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The growing body of evidence shows

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that doulas can improve health

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outcomes, especially for black

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women, who have a maternal mortality

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rate two and a half times higher

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than white women in Texas.

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Birth workers want their services to

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be accessible and understood by

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more folks.

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We've got more about them.

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And the Texas Dream Act gave

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undocumented Texans a chance to

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attend college at the cost of

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in-state tuition.

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Now Texas public universities are

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progressing through their first full

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academic semester under new tuition

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rules. We're going to hear from one

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UT Austin student about the

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adjustment and the future coming

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up on today's show.

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The Austin Signal is a production

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of KUT News, hosted by

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Jerry Quijano.

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And we're going to wrap up a busy

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weekend of sports across the

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We've got those stories and more

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coming up next here on Austin

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Howdy out there, this is Austin

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Signal. Thank you for tuning in.

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It is the last Monday of February,

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2026.

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I'm your host, Jerry Kikano.

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Five days remain to vote early in

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the upcoming March primaries here in

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Texas.

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Republicans and Democrats across the

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state are deciding their party's

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nominees for this fall's general

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election.

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Several statewide races are on the

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ballot and voters are also choosing

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their congressional district

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candidates.

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And depending on where you live and

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your party affiliation, your ballot

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might also include one of two

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Travis County Commissioner races.

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We have voter guides with more

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information.

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Those are over at KUT.org.

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Austin is becoming a thriving hub

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for doulas, advocates who

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provide support for women during

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pregnancy and childbirth, and

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they're playing an important role in

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statewide efforts to maternal

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mortality rates.

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KUT's Olivia Aldridge spoke with

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Central Texas doulas about their

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efforts to advocate for the

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profession and the women that

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they care for.

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When Josephine Adegbate had her

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second baby last spring,

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all the stars seemed to align.

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At a birthing center in Maynor, she

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labored in a tub of water as music

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played, and just when it was time

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to push, a Yoruba gospel song

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began to play, one of her Nigerian

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grandmother's favorites.

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Fuck it

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like, what are the odds?

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perfect, the playlist was planned

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with this day in mind.

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By Josephine's side the whole time,

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supporting her with water, towels,

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massages, and making sure the music

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kept rolling was her doula,

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Alicia Rivera Clemente.

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I was happy to be there and happy

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to see that she was so

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comfortable and felt safe

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and you know she was able to

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enjoy and really reflect on

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what she just did like the powerful

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thing that she just did.

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Josephine's first experience giving

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birth just a couple of years

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earlier.

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C-section.

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She felt pressured and scared.

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I didn't like the way I was

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treated in the hospital.

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I didn't really have a voice.

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pregnant again, she sought out a

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doula.

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person to talk her through her fears

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and questions made a big difference.

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There is no shame and it's like,

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that's like your person.

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It's like an extension of you.

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Josephine's experience aligns with

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a growing body of research that

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shows doulas are associated with

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better birth outcomes.

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premature labor and fewer

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C-sections, which can be

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lifesaving but come with increased

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risks when performed unnecessarily.

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These benefits have been especially

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noted for Black women, who have

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a maternal mortality rate two and

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a half times higher than white women

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in Texas.

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But doula services aren't

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always accessible for everyone.

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They've rarely been covered by

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insurance, meaning they've often

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been limited to people who can pay.

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network of organizations that offer

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free services for black and brown

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women who could benefit from

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medulla.

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It's called the Maternal Health

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Equity Collaborative.

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Alicia worked with Josephine through

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one of the organizations in the

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group.

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You know, if one organization

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doesn't have the capacity, we're not

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just telling you no,

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or saying like, you know,

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better luck next time, we can refer

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you to somewhere else, and then it's

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not just that referral

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process of, hey, we just gave you

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the website, we're getting you

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in touch with somebody.

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Directly.

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It's an example of the kind of

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coalition building that doula

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leaders in the state want to see

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more of throughout Texas.

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Deanna von Bart held is vice

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president of the Texas Doula

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Association.

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She thinks Austin's proximity to the

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capital has bolstered the local

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doula network and motivated them

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to take an advocacy focused approach

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to their work.

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You have a freeing environment

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to provide the services that you

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need.

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You have local representatives

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who support and have a better

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understanding of the doula work.

