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considering an outside nonprofit to

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handle three of its middle schools

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with chronic failing grades.

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Another failing grade for these

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campuses would give the Texas

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Education Agency the authority to

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take over the district as a whole.

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More about community meetings

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happening this week and the Texas

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Attorney General has notified AISD

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of a complaint alleging the district

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violated the state's bathroom bill.

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More about those stories coming up

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on today's show.

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The Austin Signal is a production

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of KUT News, hosted by

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Jerry Quijano.

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Plus, South by Southwest officially

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kicks off tomorrow, but the

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unofficial showcases and house shows

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have plenty to offer up as well.

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Come hear about one benefiting a

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women's correctional facility here

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in the Austin area.

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Those stories and a whole lot more,

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up next on Austin Signal.

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Howdy out there!

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You are tuned in to Austin

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I'm your host, Jerry Quijano.

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It is the 11th day of March,

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thank you for making us part of your

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day. We started out our Wednesday

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with showers and thunderstorms here

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in Austin and across the area.

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rain is leaving us for a good chunk

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of time with some warmer days ahead.

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forecasting a high right above 90

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degrees on Sunday, BYE BUD In

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classic Texas fashion, the high just

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We will of course keep you updated

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on the latest right here

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on Austin Signal.

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Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton

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has notified the Austin Independent

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School District of an alleged

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violation of Senate Bill 8,

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colloquially known as the Bathroom

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Bill, limiting transgender Texans'

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use of public bathrooms in

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government buildings.

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first major enforcement action of

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the new state law, and comes after

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another investigation the AG's

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office said it planned against AISD.

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For more, we're joined now by Acacia

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Coronado. She is the education

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reporter for Austin Current, KUT's

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collaborator on The Signal,

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and a partner with KUT newsroom in

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covering Austin.

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Welcome back to the show, Acacia.

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Thanks for having me.

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So let's talk about this alleged

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violation, what's in

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general's office, the violation

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states that a

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student used a restroom that is

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not consistent with their sex

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at birth.

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was made to the AG's office.

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said they were investigating this

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because they received a complaint

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through the tip line that the

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attorney's general's office set up

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to report these things once

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the law went into effect in

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now, what are the penalties

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associated for violating

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in Senate Bill 8 say that it's

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a $25,000 violation

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fee for the first time

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fee for subsequent violations.

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Austin ISD was given according to

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the attorney general's office was

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that it will incur a $5,000

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penalty per day that the violation

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this complaint was filed against?

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attorney general's office statement,

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from Austin ISD officials in regards

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to this

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alleged complaint?

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the options AISD board members

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are considering for three schools

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with continued failing grades.

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Can you remind us what schools those

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are and what is being considered

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for them?

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Webb, and Doeby Middle Schools, and

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it was added to

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their schedule for Thursday's

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information meeting that the board

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hosts to

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discuss the possibility of

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partnering with Texas Council for

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International Studies, who

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has also brought on Region

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1 Education Service Center as an

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advising partner.

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What do we know about this group and

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their history with schools here in

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Texas?

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Texas Council for International

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districts including Edgewood,

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Longview and San Antonio ISDs.

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listed on their websites are

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partnerships under the SB 1882

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program, which allows districts

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to partner with

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outside organizations to operate a

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school, either for innovation

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might be failing for continuous

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years. Okay.

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partnerships across the state,

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schools in San Antonio

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still at a lower

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rating, and they also

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include schools that have

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kind of improved and gone down

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and improved and go down.

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for this kind of initiative?

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clear yet on whether there

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were other groups considered.

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district how many groups

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applied to operate the

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three middle schools.

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sent to an attorney general's ruling

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on whether that information can

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be released because the district

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said that their bid process

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is technically not closed until they

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for the contract.

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still waiting to find out out of

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how many they selected them and

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what made them the

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new consideration?

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being held at all three of the

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middle schools for the parents

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of those middle schools later today.

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board meeting, there's still

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the public comment section at

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the beginning of the board meetings.

