1 00:00:08,919 --> 00:00:10,719 Buford's backyard beer garden was 2 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:12,299 open for business over the weekend, 3 00:00:12,300 --> 00:00:13,719 just days after a shooting left 4 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:15,459 three people dead and more than a 5 00:00:15,460 --> 00:00:16,579 dozen injured. 6 00:00:16,580 --> 00:00:18,319 Some folks in town felt the opening 7 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,459 was rushed after such a tragedy. 8 00:00:20,460 --> 00:00:21,339 We're going to hear from some 9 00:00:21,340 --> 00:00:23,019 patrons who felt showing up was the 10 00:00:23,020 --> 00:00:24,419 right thing to do. 11 00:00:24,420 --> 00:00:26,019 And after the alleged shooter in 12 00:00:26,020 --> 00:00:27,739 that attack was identified, a woman 13 00:00:27,740 --> 00:00:29,439 from Buda is alleging that she was 14 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:30,959 assaulted by the suspect in a 15 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,579 separate incident last year at the 16 00:00:32,580 --> 00:00:33,739 Tesla Gigafactory. 17 00:00:33,740 --> 00:00:35,779 What we know about the incident 18 00:00:35,780 --> 00:00:37,719 and a lawsuit that is coming 19 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:39,589 up. On today's show. 20 00:00:39,590 --> 00:00:41,489 The Austin Signal is a production 21 00:00:41,490 --> 00:00:43,569 of KUT News, hosted by 22 00:00:43,570 --> 00:00:44,699 Jerry Quijano. 23 00:00:44,700 --> 00:00:46,519 Plus, SXSW starts its 24 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:48,679 takeover of Austin this Thursday. 25 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:50,359 Our sister station, KUTX, is gearing 26 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,139 up to bring you plenty of live music 27 00:00:52,140 --> 00:00:54,159 from right here in town and from 28 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,279 around the world. 29 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:57,199 That's up next, right here on 30 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:58,200 Austin Signal. 31 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:09,779 Howdy out there. Thank you for 32 00:01:09,780 --> 00:01:11,579 tuning in. This is Austin Signal 33 00:01:11,580 --> 00:01:13,399 here on listener powered 34 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:14,459 public radio. 35 00:01:14,460 --> 00:01:16,659 KUT News 90.5 36 00:01:16,660 --> 00:01:18,519 on the KUT app and 37 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,979 online at KUT.org. 38 00:01:20,980 --> 00:01:22,559 I'm your host Jerry Quijano. 39 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,479 It is the ninth day of March. 40 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:26,499 Thank you for making us part of 41 00:01:26,500 --> 00:01:27,619 your Monday. 42 00:01:27,620 --> 00:01:28,919 Let's get into today's show. 43 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,559 We have a lot to share with you. 44 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,179 Let us start by telling you about 45 00:01:32,180 --> 00:01:34,519 the Austin Police Department's rules 46 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:35,999 for how its officers contact 47 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,339 Immigration and Customs Enforcement. 48 00:01:38,340 --> 00:01:39,859 The change comes after a heated 49 00:01:39,860 --> 00:01:41,279 community meeting last month where 50 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,099 members of the public asked APD to 51 00:01:43,100 --> 00:01:44,939 refuse to work with ICE and 52 00:01:44,940 --> 00:01:46,699 to refuse to comply with Texas law 53 00:01:46,700 --> 00:01:47,879 forbidding cities from telling 54 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,019 officers that they cannot report 55 00:01:50,020 --> 00:01:51,439 people to ICE. 56 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:52,659 For more about these new rules, 57 00:01:52,660 --> 00:01:54,119 we're speaking with KUT's Moe's 58 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:55,259 Bouchelle, who has been following 59 00:01:55,260 --> 00:01:56,499 this story. Moe, thanks for joining 60 00:01:56,500 --> 00:01:58,139 us. Hey Jerry. 61 00:01:58,140 --> 00:01:59,479 So let's start with the rules. 62 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,159 They were published on APD's website 63 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,159 last week with little fanfare 64 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,859 and there was a lot happening last 65 00:02:04,860 --> 00:02:06,959 week. What do these rules say? 66 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,038 So basically, the idea is 67 00:02:09,039 --> 00:02:11,879 that they need new guidance 68 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,779 for officers when they encounter 69 00:02:13,780 --> 00:02:15,159 people in the course of doing their 70 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,639 jobs, they do a background check, 71 00:02:16,640 --> 00:02:18,339 and they see that Immigrations and 72 00:02:18,340 --> 00:02:19,839 Customs Enforcement has flagged 73 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:21,319 these people with what they call 74 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,899 administrative warrants. 75 00:02:22,900 --> 00:02:24,039 They're not criminal warrants, 76 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:26,459 they're just basically, their 77 00:02:26,460 --> 00:02:28,059 notice is that an ICE agent thinks 78 00:02:28,060 --> 00:02:30,059 this person might be in the country 79 00:02:30,060 --> 00:02:31,699 in an unauthorized manner. 80 00:02:31,700 --> 00:02:33,559 And so police officers, 81 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:34,959 city officers, might encounter that 82 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:35,969 in the course of their work. 83 00:02:35,970 --> 00:02:37,789 How they respond to that is 84 00:02:37,790 --> 00:02:39,329 what these rules are meant to give 85 00:02:39,330 --> 00:02:40,009 guidance for. 86 00:02:40,010 --> 00:02:42,049 Okay so what is the change is it now 87 00:02:42,050 --> 00:02:43,689 that it's not just going to be up to 88 00:02:43,690 --> 00:02:45,609 the to the discretion of one officer 89 00:02:45,610 --> 00:02:47,269 how are the rules changing or or 90 00:02:47,270 --> 00:02:48,629 what's the oversight being added. 91 00:02:48,630 --> 00:02:50,489 Yeah, so that's exactly what it 92 00:02:50,490 --> 00:02:52,549 is. There's kind of added oversight. 