00:05:49,529 So just by looking at it, you're not 190 00:05:49,530 --> 00:05:51,979 going to be able to determine that. 191 00:05:51,980 --> 00:05:53,519 They're the same plant. 192 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,139 And Austin doesn't have expensive 193 00:05:55,140 --> 00:05:56,999 testing equipment to measure Delta-9 194 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,899 levels and doesn't even prioritize 195 00:05:58,900 --> 00:06:00,939 marijuana arrests anyway. 196 00:06:00,940 --> 00:06:02,359 Eastlick and his colleagues are too 197 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:03,959 busy tracking down fentanyl and 198 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,039 methamphetamine. 199 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,619 So if Austin police catch someone 200 00:06:06,620 --> 00:06:08,719 with cannabis flower or extract, 201 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:10,829 they ask to see the packaging. 202 00:06:10,830 --> 00:06:12,669 Usually, it will say that it has 203 00:06:12,670 --> 00:06:14,609 less than 0.3% THC 204 00:06:14,610 --> 00:06:16,449 concentration, so it's the labeling 205 00:06:16,450 --> 00:06:18,269 is the easiest way for 206 00:06:18,270 --> 00:06:19,369 officers to be able to distinguish 207 00:06:19,370 --> 00:06:20,509 between the two. 208 00:06:20,510 --> 00:06:22,569 So it's why it's very important for 209 00:06:22,570 --> 00:06:24,529 folks who have legal 210 00:06:24,530 --> 00:06:26,449 hemp to have the packaging with 211 00:06:26,450 --> 00:06:28,259 them when they're out and about. 212 00:06:28,260 --> 00:06:29,759 If people don't have the packaging, 213 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,739 whether it's hemp or marijuana, 214 00:06:31,740 --> 00:06:33,339 the cannabis will be confiscated and 215 00:06:33,340 --> 00:06:34,340 destroyed. 216 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:37,379 The Austin cannabis shop ATX 217 00:06:37,380 --> 00:06:39,099 Organics is one of the few hemp 218 00:06:39,100 --> 00:06:41,059 retailers in Texas that grows 219 00:06:41,060 --> 00:06:43,099 their own plants and makes their own 220 00:06:43,100 --> 00:06:44,099 products. 221 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:46,299 Smokable hemp accounted for about 75 222 00:06:46,300 --> 00:06:47,959 percent of the business, according 223 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,039 to Brandon who owns ATX 224 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:50,579 Organics. 225 00:06:50,580 --> 00:06:52,639 75% of our 226 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:54,459 business is going to be 227 00:06:54,460 --> 00:06:56,019 ordered from out of state. 228 00:06:56,020 --> 00:06:57,999 Taxpayer money to money 229 00:06:58,000 --> 00:06:59,299 that we've used to grow this 230 00:06:59,300 --> 00:07:01,059 industry is just going to funneled 231 00:07:01,060 --> 00:07:02,979 into other states, which is 232 00:07:02,980 --> 00:07:04,159 just ridiculous. 233 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,039 And then you're killing jobs, 234 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,639 you're destroying industries. 235 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:09,969 It's a lot of damage. 236 00:07:09,970 --> 00:07:11,349 So the Texas hemp industry is 237 00:07:11,350 --> 00:07:12,749 planning to fight these regulations 238 00:07:12,750 --> 00:07:14,649 in court, but had to wait until the 239 00:07:14,650 --> 00:07:16,789 rules took effect to file suit. 240 00:07:16,790 --> 00:07:18,349 The Texas Hemp Business Council 241 00:07:18,350 --> 00:07:19,529 plans to seek an immediate 242 00:07:19,530 --> 00:07:21,529 court-ordered pause on the rules, 243 00:07:21,530 --> 00:07:23,129 and that suit is expected in the 244 00:07:23,130 --> 00:07:24,249 coming days. 245 00:07:24,250 --> 00:07:25,610 I'm Nathan Bernier in Austin. 246 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,439 Education in Texas at the 247 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,519 collegiate and K-12 level 248 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,499 is rearranging, rethinking, 249 00:07:42,500 --> 00:07:43,679 and consolidating what students 250 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,099 learn from social and ethnic 251 00:07:45,100 --> 00:07:46,019 studies. 252 00:07:46,020 --> 00:07:47,459 UT Austin, for example, is 253 00:07:47,460 --> 00:07:48,739 consolidating their ethnic and 254 00:07:48,740 --> 00:07:50,659 gender studies department, while the 255 00:07:50,660 --> 00:07:52,199 Texas State Board of Education is 256 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:53,599 revising its social studies 257 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:54,859 curriculum. 258 00:07:54,860 --> 00:07:56,399 For more about what's changing, 259 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:57,199 we're talking with Greta 260 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,619 Diaz-Gonzalez-Vasquez. 