1 00:00:08,870 --> 00:00:10,709 The CDC reduced earlier this 2 00:00:10,710 --> 00:00:11,889 month the number of usually 3 00:00:11,890 --> 00:00:13,949 recommended vaccines for children. 4 00:00:13,950 --> 00:00:15,329 Now that change has flummoxed some 5 00:00:15,330 --> 00:00:16,969 parents and pediatricians in the 6 00:00:16,970 --> 00:00:18,209 area. We're going to hear some of 7 00:00:18,210 --> 00:00:19,489 the questions that they have been 8 00:00:19,490 --> 00:00:20,329 asking. 9 00:00:20,330 --> 00:00:21,929 And it's been more than six months 10 00:00:21,930 --> 00:00:23,569 since deadly flooding killed more 11 00:00:23,570 --> 00:00:25,529 than 130 people across the Austin 12 00:00:25,530 --> 00:00:27,709 area and the Texas Hill country. 13 00:00:27,710 --> 00:00:29,609 And recovery is still a long ways 14 00:00:29,610 --> 00:00:30,829 down the road. 15 00:00:30,830 --> 00:00:32,228 An update from some of folks still 16 00:00:32,229 --> 00:00:34,069 working through that process that's 17 00:00:34,070 --> 00:00:36,109 coming up in today's show. 18 00:00:36,110 --> 00:00:38,009 The Austin Signal is a production 19 00:00:38,010 --> 00:00:40,109 of KUT News, hosted by 20 00:00:40,110 --> 00:00:41,139 Jerry Quijano. 21 00:00:41,140 --> 00:00:43,319 Plus, the ATX Free Fridge project 22 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:45,139 has been filling in the gaps of food 23 00:00:45,140 --> 00:00:46,979 access across the Austin area for 24 00:00:46,980 --> 00:00:48,779 more than half a decade, but the 25 00:00:48,780 --> 00:00:50,239 project itself could use a little 26 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:51,979 love and help these days. 27 00:00:51,980 --> 00:00:54,139 That story and a whole lot more 28 00:00:54,140 --> 00:00:56,559 coming your way, that is on today's 29 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:57,560 Austin Signal. 30 00:01:08,700 --> 00:01:10,599 Howdy out there, this is 31 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:11,919 Austin Signal. 32 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:13,679 Thank you for making us part of your 33 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,419 day. It is Wednesday, January 13th. 34 00:01:16,420 --> 00:01:17,999 I'm your host, Jerry Quijano. 35 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:19,839 Let's get into today's 36 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:20,840 show. 37 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,019 Changes in the Centers for Disease 38 00:01:23,020 --> 00:01:24,459 Control and Prevention's new vaccine 39 00:01:24,460 --> 00:01:25,559 recommendations are causing 40 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:27,499 questions among some parents and 41 00:01:27,500 --> 00:01:28,599 raising eyebrows among 42 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:29,879 pediatricians. 43 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,519 So what is going on and how are 44 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,159 folks around here feeling about it? 45 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:34,359 Well, to answer some of those 46 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:36,079 questions, we are talking with KUT's 47 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,428 healthcare reporter. 48 00:01:37,429 --> 00:01:38,269 Olivia Aldridge. 49 00:01:38,270 --> 00:01:39,519 Olivia, thanks for joining us. 50 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:40,659 Hi, I'm glad to be here. 51 00:01:40,660 --> 00:01:42,639 So for folks who might not 52 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:44,199 be familiar with the change, what 53 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,139 specifically did the CDC alter 54 00:01:46,140 --> 00:01:46,749 here? 55 00:01:46,750 --> 00:01:48,909 Yeah, the CDC announced a pretty big 56 00:01:48,910 --> 00:01:50,929 overhaul of its recommended vaccine 57 00:01:50,930 --> 00:01:52,149 schedule. 