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We would want to see what's

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happening in Travis County

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multiplied across

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The state.

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The Texas Doula Association recently

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released the results of a first of

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its kind survey of the Texas doula

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workforce, an attempt to get a

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picture of a profession that largely

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operates outside of the traditional

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medical establishment, with no

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one single credentialing agency and

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many training pathways.

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We wanted to reflect the reality

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of our community-based work,

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which includes, I'll say, informal

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care, unpaid labor,

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cultural responsiveness, and

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of course the emotional and

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financial toll of supporting

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families in a under-resourced

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system.

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The survey confirmed that Austin is

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a hotspot for birth workers,

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with almost 30% of doulas who

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responded saying they worked in

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Travis County.

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Rural doulas were more isolated,

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and indicated they could use more

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support.

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Across the board, doulas said they

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still encounter a lack of

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understanding from the public about

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what their job is and why

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it's important.

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Von Barthold and the Texas Doula

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Association want to make sure state

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policymakers are I'm educated about

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this too.

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to doula services have been filed in

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the past two legislative sessions.

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going to say, okay, I'm gonna vote

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on this bill, but I still don't know

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what you do, is alarming.

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The push to cover more doula

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services through Medicaid has gained

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momentum in recent years.

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have introduced a Medicaid pilot

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program have stalled in committee.

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it happen.

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Around half of U.S.

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through their Medicaid programs.

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session, the Texas Doula Association

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is hoping to get more individual

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doulas involved in advocacy.

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Dula Alicia Rivera-Clemente

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says that's something she's

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interested in.

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I'd like to get more involved

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and become more knowledgeable

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about how these things can

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change and why they're

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remaining the same.

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The compensation to me doesn't

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equate to the work that's being done

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and the impact that's been made.

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So I'd to see change there for sure.

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But in the meantime, Alicia loves

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the work she's doing, and that work

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has been motivating for Josephine

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too.

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She wants other women to have

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positive experiences with

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childbirth.

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It was so good, it felt

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like I could do

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it. I knew what I was doing, I had

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support.

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I felt heard, I felt seen.

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And that's really what every woman

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deserves.

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As Josephine parents her two little

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girls. She's also back in school,

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hoping to work towards becoming a

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labor and delivery nurse.

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I'm Olivia Aldridge in Austin.

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For over two decades, the Texas

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DREAM Act gave undocumented Texans

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a chance to attend college at the

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cost of in-state tuition.

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Now Texas public universities are in

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their first full semester under new

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tuition rules, which are at the

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center of a federal court fight.

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A lower court order siding with the

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Justice Department challenging the

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DREAM act is under appeal right now

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at the Fifth Circuit.

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this legal battle isn't just some

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legal abstraction.

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Spring tuition bills have already

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gone out under the new rules, and

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students here in Austin and across

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the state are adjusting in real

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Marco Julian Gonzalez is a

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dual-degree double honors junior

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here at UT.

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He's also a member of Sigma Lambda

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Beta, a Latino-founded fraternity

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whose chapter has stepped into this

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legal fight.

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Gonzalez stopped by the Texas

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Standard to speak with host David

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Brown.

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For listeners who may not have

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followed every turn of this case,

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I'm not going to ask you to try to

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rebuild that, but can you briefly

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explain in real

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terms, everyday terms, what's

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changed this semester and what

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students are seeing in their tuition

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bill?

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Yeah. And I guess I'll pick

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up in what we're not

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seeing is, uh, thousands

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and thousands of students all over

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the state of Texas attending

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these end state public universities

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that they're admitted to because

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they can't afford the cost of

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tuition.

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Uh, what we have seen is,

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uh, some of the people that we know,

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uh their tuition bills have spiked

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from some, I

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don't know, $7,000 for

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a semester to about

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$22,000 a

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semester.

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Uh, seemingly overnight.

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You've described this as a

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rare moment where student

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organizations move

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from legislative advocacy to

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state rulemaking to now here

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you are in a live federal appeal.

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What did that journey look like from

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your vantage point as a member of

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this fraternity joining into

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this

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huge legal fight?

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Well, I guess to say is we know many

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people who are affected by the

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end of the Texas Dream Act.

