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Lake Pflugerville's water levels

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remain low after a series of water

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line breaks, the most recent of

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which was fixed on Wednesday.

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Local officials have issued water

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conservation calls while the

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man-made lake gets back to normal

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levels.

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We're going to have more about those

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water issues coming up on today's

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The Austin Signal is a production

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of KUT News, hosted by

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Jerry Quijano.

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Libraries are havens for many

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nonprofit is now providing mental

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health resources in some central

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Texas libraries.

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Texas men's and women's basketball.

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here on Austin Signal.

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Howdy out there, you are tuned in

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to Austin Signal.

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Thank you for spending part of

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Water is flowing into Lake

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Pflugerville again after another

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water line break was addressed this

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week. It's the fifth such break

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in the water line over the past

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seven months, and as a result,

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water levels in the lake remain

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seriously depleted.

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For more about this story, we are

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joined by Katie McAfee.

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She's KUT's Travis County reporter,

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and she's been following this story.

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Hiya, Katie.

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Hey Jerry, thanks for having me.

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So let's talk about this

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water line. This most recent one was

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the fifth one.

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What happened with the four that

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came before this one?

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started in September of

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2025. So this has kind of been going

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on for a while.

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Um, that break was,

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according to city officials,

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relatively simple to

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fix.

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They fixed that one.

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Things are kind of going back to

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Then break two happens a few months

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later in November.

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easy to fix fast

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again, relatively to fix

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February, and this is where things

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OK, and what happened with that one?

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the city realizes that there

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is another main break in

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their waterline.

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to find at all.

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It takes them more than 10 days

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to locate where this break is

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because it turns out it's 20 feet

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it's also difficult for them

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weeks before they were able to

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install a bypass line.

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So water was flowing back into Lake

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Pflugerville.

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of millions of gallons of water

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were lost in the lake.

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the most severe one until

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this fifth one or what was the

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status of this fifth?

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like the first three, relatively

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simple to find and easily accessible

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Wednesday evening.

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be familiar with Lake Flugerville,

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how do they get water there?

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man-made lake and

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the water that's in there, it was

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made to be a reservoir.

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now, but it is primarily a reservoir

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and the Water that is in that lake

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is entirely from

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the Colorado River.

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long pipe that pumps water from

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the Colorado River all the way to

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Lake Pflugerville.

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it doesn't like water won't flow

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into it when there's a lot of

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rainfall or anything like that.

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that's gonna fall directly on top of

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it. Yeah, exactly.

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in Lake, Pflugerville who uses that

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water?

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Pflugerville is

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using water from Lake Pfluggerville.

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is facing some sort of water

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restrictions that have been put in

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place. What is the status there?

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So since hundreds of millions of

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gallons of water were lost,

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kind of what happened was after the

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fourth break, the city realized

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that they had lost a lot of water.

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bad the situation was.

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So on March 1st, they said, hey,

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we're just going to move to stage

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one water restrictions,

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which limits customers to

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outdoor watering one day week.

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realized how significant the

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water loss was and on March 4th,

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they were like, hey guys, we need

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to move all the way to stage three,

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which is way more restrictive.

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customers are not allowed to water

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outside at all.

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foundation of someone's home

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to prevent cracking.

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asking that people conserve water

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in other ways.

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They're asking people do less

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cycles of laundry, less cycles

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running the dishwasher a little bit

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less, taking shorter showers,

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even collecting rainwater or

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collecting water used after washing

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your hands, things like that.

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So pretty restrictive, and

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these are going to stay in place for

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probably a while because they have

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so much water to recover.

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Right now the

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lake is at 17 feet

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deep And city officials say

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they have to keep these stage three

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restrictions until the lake gets to

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19 feet deep

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I know that's only that's, only two

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feet. So it doesn't sound

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Seemed like a lie, yeah?

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It might not seem like a lot, but it

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accounts for, you know, hundreds of

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millions of gallons of water and

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city officials estimate that it

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could take two months ish,

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but really just depends on

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how well the city conserves that

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water.

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This is the fifth water line break

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in about seven months.

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Is there a reason these keep

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Right now, I don't know.

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city didn't open up

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interviews for any reporters because

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they said all hands are on deck.

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Everyone's completely focused on

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handling the water situation right

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now.

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But there is a lot of questions that

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we haven't answered that I want to

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keep pursuing.