261 00:07:58,620 --> 00:08:00,519 She is KUT's education reporter. 262 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:01,779 Greta, thanks for being back on the 263 00:08:01,780 --> 00:08:02,369 show with us. 264 00:08:02,370 --> 00:08:03,769 Hey Jerry, happy to be here. 265 00:08:03,770 --> 00:08:05,729 So let's start first with what's 266 00:08:05,730 --> 00:08:07,049 happening here at UT Austin. 267 00:08:07,050 --> 00:08:08,369 Can you remind us what has been 268 00:08:08,370 --> 00:08:10,229 going on with the UT ethnic studies 269 00:08:10,230 --> 00:08:11,079 departments? 270 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,799 Yeah. So back in February, UT 271 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,479 announced the consolidation of seven 272 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,379 departments into two. 273 00:08:16,380 --> 00:08:17,859 And one of those departments is the 274 00:08:17,860 --> 00:08:19,819 Mexican American and Latina Latino 275 00:08:19,820 --> 00:08:21,379 studies known as mouse. 276 00:08:21,380 --> 00:08:22,279 That's how I'm going to talk about 277 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:22,440 it. Mouse. 278 00:08:22,441 --> 00:08:23,019 Okay, mouse. 279 00:08:23,020 --> 00:08:25,379 And it will be consolidated with 280 00:08:25,380 --> 00:08:27,319 other three departments including 281 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,619 African and African Diaspora 282 00:08:29,620 --> 00:08:31,279 Studies, American Studies, and 283 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:32,779 Women's Gender and Sexuality 284 00:08:32,780 --> 00:08:34,619 Studies, and they will become the 285 00:08:34,620 --> 00:08:36,239 Department of Social and Cultural 286 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,259 Analysis. 287 00:08:37,260 --> 00:08:38,918 And so when this was announced back 288 00:08:38,919 --> 00:08:40,058 in February, U.T. 289 00:08:40,059 --> 00:08:41,759 President Jim Davis also said the 290 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,339 curriculum would be reviewed to 291 00:08:43,340 --> 00:08:45,259 determine what majors, minors, and 292 00:08:45,260 --> 00:08:47,079 courses would be offered at the 293 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:47,879 new departments. 294 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:49,079 Okay, and you have been following 295 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:50,159 this story all along. 296 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:51,339 You can find more from Gretta's 297 00:08:51,340 --> 00:08:53,739 reporting at KUT.org. 298 00:08:53,740 --> 00:08:55,719 Your most recent story was about a 299 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:57,259 conference that took place here in 300 00:08:57,260 --> 00:08:58,279 Austin. 301 00:08:58,280 --> 00:08:59,399 And along with that conference, 302 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,179 there was also a protest held on 303 00:09:01,180 --> 00:09:02,999 campus. What was that protest about? 304 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:04,519 Yeah, so I want to talk about the 305 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:06,399 conference first because yeah, 306 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,499 last week UT hosted the bi-annual 307 00:09:08,500 --> 00:09:10,559 national Latina Latinx Latino 308 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:12,779 Studies Association meeting and 309 00:09:12,780 --> 00:09:14,599 organizers said that more than 600 310 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,619 academics registered to 311 00:09:16,620 --> 00:09:17,939 come to the conference making it one 312 00:09:17,940 --> 00:09:19,119 of the biggest Latino studies 313 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:20,789 conferences in the country. 314 00:09:20,790 --> 00:09:21,059 Okay. 315 00:09:21,060 --> 00:09:22,799 And so during that conference, yes, 316 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,279 there was a protest, so researchers 317 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:27,979 from all over the country protested 318 00:09:27,980 --> 00:09:29,739 the elimination of Miles. 319 00:09:29,740 --> 00:09:31,159 And the president of the 320 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,179 association, David Vasquez, who's 321 00:09:33,180 --> 00:09:35,519 a professor at American University 322 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,379 in Washington, DC, told me 323 00:09:37,380 --> 00:09:38,739 that it was important for them to 324 00:09:38,740 --> 00:09:41,699 hold a meeting at UT as 325 00:09:41,700 --> 00:09:43,759 part of to show solidarity 326 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,819 with the UT community, but also 327 00:09:45,820 --> 00:09:47,779 to show the importance of 328 00:09:47,780 --> 00:09:50,168 the program at UT. 329 00:09:50,169 --> 00:09:52,409 And let me give you context. 