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And I guess not the end because it's

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still in litigation, but right now

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it's not an enforcement, right?

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And 57,000 students

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across the state of Texas,

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many of these students feel that

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they can't speak and share their own

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testimonies because of the

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predicament that they're in.

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So we feel the need to step in and

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be able to speak for them, for the

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people that now.

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For the people that are being

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called, I would say,

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unjust labels, right?

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These are members of Trinde Agua

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or MS 13.

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These are students that study in the

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same libraries, go to the same

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dining hall, go to

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same rec here at UT

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Austin alongside of us.

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We know who they are.

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We know they aren't.

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Here we have the situation in

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the court's Fifth Circuit appeal

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still pending.

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Can you give me an example of how

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this is affecting the lives

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of some of your fellow

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students? Yeah.

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Time.

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I can give a testimonial, for

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example, I have a friend who,

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you know, she dreams of being a

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doctor, right? She was brought here

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when she was really young, went to

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our Texas public schools,

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graduated from Texas high schools,

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remembers the Alamo, remembers

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everything about Texas,

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and they got here to University

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of Texas at Austin.

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This was supposed to be their senior

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year.

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They were expecting to apply to,

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you now, different medical schools

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to be a doctor because they want to

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help save lives in the state of

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Texas. And because of this,

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she has all of her requirements for

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her degree met except

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for some semester or two.

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And that semester or two is charging

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her about $22,000,

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right?

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She and her family weren't expecting

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that type of price, right?

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And so now she's had to unenroll,

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put her educational career

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on pause.

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Until we can see the outcome of this

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litigation.

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For me and my fraternity, it's not

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about politics, it's now about

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party.

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For us it's about the people, the

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people that we know in our lives who

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are affected.

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Marco, I know you mentioned

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specifically that this isn't a

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political thing.

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This is about the impact on

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others. And yet here we are

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in a very important

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election season.

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Do you imagine that there will be

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any political implication as

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a result of these changes or

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not so much?

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What do you think?

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To be honest with you, I never asked

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that question.

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It kind of goes back to as a, I

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mean, we never expected to be where

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we are today, right?

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We never expected testifying

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from the legislature, the state

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executive committees.

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We never expect it to be named the

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Mise Curiae and the federal

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circuit court.

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It just so happens to be, you know,

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one step along the way, here

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we are.

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We feel like we're here to defend

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meritocracy in America.

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We feel the political implications

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Is that Texas Pride itself?

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On the free enterprise system.

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And these students did everything

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that the state asked them to do.

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Got good grades, studied

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for the SAT, ACT,

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to get to where they are today

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because they're hardworking.

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They dream to be an American and

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they dream to a Texas

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citizen. And that's part of the

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implications of the Texas Dream Act.

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Is in order to be eligible, you have

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to commit yourself in sworn

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affidavit to pursue

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lawful.

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Status. These people want to be

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Americans.

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They're already tax contributing and

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so I feel the biggest implication is

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just that, you know a loss

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to the meritocracy in

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our state of Texas.

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That was Marco Julian Gonzalez.

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He is a junior at UT Austin and

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a member of a Latino-founded

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fraternity whose chapter has stepped

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into a battle over in-state

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tuition costs.

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We're going to have more in today's

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podcast, show notes and at kut.org

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slash signal.

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And coming up, we're going have some

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black Austin music history for you

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and a recap of the busy sports

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weekend that was here in Austin.

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That's after this break.

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This is Austin signal.

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This is Austin Signal, welcome

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back.

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It is the final week of February

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and all month long host Myles

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Bloxson has been chronicling Austin

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Music History for Black

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History Month.

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Today we're gonna hear about an East

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Austin club that became a hub for

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live music, dancing and

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Austin's black community.

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Charlie's Playhouse opened around

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1958 under the ownership

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of East Austin businessman Ernest

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Charlie Gilden, located at

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1206 East 11th Street in the

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historically black cultural

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district.

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The building had previously housed

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the show bar and the black cat.

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During segregation, the club became

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a central gathering place for

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Austin's black community, offering

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live music, dancing and nightlife

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in a city that actually limited

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where black residents could

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socialize.

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At a time when black musicians were

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restricted in where they could

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perform, Charlie's became part of

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the Chitlin circuit, the network of

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venues that actually welcomed black

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performers across the country.