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I haven't talked with an engineer

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who can walk me through why breaks

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one through five happened, if the

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system is still vulnerable to more

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talking to some experts about and

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doing another story on

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All right, that is KUT's Katie

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As you drive beyond Austin into the

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rural areas of central Texas,

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access to health care can be sparse,

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support.

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That's why a local nonprofit had the

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idea to place mental health

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resources in a trusted community

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center that many rural folks can

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already access for free.

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That's the library.

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KUT's Olivia Aldridge reports

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from Smithville.

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Okay, take an inhale and exhale

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It's just a regular Wednesday at

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the Smithville Public Library,

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and that means there's a lot going

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In the back room, around a dozen

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women, some fairly young, some

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well into their golden years,

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are gathered on folding chairs,

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stretching their arms and legs into

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careful poses.

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Hold it here with your hands

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or you can just choose to just

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let it hang right there

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Cheryl McNeil says it was a

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game-changer when the library

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started offering these free chair

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yoga classes.

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She would have had to drive to

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Bastrop for something like this

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before.

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It's really good.

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I just needed to get moving and

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stretching and I hadn't

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been doing all that, so.

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sitting behind the yogis,

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knitting hats for local veterans who

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are going through chemo.

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A yogi waves goodbye to them after

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class.

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Bye, Nate Witts.

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See y'all later.

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That's nitwits with a K.

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Library director, Judy Bergeron,

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says there's a good reason why the

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groups meet in the same room.

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We have noticed that when we're

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doing the leg stretches and stuff

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like that with the chair yoga,

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their legs are moving under the

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table, so.

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It's kind of fun.

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The class is part of programming

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she's introduced for what's called

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the Libraries for Health Initiative.

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Smithville is one of eight Central

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Texas libraries receiving funding

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from the St. David's Foundation,

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aimed at boosting mental health

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support in their communities.

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Abinah Asante, a senior program

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officer at the foundation, says the

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idea came after a community health

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needs assessment showed there was

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insufficient mental health support

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across the five Central Texas

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counties the organization covers.

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Thinking about how do we respond

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to this persistent gap

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here in central Texas,

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we started looking at the assets

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within our region and

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libraries was one of the

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assets that came up again and

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again.

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Most communities already have

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libraries and rely on them,

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not just for books, but for all

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kinds of resources.

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That's certainly true in Smithville.

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Bergeron says for some people, it's

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the only place they have access to

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computers and the internet.

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It's not just coming in to use

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the computer, but it's

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coming in because I have to fill out

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a critical social security benefits

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form, and I don't know

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how to do it, and how can I

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get help?

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Also veterans unsure how to access

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their benefits, people looking for

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help recovering from addiction, and

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unhoused people looking a space to

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cool off.

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Library staff just aren't always

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equipped with the time or training

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to help.

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That's where Libraries for Health

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comes in.

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The St. David's Foundation gave

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grants to libraries from Smithville

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to Martindale to San Marcos,

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allowing them flexibility to fund

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what they think will be most

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helpful.

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But they also provided funding for a

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peer support specialist.

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Someone with lived experience who

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can talk patrons through mental

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health challenges and help them

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find resources.

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In Smithville, that's Brittany Khan

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Flores.

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She says she has experience with

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addiction and mental health

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challenge that helps her to identify

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with library patrons and build

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trust.

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Tell a story or hey

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just share you know what when I was

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in that situation this is what I did

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I'm not I can't say it'll work for

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you but you know it's

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a possibility if you like to try it

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you know we can maybe strategize on

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how to get you there.

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Up north at the library in Gerald,

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there are currently two peer support

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specialists who work with different

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groups that make up key portions of

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the growing Gerald community.

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Susan Gregorick is the library's

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chief academic advisor.

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Director.

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One works with young families

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and parenting and

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parents who have children with

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disabilities and

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the other works with more

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of the senior citizens.

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That second specialist also works

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with an American Sign Language

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group, a veterans group, and

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groups on grief, anxiety, and

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depression.

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Gregorick says they've dramatically

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expanded what the library is

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able to do.

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And she doesn't want to let them go

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after funding from the foundation

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wraps up at the end.

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Of the year.

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I hate to use the word desperately,

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but we are desperately seeking

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funding to keep both

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of our peer support specialists

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after 2026.

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They both are very

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good at the jobs they're doing right

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now.

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Some libraries, like Gerald's, are

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looking for additional grant

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funding.