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little bit of this process to be

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How soon might a plan like this

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move forward or how soon do

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officials hope that they might be

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able to put this kind of plan into

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for one of these partnerships is

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their partner and apply with their

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partner by then.

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on March 26th, which

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that they will take the vote,

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whether to move forward or not with

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be in the next school year.

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We have been talking with Acacia

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Coronado, she is the education

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reporter for Austin Current, KUT's

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collaborator on the Austin Signal,

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and a partner with KUT Newsroom in

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covering the city. Thank you for

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your reporting, Acacia.

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Thank you so much for having me.

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This is Austin Signal, thank you for

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tuning in. Since the start of the

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second Trump administration,

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immigration crackdowns have been in

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the news and affecting communities

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and families across the nation, as

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well as right here in Texas.

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Austin-based documentarian Louise

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von Asa has taken a closer look at

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this by talking with the folks being

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directly affected.

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She's the director of the new

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documentary Ice America's

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Hunt for Migrants.

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Louise, thank for being here with us

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on Austin Signal.

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Thank you for having me.

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host of the Tacos of Texas podcast.

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well. Mando, thanks for coming on

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The Signal. Happy to be back.

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Louise, I'm gonna start with you.

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Obviously ICE detentions and

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ICE activities have been in the

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news for the last number

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What made you want to document

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what's happening with US

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immigration, particularly here in

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to have this idea for a documentary

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back in I believe it was March,

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I was in Europe because I'm

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in the United States, it was

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I feel like I need to tell

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because we worked together on the

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podcast, listened to his story

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and then, you know, talked to

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Network in Belgium and then started

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making that documentary.

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Yeah, speaking of that story, Mando,

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you are affected by this as

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well.

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Your story is shared in the doc.

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Can you tell us a little bit about

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that experience?

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Yeah, yeah.

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During the first Trump

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administration,

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you know, I was petitioning for my

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wife.

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She's originally from Honduras.

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And we're kind of at the last

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part of the interview

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process.

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And I turn over my birth

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certificate and the ICE agent there

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says that basically turns it around

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and says, well, we're going to have

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to do an investigation on you

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because you were born along

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the border in the 70s.

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And it was

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caught off guard, caught surprise.

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Quickly after that, you know,

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I mean, I'm a US citizen.

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Case anybody ask.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And back then,

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you know, during the first Trump

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administration, they were

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specifically targeting people born

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along the border.

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And so I

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reapplied for my passport

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and then it was denied.

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And so for four years, I

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was basically stateless.

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I had to prove I was a U.S.

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Citizen, which was

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crazy.

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Yeah, Louise, in your documentary

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you speak with a DACA recipient who

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was detained in El Paso at

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the airport ahead of a work trip.

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She managed to capture her

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interactions with ICE officials and

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let her partner know that an ICE

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official had taken her DACA card and

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was not giving it back.

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Let's listen to a brief clip from

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that documentary highlighting those

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interactions.

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Okay, I'm asking you some

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immigration documents here,

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do you have a visa?

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Have a work permit.

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What you have in hand is my work

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authorization.

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I'll see you on the far side, okay?

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Sochil is allowed to live and work

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legally in the US under DACA,

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a program that protects people who

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were brought here as children.

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Go ahead, go through screening.

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I'll see you on the first side. Do

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you not want to take your airplane
ride?

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Are you threatening me?

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No, I'm not threatening you.

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I'm asking you, do you want to take

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your airplane ride? If you do, go

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though screening.

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When I saw the message, I didn't

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know what had happened.

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I was kind of like waiting to hear

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from her and then I texted her back

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like, what happened, did they let

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you on the plane?

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Go ahead and turn off your phone,

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you can come in with those answers,

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okay? For what?

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We're going to question you in

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regards to your documents.

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What's the questioning for?

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Don't do all the talk about it.

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What's the questioning for?

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Uh, how do you, how you got the

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format authorization?

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I need to have my lawyer here.

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That's right

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I can wait for my lawyer.

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While you can't see your lawyer,

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let's just go by plane ticket.

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So we're already past screening, so

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it doesn't work that way.