330 00:09:52,410 --> 00:09:54,189 So at UT, Latino studies started in 331 00:09:54,190 --> 00:09:56,029 the 70s, and it started because 332 00:09:56,030 --> 00:09:57,709 of community pressure. 333 00:09:57,710 --> 00:09:58,829 And so it started with the Center of 334 00:09:58,830 --> 00:10:00,349 Mexican-American Studies. 335 00:10:00,350 --> 00:10:02,149 And since then, it has been home to 336 00:10:02,150 --> 00:10:03,869 some of the best Chicano, Chicana, 337 00:10:03,870 --> 00:10:05,789 and Latino scholars 338 00:10:05,790 --> 00:10:07,369 in the world, in the country, but in 339 00:10:07,370 --> 00:10:09,149 the word. And it became a department 340 00:10:09,150 --> 00:10:10,150 in 2014, 341 00:10:11,450 --> 00:10:13,369 and students have, PhD students 342 00:10:13,370 --> 00:10:14,589 I have talked to have noted that 343 00:10:14,590 --> 00:10:16,829 it's the only department in Texas. 344 00:10:16,830 --> 00:10:18,349 One of the few in the country to 345 00:10:18,350 --> 00:10:20,789 offer a PhD in Latino studies. 346 00:10:20,790 --> 00:10:22,949 So for them during this protest it 347 00:10:22,950 --> 00:10:25,109 was important to say this is 348 00:10:25,110 --> 00:10:27,009 a very important department 349 00:10:27,010 --> 00:10:28,949 not only in Texas but in the 350 00:10:28,950 --> 00:10:29,828 country. 351 00:10:29,829 --> 00:10:31,849 Well, what is the future 352 00:10:31,850 --> 00:10:33,769 of that department look like? 353 00:10:33,770 --> 00:10:35,389 The consolidation was announced back 354 00:10:35,390 --> 00:10:37,489 in February and things have been 355 00:10:37,490 --> 00:10:39,269 happening slowly. 356 00:10:39,270 --> 00:10:40,449 What does the future look like for 357 00:10:40,450 --> 00:10:41,369 that department? 358 00:10:41,370 --> 00:10:42,889 So we know that it will be 359 00:10:42,890 --> 00:10:44,609 eliminated, but there's still a lot 360 00:10:44,610 --> 00:10:46,209 that we don't know. 361 00:10:46,210 --> 00:10:47,849 When the announcement was made, UT 362 00:10:47,850 --> 00:10:49,189 officials said current students 363 00:10:49,190 --> 00:10:50,889 would be able to graduate from the 364 00:10:50,890 --> 00:10:52,989 programs that they're involved in. 365 00:10:52,990 --> 00:10:54,909 But as I said, I've talked to PhD 366 00:10:54,910 --> 00:10:56,869 students and they worry that that 367 00:10:56,870 --> 00:10:58,389 might not be the case. 368 00:10:58,390 --> 00:10:59,869 They have tried talking with UT 369 00:10:59,870 --> 00:11:01,609 official, but have not succeeded to 370 00:11:01,610 --> 00:11:03,009 have in-person meetings. 371 00:11:03,010 --> 00:11:04,709 And they worry about their research, 372 00:11:04,710 --> 00:11:07,449 research funds, and also of course, 373 00:11:07,450 --> 00:11:08,329 undergraduate students in which 374 00:11:08,330 --> 00:11:10,189 classes they'll be able to teach. 375 00:11:10,190 --> 00:11:11,909 And we've also heard from some 376 00:11:11,910 --> 00:11:13,889 faculty, including Karma Chavez, 377 00:11:13,890 --> 00:11:15,909 who teaches at Miles, that told us 378 00:11:15,910 --> 00:11:17,349 that faculty have been asked to 379 00:11:17,350 --> 00:11:19,149 review current majors and propose 380 00:11:19,150 --> 00:11:21,149 what majors will be offered in 381 00:11:21,150 --> 00:11:22,109 the future. 382 00:11:22,110 --> 00:11:23,709 And we're currently looking into 383 00:11:23,710 --> 00:11:25,809 this, and we hope to know more 384 00:11:25,810 --> 00:11:27,109 about it soon. 385 00:11:27,110 --> 00:11:28,469 Okay, well we will bring you that 386 00:11:28,470 --> 00:11:29,949 reporting here on Austin Signal 387 00:11:29,950 --> 00:11:31,129 whenever we have it. 388 00:11:31,130 --> 00:11:32,429 Again, you can read the latest from 389 00:11:32,430 --> 00:11:34,269 Greta over at KUT.org, 390 00:11:34,270 --> 00:11:35,609 and we're going to have a link in 391 00:11:35,610 --> 00:11:37,389 today's podcast, Show Notes. 392 00:11:37,390 --> 00:11:38,569 I want to ask you now about the 393 00:11:38,570 --> 00:11:40,089 Texas State Board of Education. 394 00:11:40,090 --> 00:11:41,429 What's going on there with their 395 00:11:41,430 --> 00:11:43,409 social studies curriculum, 396 00:11:43,410 --> 00:11:44,109 excuse me? 397 00:11:44,110 --> 00:11:45,329 Yeah, so the State Board of 398 00:11:45,330 --> 00:11:47,369 Education is reviewing the K-12 399 00:11:47,370 --> 00:11:49,029 Social Studies Curriculum, and it's 400 00:11:49,030 --> 00:11:50,909 also known as the Texas Essential 401 00:11:50,910 --> 00:11:52,469 Knowledge and Skills. 402 00:11:52,470 --> 00:11:53,929 So sometimes you hear about people 403 00:11:53,930 --> 00:11:55,809 talking about TEKS, that's what they 404 00:11:55,810 --> 00:11:56,869 mean, the curriculum. 405 00:11:56,870 --> 00:11:58,189 Yeah, this is something that happens 406 00:11:58,190 --> 00:11:59,190 every few years. 407 00:12:00,230 --> 00:12:01,709 State education officials review 408 00:12:01,710 --> 00:12:02,929 standards, not only for social 409 00:12:02,930 --> 00:12:04,369 studies, but also for math, for 410 00:12:04,370 --> 00:12:06,249 English, for other things. 