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From the University of Texas

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at Austin, KUT Radio,

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this is In Black America.

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We noticed that the

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African-American was not represented

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in the grocery stores as

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you will see the Asians

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and the Spanish-speaking

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people, Latinos and

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various other ethnic groups are

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represented in the grocery chains

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but you will not see anything

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that is African- American

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represented by African-Americans

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whether it's a

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We don't sell any of the pork

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products to the grocery stores.

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We don't produce, very few

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companies produce those products.

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And we thought that we would like to

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become a company that would know

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the African-American community

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better than any other company

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and specialize in it and

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be able to do a job that would

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appeal to the professional

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African- American female

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who doesn't have time to

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reduce. The traditional dishes

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that she had grown up with.

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The late William F.

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Bill Williams co-founder of Glory

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Foods, Incorporated.

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In 1989, with three of his

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colleagues, he developed the concept

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of Glory Food.

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Research revealed there was a void

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in the marketplace for food products

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targeting African-American

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consumers.

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In 1992, Glory Food began

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distributing its 17 Southern-style

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food products in supermarkets

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throughout central Ohio.

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Today, Glory Foods.

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The strip is a full line of seasoned

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canned vegetables, frozen entrees,

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and side dishes to over

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140 supermarket chains

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throughout the country.

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Before his death in 2001,

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William worked tirelessly on his

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personal mission to attract young

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African Americans to the culinary

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arts and the hospitality industry.

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Glory Foods had to stab his

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scholarships in disregarding his

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namesake and continued to support

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other programs for minority

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students.

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At Disney, Glory Foods donates

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thousands of his products to food

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banks in need each year.

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In 2010, Glory donated

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products to support relief efforts

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following hurricane damage in

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Haiti.

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Williams died on December 27,

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2001.

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He was 57 years old.

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I'm Johnny L.

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Hanson Jr.

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And welcome to another edition of

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In Black America.

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On this week's program, remembering

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William F.

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Bill Williams, co-founder of

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Glory Foods, Incorporated.

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In Black America.

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We originally started with the

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17 items.

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It was our idea at that time to

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do everything that was necessary

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to complete a meal for

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the modern professional

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African-American female,

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thinking that if she wanted to

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have a traditional meal for her

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family, she could go

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to the store, buy the cornbread,

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buy our hot sauce, buy her

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greens.

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Buy our black eyed peas,

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go to the fish counter and get

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herself a piece of

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catfish, fry the catfish

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and simply heat up the

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products, the glory food products

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and have a complete meal.

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That was our thinking and

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in a relatively short

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period of time could offer her

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family a traditional wholesome meal.

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The increasing popularity of ethnic

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foods have helped spur Glory Foods'

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growth. Ethnic foods are a $75

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billion a year market in this

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country.

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According to the U.S.

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Department of Agriculture's Economic

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Research Service, more

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than a third of its sales are made

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at supermarkets, which is where

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Glory Foods sells its product.

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William attended the Culinary

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Institute of America, where he

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graduated with honors.

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He went on to attain his bachelor's

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degree in hotel and restaurant

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management.

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From the University of

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Massachusetts.

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He then spent more than 20 years as

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a food and beverage manager for

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hotel and restaurant chains.

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William was one of Columbus, Ohio's

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most respected businessmen and

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restaurateurs.

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In addition to ownership of Glory

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Foods, he also owned and

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managed a specialty food

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distribution company and the Marble

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Gang Restaurant.

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A strong advocate of minority

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representation in the food and

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beverages industry, William served

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on numerous boards supporting

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this effort.

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He was co-chairman of Ohio State

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University's College of Food,

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Agriculture, and Environmental

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Sciences, where he helped raise

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$7 million in endowments

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for African-American students

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pursuing degrees in agribusiness.

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In 1996, Glory Food

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was named Black Enterprise

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Magazine's Emerging Company

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of the Year.