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We're gonna go downstairs.

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Okay, Louise, how did you connect

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with Xochitl?

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Um, actually, um, I got

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connected with a journalist up in El

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Paso, a friend, and

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then he told me, Hey, you should

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check out this case, which I had

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already read about it, but then he

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connected us and then, um

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we were able to, uh, speak to

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the, to such hills partner Desiree

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and I found their

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story.

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These are such innocent people.

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Like they're literally working

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on a community farm.

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They love flowers.

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They're like such sweet people.

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And they're caught up in the system.

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And we really wanted to show like,

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who are all these people that

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are being swept up with this like

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hard immigration crackdown because

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it's not like what they were

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promoting. It's like, we're going

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after, you know, the worst of the

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worst.

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Well, we're going to have a link to

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the documentary in our podcast show

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notes for today.

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I wanted to also ask you about

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Amanda, this attorney that you

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talk to and share her

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story.

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How did you get connected with her

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and what was that experience like?

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I actually got connected through her

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through an event that Mando had

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organized together with American

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Gateways.

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Through that organization, I was

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looking for an immigration lawyer

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because we wanted to follow,

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we wanted to see what the work looks

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like on the ground.

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And she was like, Amanda, she's

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amazing. She's like young, full of

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energy. She has her own immigration

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story with her own family.

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And she's like really out there

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working and trying to get those

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stories out. And so we thought that

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she would be an amazing person

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too. To follow.

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Yeah, and I thought it was really

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powerful because in the story or

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in the documentary, it's mentioned

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that we are seeing lots of

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ICE activities taking place on

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streets and people being detained

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that way.

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But what Amanda is doing, it's kind

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of in plain sight out just in

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a regular building, right?

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Yeah.

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Yeah. Yeah. That was something that

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like really hit me hard.

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So we filmed the scene at an

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ice check-in in San Antonio.

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And people are just waiting there

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because they have like their regular

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ice check in.

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So everybody's just waiting on

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chairs and then you get called in.

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And if those people stay in,

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that probably means they're

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detained. And if not, they're

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free to go and they have to come

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back in like another month or year

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or whatever the term is.

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But to me, it was so like,

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it really touched me how

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all of this is like you because

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you know, we've seen like all the

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violent videos all around

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us. I mean, we're flooded with it

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and the protests in response as

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well. Yeah, but this was so

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happening so quietly and

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such like it was almost like

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a machine. It was just routine.

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I want to turn it over to you.

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I know you have done some reporting.

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You've been on the Texas Standard

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talking about this as well You've

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seen the impacts of immigration

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enforcement or even just the

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threat of this type of enforcement

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on the community here in Austin What

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have you seen or what have you

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heard?

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I mean, I think people are scared.

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I think that there's a different

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culture. We're in a red state,

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right? Even though we live in

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Austin, there's the culture of

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compliance.

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There's a culture of just

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don't make waves, don't makes

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noise, and I think that's why we

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haven't seen a lot of protests here

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in central Texas,

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unlike Minneapolis, right.

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But people are scary, but they're

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trying to figure out, okay, well,

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how do I take my children

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to school?

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And being aware or

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you know, if they're street vendors,

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how do I look out for some things?

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Where's this safe place that I can

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sell my food or either go

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to work or or or buy

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food, you know So I think there's

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definitely there's a lot

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of people that are wanting to

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mobilize that are mobilizing But

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it's kind of under the radar

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Even though like we haven't

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seen a lot of activity in central

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Texas, you see that on the outskirts

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of town for sure but

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um, yeah people are

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definitely scared

526
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Okay, Luis, is there anything else

527
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about the documentary, about putting

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it together, anything else that I

529
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haven't asked you about that you

530
00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:46,549
would like to speak about?

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I am an immigrant myself to this

532
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country, right? I came here from

533
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Belgium, from Europe, and

534
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it took me five years

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to get my citizenship.

536
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I got it last year in April.

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And I thought it was a pain in the

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ass to get it.