411 00:12:06,250 --> 00:12:08,169 And the Board of education tasks 412 00:12:08,170 --> 00:12:10,229 nine appointed content advisors 413 00:12:10,230 --> 00:12:12,069 to guide the curriculum 414 00:12:12,070 --> 00:12:14,159 and also two workgroups. 415 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:16,159 Group A and work group 416 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:18,539 B that will give feedback on 417 00:12:18,540 --> 00:12:19,839 the changes. 418 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,299 And I have talked to some content 419 00:12:21,300 --> 00:12:23,059 advisors and some members of the 420 00:12:23,060 --> 00:12:24,759 work groups who have raised concerns 421 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,879 about the process and how changes 422 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,349 are said to happen this time. 423 00:12:28,350 --> 00:12:29,869 Yeah, whatever they had to say. 424 00:12:29,870 --> 00:12:31,749 Yeah, so the biggest change that is 425 00:12:31,750 --> 00:12:33,669 happening is the framework. 426 00:12:33,670 --> 00:12:34,949 Now students will learn things 427 00:12:34,950 --> 00:12:35,909 chronologically. 428 00:12:35,910 --> 00:12:37,549 So that means kinder through second 429 00:12:37,550 --> 00:12:39,409 grade, they will learn about 430 00:12:39,410 --> 00:12:41,269 what they called American Indians 431 00:12:41,270 --> 00:12:42,209 because there are certain words 432 00:12:42,210 --> 00:12:43,869 they're not using, like indigenous. 433 00:12:43,870 --> 00:12:45,749 One of the content advisors 434 00:12:45,750 --> 00:12:47,089 told me that they're are not allowed 435 00:12:47,090 --> 00:12:48,629 to use indigenous or Native 436 00:12:48,630 --> 00:12:49,529 American. 437 00:12:49,530 --> 00:12:51,209 And they're also going to learn 438 00:12:51,210 --> 00:12:53,309 about the exploration of America and 439 00:12:53,310 --> 00:12:54,909 Texas. And then third to eighth 440 00:12:54,910 --> 00:12:56,789 grade, once again, Chronologically, 441 00:12:56,790 --> 00:12:58,269 we'll learn about the U.S. 442 00:12:58,270 --> 00:12:59,519 And Texas. 443 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:01,339 Starting with the birth of Western 444 00:13:01,340 --> 00:13:02,339 civilization. 445 00:13:02,340 --> 00:13:04,299 Okay, okay, so what 446 00:13:04,300 --> 00:13:05,379 happens next? 447 00:13:05,380 --> 00:13:07,239 Is that a done deal or is that 448 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:08,819 curriculum still being worked on? 449 00:13:08,820 --> 00:13:09,579 What happens next. 450 00:13:09,580 --> 00:13:10,819 They're still working on the 451 00:13:10,820 --> 00:13:11,879 curriculum. 452 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:13,559 They're taking feedback from people. 453 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:15,439 People have worried that it's too 454 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:16,379 heavy, that there's a lot of 455 00:13:16,380 --> 00:13:18,559 content, that it takes us focus, 456 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:20,199 that the chronological order doesn't 457 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:21,879 really work out in education because 458 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:23,259 they might be too abstract for 459 00:13:23,260 --> 00:13:24,099 little kids. 460 00:13:24,100 --> 00:13:26,119 But the board is set to 461 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,959 do a first reading on April 462 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,639 6th, so next Tuesday. 463 00:13:30,860 --> 00:13:32,839 And they also have to vote on 464 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,999 it no later than 465 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:36,799 June. Sorry, that's next Monday. 466 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:37,940 April 6 is a Monday. 467 00:13:39,110 --> 00:13:40,489 Okay, okay, yeah, it's just today's 468 00:13:40,490 --> 00:13:41,529 April 1st. 469 00:13:41,530 --> 00:13:42,729 Lots going on. 470 00:13:42,730 --> 00:13:44,789 Okay, so April 6th is the Monday, 471 00:13:44,790 --> 00:13:46,089 and then, can you repeat that last 472 00:13:46,090 --> 00:13:46,919 part about June? 473 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,259 Yeah. And they have to vote on it 474 00:13:48,260 --> 00:13:49,459 now later than June. 475 00:13:49,460 --> 00:13:51,859 So we still have a long way to go. 476 00:13:51,860 --> 00:13:53,399 And I must also say whatever they 477 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,219 approve won't go into effect until 478 00:13:55,220 --> 00:13:56,019 2030. 479 00:13:56,020 --> 00:13:57,299 It's not something immediate because 480 00:13:57,300 --> 00:13:59,199 they also have to create 481 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,519 textbooks and all these changes. 