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Others are trying to get funding

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from their cities or counties to

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establish a permanent, sustainable

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mental health support program.

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Meanwhile, the St. David's

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Foundation is trying to spread the

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word about Libraries for Health

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beyond Central Texas.

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They say a public toolkit for the

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program posted online has

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already been downloaded over 1,000

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times.

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I'm Olivia Aldridge in Austin.

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And this is Austin Signal,

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thank you for tuning in, we'll be

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back after a break.

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This is Austin Signal, welcome

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back.

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A new episode of Vamos Verde just

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dropped and this week the crew tries

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to figure out how they're gonna get

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to this year's World Cup.

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Host Jimmy Moss and Juan Diego

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Garcia interviewed the co-creator

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of the World Cup Guide,

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Jason Daly, who's been to every

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World Cup since 2006.

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What made you create the World Cup

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guide?

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It's a great question.

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It's one I get asked all the time.

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I've been obsessed with the World

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Cup since I first saw it in 1994

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as a kid.

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It blew my mind

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that soccer

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had such a vast global

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appeal and seeing people in

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airports, etc.

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It left a massive mark.

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And then in 98,

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I was older and spent

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the summer just going from house to

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house with friends watching.

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Every match and playing in between.

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It was one of the best summers ever.

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I thought I have to get there at

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some point.

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2002 just seemed like

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an impossible task and

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then I went in 2006 with

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a friend and mentor who

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kind of gave me some guidance of

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like it seems impossible but

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what does it take?

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Probably just saving.

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So put together all my money.

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That I could and saved over a few

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years went.

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And from that moment on, I

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thought I have to do this every

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year.

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I loved it.

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And then come 2014, I started

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answering questions from

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friends, friends of

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friends. Hey, how does this work?

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How do we do it?

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And I kept repeating myself

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over and over.

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So after 2014,

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I thought to myself, I'm

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writing all this research down

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anyways, and I'm just sending the

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people.

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Let's make a website and try to

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consolidate all this information so

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anybody can

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reference it.

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So that's how it started.

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It's not a fair comparison because

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it was 32 years ago.

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But the last time that, you know,

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the U S hosted the world cup prices

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were.

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10% of what

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prices are now.

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Is that fair?

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Uh, I mean,

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well, this is not, this straight

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dollars, not adjusted as far as I

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know.

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Well, yeah, no, it's

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interesting you asked.

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So I took it upon myself

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a couple of years ago.

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So some of the frustration and

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reason why I have

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the site and what it evolved into

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is like all the information

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disappears. So you can't go

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easily and just look up, hey, how

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much were tickets in 2014?

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Right.

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And so I've just been kind

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of a nerd, just

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been documenting this

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information. And then I thought, I

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wonder how far I can go back.

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And I was mostly curious all

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the way to 94.

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So a couple of years ago, I was

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doing some digging and pulled up a

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bunch of references and articles.

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So there's an article on the site

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that has tickets since 94

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with all the references I

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found online.

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And I have two images.

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One, just straight dollars.

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And then two, if you account for

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an inflation, I think it was based

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on the consumer price index

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of December, 2025.

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That's fair Connell, a lot of the

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more recent inflation,

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and that would be correct, yeah.

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Correct. Because it was very

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frustrating for people to be like,

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oh, supply-demand.

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It's just like, well, it's kind of a

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lottery and then phases and

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then people will say, oh inflation

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is like, it won't stop that much.

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No. Yeah. Inflation was actually

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quite flat for many, many, many

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years until recently.

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So, yeah.

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So I'll just list the

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price of 94 for like a standard

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group stage game.

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Uh, your categories, cause there's

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three categories of tickets.

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If you want to dive further into

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knowing those details, but the

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cheapest category, uh,

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was $25.

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Then it was 45 and then 65

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and 94.

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Um, and from the consumer price

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index, I ran at the end of the year,

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those would equate to $55,

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$99 and $142.

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What I did is since it's

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dynamic for the 2026

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prices, what I

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did here to give like an idea

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is I took the latest price.

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So your phase three that just

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finished a couple of weeks ago,

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and then I took the

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average of all the group stage

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prices to come up with this price,

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just to have a one price comparison.

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Yeah, you need a ballpark especially

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these days with resale and all that.