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And then making this,

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listening to all these stories,

541
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realizing how people are waiting 20

542
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years, you know,

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and still no

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movement in their case.

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I never worried about this and I

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guess I just realized what

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privilege I have just being from

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Europe.

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As an immigrant, were you scared to

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cover this topic?

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As a black person, yes, for sure.

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And I worked with, I didn't do this

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by myself. I worked like a white guy

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from Belgium, Kunti and I, he's

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really talented.

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And we made sure that he was

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always right by my

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side. And also if we had questions,

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because we did have like law

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enforcement asking us what we were

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doing, he would always be answering.

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And it definitely makes a difference

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if I'm by myself or if I am with

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like another person of color or if

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am with a white person.

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Yes, and I did have a conversation

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with my husband about this and

568
00:16:55,460 --> 00:16:56,699
with Manu and with all the people

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that were featured in the

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documentary.

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Because right now you can watch the

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documentary on YouTube.

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And at first it was geo-blogged so

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you could only watch it in Europe.

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And then we decided to not

576
00:17:07,300 --> 00:17:08,879
do that anymore because honestly I

577
00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:10,139
was scared as well for

578
00:17:10,140 --> 00:17:11,679
repercussions.

579
00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,358
I still am, but I think it's like

580
00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:14,459
what Manu said earlier.

581
00:17:14,460 --> 00:17:15,838
You need to speak up and you need to

582
00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:17,479
do your part.

583
00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:18,899
And I guess part of it is being

584
00:17:18,900 --> 00:17:19,900
brave.

585
00:17:20,730 --> 00:17:23,629
In some way or form, yeah.

586
00:17:23,630 --> 00:17:25,129
Well, we've been speaking with Luis

587
00:17:25,130 --> 00:17:26,649
Van Assa, director of the new

588
00:17:26,650 --> 00:17:28,429
documentary, Short Ice America's

589
00:17:28,430 --> 00:17:30,429
Hunt for Migrants, as well as Mando

590
00:17:30,430 --> 00:17:32,109
Rayo, host of the Tacos of Texas

591
00:17:32,110 --> 00:17:33,589
podcast who's featured in that

592
00:17:33,590 --> 00:17:34,849
documentary as well.

593
00:17:34,850 --> 00:17:36,269
Again, the 30-minute documentary is

594
00:17:36,270 --> 00:17:37,689
available to watch on YouTube.

595
00:17:37,690 --> 00:17:38,949
We're gonna have a link to the doc

596
00:17:38,950 --> 00:17:41,809
in the show notes and at kut.org

597
00:17:41,810 --> 00:17:43,129
slash signal.

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00:17:43,130 --> 00:17:44,269
Luis, Mando, thank you for your

599
00:17:44,270 --> 00:17:45,089
time. Thanks, Jerry.

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00:17:45,090 --> 00:17:46,609
Thank you so much.

601
00:17:46,610 --> 00:17:48,429
And thank you out there, forcemen,

602
00:17:48,430 --> 00:17:50,029
and part of your day here with us.

603
00:17:50,030 --> 00:17:51,409
This is Austin Signal.

604
00:17:51,410 --> 00:17:53,269
We'll be back after a break.

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This is Austin Signal, welcome back.

606
00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,039
Music lovers who do not have a badge

607
00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,899
to go to SXSW shows

608
00:18:04,900 --> 00:18:06,779
this year can still take advantage

609
00:18:06,780 --> 00:18:08,859
of dozens of unofficial events

610
00:18:08,860 --> 00:18:10,439
and house shows happening across

611
00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:11,739
town.

612
00:18:11,740 --> 00:18:13,879
For KUT's Artbeat, Ella Kopekin

613
00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,759
reports on one unofficial show

614
00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,659
that benefits people who can't

615
00:18:17,660 --> 00:18:19,180
attend the festival at all.

616
00:18:20,550 --> 00:18:21,929
Every year during South by

617
00:18:21,930 --> 00:18:23,589
Southwest, local bookers put

618
00:18:23,590 --> 00:18:25,609
together unofficial music showcases

619
00:18:25,610 --> 00:18:26,909
around Austin.