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In December 2009, Glory

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food was sold to McCall Farms,

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Incorporated.

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According to the current president,

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Jacqueline Neal, Glory Food has

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become a subsidiary of

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McCall and will remain a separate

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minority controlled and managed

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company.

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In 1996, In Black America

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spoke with the late William F.

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Bill Williams.

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I'm from Columbus, Ohio.

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It's my home.

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I attended school,

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the Culinary Institute of America in

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New Haven, Connecticut, and

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got a culinary background, and

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I began working in hotels and

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restaurants.

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About 11 years ago, I

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started my own restaurant here in

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Columbus, Ohio called The

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Marble Gang, which is a neighborhood

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restaurant that appeals to upscale

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African-American consumers.

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Here in Commerce, Ohio.

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Okay, how did you happen to

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spark an interest in

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food service?

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I actually did

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not spark an interest in food

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service. It was pretty much directed

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to me from high

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school and because of my

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part-time jobs and

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things, and from those part-times

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jobs then I just carried it on

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as a vocation.

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What are some of the joys in being

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in the restaurant business?

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For me, it has been a good

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income producing

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business.

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I've met a lot of people throughout

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the country and have a lot of

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friends in the industry

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which allows me to live

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a good lifestyle in traveling

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on vacations and or

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traveling with hotels.

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You spent 20 years in

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the food and beverage management for

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hotels and restaurant chains.

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What are some of the things that

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you've learned from working in other

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restaurants and hotels?

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The big advantage in working in

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restaurant hotels is that you're

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completely involved in everything

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from the producing of the food

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itself, which makes it, you know,

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you learn how to schedule

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and produce things.

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You have to become a marketer.

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You have learn how to sell

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that product on a menu, how

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to go and observe other

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competitors, which allows you

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to be first or try to

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be in the areas that you

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want to work in.

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markups and how to

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keep your price competitive

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with other very competitive

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restaurants and hotels.

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The Marble Gang has somewhat

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lasted through financial

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challenges over the years

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in Columbus.

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Can you put your finger on why

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you were somewhat successful

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and has been successful in the same

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location?

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It's been there 11 years.

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gang, we did

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not put a lot of investment

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into it.

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facility that had some

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advantages.

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look that was timely for

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the restaurant.

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And so therefore, we didn't have to

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carry a lot at debt.

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I went about hiring people that

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had already had some training in

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food service, and that prevented

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me from having to

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spend a lot of extra money in

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training, et cetera,

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in getting the restaurant open in a

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timely manner.

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When one attends college and

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majoring in hotel and restaurant

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management, is it more

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than just preparing food

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that's a part of the curriculum?

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all sorts of things that are

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involved.

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There's restaurant hotel law,

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which you must have

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some understanding of.

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There's microbiology,

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there is bacteriology,

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there are courses in dairy

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science.

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You have your county major,

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your county that you have to

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complete.

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You have your business courses that

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you have to complete,

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so it's a well-rounded

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education that can prepare you for

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business in general.

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One of the things that is done, as

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a matter of fact, because of my

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understanding of how food was

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produced, it allowed me to

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experiment and develop the concept

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of glory foods, as matter of a fact.

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How did you happen to come

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up with the idea for Glory

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Foods?

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We had been selling foods

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and we established a

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large lines of credit with

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those major manufacturers

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in the country.

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We noticed that the African-American

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was not represented in the grocery

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stores.

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As you will see, the

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Asians and the

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Spanish-speaking people,

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Latinos, and

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and various other ethnic groups are

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represented in the grocery chains,

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but you will not see anything

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that is African-American represented

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by African-Americans,

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whether it's a,

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we don't sell any of the pork

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products to the grocery stores, we

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very few

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companies produce those products.

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And we thought that we would

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like to become a company that would

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know the African- American community

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better than.

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Any other company and specialize

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in it and be able to do a

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job that will...