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It's hard to really pinpoint

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So you went from considering

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inflation in 94 from

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00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:12,059
55 to $201

579
00:17:12,060 --> 00:17:14,259
for the cheapest,

580
00:17:14,260 --> 00:17:16,479
$99 to 433

581
00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,318
and then $142

582
00:17:18,319 --> 00:17:21,299
to 563

583
00:17:21,300 --> 00:17:23,578
for your average

584
00:17:23,579 --> 00:17:25,858
phase three FIFA supply

585
00:17:25,859 --> 00:17:27,779
ticket price, considering

586
00:17:27,780 --> 00:17:29,900
inflation from 94 to 2026.

587
00:17:30,929 --> 00:17:33,109
That is, um,

588
00:17:33,110 --> 00:17:34,229
that's massive.

589
00:17:34,230 --> 00:17:35,249
And that's not going to be cheap

590
00:17:35,250 --> 00:17:37,069
for, I mean, you're not

591
00:17:37,070 --> 00:17:38,129
just going by yourself.

592
00:17:38,130 --> 00:17:39,869
You're going to go with other

593
00:17:39,870 --> 00:17:40,709
people.

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00:17:40,710 --> 00:17:42,189
And, you know, so you got to,

595
00:17:42,190 --> 00:17:43,559
someone's got to front that money.

596
00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,299
Like I would brace myself for $140

597
00:17:46,300 --> 00:17:48,519
ticket at, you know,

598
00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,299
maybe something above what, like an

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00:17:50,300 --> 00:17:52,159
MLS going to see an MMS team

600
00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:53,759
in most like, like if they would,

601
00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:55,559
were to bring, I don't know, the U S

602
00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,439
men's national team to

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the, the Toyota center

604
00:17:59,300 --> 00:18:01,379
out in Houston or no, not that the

605
00:18:01,380 --> 00:18:03,299
energy stadium out in Houston for

606
00:18:03,300 --> 00:18:05,299
like a showcase or maybe like

607
00:18:05,300 --> 00:18:06,979
a qualifying match or something.

608
00:18:06,980 --> 00:18:09,459
$142 seems

609
00:18:09,460 --> 00:18:10,460
like...

610
00:18:11,030 --> 00:18:13,129
Something I could see myself paying

611
00:18:13,130 --> 00:18:14,799
for something like that.

612
00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,879
Yes, it, but

613
00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:19,079
there's also now there's

614
00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,080
the added that's.

615
00:18:21,140 --> 00:18:22,919
This is your face value.

616
00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:24,159
That's not right master.

617
00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:24,160
Yeah

618
00:18:24,161 --> 00:18:25,849
Yeah, like adding fees and for a

619
00:18:25,850 --> 00:18:27,709
seat geek or any of that stuff that

620
00:18:27,710 --> 00:18:28,710
yeah

621
00:18:29,730 --> 00:18:30,969
There's concerts that I would go to

622
00:18:30,970 --> 00:18:33,409
that I'd pay 142 bucks for a ticket.

623
00:18:33,410 --> 00:18:35,509
Yes. Would you go see two

624
00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:36,989
random countries that you have no

625
00:18:36,990 --> 00:18:38,109
connection to? That's a good

626
00:18:38,110 --> 00:18:39,379
question.

627
00:18:39,380 --> 00:18:41,219
I always have fun because

628
00:18:41,220 --> 00:18:43,859
people never realize how

629
00:18:43,860 --> 00:18:45,679
relatively affordable

630
00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,079
a World Cup typically is

631
00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:49,999
for a fan trying to go

632
00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:51,000
to get tickets.

633
00:18:52,300 --> 00:18:54,679
And I love asking Americans

634
00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:55,919
like, Hey, why don't you guess how

635
00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:58,259
much this ticket is?

636
00:18:58,260 --> 00:19:00,179
And I'm looking at

637
00:19:00,180 --> 00:19:02,119
the prices and history and I

638
00:19:02,120 --> 00:19:04,119
even have my

639
00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:06,139
tickets here from 2022 to

640
00:19:06,140 --> 00:19:07,999
reference but you

641
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,009
know I I was

642
00:19:10,010 --> 00:19:12,189
given a first row seat

643
00:19:12,190 --> 00:19:14,009
to Brazil versus Switzerland

644
00:19:14,010 --> 00:19:15,190
in 2022.