620
00:18:26,910 --> 00:18:28,589
Nicholas Reyes is the organizer of

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00:18:28,590 --> 00:18:30,269
one showcase in East Austin that

622
00:18:30,270 --> 00:18:31,929
raises money for the Texas Prison

623
00:18:31,930 --> 00:18:33,509
Education Initiative.

624
00:18:33,510 --> 00:18:35,549
It feels like an oasis from

625
00:18:35,550 --> 00:18:36,709
the festival.

626
00:18:36,710 --> 00:18:38,049
Artists to get to see friends from

627
00:18:38,050 --> 00:18:39,149
out of town. Everyone kind of knows

628
00:18:39,150 --> 00:18:41,679
each other. It's very communal.

629
00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:43,179
The initiative, commonly called

630
00:18:43,180 --> 00:18:45,339
TPAY, is an education program

631
00:18:45,340 --> 00:18:47,379
at a women's prison in Lockhart.

632
00:18:47,380 --> 00:18:48,699
The classes are all taught by

633
00:18:48,700 --> 00:18:50,319
volunteer professors and graduate

634
00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:52,659
students from UT, like Reyes,

635
00:18:52,660 --> 00:18:54,179
an assistant math professor.

636
00:18:54,180 --> 00:18:55,719
He became a volunteer teacher at the

637
00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,299
prison in 2019.

638
00:18:57,300 --> 00:18:58,939
I love the students, that's my

639
00:18:58,940 --> 00:19:00,339
favorite aspect of it.

640
00:19:00,340 --> 00:19:02,259
Reyes is also an established fixture

641
00:19:02,260 --> 00:19:03,879
of the Austin music scene.

642
00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:05,739
Known as Nicky Christmas, he started

643
00:19:05,740 --> 00:19:07,179
playing around town while he was a

644
00:19:07,180 --> 00:19:08,259
UT student.

645
00:19:08,260 --> 00:19:10,179
Before COVID, Reyes hosted a free,

646
00:19:10,180 --> 00:19:12,079
unofficial South By Music Showcase

647
00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,019
every year.

648
00:19:13,020 --> 00:19:14,479
The official South by organization

649
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:16,479
brings in a lot of people from

650
00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:17,619
out of town.

651
00:19:17,620 --> 00:19:19,439
The unofficial showcases

652
00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:20,519
just give the bands more

653
00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,719
opportunities to play more shows.

654
00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:23,919
And this was just the biggest thing

655
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,149
that I threw every year.

656
00:19:25,150 --> 00:19:27,009
In 2022, he decided to

657
00:19:27,010 --> 00:19:28,549
make the show a fundraiser for

658
00:19:28,550 --> 00:19:30,369
T-Pay. The aim is to get as many

659
00:19:30,370 --> 00:19:31,989
donations as possible.

660
00:19:31,990 --> 00:19:33,489
The money raised is divided.

661
00:19:33,490 --> 00:19:34,749
About two-thirds goes to the

662
00:19:34,750 --> 00:19:36,309
musicians, and the rest goes to

663
00:19:36,310 --> 00:19:36,929
T-pay.

664
00:19:36,930 --> 00:19:38,469
Sometimes bands will just donate

665
00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:40,669
their portion to TPEI.

666
00:19:40,670 --> 00:19:42,509
Dorothy Rao is T-Pay's program

667
00:19:42,510 --> 00:19:44,769
coordinator and only paid employee.

668
00:19:44,770 --> 00:19:46,769
They said the Texas Prison Education

669
00:19:46,770 --> 00:19:48,769
Initiative depends entirely on

670
00:19:48,770 --> 00:19:50,969
outside funding to operate.

671
00:19:50,970 --> 00:19:53,129
Calculators, notebooks, pens,

672
00:19:53,130 --> 00:19:53,929
pencils.

673
00:19:53,930 --> 00:19:54,969
We have about a hundred students

674
00:19:54,970 --> 00:19:55,869
every semester.