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Would appeal to the professional

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African American female

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who doesn't

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have time to produce the

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traditional dishes that she had

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grown up with and we thought that

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that would create a

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very good

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food product for the

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home.

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Besides knowing that you had

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a good idea and an

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excellent product,

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were there any research mechanisms

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in which you all had to

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perform to somewhat convince

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lending institutions that this was

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a viable idea?

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Yes, we did approach

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a marketing company in

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New York Lockhart& Pettis that

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did some research

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for us to determine that there was a

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viable market there.

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We were able to take that

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information then and convince

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the processors

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that there is a viable mark.

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That we were able to take that

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information then and convince our

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bankers and

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our grocery.

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Change that there was a

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viable market from that

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research, as a

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matter of fact.

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Did you start out with the 17

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items that you currently have or

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there was a limited number of items

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in which you began with?

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We originally started with the

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17 items.

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It was our idea at that time to

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do everything that was necessary

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to complete a meal for

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the modern professional

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African American female thinking

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that if she wanted to have a

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traditional meal for her family,

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she could go to the store,

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buy the cornbread, buy

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our hot sauce, buy out greens.

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Buy our black eyed peas,

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go to the fish counter and

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get herself a

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piece of catfish, fry the

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catfish and simply heat up

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the products, the glory food

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products and have a complete

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meal.

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That was our thinking and a

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relatively short period of time

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could offer her family a

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traditional Wholesome meal.

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Without giving away any of the

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trade secrets, was it difficult

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in making

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the small amounts that

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is required to go into a can that's

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going to actually have a significant

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shelf life.

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It was extremely difficult because

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it's a completely different process.

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The process that we use

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with Glory Foods is a

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new and different process

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Is it a patented process?

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Or is just a guarded company secret?

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It's an

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approved process.

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Okay.

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And the approval organization,

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FDA, or?

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It's the food canners.

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Okay.

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Processors Association.

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Who are some of the other

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individuals that make up Glory

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Foods?

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Uh... Iris mccord

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she and i work together at lazarus

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she has a marketing degree

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from uh...

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Uh... Indiana university and uh...

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She and I work together lazarus

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developing new concepts in

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restaurants there uh...

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Lazarus is a large department store

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here in comers ohio

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uh... There is a fellow by

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the name of dan charna who for

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me at Lazarus in one

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of my restaurants.

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And there's another partner

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00:14:10,660 --> 00:14:12,959
by the name of Gar Kenley,

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who he and I became

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partners in real

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estate here in Clemson, Ohio, as

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a matter of fact.

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This is In Black America.

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We'll be back with more of our

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conversation in a moment.

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And now back to this episode

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of In Black American.

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Was it a tremendous financial

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outlay to actually

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launch Glory Foods to

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the point it is today?

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Initially, it was not.

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In the past year,

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we've had to really

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start to

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invest large dollars

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00:14:51,100 --> 00:14:53,279
into the concept because of

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the growth phase

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that we're in now, expanding

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faster than we are

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producing dollars, as

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00:15:02,020 --> 00:15:05,319
a matter of fact. But initially

447
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it was a really...

448
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Time and effort spent

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in the research and development of

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the concept which was

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00:15:14,010 --> 00:15:16,089
done in

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our spare time

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and our extra

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time.

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So we put the

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real cost in the front

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end and

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00:15:27,110 --> 00:15:29,609
kept those cost at a minimum, and

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00:15:29,610 --> 00:15:31,509
we have begun now to.

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Put large dollars into it to

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00:15:33,750 --> 00:15:35,669
advertise the product, to let

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it be known to the consumer

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that there is an alternative

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to corn and to

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other vegetables and

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microwavable products that

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the professional

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00:15:49,790 --> 00:15:52,049
African American

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woman can have

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an alternative for her family.