93 00:02:52,550 --> 00:02:54,449 Previously, as these ICE warrants 94 00:02:54,450 --> 00:02:55,709 started kind of flooding the system 95 00:02:55,710 --> 00:02:58,309 last year, officers were 96 00:02:58,310 --> 00:03:00,589 often contacting ICE to 97 00:03:00,590 --> 00:03:02,649 tell immigration federal agents 98 00:03:02,650 --> 00:03:04,549 that they had these people in 99 00:03:04,550 --> 00:03:07,269 front of them. In some cases, 100 00:03:07,270 --> 00:03:09,209 the local officers would even detain 101 00:03:09,210 --> 00:03:11,349 or keep a person on scene while 102 00:03:11,350 --> 00:03:12,429 ICE agents arrive. 103 00:03:12,430 --> 00:03:13,889 This It didn't happen a lot, but it 104 00:03:13,890 --> 00:03:15,439 did happen, and it happened most. 105 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,419 Uh... Kind of faith famously with in 106 00:03:17,420 --> 00:03:18,579 the case of a woman and her daughter 107 00:03:18,580 --> 00:03:20,619 who were deported very early this 108 00:03:20,620 --> 00:03:22,599 year so the city is 109 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,599 back and the city's constrained 110 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:26,099 in what it can say because there is 111 00:03:26,100 --> 00:03:28,159 state law state law says 112 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,479 as you already pointed out that 113 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,499 cities can't tell officers not to 114 00:03:31,500 --> 00:03:33,489 call ice What the 115 00:03:33,490 --> 00:03:35,429 new rule does say, however, is 116 00:03:35,430 --> 00:03:37,489 if you are a police officer and 117 00:03:37,490 --> 00:03:38,429 you encounter someone with an 118 00:03:38,430 --> 00:03:39,869 administrative warrant and they have 119 00:03:39,870 --> 00:03:42,009 not committed any 120 00:03:42,010 --> 00:03:43,529 other chargeable offense, so they're 121 00:03:43,530 --> 00:03:44,349 not going to be brought to the 122 00:03:44,350 --> 00:03:46,089 county jail where ICE will very 123 00:03:46,090 --> 00:03:48,349 likely also pick them up, 124 00:03:48,350 --> 00:03:50,209 you cannot detain 125 00:03:50,210 --> 00:03:53,009 that person on 126 00:03:53,010 --> 00:03:53,849 your own. You can't make the 127 00:03:53,850 --> 00:03:55,289 decision on your to hold that person 128 00:03:55,290 --> 00:03:57,409 for ICE to come. What you got to do 129 00:03:57,410 --> 00:03:59,289 is call go up the chain of 130 00:03:59,290 --> 00:04:00,899 command call your you know, 131 00:04:00,900 --> 00:04:02,099 commanding officer, and there are 132 00:04:02,100 --> 00:04:03,939 several different stages that will 133 00:04:03,940 --> 00:04:05,759 go up to get authorization 134 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:07,879 for an 135 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,959 officer to detain someone 136 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:11,679 to wait for ICE. 137 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,739 The idea here is that that 138 00:04:13,740 --> 00:04:15,499 will not happen or will not happened 139 00:04:15,500 --> 00:04:17,559 very frequently because 140 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,119 the Austin Police Department's 141 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:20,119 position has always been, we don't 142 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:21,999 have the resources to do that. 143 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,619 And you've written about this in 144 00:04:23,620 --> 00:04:24,539 your latest story. 145 00:04:24,540 --> 00:04:25,439 We're going to have a link to that in 146 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:26,559 the show notes, but it's been 147 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:27,459 something that you have been 148 00:04:27,460 --> 00:04:29,879 covering for the last few months. 149 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,039 And we've talked about the 150 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,779 limitations that have been placed on 151 00:04:32,780 --> 00:04:34,099 the city and on the police 152 00:04:34,100 --> 00:04:35,499 department. In your story, you write 153 00:04:35,500 --> 00:04:36,999 that city officials are hoping to 154 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:38,219 thread the needle with this 155 00:04:38,220 --> 00:04:39,379 decision. How so? 156 00:04:39,380 --> 00:04:41,019 Yes so like i said you know state 157 00:04:41,020 --> 00:04:42,839 law says you can't not you can tell 158 00:04:42,840 --> 00:04:44,719 officers not to call ice uh... 159 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:45,899 And cities are really really 160 00:04:45,900 --> 00:04:47,499 confining what they can do but the 161 00:04:47,500 --> 00:04:49,319 they can still determine where 162 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:51,299 to use their resources uh... 163 00:04:51,300 --> 00:04:52,939 You know the law appears to to allow 164 00:04:52,940 --> 00:04:54,959 cities to reallocate 165 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,959 officers where they want 166 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:58,819 to to to do their job of 167 00:04:58,820 --> 00:05:00,639 enforcing criminal law you know or 168 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,419 or you know you know in the city and 169 00:05:02,420 --> 00:05:03,499 so uh... 170 00:05:03,500 --> 00:05:05,079 Presumably a commander might look at 171 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:06,359 an officer call hey we found someone 172 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:07,529 who has an administrative warrant. 173 00:05:07,530 --> 00:05:09,009 That commander will say, well, 174 00:05:09,010 --> 00:05:10,329 listen, we don't want you to spend 175 00:05:10,330 --> 00:05:12,149 the man hours 176 00:05:12,150 --> 00:05:13,589 waiting around for maybe for ICE to 177 00:05:13,590 --> 00:05:15,549 show up. So you got to go 178 00:05:15,550 --> 00:05:18,009 and do your job somewhere else. 179 00:05:18,010 --> 00:05:20,149 That could decrease the number of 180 00:05:20,150 --> 00:05:22,169 times that an officer maybe 181 00:05:22,170 --> 00:05:24,369 calls ICE and certainly 182 00:05:24,370 --> 00:05:26,229 waits with a person for ICE to 183 00:05:26,230 --> 00:05:27,559 arrive to detain them. 184 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,079 We've heard a lot about the 185 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,559 relationship between law enforcement 186 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:32,119 and the immigration community here 187 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,059 in Austin and across the country. 