675
00:19:55,870 --> 00:19:56,669
And the other thing we have to pay

676
00:19:56,670 --> 00:19:58,429
for is to register them at the

677
00:19:58,430 --> 00:19:59,389
university.

678
00:19:59,390 --> 00:20:01,249
So we're paying to register each

679
00:20:01,250 --> 00:20:02,989
student so that they can get that

680
00:20:02,990 --> 00:20:04,349
college credit and that college

681
00:20:04,350 --> 00:20:05,849
transcript once they get out.

682
00:20:05,850 --> 00:20:07,549
The program helps students land on

683
00:20:07,550 --> 00:20:07,979
their feet.

684
00:20:07,980 --> 00:20:09,179
When they get out of prison.

685
00:20:09,180 --> 00:20:10,659
So after they leave, they can

686
00:20:10,660 --> 00:20:12,479
request a transcript from UT and

687
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,399
they can either use this to continue

688
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,579
their education or to

689
00:20:16,580 --> 00:20:18,619
show experience and job applications

690
00:20:18,620 --> 00:20:19,919
and also just to like build their

691
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:21,139
confidence and have something they

692
00:20:21,140 --> 00:20:23,239
enjoy in an environment where

693
00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,239
there's often a

694
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:26,240
lack of...

695
00:20:26,810 --> 00:20:28,449
Reyes knew his concert would have a

696
00:20:28,450 --> 00:20:30,369
bigger audience thanks to South By,

697
00:20:30,370 --> 00:20:31,769
and that could translate to more

698
00:20:31,770 --> 00:20:33,389
donations for T-Pay.

699
00:20:33,390 --> 00:20:35,289
I thought that it would be nice to

700
00:20:35,290 --> 00:20:36,529
set up donations.

701
00:20:36,530 --> 00:20:38,189
It goes a long way towards buying

702
00:20:38,190 --> 00:20:39,229
school supplies.

703
00:20:39,230 --> 00:20:40,809
Rao attended the benefit for the

704
00:20:40,810 --> 00:20:42,529
first time in 2024.

705
00:20:42,530 --> 00:20:43,629
There were a bunch of cool bands,

706
00:20:43,630 --> 00:20:45,009
the vibes, the building, it just

707
00:20:45,010 --> 00:20:46,349
feels so old school Austin and the

708
00:20:46,350 --> 00:20:47,449
way I love.

709
00:20:47,450 --> 00:20:48,909
Sunday's lineup at the Sahara Lounge

710
00:20:48,910 --> 00:20:50,569
will feature bands exclusively from

711
00:20:50,570 --> 00:20:52,069
Texas and New York.

712
00:20:52,070 --> 00:20:53,989
The first three years, we had a big

713
00:20:53,990 --> 00:20:55,689
contingency of Mexican bands, but

714
00:20:55,690 --> 00:20:57,009
those bands are not traveling to

715
00:20:57,010 --> 00:20:58,178
Texas anymore.

716
00:20:58,179 --> 00:20:59,799
Fewer acts from outside the U.S.

717
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:01,099
Playing the festival means more

718
00:21:01,100 --> 00:21:02,939
local bands filling in.

719
00:21:02,940 --> 00:21:04,779
Matt Galsadon is a singer and the

720
00:21:04,780 --> 00:21:06,599
lead guitarist for Queen Serene,

721
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,199
one of the five Austin bands on the

722
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,319
bill for the show.

723
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:10,679
It just seems like less bands are

724
00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:11,999
coming into town now.

725
00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:13,419
The lineups are a little bit more

726
00:21:13,420 --> 00:21:15,499
low key. It is feeling a little more

727
00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:17,359
like it's a locals kind of

728
00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:18,619
festival again.

729
00:21:18,620 --> 00:21:20,139
As opposed to like being like this

730
00:21:20,140 --> 00:21:21,649
giant international thing.

731
00:21:21,650 --> 00:21:24,009
Sarah Ronan, the band's lead singer,

732
00:21:24,010 --> 00:21:25,829
said unofficial South By shows feel

733
00:21:25,830 --> 00:21:27,579
more community-oriented.