482 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:02,629 So it's going to take a little bit. 483 00:14:02,630 --> 00:14:04,469 Okay, well, we will bring you 484 00:14:04,470 --> 00:14:06,029 those changes whenever we know more 485 00:14:06,030 --> 00:14:07,129 about them. 486 00:14:07,130 --> 00:14:08,589 And we have been speaking with Greta 487 00:14:08,590 --> 00:14:09,789 Diaz-Gonzalez-Vasquez. 488 00:14:09,790 --> 00:14:11,949 She is KUT's education reporter. 489 00:14:11,950 --> 00:14:13,709 We're gonna have more about her 490 00:14:13,710 --> 00:14:15,189 reporting in today's podcast, Show 491 00:14:15,190 --> 00:14:17,329 Notes, in at kut.org 492 00:14:17,330 --> 00:14:18,269 slash signal. 493 00:14:18,270 --> 00:14:18,969 Thank you, Greta. 494 00:14:18,970 --> 00:14:19,779 Thank you, Jerry. 495 00:14:19,780 --> 00:14:21,419 And thank you out there for tuning 496 00:14:21,420 --> 00:14:23,279 in to Austin Signal. 497 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,100 We will be back after a break. 498 00:14:30,930 --> 00:14:32,849 This is Austin Signal, welcome 499 00:14:32,850 --> 00:14:33,729 back. 500 00:14:33,730 --> 00:14:35,849 The Sir Douglas Quintet got its 501 00:14:35,850 --> 00:14:37,969 start down I-35 in San Antonio, 502 00:14:37,970 --> 00:14:39,869 but the band and its characters have 503 00:14:39,870 --> 00:14:41,689 become inextricably linked to the 504 00:14:41,690 --> 00:14:43,509 Austin of yesteryear, 505 00:14:43,510 --> 00:14:45,529 when maybe things really were cooler 506 00:14:45,530 --> 00:14:46,949 and weirder. 507 00:14:46,950 --> 00:14:48,389 And though there's no argument that 508 00:14:48,390 --> 00:14:49,709 the quintet's sound is 509 00:14:49,710 --> 00:14:51,569 quintessentially Texan, 510 00:14:51,570 --> 00:14:53,409 they had to blend in to the British 511 00:14:53,410 --> 00:14:55,689 Invasion to grab some attention. 512 00:14:55,690 --> 00:14:57,569 Here's Jason Medlard from 513 00:14:57,570 --> 00:14:59,519 the Center for Texas Music History. 514 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:00,919 At Texas State University. 515 00:15:08,110 --> 00:15:10,109 This weekend in Texas music history, 516 00:15:10,110 --> 00:15:11,469 San Antonio rockers joined the 517 00:15:11,470 --> 00:15:14,069 British Invasion in disguise. 518 00:15:14,070 --> 00:15:15,929 On April 2nd, 1965, the Sir 519 00:15:15,930 --> 00:15:17,769 Douglas quintet single, She's About 520 00:15:17,770 --> 00:15:19,149 a Mover, entered the billboard 521 00:15:19,150 --> 00:15:20,329 charts. 522 00:15:20,330 --> 00:15:21,589 Doug Sam led the quintet and the 523 00:15:21,590 --> 00:15:23,069 young man was no stranger to the 524 00:15:23,070 --> 00:15:24,889 spotlight. He'd been a steel guitar 525 00:15:24,890 --> 00:15:26,329 prodigy, learning the instrument at 526 00:15:26,330 --> 00:15:27,589 five, hanging out with Hank 527 00:15:27,590 --> 00:15:29,029 Williams, and earning an invitation 528 00:15:29,030 --> 00:15:30,299 to the Grand Ole Opry. 529 00:15:30,300 --> 00:15:31,759 He'd pivoted to garage rock after 530 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:33,199 turning the invite down and was 531 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,239 joined in the 1965 quintet by 532 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:37,039 Augie Myers on Vox Organ, Jack 533 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:38,819 Barber, Frank Marin, and Johnny 534 00:15:38,820 --> 00:15:39,719 Perez. 535 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,139 The group made music in the mold of 536 00:15:41,140 --> 00:15:42,699 San Antonio's Chicano soul and 537 00:15:42,700 --> 00:15:44,739 westside sound, but Orquesta Tejana 538 00:15:44,740 --> 00:15:46,199 met rhythm and blues. 539 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:47,439 You can hear it in the track, the 540 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,159 way that Augie's organ and Barber's 541 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,679 bass line play off one another just 542 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,059 as an accordion of Bajos Sexto would 543 00:15:52,060 --> 00:15:53,619 in conjunto, all the while 544 00:15:53,620 --> 00:15:55,539 channeling Ray Charles' What I'd Say 545 00:15:55,540 --> 00:15:57,120 and the coasters' hit, Searchin'. 546 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,439 Huey Moe, who produced the track, 547 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:09,599 didn't give it that San Antonio 548 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:10,659 frame, though. 