58 00:01:52,150 --> 00:01:54,029 So previously, that schedule 59 00:01:54,030 --> 00:01:56,349 basically included 17 vaccines 60 00:01:56,350 --> 00:01:58,929 plus an antibody treatment for RSV 61 00:01:58,930 --> 00:02:01,009 recommended for all kids at 62 00:02:01,010 --> 00:02:02,709 various ages in their life. 63 00:02:02,710 --> 00:02:04,569 Now there are only 11 vaccines 64 00:02:04,570 --> 00:02:05,869 recommended for kids. 65 00:02:05,870 --> 00:02:07,849 And those other six 66 00:02:07,850 --> 00:02:09,909 were kind of moved into different 67 00:02:09,910 --> 00:02:11,328 categories. 68 00:02:11,329 --> 00:02:13,169 So, now they're recommended either 69 00:02:13,170 --> 00:02:15,169 for kids at especially high risk 70 00:02:15,170 --> 00:02:17,089 of severe disease or for patients 71 00:02:17,090 --> 00:02:19,149 who have gone through what's called 72 00:02:19,150 --> 00:02:21,349 a shared clinical decision-making 73 00:02:21,350 --> 00:02:23,129 process with their doctor. 74 00:02:23,130 --> 00:02:24,849 So, essentially, that's just parents 75 00:02:24,850 --> 00:02:26,669 chatting with the kid's pediatrician 76 00:02:26,670 --> 00:02:28,289 and deciding whether to give them 77 00:02:28,290 --> 00:02:29,290 that vaccine. 78 00:02:30,150 --> 00:02:32,089 The shots affected here that 79 00:02:32,090 --> 00:02:33,089 are moved into those other 80 00:02:33,090 --> 00:02:35,069 categories are that RSV 81 00:02:35,070 --> 00:02:37,069 treatment And I mentioned hepatitis 82 00:02:37,070 --> 00:02:39,359 A and B, meningitis. 83 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,439 COVID-19, the flu shot, 84 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:42,979 and then rotavirus, which is a 85 00:02:42,980 --> 00:02:44,699 common infection that causes 86 00:02:44,700 --> 00:02:46,659 vomiting and diarrhea. 87 00:02:46,660 --> 00:02:48,659 And I want to add that this 88 00:02:48,660 --> 00:02:50,159 isn't a requirement. 89 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:51,899 It's actually states that make 90 00:02:51,900 --> 00:02:53,819 requirements about shots that kids 91 00:02:53,820 --> 00:02:55,419 need for school. 92 00:02:55,420 --> 00:02:56,639 But many of these state laws 93 00:02:56,640 --> 00:02:58,879 reference the CDC guidelines. 94 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,419 And those guidelines are also just 95 00:03:00,420 --> 00:03:01,959 an important resource for public 96 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:03,719 health departments, health care 97 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,199 professionals, and then the general 98 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:05,809 public. 99 00:03:05,810 --> 00:03:06,889 Okay, well, our listeners are 100 00:03:06,890 --> 00:03:08,349 certainly going to be concerned 101 00:03:08,350 --> 00:03:10,369 about how Texans and Austinites 102 00:03:10,370 --> 00:03:11,869 could be affected. 103 00:03:11,870 --> 00:03:13,269 What has been the general reaction 104 00:03:13,270 --> 00:03:15,489 to this recommended change among 105 00:03:15,490 --> 00:03:16,709 pediatricians that you've spoken 106 00:03:16,710 --> 00:03:17,519 with? 107 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,259 There has been some confusion, I'd 108 00:03:19,260 --> 00:03:21,019 say, around like, why these 109 00:03:21,020 --> 00:03:22,419 vaccines? 110 00:03:22,420 --> 00:03:24,219 Because it's not the case that there 111 00:03:24,220 --> 00:03:26,199 was some new study that shed doubt 112 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,379 on any of these specific shots. 