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Throughout the 1960s,

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Charlie's hosted live bands five

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nights a week.

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Austin native and local legend blues

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boy Hubbard helped define the club

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sound, alongside groups like the

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Jets.

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National R&B acts also made their

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way through Charlie's doors,

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including Hank Ballard and the

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Midnighters. Famously known for

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recording the original version of

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the twist.

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Come on baby,

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let's do it!

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But in the mid-late 1960s,

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Austin itself was beginning to

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shift.

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While limited school integration had

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started in the 1950s,

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widespread desegregation of schools

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and businesses did not take hold

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into the mid 1960s.

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And full integration would be forced

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by federal intervention around

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1970s.

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As those changes moved through the

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capital city, White University

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of Texas students began showing up

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at Charlie's.

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Gradually shifting the dynamic of

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the space long rooted in black

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community life.

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And when formerly segregated venues

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began opening their doors to black

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patrons, Donald Duck Jennings,

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a former performer at Charlie's and

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member of the Jets put it this way,

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all the customers and the patrons,

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they left and went across the

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freeway. And by the 70s,

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shifting demographics and changing

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audience patterns were reshaping

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East Austin.

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In 1971, a cornerstone

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of the black community and Austin's

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first public high school for black

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students. LC Anderson High

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School was shut down during

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court-ordered integration.

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As integration continued to unfold

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across the city, the city's

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entertainment landscape also

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shifted, and Charlie's Playhouse

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closed its doors for good.

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The building was eventually

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demolished, and today a four-story

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condo built in 2009

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stands where the iconic East Side

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venue once filled the night with

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music and blues.

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Even though Charlie's Playhouse no

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longer stands at 1206 East

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11th Street, its imprint on

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Austin's music history is forever

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woven into the city's story,

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a lasting reminder of when East

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Austin was the heart of black

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business, culture,

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and blues!

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For more on Charlie's Playhouse,

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visit kutx.org.

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I'm Miles Bloxson.

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This is Austin Signo.

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And she said that she's my

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first class lover

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Well, it was a busy sports weekend

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here in Austin with some

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professional soccer, basketball,

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and some UT action as well.

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Here to help us recap some of it is

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KUT's program director and co-host

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of the Vamos Verde podcast,

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Jimmy Moss. Howdy, Jimmy.

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Howdy, and it was a busy weekend.

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It's kind of a busy time in sports

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in town.

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This is a big city now, so.

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It's a fun time to be a sports

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enjoyer for sure because

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it's the final week of February

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which means we're ramping up into

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March and March Madness.

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So let's start with the Texas

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women's basketball team.

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How did they do yesterday?

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Well, they continued their pursuit

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of a top seed in the NCAA tournament

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They they more than

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doubled Mississippi State score

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yesterday at the Moody Center 92 to

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42 They are still ranked fourth

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in the newest AP basketball

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poll. They host 24th

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ranked, Georgia Thursday here

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in town and speaking of

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Georgia the Bulldogs ended the

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men's team's Five-game win

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streak and threw a bit of a wrench

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in the plans for the horns to coast

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into the NCAA tournament

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They beat Texas Saturday in Athens.

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And now bracketology is of course,

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this imaginary inexact

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pseudoscience, but that's

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not gonna stop ESPN and others from

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paying someone to come up with these

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numbers.

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It's fun to be a fake bracket

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ology in that

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in that spirit.

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Going into the weekend, the

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Longhorns had an 80% chance of

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making the tournament.

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Now, after that loss in Athens,

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they have a 70% chance and

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they have a tough game this

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Wednesday at Moody Center against

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Florida.

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Okay, well speaking of the Moody

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Center, that Texas game took place

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at one o'clock in the afternoon

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yesterday.

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There was a professional basketball

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game the night before and it was a

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busy weekend for the Spurs here in

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Austin. You were out there.

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What was it?

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The I-35 series is

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seemingly one of, it's a super

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popular stop for the Spurs.

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They come here and they pack the

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house more so than they fill

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the upper rafters of the

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Moody Center, which they're not

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typical for long-horn basketball

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games. Anyway, both Spurs posted

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double-digit wins against the

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Suns on Thursday and the Kings on

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Saturday, so Spurs

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are kind of rolling right now.