549 00:16:10,660 --> 00:16:11,939 Moe had seen his regional record 550 00:16:11,940 --> 00:16:13,219 business suffer in the face of the 551 00:16:13,220 --> 00:16:14,939 British invasion, and so, in his 552 00:16:14,940 --> 00:16:16,439 words, "'I took a little Philips 553 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:17,999 phonograph, bought all the Beatles' 554 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,999 LPs, went to a motel with a case of 555 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:21,359 Thunderbird wine and sat down to 556 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:22,559 figure out what these cats were 557 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,379 into. After two days of drinking 558 00:16:24,380 --> 00:16:25,619 and listening, I got it. 559 00:16:25,620 --> 00:16:27,339 They were playing the beat on the 560 00:16:27,340 --> 00:16:29,239 beat.'" He then called up Doug Som, 561 00:16:29,240 --> 00:16:30,339 told him to start growing his hair 562 00:16:30,340 --> 00:16:31,559 in a Beatle Bob and write a song 563 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:32,649 like that. 564 00:16:32,650 --> 00:16:34,129 The band dressed in mod suits and 565 00:16:34,130 --> 00:16:35,309 Chelsea boots and wouldn't reveal 566 00:16:35,310 --> 00:16:37,509 their drawers with stage banter. 567 00:16:37,510 --> 00:16:39,009 The Sir Douglas quintet would come 568 00:16:39,010 --> 00:16:40,449 off as British lad. 569 00:16:40,450 --> 00:16:42,269 Hallabaloo proudly presents, the 570 00:16:42,270 --> 00:16:43,609 Sir Douglas Queen Tip! 571 00:16:49,530 --> 00:16:50,929 The thin ruse may or may not have 572 00:16:50,930 --> 00:16:52,729 been why the song caught fire. 573 00:16:52,730 --> 00:16:53,949 It didn't last long, though. 574 00:16:53,950 --> 00:16:55,209 The quintet appeared on the TV 575 00:16:55,210 --> 00:16:57,029 program Hullabaloo, hosted by fellow 576 00:16:57,030 --> 00:16:58,689 Texan Trini Lopez. 577 00:16:58,690 --> 00:17:00,009 On a stage that continued the 578 00:17:00,010 --> 00:17:01,749 faux-British theme of fabricated 579 00:17:01,750 --> 00:17:03,749 castle, models in knight's armor, 580 00:17:03,750 --> 00:17:05,348 Sam and the Boys in full Mercy Beat 581 00:17:05,349 --> 00:17:07,348 mode, Lopez came on after the 582 00:17:07,349 --> 00:17:08,929 song and told the audience, but I 583 00:17:08,930 --> 00:17:10,269 have a surprise for you. 584 00:17:10,270 --> 00:17:11,568 Before unmasking Sir Doug as a 585 00:17:11,569 --> 00:17:13,429 Texan, I bet we even fooled 586 00:17:13,430 --> 00:17:14,689 Lyndon Lopez-Quist. 587 00:17:22,099 --> 00:17:23,358 You can hear music from the Lone 588 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,219 Star State 24-7 on the 589 00:17:25,220 --> 00:17:28,720 Texas Music Experience at TMX.fm. 590 00:17:30,350 --> 00:17:32,389 Whoa, yeah, what I 591 00:17:32,390 --> 00:17:33,390 say! 592 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:45,739 While football may roll in 593 00:17:45,740 --> 00:17:47,579 Texas and basketball is too much 594 00:17:47,580 --> 00:17:49,699 fun in March-April, 595 00:17:49,700 --> 00:17:51,519 Texans also love them some 596 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:52,539 baseball. 597 00:17:52,540 --> 00:17:54,119 The Astros and the Rangers have both 598 00:17:54,120 --> 00:17:56,059 won championships in recent years, 599 00:17:56,060 --> 00:17:58,159 and Texas is home to eight minor 600 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:00,079 league teams, the third most in 601 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:01,259 the country. 602 00:18:01,260 --> 00:18:03,079 Now an Austin baseball legend 603 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,239 is getting renewed recognition for 604 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:06,359 his historic career. 605 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:08,179 The city renamed a park 606 00:18:08,180 --> 00:18:09,999 in honor of Hall of Famer Don 607 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,369 Baylor recently. 608 00:18:11,370 --> 00:18:13,329 Texas Standard's Justin Doud heard 609 00:18:13,330 --> 00:18:15,529 from Baylor's son Don Baylor Jr. 610 00:18:15,530 --> 00:18:17,769 About his dad's enduring legacy and 611 00:18:17,770 --> 00:18:19,049 why having his name on this 612 00:18:19,050 --> 00:18:21,169 particular park is especially 613 00:18:21,170 --> 00:18:22,170 meaningful. 614 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:26,919 Me out to the bar 615 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:27,920 game take 616 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,039 0-1 to Baylor. 617 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,679 Curveball missed outside from Tia. 618 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:33,799 I tell you, Baylor has always been 619 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:34,959 one of my favorite players in the 620 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:35,979 big room. I've really enjoyed 621 00:18:35,980 --> 00:18:36,779 watching him. 622 00:18:36,780 --> 00:18:38,039 He's a hard player Howard, he's a 623 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,059 tough guy. 624 00:18:39,060 --> 00:18:41,199 He grew up here in Austin, 625 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:42,979 attended Austin High School, 626 00:18:42,980 --> 00:18:45,219 integrated O'Henry in the 627 00:18:45,220 --> 00:18:47,059 mid-60s, got drafted. 