188 00:05:34,060 --> 00:05:35,379 Ridley, what have you heard from 189 00:05:35,380 --> 00:05:37,259 immigration advocates about this 190 00:05:37,260 --> 00:05:38,579 new policy change from APD? 191 00:05:38,580 --> 00:05:39,979 Yeah, I think it's really important 192 00:05:39,980 --> 00:05:41,299 to point out that we're talking 193 00:05:41,300 --> 00:05:42,639 about city police officers here. 194 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:45,439 This is a new rule that 195 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,279 may have a kind of impact 196 00:05:47,280 --> 00:05:49,679 in certain circumstances, 197 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:50,759 right? 198 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,999 But in the state of Texas, 199 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,959 state police are 200 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,339 doing immigration enforcement, 201 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:58,979 and their advocates and immigration 202 00:05:58,980 --> 00:06:01,239 lawyers advise people to 203 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:02,739 treat the police as though they were 204 00:06:02,740 --> 00:06:04,259 immigration agents in many cases. 205 00:06:04,260 --> 00:06:06,419 There are many, 206 00:06:06,420 --> 00:06:08,209 many circumstances in which... 207 00:06:08,210 --> 00:06:10,369 Someone may still be concerned 208 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:12,449 about interacting with the police, 209 00:06:12,450 --> 00:06:14,869 even 210 00:06:14,870 --> 00:06:17,129 in light of this one 211 00:06:17,130 --> 00:06:18,989 change to local policy. 212 00:06:18,990 --> 00:06:21,089 And again, I would also stress, 213 00:06:21,090 --> 00:06:22,309 if someone is sent to the county 214 00:06:22,310 --> 00:06:24,409 jail on any kind of 215 00:06:24,410 --> 00:06:26,130 potential charge, 216 00:06:27,270 --> 00:06:29,129 ICE is also there and picking people 217 00:06:29,130 --> 00:06:30,269 up from the county jail. 218 00:06:30,270 --> 00:06:31,729 There are just many different ways 219 00:06:31,730 --> 00:06:33,389 in which someone may find themselves 220 00:06:33,390 --> 00:06:34,699 in the... 221 00:06:34,700 --> 00:06:37,319 Deportation process, quite frankly, 222 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:39,259 after engaging 223 00:06:39,260 --> 00:06:41,369 with law enforcement. 224 00:06:41,370 --> 00:06:42,809 We've been speaking with Moe's Boo 225 00:06:42,810 --> 00:06:44,649 Shell. He is KUT's energy and 226 00:06:44,650 --> 00:06:45,949 environment correspondent and has 227 00:06:45,950 --> 00:06:47,369 been doing lots of immigration 228 00:06:47,370 --> 00:06:49,709 reporting for the Texas Newsroom. 229 00:06:49,710 --> 00:06:51,309 Right here with us on Austin Signal 230 00:06:51,310 --> 00:06:52,489 as well. Moe, thanks for coming back 231 00:06:52,490 --> 00:06:53,510 on the show. We appreciate you. 232 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,179 The KUT newsroom is continuing to 233 00:07:05,180 --> 00:07:06,619 report on the aftermath of this 234 00:07:06,620 --> 00:07:08,159 month's deadly shooting at Buford's 235 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:09,479 on West 6th Street. 236 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:10,839 The bar opened up for business again 237 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:12,119 late last Friday. 238 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,279 We're gonna have more about that 239 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:14,999 coming up in a few moments. 240 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:16,319 After the alleged shooter was 241 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,239 identified, a woman who worked at 242 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,119 Tesla identified him as the man who 243 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,659 had attacked her last year in a 244 00:07:21,660 --> 00:07:23,439 separate incident on the job. 245 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,379 Now she is suing Tesla. 246 00:07:25,380 --> 00:07:26,379 For more about, that we're speaking 247 00:07:26,380 --> 00:07:28,139 with KUT's government accountability 248 00:07:28,140 --> 00:07:29,419 reporter, Andrew Weber. 249 00:07:29,420 --> 00:07:30,259 Andrew, thanks for coming on the 250 00:07:30,260 --> 00:07:31,319 show. Yeah. Thanks for having me, 251 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,849 Jerry. So tell us, what do we know 252 00:07:32,850 --> 00:07:34,359 about this lawsuit so far? 253 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,119 This lawsuit was filed last week 254 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:37,959 here in Travis County by 255 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,219 a woman named Lillian Brady. 256 00:07:40,220 --> 00:07:42,039 She is a 65 year old 257 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,019 worker at the Gigafactory out 258 00:07:44,020 --> 00:07:45,199 in Del Valley. 259 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,039 And she says last 260 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,059 December, early December, she was 261 00:07:49,060 --> 00:07:51,000 assaulted by Ndiaga Diagne. 262 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:54,999 She didn't even know 263 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,919 who, didn't know his name at the 264 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,639 time. She just encountered him at 265 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,979 work. There was an altercation and 266 00:08:00,980 --> 00:08:03,279 she just figured out because his 267 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,079 Face has been plastered all over the 268 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:06,549 news and found a lawsuit. 269 00:08:06,550 --> 00:08:08,389 Did she try to get the information 270 00:08:08,390 --> 00:08:10,199 from her employers there at Tesla? 271 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,319 She did, yes. 272 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,179 And they, her attorney says 273 00:08:13,180 --> 00:08:14,359 they, they stonewalled her 274 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:15,779 basically. So that's why they filed 275 00:08:15,780 --> 00:08:16,699 this lawsuit. 276 00:08:16,700 --> 00:08:18,599 Okay, was law 277 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:20,139 enforcement involved at that time at 278 00:08:20,140 --> 00:08:21,029 all? 279 00:08:21,030 --> 00:08:23,149 Yes. She went to Tesla basically 280 00:08:23,150 --> 00:08:25,169 and said, this person assaulted 281 00:08:25,170 --> 00:08:26,409 me. This happened early in the 282 00:08:26,410 --> 00:08:28,229 morning. He was 283 00:08:28,230 --> 00:08:30,389 allegedly was praying and she was, 284 00:08:30,390 --> 00:08:31,749 you know, sort of walking to her 285 00:08:31,750 --> 00:08:33,189 workstation, didn't want to disturb 286 00:08:33,190 --> 00:08:35,949 him. Apparently did according 287 00:08:35,950 --> 00:08:37,808 to the lawsuit and he threw 288 00:08:37,809 --> 00:08:38,769 it onto the ground. 