113 00:03:28,380 --> 00:03:29,580 The science is the same. 114 00:03:30,900 --> 00:03:32,759 So one pediatrician that I spoke 115 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,879 to is now sticking to the vaccine 116 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,379 schedule endorsed by the American 117 00:03:36,380 --> 00:03:38,199 Academy of Pediatrics, which 118 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,979 aligns with that previous CDC 119 00:03:39,980 --> 00:03:41,969 schedule with the 17 shots. 120 00:03:41,970 --> 00:03:43,329 That's common. 121 00:03:43,330 --> 00:03:45,349 It's also true in some cases at the 122 00:03:45,350 --> 00:03:46,649 organizational level. 123 00:03:46,650 --> 00:03:48,049 So like Austin regional clinic 124 00:03:48,050 --> 00:03:50,089 pediatrics Texas children's 125 00:03:50,090 --> 00:03:51,809 are basing recommendations on that 126 00:03:51,810 --> 00:03:53,429 American Academy of Pediatrics 127 00:03:53,430 --> 00:03:54,119 guidance 128 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:56,279 Okay, so now let's talk about the 129 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:57,959 parental side of it. 130 00:03:57,960 --> 00:03:59,319 How have parents been reacting to 131 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:00,320 this news? 132 00:04:00,930 --> 00:04:01,929 Yeah. 133 00:04:01,930 --> 00:04:03,669 Um, I think there's a lot of 134 00:04:03,670 --> 00:04:04,469 confusion. 135 00:04:04,470 --> 00:04:06,709 So, you know, one 136 00:04:06,710 --> 00:04:09,649 pediatrician that I talked to, um, 137 00:04:09,650 --> 00:04:11,169 said that she immediately started to 138 00:04:11,170 --> 00:04:12,489 get questions from parents that were 139 00:04:12,490 --> 00:04:14,189 like, what is this all about? 140 00:04:14,190 --> 00:04:16,009 Um, just generally a lot confusion 141 00:04:16,010 --> 00:04:17,949 about what information can 142 00:04:17,950 --> 00:04:19,809 I trust that's not totally 143 00:04:19,810 --> 00:04:21,849 new. So this pediatrician, 144 00:04:21,850 --> 00:04:23,749 Dr. Marjan Linel, um. 145 00:04:23,750 --> 00:04:25,289 Even before this, she was getting a 146 00:04:25,290 --> 00:04:27,009 lot more questions, running into a 147 00:04:27,010 --> 00:04:28,829 lot More skepticism, you. 148 00:04:28,830 --> 00:04:30,409 Remember, the country's top health 149 00:04:30,410 --> 00:04:31,309 official, Robert F. 150 00:04:31,310 --> 00:04:32,369 Kennedy Jr. 151 00:04:32,370 --> 00:04:34,249 Is a pretty prominent anti-vaccine 152 00:04:34,250 --> 00:04:35,969 activist, and there's a lot of 153 00:04:35,970 --> 00:04:37,449 misinformation floating around on 154 00:04:37,450 --> 00:04:38,450 social media. 155 00:04:40,190 --> 00:04:41,429 So in Texas, parents do have some 156 00:04:41,430 --> 00:04:42,229 choice. 157 00:04:42,230 --> 00:04:43,409 So the state has vaccine 158 00:04:43,410 --> 00:04:44,409 requirements for kids entering 159 00:04:44,410 --> 00:04:46,229 school, but it's possible to seek an 160 00:04:46,230 --> 00:04:48,129 exemption. So she really tries to 161 00:04:48,130 --> 00:04:50,189 meet parents' concerns with 162 00:04:50,190 --> 00:04:52,169 care and give 163 00:04:52,170 --> 00:04:53,869 them the best information she can so 164 00:04:53,870 --> 00:04:55,949 that they can make an informed 165 00:04:55,950 --> 00:04:58,499 choice. She often sends folks. 166 00:04:58,500 --> 00:05:00,339 To some online resources from the 167 00:05:00,340 --> 00:05:02,119 Children's Hospital of Pennsylvania, 168 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:03,479 which have some really detailed 169 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,489 information about what's safe. 170 00:05:05,490 --> 00:05:07,429 OK, lastly, along those lines, 171 00:05:07,430 --> 00:05:08,789 we have about 30 seconds left. 172 00:05:08,790 --> 00:05:10,629 I know right now sickness is on 173 00:05:10,630 --> 00:05:12,629 a lot of people's minds, flu, what 174 00:05:12,630 --> 00:05:14,769 have you. What is the flu vaccine 175 00:05:14,770 --> 00:05:15,989 recommendation? 