628 00:18:47,060 --> 00:18:49,699 His first full season was 1972 629 00:18:49,700 --> 00:18:52,519 with the Baltimore Orioles. 630 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:54,419 Fast forward to 1979, that was 631 00:18:54,420 --> 00:18:56,239 his MVP year and 632 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:57,879 really kind of a magical year. 633 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:58,880 Don Baylor. 634 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,000 Don Baylor 635 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:04,979 That gets the crowd up. 636 00:19:04,980 --> 00:19:06,399 As a kid, I remember some of that. 637 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,399 I was only about six or seven 638 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,439 at the time. But I do remember how 639 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,419 exciting that particular 640 00:19:12,420 --> 00:19:13,599 year was. 641 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,199 And then got traded to the Red Sox 642 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:16,719 in 1986. 643 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,099 I remember that like it was 644 00:19:18,100 --> 00:19:19,679 yesterday. It was a very 645 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:20,619 heartbreaking year. 646 00:19:20,620 --> 00:19:23,499 I'm sure people always remember 647 00:19:23,500 --> 00:19:25,479 game six of the 1986 World 648 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:26,919 Series when the ball goes through 649 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:27,929 Bill Buckner's legs. 650 00:19:27,930 --> 00:19:30,549 Five five in a delirious 651 00:19:30,550 --> 00:19:31,789 10th inning. 652 00:19:31,790 --> 00:19:33,529 Can you believe this ball game a 653 00:19:33,530 --> 00:19:35,889 shame. Oh brother three 654 00:19:35,890 --> 00:19:39,129 and two to Mookie Wilson little 655 00:19:39,130 --> 00:19:41,129 roller up along first behind 656 00:19:41,130 --> 00:19:42,329 the bag. 657 00:19:42,330 --> 00:19:43,330 It gets through but. 658 00:19:46,650 --> 00:19:48,509 That year started the first of 659 00:19:48,510 --> 00:19:50,809 three years where he was in 660 00:19:50,810 --> 00:19:52,509 three consecutive World Series but 661 00:19:52,510 --> 00:19:54,369 with three different teams. 662 00:19:54,370 --> 00:19:56,329 Went on to the Twins 663 00:19:56,330 --> 00:19:58,509 later in 1987 where 664 00:19:58,510 --> 00:20:00,469 they ended up winning the 665 00:20:00,470 --> 00:20:01,789 World Series and you know he played 666 00:20:01,790 --> 00:20:03,859 a pretty prominent part. 667 00:20:03,860 --> 00:20:04,900 To deep left! 668 00:20:09,510 --> 00:20:10,609 Watching baseball, I probably 669 00:20:10,610 --> 00:20:11,729 thought that was the best team I'd 670 00:20:11,730 --> 00:20:13,829 ever seen up until that point. 671 00:20:13,830 --> 00:20:15,649 Don Baylor's first home 672 00:20:15,650 --> 00:20:17,489 run as a twin, 673 00:20:17,490 --> 00:20:19,209 as that graphic showed you, the last 674 00:20:19,210 --> 00:20:21,349 one, a grand slammer, and Boston 675 00:20:21,350 --> 00:20:22,350 off Steve Pearl. 676 00:20:28,460 --> 00:20:30,679 He was born in 1949 677 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,599 in Clarksville. 678 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:33,979 Clarksville was the oldest 679 00:20:33,980 --> 00:20:35,659 Freedmen's community west of the 680 00:20:35,660 --> 00:20:37,899 Mississippi, so it is kind of 681 00:20:37,900 --> 00:20:40,219 a cloister, if you will, 682 00:20:40,220 --> 00:20:41,699 in West Austin. 683 00:20:43,500 --> 00:20:45,239 There were no parks in Clark'sville. 684 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,139 They played in the street, 685 00:20:47,140 --> 00:20:49,059 they played in vacant lots. 686 00:20:49,060 --> 00:20:50,659 Sometimes they would go to Butler 687 00:20:50,660 --> 00:20:52,699 Park in South Austin to play. 688 00:20:52,700 --> 00:20:55,139 Clarks'ville had few 689 00:20:55,140 --> 00:20:56,920 amenities, but a lot of love. 690 00:21:00,210 --> 00:21:02,629 Finally, when desegregation 691 00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:04,589 began to come to 692 00:21:04,590 --> 00:21:07,029 Austin, this is probably about 693 00:21:07,030 --> 00:21:08,869 eight, nine years after 694 00:21:08,870 --> 00:21:10,809 Brown versus Board, 695 00:21:10,810 --> 00:21:12,869 is when I think most 696 00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:15,209 campuses became to be desegregated 697 00:21:15,210 --> 00:21:17,589 and one of those was O'Henry. 698 00:21:17,590 --> 00:21:19,549 He was over the moon 699 00:21:19,550 --> 00:21:20,989 that he could actually go. 700 00:21:20,990 --> 00:21:22,889 He could actually walk to school. 701 00:21:22,890 --> 00:21:25,049 So he was one of three to integrate 702 00:21:25,050 --> 00:21:27,169 that, integrate O'henry. 