289 00:08:38,770 --> 00:08:40,749 And so she went to her bosses and 290 00:08:40,750 --> 00:08:42,369 said I would like to know the name 291 00:08:42,370 --> 00:08:44,249 of this employee who assaulted me 292 00:08:44,250 --> 00:08:46,749 and they basically said, okay, 293 00:08:46,750 --> 00:08:48,809 no, according to, you know, 294 00:08:48,810 --> 00:08:49,810 her attorney. 295 00:08:50,460 --> 00:08:52,379 After that, she did go to the 296 00:08:52,380 --> 00:08:54,339 Travis County Sheriff's Office, 297 00:08:54,340 --> 00:08:56,279 and this sort of is intersectional 298 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,439 with the whole, 299 00:08:58,440 --> 00:08:59,319 this man was not on law 300 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:00,279 enforcement's radar. 301 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,259 I have questions about that because 302 00:09:03,260 --> 00:09:05,019 there was an investigation into 303 00:09:05,020 --> 00:09:06,179 this, Travis County Sheriff's told 304 00:09:06,180 --> 00:09:08,139 me that it has since been 305 00:09:08,140 --> 00:09:10,159 closed because the suspect is 306 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:11,999 dead. And so that's where 307 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:13,259 we're at with that. 308 00:09:13,260 --> 00:09:15,359 You mentioned that Austin Police, we 309 00:09:15,360 --> 00:09:16,499 found out through press conferences 310 00:09:16,500 --> 00:09:18,159 last week that they had not 311 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:19,679 encountered the suspect prior to the 312 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:21,119 shooting at Buford. 313 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,459 What do we know about the other 314 00:09:22,460 --> 00:09:23,819 interactions that he did have with 315 00:09:23,820 --> 00:09:24,819 law enforcement? 316 00:09:24,820 --> 00:09:26,699 Yeah, he had some 317 00:09:26,700 --> 00:09:28,919 allegations in civil court in 318 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:30,879 2022 of domestic violence 319 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:32,779 in Bear County. 320 00:09:32,780 --> 00:09:34,579 Sam at The Austin Current has been 321 00:09:34,580 --> 00:09:36,419 covering that. 322 00:09:36,420 --> 00:09:38,279 And he, according to the 323 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:39,380 Department of Homeland Security, 324 00:09:40,540 --> 00:09:42,599 was arrested after a crash 325 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,819 in 2022, 326 00:09:44,820 --> 00:09:46,179 I believe as well. 327 00:09:46,180 --> 00:09:48,219 That's all that we really have. 328 00:09:48,220 --> 00:09:50,359 I've filed a records request for 329 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:51,859 what the Travis County Sheriff's 330 00:09:51,860 --> 00:09:53,889 knew as it relates to this incident. 331 00:09:53,890 --> 00:09:55,149 Um, I haven't gotten anything back 332 00:09:55,150 --> 00:09:56,489 on that, but you know, they have to 333 00:09:56,490 --> 00:09:57,949 legally have to get back to us 334 00:09:57,950 --> 00:09:58,789 within 10 days. 335 00:09:58,790 --> 00:10:00,269 Okay yeah, you mentioned Sam Stark 336 00:10:00,270 --> 00:10:01,469 with the Austin Curran, we had him 337 00:10:01,470 --> 00:10:03,349 on the show Friday, you can find 338 00:10:03,350 --> 00:10:05,789 more from that interview at kut.org 339 00:10:05,790 --> 00:10:07,469 slash signal. 340 00:10:07,470 --> 00:10:10,469 Why is this lawsuit happening now? 341 00:10:10,470 --> 00:10:11,489 That's a good question. 342 00:10:11,490 --> 00:10:13,449 I spoke with Bob Hilliard, 343 00:10:13,450 --> 00:10:14,329 who is Ms. 344 00:10:14,330 --> 00:10:16,549 Brady's attorney, and he 345 00:10:16,550 --> 00:10:18,549 said there is the question, 346 00:10:18,550 --> 00:10:20,669 this looming question of why 347 00:10:20,670 --> 00:10:22,029 wasn't he on law enforcement's 348 00:10:22,030 --> 00:10:22,989 radar? 349 00:10:22,990 --> 00:10:24,909 And this incident could have 350 00:10:24,910 --> 00:10:26,769 maybe put him on law-enforcement's 351 00:10:26,770 --> 00:10:28,949 radar in a more sort of robust 352 00:10:28,950 --> 00:10:31,309 way, for lack of a better word. 353 00:10:31,310 --> 00:10:33,289 APD and the FBI have both said that 354 00:10:33,290 --> 00:10:35,789 we didn't know this guy. 355 00:10:35,790 --> 00:10:37,549 But Bob Hillard, the attorney says, 356 00:10:37,550 --> 00:10:40,069 this all raises questions. 357 00:10:40,070 --> 00:10:42,249 For him because, you know, 358 00:10:42,250 --> 00:10:44,029 it raises the big question of could 359 00:10:44,030 --> 00:10:45,030 this have been prevented? 360 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:47,859 It's curious to me that a company 361 00:10:47,860 --> 00:10:49,819 as sophisticated as Tesla, a 362 00:10:49,820 --> 00:10:51,759 company that claims they can go to 363 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,679 Mars, has no way 364 00:10:53,680 --> 00:10:55,699 of making sure not only 365 00:10:55,700 --> 00:10:57,779 that their employees remain safe, 366 00:10:57,780 --> 00:10:59,779 but also have no way to 367 00:10:59,780 --> 00:11:01,839 identify and make 368 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:03,879 law enforcement aware of 369 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,619 these type of troubling behaviors, 370 00:11:05,620 --> 00:11:07,859 which often do lead 371 00:11:07,860 --> 00:11:10,279 to an escalation. 372 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:12,199 Tragically, the escalation in 373 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,959 this case was unthinkable. 374 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:15,799 All right, we have been speaking 375 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:16,899 with Andrew Weber. 376 00:11:16,900 --> 00:11:18,059 He is KUT's government 377 00:11:18,060 --> 00:11:19,299 accountability reporter. 378 00:11:19,300 --> 00:11:20,879 We're gonna have a link to his 379 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,579 reporting in today's show notes and 380 00:11:22,580 --> 00:11:24,559 again at kut.org slash 381 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:25,339 signal. 382 00:11:25,340 --> 00:11:26,239 Andrew, thank you for coming on the 383 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:27,240 show. Thank you, Jerry. 