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Once you convinced the financial

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institutions that this was a

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great idea, was it difficult

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00:16:01,910 --> 00:16:03,789
in convincing

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00:16:03,790 --> 00:16:05,729
the supermarket chains

476
00:16:05,730 --> 00:16:07,709
around the country that this is

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a viable product in which they

478
00:16:09,150 --> 00:16:10,769
should stock in their stores?

479
00:16:10,770 --> 00:16:12,649
Actually, we've

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had a lot of

481
00:16:15,630 --> 00:16:17,749
very good,

482
00:16:17,750 --> 00:16:19,869
warm welcomes by

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00:16:19,870 --> 00:16:21,389
the grocery chains.

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00:16:21,390 --> 00:16:23,489
We started with, here in Columbus,

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a Terry Smith who we had been

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working with for about ten years.

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00:16:26,690 --> 00:16:28,529
Terry gave us

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00:16:28,530 --> 00:16:29,530
the...

489
00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,119
For Glory Foods in

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00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,019
very short order and

491
00:16:36,020 --> 00:16:38,159
the test was extremely successful

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00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,139
and things went

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00:16:40,140 --> 00:16:42,119
extremely well during that period

494
00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,339
so the other stores now

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00:16:44,340 --> 00:16:46,319
looking at the large sales

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00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,179
that we were creating

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00:16:48,180 --> 00:16:50,099
and the customer base that we're

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00:16:50,100 --> 00:16:52,239
creating for them, they've

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00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,099
been very pleased and they've be

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00:16:54,100 --> 00:16:56,219
welcoming us as we

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travel and expand our

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distribution.

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What are some of the names of the

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00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,899
stores and other major

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00:17:02,900 --> 00:17:04,899
states or cities in which one

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00:17:04,900 --> 00:17:06,129
could find Glory Foods?

507
00:17:06,130 --> 00:17:08,229
Today, we're

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00:17:08,230 --> 00:17:10,328
from Washington, D.C.,

509
00:17:10,329 --> 00:17:12,229
all the way around through the

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southeast to Memphis.

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And you'll find Giant

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and Safeway in the Washington

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Baltimore markets and

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Northern Virginia.

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00:17:22,550 --> 00:17:24,389
You'll find Foodline in

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Virginia, North Carolina,

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and South Carolina.

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00:17:29,450 --> 00:17:30,990
And you'll find it in...

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The Atlanta and

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00:17:34,790 --> 00:17:36,909
Georgia, you'll find it in the

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00:17:36,910 --> 00:17:39,149
Winn-Dixie chain, you will find it

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in the Kroger chain,

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00:17:43,230 --> 00:17:45,569
the SuperValue and

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in fact in all major chains there

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in the Georgia

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area.

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And in Alabama we're in

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Calhoun, it's

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an African-American owned

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00:17:56,930 --> 00:17:58,949
company there that has been

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00:17:58,950 --> 00:18:00,809
doing just a tremendous job

532
00:18:00,810 --> 00:18:01,810
there.

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00:18:02,120 --> 00:18:04,359
Montgomery, Salem,

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00:18:04,360 --> 00:18:05,739
and Tuskegee.

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And we've been working very

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00:18:07,860 --> 00:18:09,939
closely with them and enjoying our

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00:18:09,940 --> 00:18:10,940
relationship.

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00:18:12,740 --> 00:18:14,739
Memphis, we're with Kroger Chain,

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00:18:14,740 --> 00:18:16,579
and

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00:18:16,580 --> 00:18:18,699
then we go then

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00:18:18,700 --> 00:18:20,519
back up through

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00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,700
Nashville, Louisville,

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and Cincinnati, and Columbus.

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00:18:26,120 --> 00:18:27,359
Those are the marks that we're in

545
00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:28,109
presently.

546
00:18:28,110 --> 00:18:30,949
Why do you believe your particular

547
00:18:30,950 --> 00:18:32,829
entrepreneurial business

548
00:18:32,830 --> 00:18:34,949
is a great business for

549
00:18:34,950 --> 00:18:36,369
African Americans to become involved

550
00:18:36,370 --> 00:18:37,219
in?