176 00:05:15,990 --> 00:05:17,429 And is that affected in any of this 177 00:05:17,430 --> 00:05:18,430 that's going on? 178 00:05:18,950 --> 00:05:20,769 It is affected for 179 00:05:20,770 --> 00:05:22,749 for kids. The CDC isn't officially 180 00:05:22,750 --> 00:05:24,189 recommending it for all kids anymore 181 00:05:24,190 --> 00:05:26,009 But right now during this very 182 00:05:26,010 --> 00:05:28,009 active flu season a lot of public 183 00:05:28,010 --> 00:05:29,529 health leaders are urging people 184 00:05:29,530 --> 00:05:31,389 young and old to get it It 185 00:05:31,390 --> 00:05:32,689 can help prevent those really 186 00:05:32,690 --> 00:05:34,329 serious flu cases that can put 187 00:05:34,330 --> 00:05:35,559 people in the hospital 188 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:36,739 All right, we have been speaking 189 00:05:36,740 --> 00:05:39,059 with KUT's healthcare reporter, 190 00:05:39,060 --> 00:05:39,899 Olivia Aldridge. 191 00:05:39,900 --> 00:05:41,359 You can find more of her reporting 192 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,499 on this story and others at 193 00:05:43,500 --> 00:05:45,319 KUT.org, and we're 194 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:46,359 going to have it in our show notes 195 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:47,619 for today's show. 196 00:05:47,620 --> 00:05:48,599 Olivia, thanks for coming on the 197 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:49,600 show. 198 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:57,479 This is Austin Signal. 199 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,139 Thank you for being with us. 200 00:05:59,140 --> 00:06:00,759 It's been six months since 201 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,379 catastrophic flooding tore through 202 00:06:02,380 --> 00:06:04,379 the Texas Hill Country, killing more 203 00:06:04,380 --> 00:06:06,679 than 130 people. 204 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,179 As the Texas newsroom's Lucio 205 00:06:08,180 --> 00:06:10,459 Vasquez reports, recovery is 206 00:06:10,460 --> 00:06:12,160 still far from complete. 207 00:06:13,590 --> 00:06:15,509 It was just after midnight on July 208 00:06:15,510 --> 00:06:17,449 4th, Joe Herrera said the 209 00:06:17,450 --> 00:06:19,329 rain sounded normal at first. 210 00:06:19,330 --> 00:06:20,470 Then it didn't stop. 211 00:06:21,670 --> 00:06:23,189 Herrera, who has Parkinson's 212 00:06:23,190 --> 00:06:24,809 disease, lives with his wife near 213 00:06:24,810 --> 00:06:26,709 the Guadalupe River in Kerr County, 214 00:06:26,710 --> 00:06:27,589 Texas. 215 00:06:27,590 --> 00:06:29,489 As the rain intensified, the river 216 00:06:29,490 --> 00:06:30,789 began to rise. 217 00:06:30,790 --> 00:06:32,749 The water was all the way into the 218 00:06:32,750 --> 00:06:35,089 garage, pretty deep already, 219 00:06:35,090 --> 00:06:35,989 within minutes. 220 00:06:35,990 --> 00:06:37,909 As it kept rising, a neighbor came 221 00:06:37,910 --> 00:06:39,809 to check on them, tied a rope around 222 00:06:39,810 --> 00:06:41,489 Herrera and helped pull him to 223 00:06:41,490 --> 00:06:43,249 safety. They survived, but their 224 00:06:43,250 --> 00:06:44,929 home was badly damaged. 225 00:06:44,930 --> 00:06:46,949 Their car was destroyed. 226 00:06:46,950 --> 00:06:48,789 Still, Herrera says he's happy to be 227 00:06:48,790 --> 00:06:50,649 alive. He says he was back in his 228 00:06:50,650 --> 00:06:52,149 home two months later. 229 00:06:52,150 --> 00:06:53,829 Hundreds of other people weren't so 230 00:06:53,830 --> 00:06:54,519 lucky. 231 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:55,999 Every day, I pray to God, thank you 232 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:56,839 for what I have. 233 00:06:56,840 --> 00:06:58,819 In a matter of hours, the river rose 234 00:06:58,820 --> 00:07:00,519 up to 37 feet. 235 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,439 The region is expected to lose up to 236 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:04,319 $22 billion in damage 237 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,119 and economic losses. 