734
00:21:27,580 --> 00:21:29,419
Friends always come out, the

735
00:21:29,420 --> 00:21:31,959
lineups are actually curated,

736
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:33,739
and there's just heart and soul

737
00:21:33,740 --> 00:21:34,999
actually put into it.

738
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:36,599
It feels like that's what South By

739
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:37,919
was supposed to be.

740
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,759
The prison education program used to

741
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,039
rely heavily on grant money, but now

742
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,339
funding is mostly donation-based.

743
00:21:44,340 --> 00:21:45,779
Rao says that's why the concert is

744
00:21:45,780 --> 00:21:47,059
so important.

745
00:21:47,060 --> 00:21:48,879
Organization like this is really

746
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,339
hard to sustain.

747
00:21:50,340 --> 00:21:51,659
Fundraising is really hard and it

748
00:21:51,660 --> 00:21:52,919
takes away a lot of time and energy

749
00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:54,639
that can be put towards other things

750
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:56,539
like teaching and like getting

751
00:21:56,540 --> 00:21:57,959
new volunteers and starting new

752
00:21:57,960 --> 00:21:58,899
classes.

753
00:21:58,900 --> 00:22:00,029
The benefit show is one of.

754
00:22:00,030 --> 00:22:01,869
Two yearly fundraisers for T-Pay

755
00:22:01,870 --> 00:22:03,309
and the only one in person.

756
00:22:03,310 --> 00:22:03,979
Just being able to f-

757
00:22:03,980 --> 00:22:06,039
confident in our

758
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,939
financial stability to be able to

759
00:22:07,940 --> 00:22:09,239
continue to do what we're already

760
00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:10,809
doing would be really amazing.

761
00:22:10,810 --> 00:22:12,269
Reyes wants to keep putting on the

762
00:22:12,270 --> 00:22:14,229
annual showcase indefinitely,

763
00:22:14,230 --> 00:22:15,649
maybe even a few times a year.

764
00:22:15,650 --> 00:22:17,069
I'll be doing this every South by

765
00:22:17,070 --> 00:22:19,669
Southwest forever.

766
00:22:19,670 --> 00:22:21,829
I am hoping to do a

767
00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:23,589
counterpoint to this event in

768
00:22:23,590 --> 00:22:24,309
winter.

769
00:22:24,310 --> 00:22:26,289
And the TPAY leadership is just as

770
00:22:26,290 --> 00:22:27,909
invested in keeping the event going

771
00:22:27,910 --> 00:22:29,069
as Reyes.

772
00:22:29,070 --> 00:22:29,959
Getting to.

773
00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:31,799
See so many bands I like,

774
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,619
be with my friends, and

775
00:22:33,620 --> 00:22:35,419
support an organization that I

776
00:22:35,420 --> 00:22:36,839
really care about is like such a

777
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,499
beautiful combination, a beautiful

778
00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:39,779
soup of everything that I like about

779
00:22:39,780 --> 00:22:40,559
Austin.

780
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,079
A South By show that's just as much

781
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,739
about the people playing as the

782
00:22:43,740 --> 00:22:45,659
cause they're playing for.

783
00:22:45,660 --> 00:22:47,519
For KUT's Artbeat, I'm Ella

784
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:48,520
Kopeikin.

785
00:22:53,370 --> 00:22:55,389
South by Southwest EDU

786
00:22:55,390 --> 00:22:57,069
is underway right now.

787
00:22:57,070 --> 00:22:58,749
South by SouthWest Conference and

788
00:22:58,750 --> 00:23:00,769
festivals run from tomorrow through

789
00:23:00,770 --> 00:23:02,049
next Wednesday.

790
00:23:02,050 --> 00:23:03,809
You can keep up with more art beat

791
00:23:03,810 --> 00:23:07,189
coverage at KUT.org.

792
00:23:07,190 --> 00:23:08,809
And our colleagues at KU-TX are

793
00:23:08,810 --> 00:23:10,729
gearing up for day one

794
00:23:10,730 --> 00:23:12,229
out at Schultz Garden.