645
00:19:16,550 --> 00:19:18,609
In today's dollars, I

646
00:19:18,610 --> 00:19:20,449
paid $75 for that

647
00:19:20,450 --> 00:19:22,709
ticket. Yeah, yeah now

648
00:19:22,710 --> 00:19:24,549
you can't get that ticket for

649
00:19:24,550 --> 00:19:26,669
you know, if we're using this

650
00:19:26,670 --> 00:19:27,670
$563, yeah

651
00:19:28,759 --> 00:19:30,859
And that's, is

652
00:19:30,860 --> 00:19:32,679
that, are we isolating that

653
00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,299
too, just because of where it's

654
00:19:34,300 --> 00:19:36,379
being held or is that because

655
00:19:36,380 --> 00:19:38,399
of, where the sport

656
00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:39,600
is moving in general?

657
00:19:41,250 --> 00:19:43,129
I think it's both,

658
00:19:43,130 --> 00:19:44,009
sadly.

659
00:19:44,010 --> 00:19:46,169
Yeah, this hobby that

660
00:19:46,170 --> 00:19:48,329
I've had for my life could

661
00:19:48,330 --> 00:19:50,429
be ending after this one if

662
00:19:50,430 --> 00:19:52,329
FIFA continues to price tickets

663
00:19:52,330 --> 00:19:53,330
at this level.

664
00:19:54,650 --> 00:19:56,469
It just starts to get to a point

665
00:19:56,470 --> 00:19:57,349
where if you're going to bring

666
00:19:57,350 --> 00:19:59,609
someone with you or your family,

667
00:19:59,610 --> 00:20:00,549
you're just like, I don't know if

668
00:20:00,550 --> 00:20:01,630
this is worth it anymore.

669
00:20:03,190 --> 00:20:04,969
Plus you were saying how you you

670
00:20:04,970 --> 00:20:07,289
save up over four years if

671
00:20:07,290 --> 00:20:09,489
we're talking

672
00:20:09,490 --> 00:20:11,329
Multiple thousands of dollars to go

673
00:20:11,330 --> 00:20:13,249
to on this kind of trip now.

674
00:20:13,250 --> 00:20:15,249
You have to save up even longer or

675
00:20:15,250 --> 00:20:16,509
put more more.

676
00:20:16,510 --> 00:20:17,510
Yeah

677
00:20:17,730 --> 00:20:19,369
And it's like, you know, in the U S

678
00:20:19,370 --> 00:20:21,189
it's not like you get much time off.

679
00:20:21,190 --> 00:20:23,449
So, uh, is this when

680
00:20:23,450 --> 00:20:25,449
you know you and your spouse decide,

681
00:20:25,450 --> 00:20:26,509
Hey, we're both going to take off

682
00:20:26,510 --> 00:20:27,349
time for work.

683
00:20:27,350 --> 00:20:28,969
We're going to pick the kids.

684
00:20:28,970 --> 00:20:30,729
Is this like, are we getting the

685
00:20:30,730 --> 00:20:32,509
value for the money with the kids?

686
00:20:32,510 --> 00:20:33,929
Um, if you're going have to be

687
00:20:33,930 --> 00:20:36,789
paying like 500 plus, uh

688
00:20:36,790 --> 00:20:38,649
a ticket for everyone to go to

689
00:20:38,650 --> 00:20:39,650
a match.

690
00:20:40,630 --> 00:20:42,689
And that is just the cost of

691
00:20:42,690 --> 00:20:43,689
tickets.

692
00:20:43,690 --> 00:20:45,169
And just a taste of what's in the

693
00:20:45,170 --> 00:20:46,909
latest episode, Jason also talks

694
00:20:46,910 --> 00:20:49,069
about hotels and travel,

695
00:20:49,070 --> 00:20:51,349
all other kinds of considerations.

696
00:20:51,350 --> 00:20:52,929
And we even hear how Stephanie

697
00:20:52,930 --> 00:20:54,929
Federico, editor of KUT's

698
00:20:54,930 --> 00:20:56,769
Art Beat, found herself at a

699
00:20:56,770 --> 00:20:58,829
World Cup game in Boston.

700
00:20:58,830 --> 00:20:59,789
We're gonna have a link to the full

701
00:20:59,790 --> 00:21:01,629
episode in today's show notes and at

702
00:21:01,630 --> 00:21:03,669
kut.org slash

703
00:21:03,670 --> 00:21:04,670
signal.