384 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,599 Well, one week after the deadly 385 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,119 shooting outside Buford's backyard 386 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,099 beer garden on West 6th Street, 387 00:11:39,100 --> 00:11:41,119 the bar was back open to 388 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:42,159 patrons. 389 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,099 KUT's Katy McAfee was there for 390 00:11:44,100 --> 00:11:45,799 its first night, welcoming people 391 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:46,800 back. 392 00:11:47,940 --> 00:11:49,359 Bob Woody doesn't usually sit 393 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:51,579 outside Buford's on weekend nights. 394 00:11:51,580 --> 00:11:53,199 He's normally busy with one of the 395 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,919 other 20 bars he owns in downtown 396 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:55,920 Austin. 397 00:11:56,970 --> 00:11:58,089 Nice to see you, sir. 398 00:11:58,090 --> 00:11:59,449 Thank you for coming back. 399 00:11:59,450 --> 00:12:01,129 But Friday night, he wanted to thank 400 00:12:01,130 --> 00:12:02,929 people for showing up to Buford's 401 00:12:02,930 --> 00:12:04,729 the first day it was back open. 402 00:12:04,730 --> 00:12:06,709 Hi Sergio, how are you? 403 00:12:06,710 --> 00:12:07,910 Thank you for coming down, okay? 404 00:12:09,250 --> 00:12:11,149 Less than a week earlier, this place 405 00:12:11,150 --> 00:12:12,150 was in chaos. 406 00:12:14,700 --> 00:12:16,519 A man drove by the bar, shooting 407 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,359 people on the patio. 408 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:20,299 Then he returned on foot, 409 00:12:20,300 --> 00:12:22,339 continuing his rampage. 410 00:12:22,340 --> 00:12:24,159 Three people died, Savita 411 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,039 Shan, Ryder Harrington, and 412 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:27,499 George Peterson. 413 00:12:27,500 --> 00:12:28,759 More than a dozen others were 414 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:29,659 injured. 415 00:12:29,660 --> 00:12:31,719 As of Thursday, two people are still 416 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,219 in the hospital. 417 00:12:33,220 --> 00:12:34,959 Since that night, hundreds of 418 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,899 electric candles and flower bouquets 419 00:12:36,900 --> 00:12:38,629 have piled up outside the bar. 420 00:12:38,630 --> 00:12:39,989 The further we get from it, the 421 00:12:39,990 --> 00:12:42,889 better we'll be. The more normal we 422 00:12:42,890 --> 00:12:44,949 work our way towards, the faster 423 00:12:44,950 --> 00:12:46,289 we get there. 424 00:12:46,290 --> 00:12:48,389 But you got to do things to help, 425 00:12:48,390 --> 00:12:50,009 and you have to stand up. 426 00:12:50,010 --> 00:12:51,929 I mean, there is no rule book on 427 00:12:51,930 --> 00:12:53,379 how to do this. 428 00:12:53,380 --> 00:12:54,999 After the shooting, Woody says his 429 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,359 employees spent several days 430 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:57,819 reflecting together. 431 00:12:57,820 --> 00:12:59,419 They made the decision to reopen as 432 00:12:59,420 --> 00:13:00,439 a team. 433 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:01,839 Many staffers needed to get back to 434 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:03,149 work to pay their bills. 435 00:13:03,150 --> 00:13:04,709 At a meeting this week, I said, do 436 00:13:04,710 --> 00:13:05,489 y'all want to reopen? 437 00:13:05,490 --> 00:13:07,309 They raised their hands. 438 00:13:07,310 --> 00:13:09,149 I had one that wasn't ready, 439 00:13:09,150 --> 00:13:10,409 but she's going to come back, just 440 00:13:10,410 --> 00:13:11,509 not yet. 441 00:13:11,510 --> 00:13:12,569 And that's fine. 442 00:13:12,570 --> 00:13:14,209 Before reopening, Woody says he 443 00:13:14,210 --> 00:13:15,469 worked with the city to get more 444 00:13:15,470 --> 00:13:16,749 police on the streets around the 445 00:13:16,750 --> 00:13:17,549 bar. 446 00:13:17,550 --> 00:13:19,209 And he says from now on, the city 447 00:13:19,210 --> 00:13:21,249 will barricade Rio Grande from 6th 448 00:13:21,250 --> 00:13:22,949 Street to 7th Street from 10 p.m. 449 00:13:22,950 --> 00:13:25,449 To 4 a.m., on Fridays and Saturdays, 450 00:13:25,450 --> 00:13:27,349 so first responders have easy access 451 00:13:27,350 --> 00:13:28,609 to the bar. 452 00:13:28,610 --> 00:13:30,149 Woody is also working on installing 453 00:13:30,150 --> 00:13:31,629 protective glass along the beer 454 00:13:31,630 --> 00:13:32,789 garden. 455 00:13:32,790 --> 00:13:34,209 One hundred percent of the sales 456 00:13:34,210 --> 00:13:36,129 from Friday, Saturday and Sunday 457 00:13:36,130 --> 00:13:37,489 will go to the victims and their 458 00:13:37,490 --> 00:13:39,669 families. Early Friday night, 459 00:13:39,670 --> 00:13:40,909 Woody said he had already raised 460 00:13:40,910 --> 00:13:41,970 over $10,000. 461 00:13:43,850 --> 00:13:45,789 Inside the bar, people were eager 462 00:13:45,790 --> 00:13:47,569 to get back to normal. 463 00:13:47,570 --> 00:13:49,409 I met Spencer Bishop and Sage Casey 464 00:13:49,410 --> 00:13:50,689 while they were playing a round of 465 00:13:50,690 --> 00:13:51,749 pool near the beer garden. 466 00:13:53,410 --> 00:13:54,969 For Bishop, coming to his favorite 467 00:13:54,970 --> 00:13:56,659 bar was uncomplicated. 468 00:13:56,660 --> 00:13:59,299 We heard they opened at 6, and 469 00:13:59,300 --> 00:14:00,339 it's one of our favorite bars. 470 00:14:00,340 --> 00:14:01,879 Come here all the time, so wanted to 471 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:03,139 definitely come support. 472 00:14:03,140 --> 00:14:04,959 6 PM open and play some pool like 473 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,499 we normally do, like an everyday 474 00:14:06,500 --> 00:14:07,089 thing. 475 00:14:07,090 --> 00:14:09,309 Casey grew up in Boston. 476 00:14:09,310 --> 00:14:11,289 He says he was very near the Boston 477 00:14:11,290 --> 00:14:13,849 Marathon bombings in 2013. 478 00:14:13,850 --> 00:14:15,389 He says after the city took a beat 479 00:14:15,390 --> 00:14:16,129 to recover, 480 00:14:16,130 --> 00:14:18,189 Everybody showed back up on Boylston 481 00:14:18,190 --> 00:14:19,789 and Boston to show that, like, 482 00:14:19,790 --> 00:14:21,829 that's not something that you 483 00:14:21,830 --> 00:14:23,589 don't allow those things to make you 484 00:14:23,590 --> 00:14:25,309 afraid of going to your favorite 485 00:14:25,310 --> 00:14:27,189 places on earth, you 486 00:14:27,190 --> 00:14:28,569 know? So I feel like that's very 487 00:14:28,570 --> 00:14:30,629 important for us to be here tonight 488 00:14:30,630 --> 00:14:32,629 to show this is our 489 00:14:32,630 --> 00:14:34,449 place and we're not going to 490 00:14:34,450 --> 00:14:35,450 be afraid. 