551
00:18:37,220 --> 00:18:39,159
Uh... I i think it's because it

552
00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,539
hasn't been as

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00:18:41,540 --> 00:18:44,379
well as

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00:18:44,380 --> 00:18:46,339
uh... It could be

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00:18:46,340 --> 00:18:48,259
uh... I think the majority

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00:18:48,260 --> 00:18:50,239
companies uh...

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00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,499
Simply do not no or understand

558
00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:54,679
that there are differences

559
00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:56,400
in the

560
00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,539
uh... Populations and

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00:18:59,540 --> 00:19:01,299
uh... They you know they tried to

562
00:19:01,300 --> 00:19:02,919
create products that are homogeneous

563
00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,959
to everyone and

564
00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,459
uh... We think that uh...

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00:19:07,460 --> 00:19:09,519
Well, it has always been known to

566
00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,019
African-Americans that like hair

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00:19:11,020 --> 00:19:13,119
care products.

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00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:15,039
And if we can

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00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,119
think and have the ability

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00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:18,959
to really look at

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00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:20,839
things, we can see that

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00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,199
there's other products that are

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00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:23,139
completely different.

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00:19:23,140 --> 00:19:25,279
I think you're starting to see

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00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:26,579
stockings are being.

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00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,679
Are different today for

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00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,519
African Americans than they were

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00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:35,359
in the past and there was

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00:19:35,360 --> 00:19:37,799
a time when we would simply wear

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00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,419
whatever stockings that were being

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00:19:39,420 --> 00:19:41,099
produced even though they didn't fit

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00:19:41,100 --> 00:19:42,100
us properly or

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00:19:44,130 --> 00:19:45,130
want it on.

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00:19:47,050 --> 00:19:48,869
So that creates an

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00:19:48,870 --> 00:19:51,769
opportunity for someone to

586
00:19:51,770 --> 00:19:53,629
develop that

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00:19:53,630 --> 00:19:55,569
line and become the expert

588
00:19:55,570 --> 00:19:57,509
in that

589
00:19:57,510 --> 00:19:58,510
area.

590
00:19:59,170 --> 00:20:01,169
I think that there's other types

591
00:20:01,170 --> 00:20:03,169
of products, I can't think of those

592
00:20:03,170 --> 00:20:05,169
items today, but there's others

593
00:20:05,170 --> 00:20:07,069
things like that that will allow

594
00:20:07,070 --> 00:20:09,109
you to have your niche market

595
00:20:09,110 --> 00:20:10,949
and you can

596
00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:12,789
develop it and not have

597
00:20:12,790 --> 00:20:14,019
to compete.

598
00:20:14,020 --> 00:20:16,159
With them on their

599
00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:18,079
terms, but simply work in the area

600
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:19,819
that you can be good in.

601
00:20:19,820 --> 00:20:21,839
In fact, my restaurant is

602
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,359
a classic example of that.

603
00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:26,299
We're located in the heart of

604
00:20:26,300 --> 00:20:28,559
the African American community,

605
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,519
and we have a very good

606
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,459
reputation of white and

607
00:20:32,460 --> 00:20:34,279
black customers

608
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:36,319
of all income

609
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,659
levels that I

610
00:20:38,660 --> 00:20:40,039
don't have a lot of competition

611
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:41,939
with. And that's allowed

612
00:20:41,940 --> 00:20:42,940
me to.

613
00:20:44,060 --> 00:20:45,879
Be there and strong

614
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,919
financially for the past 11 years

615
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,879
now, whereas a lot of people have

616
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,799
come and gone with all sorts of

617
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,759
great ideas here in

618
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,269
the Columbus market.

619
00:20:56,270 --> 00:20:57,989
Why don't you feel it was important

620
00:20:57,990 --> 00:21:00,149
for Glory Food to form a partnership

621
00:21:00,150 --> 00:21:02,029
with South Carolina African

622
00:21:02,030 --> 00:21:03,030
American farmers?