238 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:07,959 Recovery is far from complete, 239 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,599 but daily life has largely resumed. 240 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,459 Shops are open, restaurants are 241 00:07:13,460 --> 00:07:15,279 busy, traffic moves steadily 242 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:16,899 along bridges that were once 243 00:07:16,900 --> 00:07:17,899 underwater. 244 00:07:17,900 --> 00:07:20,259 The Guadalupe River is quiet now. 245 00:07:20,260 --> 00:07:22,219 But walk closer to the river and 246 00:07:22,220 --> 00:07:23,059 the gaps appear. 247 00:07:23,060 --> 00:07:24,999 Empty lots where homes once 248 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,969 stood. Fresh dirt where foundations 249 00:07:26,970 --> 00:07:28,249 were washed away. 250 00:07:28,250 --> 00:07:30,429 The beauty and the calmness 251 00:07:30,430 --> 00:07:31,689 of that river. 252 00:07:31,690 --> 00:07:33,309 And to see the damage that it's done 253 00:07:33,310 --> 00:07:35,009 is really hard for people to 254 00:07:35,010 --> 00:07:36,249 understand. And that's gonna take 255 00:07:36,250 --> 00:07:37,979 years to get over. 256 00:07:37,980 --> 00:07:39,599 Louis Amastoy is a resident and 257 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:41,039 journalist who's been covering the 258 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:42,919 flood for the Kerr County lead, a 259 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,719 local online news source. 260 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,419 He says the landscape tells only 261 00:07:46,420 --> 00:07:47,719 part of the story. 262 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:48,859 These are people that have lived 263 00:07:48,860 --> 00:07:50,859 here their entire lives, you know, 264 00:07:50,860 --> 00:07:51,699 this is a pretty close-knit 265 00:07:51,700 --> 00:07:52,309 community. 266 00:07:52,310 --> 00:07:53,909 The flood was one of the deadliest 267 00:07:53,910 --> 00:07:56,449 natural disasters in Texas history. 268 00:07:56,450 --> 00:07:58,309 At least two people, including an 269 00:07:58,310 --> 00:08:00,609 eight-year-old girl, remain missing. 270 00:08:00,610 --> 00:08:02,449 And as the water receded, questions 271 00:08:02,450 --> 00:08:04,189 followed about whether people along 272 00:08:04,190 --> 00:08:06,229 the river were adequately warned and 273 00:08:06,230 --> 00:08:07,369 whether the risk was fully 274 00:08:07,370 --> 00:08:09,149 understood before the storm. 275 00:08:09,150 --> 00:08:10,969 There's a lot of questions to 276 00:08:10,970 --> 00:08:11,849 be answered. 277 00:08:11,850 --> 00:08:13,489 One of those questions centers on 278 00:08:13,490 --> 00:08:15,269 the accuracy of flood maps produced 279 00:08:15,270 --> 00:08:17,209 by the Federal Emergency Management 280 00:08:17,210 --> 00:08:19,329 Agency, an agency that has also 281 00:08:19,330 --> 00:08:21,189 faced criticism for its response to 282 00:08:21,190 --> 00:08:22,289 the disaster. 283 00:08:22,290 --> 00:08:23,949 Former acting FEMA Administrator 284 00:08:23,950 --> 00:08:25,769 David Richardson was accused by 285 00:08:25,770 --> 00:08:27,649 some state and federal lawmakers 286 00:08:27,650 --> 00:08:29,549 of failing to show urgency as 287 00:08:29,550 --> 00:08:30,769 the crisis unfolded. 288 00:08:30,770 --> 00:08:32,689 He later defended the agency's 289 00:08:32,690 --> 00:08:34,069 response during a congressional 290 00:08:34,070 --> 00:08:34,719 hearing. 291 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,979 Texas got what they needed when 292 00:08:36,980 --> 00:08:37,819 they needed it. 293 00:08:37,820 --> 00:08:40,298 Richardson resigned in November. 