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They really are. They're heading into

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the playoffs on a high note.

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See if they can maintain that

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through the end of March and into

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the NBA playoff

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Yeah, they're on an eight game

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winning streak and tonight they're

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going against the Detroit Pistons

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who have the best record in the

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Eastern conference So should be a

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fun game. That's starting at 6

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o'clock So yeah, there was

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a lot going on but

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the big go ahead

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No, staying on campus though, real

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quick. Defending national champion

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softball team.

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Went out to California and did what?

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Defending National Champion should

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do. They went 5-0 in a tournament

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out there.

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And they beat the likes of Stanford

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and Arizona.

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And they had a good weekend for

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themselves. They've now won 12 games

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in a row.

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And the Longhorn men's baseball team

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swept Michigan State over the

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weekend. Big name opponent there.

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So they're keeping their season

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off to a good start.

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And also pro volleyball.

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Love, Austin.

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They split a series loop,

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beating Madison and then losing to

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Atlanta.

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So, and we haven't even gotten to

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the marquee event because as

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listeners know of almost Saturday,

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the Austin F C began their

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season over the weekend.

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That's right. Q2 stadium.

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And, uh, while, you know,

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it is, uh.

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They drew two, two against

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Minnesota and there's some, some

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draws that are feel like wins,

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some that feel like losses and.

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Minnesota did tie the score,

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like, the last minute of regulation

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time,

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they,

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I think most fans feel

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fairly optimistic.

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There was offense, there was offense

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generated by Mirto

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Zuni and Robert Taylor, who had

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tough seasons last season, and

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the fans let them know about it.

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So I think there are moments

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from takeaways from Saturday

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that kind of keep most Austin

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fans optimistic.

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I think Minnesota was it.

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Playoff team last year who knows

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what they'll be this year, but you

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know this reasonably good start

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of offense for Austin FC

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Last week we had your co-host Juan

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Diego Garcia on the show and

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he mentioned Mirto Uzuni

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as a guy who maybe might have

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00:22:25,140 --> 00:22:26,819
he was keeping his eye out on this

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00:22:26,820 --> 00:22:28,579
guy especially with the signing of

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Facundo Torres.

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Like you said some draws and not all

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draws are equal Austin FC did

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put up two goals in this

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one.

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Does that make you feel a

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00:22:38,500 --> 00:22:39,619
little bit better about their

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00:22:39,620 --> 00:22:41,139
chances this year to put more goals

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00:22:41,140 --> 00:22:42,079
on the scoreboard?

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There was strong build-up play

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throughout possession.

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Like, Minnesota was, at least last

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season, a quality opponent.

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00:22:49,060 --> 00:22:50,679
There's no reason to expect them not

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to be this season.

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It was the return of Josh

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Wolfe to this, he's

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an assistant coach at Minnesota.

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Oh, I didn't realize that.

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Yeah, so it was, you know, there

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00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:01,959
were little tiny storylines

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00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:03,799
throughout, but I think overall

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there's room for optimism for

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00:23:06,180 --> 00:23:07,379
Austin FC fans.

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And that, they will, they

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have another home game this weekend.

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And that's another busy weekend

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ahead for us here in Austin.

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NASCAR is back in town at Circuit

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of the Americas.

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And the ATX Open, the Women's Tennis

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00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,599
Association event, is happening.

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00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:24,779
And that is taking off

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Venus Williams, Tennis Great Venus

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00:23:26,140 --> 00:23:28,379
Williams and Peyton Stearns,

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the ex-Longhorn, they'll be playing

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00:23:29,540 --> 00:23:30,169
tomorrow.

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00:23:30,170 --> 00:23:32,049
All right, lots happening, as

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we said. It's a busy time

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for sports fans.

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Lots to enjoy out there.

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That is KUT program director

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Jimmy Moss. Jimmy, thanks for being

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on the show. Thank you.

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00:23:40,490 --> 00:23:42,329
And thank you out there for spending

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00:23:42,330 --> 00:23:44,649
some time with us on this Monday.

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Special thanks to Renee Chavez and

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Casey Cheek for their help with

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today's show.

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I'm your host, Jerry Kehannel.

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We will be back with you tomorrow.

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Talk then.