704
00:21:10,580 --> 00:21:12,399
The Texas men's basketball team are

705
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,979
in their second win of this year's

706
00:21:13,980 --> 00:21:15,859
NCAA tournament last night, beating

707
00:21:15,860 --> 00:21:17,779
the BYU Cougars.

708
00:21:17,780 --> 00:21:19,439
The Longhorns advance to the round

709
00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:21,479
of 32, setting up a Saturday

710
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,219
night matchup against the

711
00:21:23,220 --> 00:21:24,779
three-seeded Gonzaga.

712
00:21:24,780 --> 00:21:26,579
Texas has defeated the Wolf Pack,

713
00:21:26,580 --> 00:21:28,599
the Cougers, and now they go up

714
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:29,759
against the Bulldogs.

715
00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,559
Tip-off tomorrow night is scheduled

716
00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,479
for a few minutes past 6

717
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:34,969
o'clock local time.

718
00:21:34,970 --> 00:21:36,769
And action in the women's tournament

719
00:21:36,770 --> 00:21:38,109
tipped off today and it's happening

720
00:21:38,110 --> 00:21:39,969
right down the street from us here

721
00:21:39,970 --> 00:21:41,649
at the Moody Center.

722
00:21:41,650 --> 00:21:43,909
Oregon has an early lead on Virginia

723
00:21:43,910 --> 00:21:45,449
Tech and that game will be followed

724
00:21:45,450 --> 00:21:47,389
up by the one seeded Texas

725
00:21:47,390 --> 00:21:49,889
Longhorns taking on Missouri State.

726
00:21:49,890 --> 00:21:51,789
The Longhors have lots of postseason

727
00:21:51,790 --> 00:21:53,569
experience on this year's roster

728
00:21:53,570 --> 00:21:55,289
thanks to players like fifth year

729
00:21:55,290 --> 00:21:56,769
senior Rory Harmon.

730
00:21:56,770 --> 00:21:58,469
Let's hear from her.

731
00:21:58,470 --> 00:22:00,289
In the back of my head, I do

732
00:22:00,290 --> 00:22:02,429
think about how it is my last run.

733
00:22:02,430 --> 00:22:03,789
But I try not to put too much

734
00:22:03,790 --> 00:22:05,809
emotions about that part, it

735
00:22:05,810 --> 00:22:07,049
being the last.

736
00:22:07,050 --> 00:22:08,569
You just wanna be in the moment,

737
00:22:08,570 --> 00:22:09,829
don't get tied up in too much

738
00:22:09,830 --> 00:22:10,669
emotion.

739
00:22:10,670 --> 00:22:13,009
Just play like it is, understand

740
00:22:13,010 --> 00:22:15,169
I don't have another opportunity

741
00:22:15,170 --> 00:22:16,069
to do it.

742
00:22:16,070 --> 00:22:17,969
But I just wanna stay in the moments

743
00:22:17,970 --> 00:22:19,689
where my feet are at and enjoy my

744
00:22:19,690 --> 00:22:21,269
time with my teammates.

745
00:22:21,270 --> 00:22:22,889
The Longhorns and the Lady Bears are

746
00:22:22,890 --> 00:22:24,389
scheduled to tip off this afternoon

747
00:22:24,390 --> 00:22:25,909
at 3 o'clock.

748
00:22:25,910 --> 00:22:27,709
The winners of today's game will be

749
00:22:27,710 --> 00:22:29,589
back at the Moody Center on Sunday

750
00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:31,489
to play for a spot in

751
00:22:31,490 --> 00:22:33,689
the Sweet 16.

752
00:22:33,690 --> 00:22:35,589
That about does it for us today and

753
00:22:35,590 --> 00:22:37,809
this week here on Austin Signal,

754
00:22:37,810 --> 00:22:39,429
thank you so much for making us part

755
00:22:39,430 --> 00:22:41,369
of your every day here

756
00:22:41,370 --> 00:22:43,409
in Austin. We appreciate you tuning

757
00:22:43,410 --> 00:22:44,189
in.

758
00:22:44,190 --> 00:22:46,249
Thank you to our crew, Rayna Sevilla

759
00:22:46,250 --> 00:22:48,209
is our technical director and

760
00:22:48,210 --> 00:22:50,249
Kristen Cabrera is our managing

761
00:22:50,250 --> 00:22:51,239
producer.

762
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,179
I'm your host Jerry Quijano, have a

763
00:22:53,180 --> 00:22:55,039
lovely weekend, we will talk to

764
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,040
you on Monday.