294 00:08:40,299 --> 00:08:42,099 Also, some residents said emergency 295 00:08:42,100 --> 00:08:43,418 alerts on their phones were 296 00:08:43,419 --> 00:08:45,439 inconsistent or never arrived at 297 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:47,299 all. During a public hearing about 298 00:08:47,300 --> 00:08:49,199 a month after the flood, the Kerr 299 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:50,899 County officials responsible for 300 00:08:50,900 --> 00:08:52,379 sending those alerts said they were 301 00:08:52,380 --> 00:08:54,499 either asleep or out of town as 302 00:08:54,500 --> 00:08:56,339 floodwaters began to rise. 303 00:08:56,340 --> 00:08:58,339 But for some families, the last six 304 00:08:58,340 --> 00:08:59,299 months have been about 305 00:08:59,300 --> 00:09:00,459 accountability. 306 00:09:00,460 --> 00:09:01,999 Four separate lawsuits are now 307 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:03,699 moving through the courts, all 308 00:09:03,700 --> 00:09:05,129 connected to Camp Mystic. 309 00:09:05,130 --> 00:09:07,429 An all-girl summer camp where 25 310 00:09:07,430 --> 00:09:09,369 campers and two counselors were 311 00:09:09,370 --> 00:09:10,289 killed. 312 00:09:10,290 --> 00:09:11,649 The summer camp recently announced 313 00:09:11,650 --> 00:09:13,969 plans to reopen later this year. 314 00:09:13,970 --> 00:09:15,649 Kyle Finley represents families who 315 00:09:15,650 --> 00:09:17,339 were suing Camp Mystic. 316 00:09:17,340 --> 00:09:19,679 Have a child still missing. 317 00:09:19,680 --> 00:09:21,859 And instead of focus being on that, 318 00:09:21,860 --> 00:09:24,079 we're talking about trying to 319 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:25,659 open camp to gain additional 320 00:09:25,660 --> 00:09:26,959 revenue. 321 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:28,639 Attorney Michael Watts says 322 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,599 investments made by Texas lawmakers 323 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,379 after the flood should prevent 324 00:09:32,380 --> 00:09:34,319 another tragedy from unfolding. 325 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,059 There will never be a flood death in 326 00:09:37,060 --> 00:09:39,259 this river again because we'll 327 00:09:39,260 --> 00:09:41,419 have a warning system that we need. 328 00:09:41,420 --> 00:09:42,959 The state legislature approved 329 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,999 nearly $300 million for 330 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,339 upgrades to flood warning equipment, 331 00:09:47,340 --> 00:09:48,679 including new sirens along the 332 00:09:48,680 --> 00:09:50,339 Guadalupe River. 333 00:09:50,340 --> 00:09:51,939 Amistoy, who's been covering the 334 00:09:51,940 --> 00:09:53,619 disaster in the same community he 335 00:09:53,620 --> 00:09:55,659 calls home, says recovery is 336 00:09:55,660 --> 00:09:56,629 far from over. 337 00:09:56,630 --> 00:09:57,989 We still have missing people. 338 00:09:57,990 --> 00:10:00,229 And I think that's our community's 339 00:10:00,230 --> 00:10:02,429 responsibilities to ensure that 340 00:10:02,430 --> 00:10:03,529 they're not forgotten. 341 00:10:03,530 --> 00:10:05,389 Amistoy says uncertainty still 342 00:10:05,390 --> 00:10:07,269 hangs over the Hill Country, 343 00:10:07,270 --> 00:10:09,289 for survivors still rebuilding and 344 00:10:09,290 --> 00:10:10,609 families seeking answers. 345 00:10:12,850 --> 00:10:14,949 That was the Texas newsroom's 346 00:10:14,950 --> 00:10:16,269 Lucio Vasquez. 347 00:10:16,270 --> 00:10:18,329 You can find more from him 348 00:10:18,330 --> 00:10:20,209 and the entire newsroom over 349 00:10:20,210 --> 00:10:23,769 at KUT.org. 350 00:10:23,770 --> 00:10:25,269 Thank you for spending part of your 351 00:10:25,270 --> 00:10:27,249 Tuesday afternoon here with 352 00:10:27,250 --> 00:10:28,749 us on Austin Signal. 