623
00:21:03,990 --> 00:21:06,150
Uh... Didn't know that you knew that

624
00:21:09,010 --> 00:21:11,829
uh... We uh...

625
00:21:11,830 --> 00:21:13,649
We have not only

626
00:21:13,650 --> 00:21:15,649
uh... From the beginning of the

627
00:21:15,650 --> 00:21:17,649
concept the very beginning irish

628
00:21:17,650 --> 00:21:19,849
mccord and i agree

629
00:21:19,850 --> 00:21:21,789
that whatever we would do we would

630
00:21:21,790 --> 00:21:23,729
try to do it with

631
00:21:23,730 --> 00:21:25,889
uh... As many african-americans

632
00:21:25,890 --> 00:21:27,609
uh... Do business with his many

633
00:21:27,610 --> 00:21:29,579
africa as possible

634
00:21:29,580 --> 00:21:31,679
So if we go into a city

635
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,659
in Charlotte, we try to stay

636
00:21:33,660 --> 00:21:35,639
there at McDonald's, that's

637
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,539
a hotel and restaurant there in

638
00:21:37,540 --> 00:21:39,539
Charlotte. If we go onto Atlanta,

639
00:21:39,540 --> 00:21:41,999
we tried to stay at the

640
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:43,699
Barclay, that is a hotel that is

641
00:21:43,700 --> 00:21:46,239
owned by African Americans and

642
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,679
our marketing

643
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,899
people are African Americans.

644
00:21:50,900 --> 00:21:52,819
Our public relations firm is

645
00:21:52,820 --> 00:21:54,319
out of Atlanta, they are African

646
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,340
American. We

647
00:21:58,190 --> 00:22:00,029
We then thought that if we're going

648
00:22:00,030 --> 00:22:02,509
to be buying these

649
00:22:02,510 --> 00:22:04,629
black IPs, we need to

650
00:22:04,630 --> 00:22:07,609
get African-American farmers growing

651
00:22:07,610 --> 00:22:09,829
these black IPs

652
00:22:09,830 --> 00:22:11,889
for us, and so we've encouraged them

653
00:22:11,890 --> 00:22:12,799
to.

654
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:14,659
Grow black eyed peas which

655
00:22:14,660 --> 00:22:16,539
gives them a better margin

656
00:22:16,540 --> 00:22:18,839
than if they're growing soybeans

657
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:19,739
or corn.

658
00:22:19,740 --> 00:22:21,659
So it's a starting place and

659
00:22:21,660 --> 00:22:23,599
we're trying to encourage

660
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,819
them to produce the products that

661
00:22:25,820 --> 00:22:28,159
we are producing now and

662
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,399
we just think that it

663
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,859
completes our objectives of

664
00:22:32,860 --> 00:22:35,379
trying to grow and

665
00:22:35,380 --> 00:22:36,709
develop ourselves.

666
00:22:36,710 --> 00:22:38,709
Does Glory Food have a commitment

667
00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:40,589
to the community?

668
00:22:40,590 --> 00:22:42,869
It has, yes.

669
00:22:42,870 --> 00:22:44,869
And it continues.

670
00:22:44,870 --> 00:22:46,709
I mean, that goes all the way

671
00:22:46,710 --> 00:22:48,229
back, you know, from our very

672
00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:49,869
beginning, if our offices are

673
00:22:49,870 --> 00:22:51,369
located within the community,

674
00:22:52,910 --> 00:22:54,449
our investments are located within

675
00:22:54,450 --> 00:22:55,450
our community.

676
00:22:58,230 --> 00:23:00,189
We contribute

677
00:23:00,190 --> 00:23:03,169
large

678
00:23:03,170 --> 00:23:05,309
dollars to various

679
00:23:05,310 --> 00:23:07,509
African American type

680
00:23:07,510 --> 00:23:09,349
of projects and things

681
00:23:09,350 --> 00:23:11,159
throughout the country now.