491 00:14:36,690 --> 00:14:39,449 Ishar Tal is having a beer inside. 492 00:14:39,450 --> 00:14:40,749 He's from Israel. 493 00:14:40,750 --> 00:14:42,609 And he says he's seen many shootings 494 00:14:42,610 --> 00:14:43,489 in his hometown. 495 00:14:43,490 --> 00:14:45,309 The goal of violence like 496 00:14:45,310 --> 00:14:48,209 that is specifically to make you 497 00:14:48,210 --> 00:14:50,469 fear to go out, make you afraid, 498 00:14:50,470 --> 00:14:52,349 make your scared, make you cave 499 00:14:52,350 --> 00:14:53,809 to the demands or whatever, disrupt 500 00:14:53,810 --> 00:14:54,810 your life. 501 00:14:55,330 --> 00:14:57,069 You cannot let that happen. 502 00:14:57,070 --> 00:14:58,929 If we stopped 503 00:14:58,930 --> 00:15:00,169 our life every time something like 504 00:15:00,170 --> 00:15:01,389 that happened, we wouldn't have the 505 00:15:01,390 --> 00:15:02,659 life to live. 506 00:15:02,660 --> 00:15:04,039 When Buford announced it was 507 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,879 reopening, some people's initial 508 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:07,459 reactions on social media were 509 00:15:07,460 --> 00:15:08,699 negative. 510 00:15:08,700 --> 00:15:10,199 Some people were surprised the bar 511 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:11,979 would ever reopen. 512 00:15:11,980 --> 00:15:13,699 But Dan Weinstock, a 6th Street 513 00:15:13,700 --> 00:15:15,779 regular, says closing permanently 514 00:15:15,780 --> 00:15:18,199 would only compound the tragedy. 515 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:19,499 He went to Bufords on Friday to 516 00:15:19,500 --> 00:15:20,329 support the staff. 517 00:15:20,330 --> 00:15:22,209 I think it's really important to 518 00:15:22,210 --> 00:15:23,449 come back and support them after 519 00:15:23,450 --> 00:15:25,409 such a traumatic event and not to 520 00:15:25,410 --> 00:15:26,549 bring it up, not to talk to them, 521 00:15:26,550 --> 00:15:28,709 not ask them what that night was 522 00:15:28,710 --> 00:15:30,329 like for them but just to be like a 523 00:15:30,330 --> 00:15:31,779 comforting familiar face. 524 00:15:31,780 --> 00:15:33,759 He says being a familiar face says 525 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,939 something important to staff, 526 00:15:35,940 --> 00:15:37,259 that he's not afraid to be there 527 00:15:37,260 --> 00:15:38,699 with them. 528 00:15:38,700 --> 00:15:41,149 I'm Katy McAfee in Austin. 529 00:15:41,150 --> 00:15:42,869 And we have continuing coverage from 530 00:15:42,870 --> 00:15:44,889 the KUT newsroom and the 531 00:15:44,890 --> 00:15:48,669 Austin Current at KUT.org. 532 00:15:48,670 --> 00:15:50,589 You can find more from us on the Kut 533 00:15:50,590 --> 00:15:52,489 app as well. 534 00:15:52,490 --> 00:15:54,809 Coming up here on Austin Signal, 535 00:15:54,810 --> 00:15:56,629 it is right about that time 536 00:15:56,630 --> 00:15:58,549 where South by Southwest comes 537 00:15:58,550 --> 00:16:00,689 over and takes over Austin, 538 00:16:00,690 --> 00:16:02,049 and we're going to talk a little bit 539 00:16:02,050 --> 00:16:03,869 about the music offerings 540 00:16:03,870 --> 00:16:05,069 that we're gonna be providing. 541 00:16:05,070 --> 00:16:08,429 Thanks to our sister station KUTX, 542 00:16:08,430 --> 00:16:09,569 lots of great options. 543 00:16:09,570 --> 00:16:11,349 Come hear about them after this 544 00:16:11,350 --> 00:16:12,949 break. You're listening to 545 00:16:12,950 --> 00:16:14,969 community-powered public radio. 546 00:16:14,970 --> 00:16:17,229 This is KUT News and this is 547 00:16:17,230 --> 00:16:18,230 Austin Signal. 548 00:16:29,870 --> 00:16:31,729 Welcome back, this is Austin 549 00:16:31,730 --> 00:16:33,569 Signal. Well, after a few days of 550 00:16:33,570 --> 00:16:35,249 rain in March, the forecasted 551 00:16:35,250 --> 00:16:36,869 weather for Austin this Thursday is 552 00:16:36,870 --> 00:16:38,649 sunny skies with a high right around 553 00:16:38,650 --> 00:16:39,549 70. 554 00:16:39,550 --> 00:16:41,549 That can mean only one thing, the 555 00:16:41,550 --> 00:16:43,809 start of South by Southwest. 556 00:16:43,810 --> 00:16:44,969 For more about the happenings our 557 00:16:44,970 --> 00:16:47,029 sister station KUTX will have going 558 00:16:47,030 --> 00:16:48,789 on starting this weekend, we're 559 00:16:48,790 --> 00:16:50,109 joined by Matt Riley, Program 560 00:16:50,110 --> 00:16:52,109 Director at KUTx, howdy Matt. 561 00:16:52,110 --> 00:16:52,949 Hi, Jerry. 562 00:16:52,950 --> 00:16:55,029 Thanks for coming on the show and. 563 00:16:55,030 --> 00:16:56,409 I only have you for a few minutes 564 00:16:56,410 --> 00:16:58,249 and you all have a lot going on, 565 00:16:58,250 --> 00:17:00,309 so let's start with Schultz 566 00:17:00,310 --> 00:17:02,249 Garden that's starting on Thursday. 567 00:17:02,250 --> 00:17:03,299 What's happening out there? 568 00:17:03,300 --> 00:17:04,459 Yeah. So we're going to be there 569 00:17:04,460 --> 00:17:06,338 three mornings, eight to noon, 570 00:17:06,339 --> 00:17:07,759 and we're going to kick things off 571 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,598 Thursday morning and it's 572 00:17:09,599 --> 00:17:11,139 four acts each day. 573 00:17:11,140 --> 00:17:13,179 They're getting 30 minute sets and 574 00:17:13,180 --> 00:17:15,219 $10 at the door gets you in. 575 00:17:15,220 --> 00:17:16,818 And that money goes directly to the 576 00:17:16,819 --> 00:17:18,299 central Texas food bank. 577 00:17:18,300 --> 00:17:19,598 So we are helping out our neighbors 578 00:17:19,599 --> 00:17:21,818 in need and so 579 00:17:21,819 --> 00:17:23,879 big props to 580 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,879 our booker, Deidre Gott, she 581 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:27,719 has been busy for the last few 582 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:28,859 months putting all of these 583 00:17:28,860 --> 00:17:30,139 showcases together. 584 00:17:30,140 --> 00:17:32,059 But we've got acts from all over 585 00:17:32,060 --> 00:17:34,399 the world and Austin at Schultz. 586 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:36,899 So Australia, Argentina, 587 00:17:36,900 --> 00:17:38,759 Indonesia, England, 588 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:40,919 Kansas, yeah, I mean, 589 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:43,159 name it, almost, it's there. 