353 00:10:28,750 --> 00:10:30,589 Coming up, the ATX Free Fridge 354 00:10:30,590 --> 00:10:32,689 project has been in operation for 355 00:10:32,690 --> 00:10:34,689 six years, but they could use some 356 00:10:34,690 --> 00:10:36,729 help to keep the project moving 357 00:10:36,730 --> 00:10:38,599 forward. We've got that. 358 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,939 And the new year means new 359 00:10:40,940 --> 00:10:42,639 items available in the public 360 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,039 domain. Come here. 361 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:45,139 What's available? 362 00:10:45,140 --> 00:10:46,719 What can you mash up? 363 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,599 That's coming up next right here 364 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:49,740 on Austin Signal. 365 00:11:01,230 --> 00:11:03,529 This is Austin Signal. 366 00:11:03,530 --> 00:11:05,669 For more than half a decade, the ATX 367 00:11:05,670 --> 00:11:07,289 Free Fridge Project has been helping 368 00:11:07,290 --> 00:11:08,969 to fill the gaps in food access 369 00:11:08,970 --> 00:11:10,989 across the Austin area. 370 00:11:10,990 --> 00:11:13,029 People in need can visit one of five 371 00:11:13,030 --> 00:11:14,829 outdoor fridges to pick up free 372 00:11:14,830 --> 00:11:17,589 food, no questions asked. 373 00:11:17,590 --> 00:11:19,569 But as KUT's Katy McAfee 374 00:11:19,570 --> 00:11:21,369 reports, the project has recently 375 00:11:21,370 --> 00:11:22,910 hit a bit of a rough patch. 376 00:11:25,950 --> 00:11:27,909 Within 10 sunny minutes on Tuesday 377 00:11:27,910 --> 00:11:29,829 afternoon, seven people stopped by 378 00:11:29,830 --> 00:11:31,489 a refrigerator on South 1st Street 379 00:11:31,490 --> 00:11:33,049 and Ditmar Road to pick up free 380 00:11:33,050 --> 00:11:34,949 food. The fridge is covered by 381 00:11:34,950 --> 00:11:36,589 a wooden pergola with built-in 382 00:11:36,590 --> 00:11:38,069 shelves for dry food and clothing 383 00:11:38,070 --> 00:11:39,069 donations. 384 00:11:39,070 --> 00:11:40,529 There's also a bulletin board for 385 00:11:40,530 --> 00:11:42,149 folks to leave notes or sponsor 386 00:11:42,150 --> 00:11:43,649 community events. 387 00:11:43,650 --> 00:11:45,509 This is one of five fridges run by 388 00:11:45,510 --> 00:11:47,649 the ATX Free Fridge Project, 389 00:11:47,650 --> 00:11:49,169 which started during the pandemic to 390 00:11:49,170 --> 00:11:51,389 combat rising food insecurity rates. 391 00:11:51,390 --> 00:11:53,049 And it works sort of like a little 392 00:11:53,050 --> 00:11:54,499 library for food. 393 00:11:54,500 --> 00:11:56,079 Take what you need, leave what you 394 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,039 can. No paperwork, 395 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,479 no questions. 396 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,059 The project has taken off since the 397 00:12:01,060 --> 00:12:02,019 pandemic. 398 00:12:02,020 --> 00:12:03,899 A few years ago, volunteers put door 399 00:12:03,900 --> 00:12:05,459 sensors on the fridges and found 400 00:12:05,460 --> 00:12:07,659 they were opened, on average, 401 00:12:07,660 --> 00:12:09,979 300 times a day. 402 00:12:09,980 --> 00:12:11,319 Lannie Lee has been going to the 403 00:12:11,320 --> 00:12:12,959 Dittmar Fridge for years. 404 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,419 He says this resource has been 405 00:12:14,420 --> 00:12:16,559 lifesaving, especially late last 406 00:12:16,560 --> 00:12:17,879 year, when a government shutdown 407 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:19,779 delayed federal food benefits. 408 00:12:19,780 --> 00:12:21,879 I remember not having any 409 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:23,479 food, not knowing what was going to 410 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:24,919 happen, not knowing how I was going 411 00:12:24,920 --> 00:12:26,779 eat, and this place 412 00:12:26,780 --> 00:12:28,899 has taken care of a lot 413 00:12:28,900 --> 00:12:30,209 of people. 