703 00:21:27,170 --> 00:21:28,969 You know, I think he had good 704 00:21:28,970 --> 00:21:30,849 fortune to be 705 00:21:30,850 --> 00:21:33,049 going to Austin High when he did, 706 00:21:33,050 --> 00:21:34,869 but baseball's a different sport. 707 00:21:34,870 --> 00:21:36,209 It's not like football where you go 708 00:21:36,210 --> 00:21:37,749 to a game and you come back. 709 00:21:37,750 --> 00:21:38,829 Baseball, you gotta go on road 710 00:21:38,830 --> 00:21:41,289 trips. You have to stay in hotels. 711 00:21:41,290 --> 00:21:43,809 That was not something that was 712 00:21:43,810 --> 00:21:45,649 even feasible at that 713 00:21:45,650 --> 00:21:47,969 point. You know, every time 714 00:21:47,970 --> 00:21:50,069 we would drive 715 00:21:50,070 --> 00:21:51,630 on Wednesday, 716 00:21:52,750 --> 00:21:54,669 he would point out 717 00:21:54,670 --> 00:21:56,869 that park as being 718 00:21:56,870 --> 00:21:58,659 really a symbol of Jim Crow. 719 00:21:58,660 --> 00:22:00,639 Right? He's like, you know, that was 720 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:02,439 where the water fountains were 721 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:03,679 segregated. That's where the 722 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,799 bathrooms were segregated, but 723 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,659 that's also where I couldn't go and 724 00:22:07,660 --> 00:22:08,559 play. 725 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,119 If you look at the map, right, this 726 00:22:10,120 --> 00:22:12,639 is right across 727 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,559 the railroad tracks from 728 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:16,359 Clarksville. 729 00:22:16,360 --> 00:22:18,379 And back then before Mopac, 730 00:22:18,380 --> 00:22:19,819 you could just walk across the 731 00:22:19,820 --> 00:22:20,999 railway tracks. 732 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:23,039 And so that park 733 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,179 has, you of really 734 00:22:25,180 --> 00:22:27,039 deep significance. 735 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:28,719 Not just for him, but I think for 736 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:30,259 the whole family that grew up in 737 00:22:30,260 --> 00:22:32,579 Clarksville, when that 738 00:22:32,580 --> 00:22:34,199 park was really off limits. 739 00:22:35,700 --> 00:22:37,279 He's had the most accomplished 740 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,319 sports career of anyone that's 741 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,659 ever was born or raised in Austin. 742 00:22:41,660 --> 00:22:43,539 So I think it was only a matter of 743 00:22:43,540 --> 00:22:45,499 time before we found the 744 00:22:45,500 --> 00:22:47,459 right moment and found 745 00:22:47,460 --> 00:22:49,319 the the right forum to 746 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,019 recognize his accomplishments. 747 00:22:56,810 --> 00:22:58,969 That was the voice of Don 748 00:22:58,970 --> 00:23:00,929 Baylor Jr., son of Austin 749 00:23:00,930 --> 00:23:03,149 baseball legend Don Baylor. 750 00:23:03,150 --> 00:23:04,849 The story was produced by Texas 751 00:23:04,850 --> 00:23:06,529 Standard's Justin Doud, we're going 752 00:23:06,530 --> 00:23:08,529 to have a link to more in our 753 00:23:08,530 --> 00:23:10,389 podcast show notes and 754 00:23:10,390 --> 00:23:12,829 at kut.org 755 00:23:12,830 --> 00:23:14,329 slash signal. 756 00:23:14,330 --> 00:23:15,569 Before we get out of here today, we 757 00:23:15,570 --> 00:23:16,429 didn't have enough time in 758 00:23:16,430 --> 00:23:18,269 yesterday's show to mention that the 759 00:23:18,270 --> 00:23:19,629 Texas women's basketball team 760 00:23:19,630 --> 00:23:21,509 advanced to their second consecutive 761 00:23:21,510 --> 00:23:22,629 Final Four. 762 00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:24,729 The Longhorns are in Phoenix and 763 00:23:24,730 --> 00:23:26,629 will take the court again on Friday 764 00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:28,349 against UCLA. 765 00:23:28,350 --> 00:23:30,189 The Bruins have only lost one 766 00:23:30,190 --> 00:23:31,689 game this season. 767 00:23:31,690 --> 00:23:33,509 That was an 11 point loss to the 768 00:23:33,510 --> 00:23:35,489 Longhorn in the early part of 769 00:23:35,490 --> 00:23:36,529 the year. 770 00:23:36,530 --> 00:23:38,829 Texas vs UCLA Friday 771 00:23:38,830 --> 00:23:40,949 night tip off scheduled for 772 00:23:40,950 --> 00:23:43,309 6.30. That is it for today's 773 00:23:43,310 --> 00:23:45,309 show. Thank you for making us 774 00:23:45,310 --> 00:23:46,949 part of your Wednesday. 775 00:23:46,950 --> 00:23:48,429 Rayna Sevilla is our technical 776 00:23:48,430 --> 00:23:50,349 director and Kristen Cabrera is 777 00:23:50,350 --> 00:23:52,379 our managing producer. 778 00:23:52,380 --> 00:23:54,019 I'm your host Jerry Quijano, we will 779 00:23:54,020 --> 00:23:55,939 be back with you tomorrow, 780 00:23:55,940 --> 00:23:57,140 have a wonderful day.