590 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:45,859 But yeah, these are always really 591 00:17:45,860 --> 00:17:47,639 great showcases because they get to 592 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:48,539 stretch out a little bit at 30 593 00:17:48,540 --> 00:17:49,559 minutes. 594 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,539 And this is a really great way 595 00:17:51,540 --> 00:17:53,399 to experience South by Southwest 596 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:54,259 if you've never done it. 597 00:17:54,260 --> 00:17:55,799 You don't want to go downtown, 598 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:57,639 because this is just at Schultz Beer 599 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,519 Garden, right here up by campus 600 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,439 and by the Capitol, so 601 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,499 parking's not that big of a deal. 602 00:18:03,500 --> 00:18:04,819 And so if you'd like to come get 603 00:18:04,820 --> 00:18:06,519 breakfast with us and see some of 604 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:07,819 the best acts from all over the 605 00:18:07,820 --> 00:18:08,899 world, this is the great way get 606 00:18:08,900 --> 00:18:09,479 into it. 607 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,339 And that Schultz garden showcases 608 00:18:12,340 --> 00:18:14,459 a showcase sort of international 609 00:18:14,460 --> 00:18:15,739 flair, right? But over at the 610 00:18:15,740 --> 00:18:17,139 Rivian, it's gonna be a little bit 611 00:18:17,140 --> 00:18:18,189 more Austin focused. 612 00:18:18,190 --> 00:18:19,909 Yeah, so Friday, Saturday, and 613 00:18:19,910 --> 00:18:21,789 Sunday, we're doing a day party at 614 00:18:21,790 --> 00:18:23,729 Rivian down at their showroom 615 00:18:23,730 --> 00:18:25,329 on South Congress, just across the 616 00:18:25,330 --> 00:18:26,369 bridge there. 617 00:18:26,370 --> 00:18:28,289 And so we're going all 618 00:18:28,290 --> 00:18:29,229 Austin for this one. 619 00:18:29,230 --> 00:18:31,149 This one's 100% free, open 620 00:18:31,150 --> 00:18:33,029 to the public. It's from two to five 621 00:18:33,030 --> 00:18:35,269 each afternoon, Friday, Sunday, 622 00:18:35,270 --> 00:18:36,269 and Saturday. 623 00:18:36,270 --> 00:18:37,609 And so if you're going to be down 624 00:18:37,610 --> 00:18:39,569 there anyway exploring, swing on 625 00:18:39,570 --> 00:18:41,569 by because we've got really great 626 00:18:41,570 --> 00:18:43,389 Austin acts lined up for 627 00:18:43,390 --> 00:18:45,489 you. And we thought, you know. 628 00:18:45,490 --> 00:18:46,909 If we're gonna throw this big party, 629 00:18:46,910 --> 00:18:48,349 let's make it Austin music 630 00:18:48,350 --> 00:18:49,869 experience style. 631 00:18:49,870 --> 00:18:51,909 Let's really showcase our 632 00:18:51,910 --> 00:18:53,209 talent here in town because we're 633 00:18:53,210 --> 00:18:54,049 going to have a lot of people from 634 00:18:54,050 --> 00:18:54,989 all over the world in that 635 00:18:54,990 --> 00:18:56,049 neighborhood. 636 00:18:56,050 --> 00:18:57,549 So we want to make sure to give them 637 00:18:57,550 --> 00:18:59,109 as big of a stage as possible. 638 00:18:59,110 --> 00:19:00,469 Once again, it's free, bring the 639 00:19:00,470 --> 00:19:01,470 kids. 640 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,299 And I saw that the Rivian is kicking 641 00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:04,679 off with Next of Kin. 642 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:05,979 Next of Ken has been featured a few 643 00:19:05,980 --> 00:19:07,799 times here on Austin Signal. 644 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,139 So our listeners are certainly 645 00:19:09,140 --> 00:19:10,959 familiar with that band and lots 646 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:12,699 of others performing there. 647 00:19:12,700 --> 00:19:15,079 Speaking of focusing on Austin, 648 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:16,419 tell us about Austin Sounds. 649 00:19:16,420 --> 00:19:18,099 Is that a new event? 650 00:19:18,100 --> 00:19:19,279 So this is. 651 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:20,899 Sort of morphed over the years. 652 00:19:20,900 --> 00:19:22,179 It used to be the big Auditorium 653 00:19:22,180 --> 00:19:24,419 Shores shows, and then now we're 654 00:19:24,420 --> 00:19:26,499 partnering with the City of Austin. 655 00:19:26,500 --> 00:19:28,579 And it's basically 656 00:19:28,580 --> 00:19:30,579 another way to showcase 657 00:19:30,580 --> 00:19:32,219 Austin talent, but it's sort of 658 00:19:32,220 --> 00:19:34,719 genre-specific by night, and 659 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,479 it's happening at Lefty's Brick Bar 660 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,519 down there on East 6th Street. 661 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:40,099 And so each night kind of has its 662 00:19:40,100 --> 00:19:41,539 own theme, and our very 663 00:19:42,639 --> 00:19:44,479 own hip-hop show, The Breaks, 664 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,679 will be having their own night on 665 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,279 Friday night, And that's going to be 666 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:49,059 the great. 667 00:19:49,060 --> 00:19:51,419 A great lineup of soul, R&B, 668 00:19:51,420 --> 00:19:53,339 hip-hop, and so once 669 00:19:53,340 --> 00:19:54,819 again, this is totally open to the 670 00:19:54,820 --> 00:19:56,439 public and our own DJ Shawnee will 671 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:58,599 be on hand to provide music as well. 672 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,599 So if you're looking to really get 673 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,019 into a lot of free things, 674 00:20:03,020 --> 00:20:04,839 things that might not be super 675 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:06,159 crowded, I don't think anything's 676 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,719 going to be that crowded, honestly. 677 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:08,720 Why do you say that? 678 00:20:09,939 --> 00:20:11,899 Those days have kind 679 00:20:11,900 --> 00:20:13,799 of passed. Like the days where 680 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,739 it's just mobbed. 681 00:20:15,740 --> 00:20:17,259 I don't think that happens. 682 00:20:17,260 --> 00:20:18,679 That's certainly not happened in the 683 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,119 last, well, since COVID. 684 00:20:21,120 --> 00:20:22,939 And so I think 685 00:20:22,940 --> 00:20:23,839 everything's gonna be pretty 686 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,019 accessible as long as you're willing 687 00:20:25,020 --> 00:20:26,899 to ride share and to 688 00:20:26,900 --> 00:20:28,439 take public transportation and not 689 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:29,839 worry about parking. 