795
00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:14,089
Doors open up at 730 in

796
00:23:14,090 --> 00:23:16,089
the morning with music starting at

797
00:23:16,090 --> 00:23:18,069
8 o'clock with Quinton, an Austin

798
00:23:18,070 --> 00:23:20,059
artist. Speaking of those

799
00:23:20,060 --> 00:23:21,559
Austin artists, you know, kind of

800
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,199
re-emerging at South By.

801
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,579
We're going to start off the music

802
00:23:24,580 --> 00:23:26,299
with an Austin artist.

803
00:23:26,300 --> 00:23:28,199
It's a $10 entry, which directly

804
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:29,759
benefits the Central Texas Food

805
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:31,319
Bank. That means you get to do

806
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,419
something good and take in some good

807
00:23:33,420 --> 00:23:34,719
tunes as well.

808
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:35,759
And that's just the beginning of

809
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,599
what they have planned for South By

810
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,179
Southwest. You can check out all the

811
00:23:39,180 --> 00:23:41,699
details at kutx.org.

812
00:23:41,700 --> 00:23:43,179
Also, it's just the beginning of

813
00:23:43,180 --> 00:23:44,599
what's happening out at Schultz

814
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,119
Garden tomorrow There's gonna be

815
00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:48,099
live music from 8 until

816
00:23:48,100 --> 00:23:50,119
11 o'clock and then the

817
00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:52,159
Austin signal is going live out

818
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,199
at Shultz garden tomorrow It's

819
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,459
a one-hour live special show.

820
00:23:56,460 --> 00:23:58,539
It's free open to the public You

821
00:23:58,540 --> 00:24:00,439
can come out here from some of the

822
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,519
great people that we're gonna be

823
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,529
talking to currently slated

824
00:24:03,530 --> 00:24:05,509
to speak with Shaky Graves and

825
00:24:05,510 --> 00:24:07,409
Kid Jones, as well as some chefs

826
00:24:07,410 --> 00:24:09,309
from La Santa Barbacha,

827
00:24:09,310 --> 00:24:11,909
Ramen Del Barrio, and Die Due,

828
00:24:11,910 --> 00:24:13,549
and director and producer of a

829
00:24:13,550 --> 00:24:15,129
documentary that is premiering here

830
00:24:15,130 --> 00:24:16,729
at South By.

831
00:24:16,730 --> 00:24:18,189
Lots happening again.

832
00:24:18,190 --> 00:24:19,989
Schultz Garden tomorrow, one

833
00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:21,909
o'clock. It is free, it is open to

834
00:24:21,910 --> 00:24:23,469
the public. We're doing some radio.

835
00:24:23,470 --> 00:24:25,389
This is a community show that

836
00:24:25,390 --> 00:24:26,969
we make for you.

837
00:24:26,970 --> 00:24:28,309
And, Maya, it would be nice to see

838
00:24:28,310 --> 00:24:30,429
some of you out there tomorrow and

839
00:24:30,430 --> 00:24:32,309
to just share this experience

840
00:24:32,310 --> 00:24:34,189
for you because you are

841
00:24:34,190 --> 00:24:36,189
the reason that we do what we do

842
00:24:36,190 --> 00:24:37,629
every single day.

843
00:24:37,630 --> 00:24:39,649
So thank you for supporting this

844
00:24:39,650 --> 00:24:41,549
station and thank you tuning in

845
00:24:41,550 --> 00:24:42,689
to Austin Signal.

846
00:24:42,690 --> 00:24:44,189
Again, we'll be out at Schultz

847
00:24:44,190 --> 00:24:46,089
Garden live tomorrow, 1

848
00:24:46,090 --> 00:24:47,489
o'clock, it's free and open to the

849
00:24:47,490 --> 00:24:49,369
public. If you can't be there, tune

850
00:24:49,370 --> 00:24:50,569
in on the radio.

851
00:24:50,570 --> 00:24:52,369
I'm your host, Jerry Quijano.

852
00:24:52,370 --> 00:24:53,569
We will talk to you then.