682
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,799
As a result of the growth and

683
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,039
development of Glory Foods.

684
00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:18,529
It's been win-win for all of us

685
00:23:18,530 --> 00:23:19,829
at this point.

686
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:22,859
Bill, could you give us a definition

687
00:23:22,860 --> 00:23:24,439
of Southern cooking?

688
00:23:25,770 --> 00:23:27,289
Uh, definition?

689
00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:31,019
Or somewhat explain it, can you

690
00:23:31,020 --> 00:23:32,459
explain it?

691
00:23:32,460 --> 00:23:34,559
It is just a feeling that one has

692
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,280
when he or she is in the kitchen.

693
00:23:37,540 --> 00:23:39,979
John, my definition

694
00:23:39,980 --> 00:23:43,099
always has been that

695
00:23:43,100 --> 00:23:44,939
African Americans had

696
00:23:44,940 --> 00:23:47,439
to take food products that were

697
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,539
marginal food items and

698
00:23:49,540 --> 00:23:51,380
they had to make them taste good,

699
00:23:52,420 --> 00:23:54,399
so if you will,

700
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,639
chicken and dumplings was one

701
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,579
of those items and so they took

702
00:23:58,580 --> 00:24:01,039
a chicken that was

703
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:02,979
a tough old bird

704
00:24:02,980 --> 00:24:05,089
and made it.

705
00:24:05,090 --> 00:24:06,769
Very tasty.

706
00:24:06,770 --> 00:24:10,109
They had to take the

707
00:24:10,110 --> 00:24:12,749
collard greens that were tough and

708
00:24:12,750 --> 00:24:14,130
make them tasty.

709
00:24:15,870 --> 00:24:19,129
And so it's a,

710
00:24:19,130 --> 00:24:21,089
you know, you had to those food

711
00:24:21,090 --> 00:24:23,309
items that you had and

712
00:24:23,310 --> 00:24:25,169
make them special.

713
00:24:25,170 --> 00:24:27,389
And I think that that is why

714
00:24:27,390 --> 00:24:29,449
there was always more love and more

715
00:24:29,450 --> 00:24:32,509
care given to the...

716
00:24:32,510 --> 00:24:34,369
Soul food, and I

717
00:24:34,370 --> 00:24:36,229
don't know this, but

718
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:38,209
I believe that that's why

719
00:24:38,210 --> 00:24:40,089
it was called soul food.

720
00:24:40,090 --> 00:24:42,349
You had to put yourself into

721
00:24:42,350 --> 00:24:44,489
that food to make it

722
00:24:44,490 --> 00:24:45,730
special. Otherwise,

723
00:24:46,870 --> 00:24:49,289
sweet potatoes that you

724
00:24:49,290 --> 00:24:51,229
don't really put a lot of

725
00:24:51,230 --> 00:24:53,069
love into are just not quite

726
00:24:53,070 --> 00:24:55,569
as good as

727
00:24:55,570 --> 00:24:58,939
those that your mother put a

728
00:24:58,940 --> 00:25:00,779
And the same, you know,

729
00:25:00,780 --> 00:25:02,539
you can just throw cornbread

730
00:25:02,540 --> 00:25:04,739
together and it's not very special.

731
00:25:04,740 --> 00:25:06,299
But if you put a little love into

732
00:25:06,300 --> 00:25:08,259
it, it becomes very

733
00:25:08,260 --> 00:25:10,199
special and it makes

734
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,359
for a complete dinner.

735
00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:14,239
You can take a pot of

736
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,279
beans and you can

737
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,839
have a wholesome meal,

738
00:25:18,940 --> 00:25:20,839
whether you're poor or rich.

739
00:25:22,180 --> 00:25:24,539
And when we eat now,

740
00:25:24,540 --> 00:25:26,519
my family, we have our pinto

741
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,740
beans often now with our cornbread.