690 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:31,519 Get down there because it's very 691 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,019 accessible and a lot of this stuff 692 00:20:33,020 --> 00:20:34,399 is free and totally up. 693 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,079 You don't need a badge, as we like 694 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:37,739 to say, no badge, no problem. 695 00:20:37,740 --> 00:20:39,219 Is that the case for all the K-U-T-X 696 00:20:39,220 --> 00:20:40,119 events as well? 697 00:20:40,120 --> 00:20:40,461 Yeah, you don't need to. 698 00:20:40,462 --> 00:20:41,319 As well okay yeah you don't need any sort of 699 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:42,809 credentials and then um 700 00:20:42,810 --> 00:20:44,229 just the ten dollars for the schultz 701 00:20:44,230 --> 00:20:45,249 garden that's uh... Because that's 702 00:20:45,250 --> 00:20:46,290 going to the central texas yeah 703 00:20:46,291 --> 00:20:47,429 Yeah, and then at Rivian, they're 704 00:20:47,430 --> 00:20:48,649 going to be on hand collecting 705 00:20:48,650 --> 00:20:50,729 donations as well, so we want to 706 00:20:50,730 --> 00:20:52,269 have a good showing for them. 707 00:20:52,270 --> 00:20:54,449 And then Monday, 708 00:20:54,450 --> 00:20:56,549 down at the Downright Hotel, 709 00:20:56,550 --> 00:20:58,229 which used to be the Sheraton on 710 00:20:58,230 --> 00:21:01,149 11th, that is 711 00:21:01,150 --> 00:21:03,029 the music hub of South by 712 00:21:03,030 --> 00:21:04,429 Southwest this year, because there's 713 00:21:04,430 --> 00:21:06,809 no convention center, so each 714 00:21:06,810 --> 00:21:08,589 track has its own hub. 715 00:21:08,590 --> 00:21:09,849 And so the music club is at the 716 00:21:09,850 --> 00:21:11,689 right hotel and we're going to have 717 00:21:11,690 --> 00:21:13,469 the radio day stage from noon to 718 00:21:13,470 --> 00:21:15,659 five on Monday, 719 00:21:15,660 --> 00:21:17,399 also free open to the public. 720 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,519 It's just there in the backyard of 721 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:19,779 the hotel. 722 00:21:19,780 --> 00:21:21,139 And Deidre once again has booked an 723 00:21:21,140 --> 00:21:22,619 amazing international lineup. 724 00:21:22,620 --> 00:21:24,059 And so you're going to get sounds 725 00:21:24,060 --> 00:21:24,859 from all over the world. 726 00:21:24,860 --> 00:21:25,939 And we're going partner with some of 727 00:21:25,940 --> 00:21:27,199 our public radio pals from around 728 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:28,219 the country on that one. 729 00:21:28,220 --> 00:21:29,939 Okay, we only have about 30 seconds 730 00:21:29,940 --> 00:21:30,779 left. 731 00:21:30,780 --> 00:21:31,719 Any other advice? 732 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:32,739 I mean, you gave me advice a few 733 00:21:32,740 --> 00:21:34,699 years ago, which was just to get 734 00:21:34,700 --> 00:21:36,239 out and get you work. 735 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:37,679 I think I was expressing that I was 736 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,219 a little concerned about having to 737 00:21:39,220 --> 00:21:40,699 pay to get in or being overwhelmed 738 00:21:40,700 --> 00:21:42,279 and you just said, just get out 739 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,009 there, dude. Just go have some fun. 740 00:21:44,010 --> 00:21:45,909 Yeah, I mean, there's so much 741 00:21:45,910 --> 00:21:47,289 free stuff. 742 00:21:47,290 --> 00:21:49,309 And all of our stuff is 743 00:21:49,310 --> 00:21:51,349 free or low cost. 744 00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:53,209 And you don't need any kind of 745 00:21:53,210 --> 00:21:54,029 credentials. 746 00:21:54,030 --> 00:21:55,929 I don't think it's, again, 747 00:21:55,930 --> 00:21:56,989 I don't think it' going to be 748 00:21:56,990 --> 00:21:58,209 mobbed. 749 00:21:58,210 --> 00:21:59,729 Especially our stuff, as always, you 750 00:21:59,730 --> 00:22:00,829 know, we're pretty accommodating. 751 00:22:00,830 --> 00:22:01,869 We always try to get as many people 752 00:22:01,870 --> 00:22:03,469 in as we can. 753 00:22:03,470 --> 00:22:05,109 And we want everybody to come party 754 00:22:05,110 --> 00:22:07,049 with us. So this is just, this 755 00:22:07,050 --> 00:22:08,669 is our version of Mardi Gras, as I 756 00:22:08,670 --> 00:22:09,829 like to say. All right. 757 00:22:09,830 --> 00:22:11,649 You know, this part is his core to 758 00:22:11,650 --> 00:22:13,039 Austin, so get into it. 759 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:14,379 If you want to. 760 00:22:14,380 --> 00:22:15,739 All right, that is Matt Reilly, the 761 00:22:15,740 --> 00:22:17,379 program director for KUTX. 762 00:22:17,380 --> 00:22:19,319 You can find more information and 763 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:20,619 some set times for the events we 764 00:22:20,620 --> 00:22:21,959 talked about today in our podcast 765 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,139 show notes and at kutx.org. 766 00:22:25,140 --> 00:22:26,299 Matt, happy South By. 767 00:22:26,300 --> 00:22:27,119 Back at you. 768 00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:29,179 And to you out there, Austin Signal 769 00:22:29,180 --> 00:22:31,259 is doing South By Big this year. 770 00:22:31,260 --> 00:22:32,879 We are doing a live show this 771 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:33,679 Thursday. 772 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:35,239 At Schultz Garden, it's gonna be a 773 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:36,639 one-hour special. 774 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:37,919 We're gonna be talking to some 775 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,779 people from the movies 776 00:22:39,780 --> 00:22:42,579 and from the music and from foods, 777 00:22:42,580 --> 00:22:43,559 all free. 778 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:45,519 Come join us one o'clock this 779 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,719 Thursday at Scholz Garden. 780 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,359 We'll have more information at 781 00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:49,839 kut.org. 782 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:51,539 This is Austin Signal. 783 00:22:51,540 --> 00:22:52,759 I'm your host, Jerry Kihono. 784 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:54,099 We will talk to you tomorrow.