742
00:25:30,449 --> 00:25:32,849
And we say,

743
00:25:32,850 --> 00:25:34,329
you know, that's a complete meal for

744
00:25:34,330 --> 00:25:35,669
us today.

745
00:25:35,670 --> 00:25:37,669
And we feel pretty good about that

746
00:25:37,670 --> 00:25:39,729
because, you know,

747
00:25:39,730 --> 00:25:42,029
it's almost holy if

748
00:25:42,030 --> 00:25:43,949
you enjoy

749
00:25:43,950 --> 00:25:46,239
these simple things in life.

750
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,219
Are you all health conscious at

751
00:25:48,220 --> 00:25:50,519
Glory Foods, considering the

752
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,619
levels of fat, sodium, etc.

753
00:25:52,620 --> 00:25:54,119
That are currently in cancer?

754
00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:56,659
In fact that was a,

755
00:25:56,660 --> 00:25:59,099
from the beginning it

756
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:01,099
was a concern from

757
00:26:01,100 --> 00:26:03,059
the very beginning that we would

758
00:26:03,060 --> 00:26:04,959
not be able to produce this product

759
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,019
in a

760
00:26:08,020 --> 00:26:09,999
modern period

761
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,079
of time because if

762
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,239
you produce good

763
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,659
tasting soul food invariably

764
00:26:16,660 --> 00:26:18,839
you're going to have to use large

765
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,799
amounts of fat and

766
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,929
large amounts 7.

767
00:26:23,930 --> 00:26:24,930
Sodium.

768
00:26:26,010 --> 00:26:27,969
So what we did was

769
00:26:27,970 --> 00:26:30,769
we developed really

770
00:26:30,770 --> 00:26:32,669
spices and a recipe

771
00:26:32,670 --> 00:26:34,789
that we think is

772
00:26:34,790 --> 00:26:36,989
a lot less

773
00:26:36,990 --> 00:26:38,889
fat content and

774
00:26:38,890 --> 00:26:40,869
or sodium than what you would

775
00:26:40,870 --> 00:26:42,589
produce in your own home.

776
00:26:42,590 --> 00:26:44,569
So although we have not

777
00:26:44,570 --> 00:26:46,389
produced this product to say that it

778
00:26:46,390 --> 00:26:48,609
is a health

779
00:26:48,610 --> 00:26:50,529
food and we're not selling as a

780
00:26:50,530 --> 00:26:52,369
health food, but we're seeing that

781
00:26:52,370 --> 00:26:53,370
it is a better.

782
00:26:54,770 --> 00:26:56,849
Prepared food item

783
00:26:56,850 --> 00:26:59,669
you then if you

784
00:26:59,670 --> 00:27:01,109
prepared it yourself at home

785
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,009
Bill I wish you

786
00:27:04,010 --> 00:27:05,049
I'm sorry.

787
00:27:05,050 --> 00:27:06,050
I'm-I'm sorry, John.

788
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,339
I want you to complete your

789
00:27:08,340 --> 00:27:09,340
statement.

790
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,299
So although we're not

791
00:27:12,300 --> 00:27:14,159
selling health food, we are

792
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,239
selling food that will allow you

793
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,499
to be

794
00:27:18,500 --> 00:27:20,399
very comfortable in

795
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,279
knowing that you're feeding your

796
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,280
family,

797
00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:26,119
which is our company motto, just

798
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:27,139
about the best.

799
00:27:27,140 --> 00:27:29,159
It's not the same as what you can

800
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,179
produce in your own home, but it's

801
00:27:31,180 --> 00:27:32,679
just about to best, and that's our

802
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:33,659
company logo.

803
00:27:33,660 --> 00:27:34,999
The late William F.

804
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,059
Bill Williams, co-founder of Glory

805
00:27:37,060 --> 00:27:38,199
Foods.

806
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,919
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807
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,639
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