414 00:12:30,210 --> 00:12:31,929 But though these fridges are well 415 00:12:31,930 --> 00:12:34,069 frequented, not all of them are 416 00:12:34,070 --> 00:12:35,649 well cared for. 417 00:12:35,650 --> 00:12:37,289 Next to the cans of crushed tomatoes 418 00:12:37,290 --> 00:12:38,669 and vegetable soup at the Ditmar 419 00:12:38,670 --> 00:12:40,889 location is a pile of dirty, 420 00:12:40,890 --> 00:12:42,449 wrinkled laundry. 421 00:12:42,450 --> 00:12:45,029 Trash is strewn about the area. 422 00:12:45,030 --> 00:12:46,569 Lee says lately he doesn't want to 423 00:12:46,570 --> 00:12:48,779 open the fridge without gloves on. 424 00:12:48,780 --> 00:12:50,319 Everybody's touching everything in 425 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,239 there. There's germs and there 426 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:53,739 are some people that come and clean 427 00:12:53,740 --> 00:12:55,559 and help out. Lots of us do. 428 00:12:55,560 --> 00:12:57,519 We pick up the trash, but it's 429 00:12:57,520 --> 00:12:59,739 a never ending process 430 00:12:59,740 --> 00:13:01,649 to clean up and sanitize it. 431 00:13:01,650 --> 00:13:03,329 Stephanie Castleberry, one of the 432 00:13:03,330 --> 00:13:05,129 five volunteers heading the ATX Free 433 00:13:05,130 --> 00:13:06,669 Fridge Project, says the Dittmar 434 00:13:06,670 --> 00:13:08,269 fridge will close by the end of the 435 00:13:08,270 --> 00:13:09,789 month because keeping it clean has 436 00:13:09,790 --> 00:13:11,189 been impossible. 437 00:13:11,190 --> 00:13:12,689 A fridge on Second Street closed 438 00:13:12,690 --> 00:13:15,079 late last year for similar reasons. 439 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,879 Try like we put out the calls to 440 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,879 action we set up text chains to 441 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,119 like tell people hey this is going 442 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:21,959 on can you go clean it but it's just 443 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,679 not enough you know we need everyone 444 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:25,119 who's going to the fridges to just 445 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:26,899 take that step take care of it 446 00:13:26,900 --> 00:13:28,499 because the second street was a huge 447 00:13:28,500 --> 00:13:29,879 loss Dipmar is going to be a huge 448 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:31,259 loss for that neighborhood. 449 00:13:31,260 --> 00:13:32,979 There's a spreadsheet on the ATX 450 00:13:32,980 --> 00:13:34,419 Free Fridge website where community 451 00:13:34,420 --> 00:13:35,879 members can sign up to clean their 452 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:37,719 local fridge, but almost all 453 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:38,969 the spots are unfilled. 454 00:13:38,970 --> 00:13:41,249 You know, we're just five volunteers 455 00:13:41,250 --> 00:13:43,669 who like, we have day jobs, 456 00:13:43,670 --> 00:13:44,969 you know, we do this in our free 457 00:13:44,970 --> 00:13:47,129 time and like, um, we do our best 458 00:13:47,130 --> 00:13:48,309 to try to like, make sure the 459 00:13:48,310 --> 00:13:49,689 fridges are operational and 460 00:13:49,690 --> 00:13:50,849 everything like that. 461 00:13:50,850 --> 00:13:52,709 But like the people who are going 462 00:13:52,710 --> 00:13:54,769 to the fridge is regularly, 463 00:13:54,770 --> 00:13:56,509 we really need support from those 464 00:13:56,510 --> 00:13:57,389 full. 465 00:13:57,390 --> 00:13:59,229 Castleberry says, from the start, 466 00:13:59,230 --> 00:14:00,629 the Free Fridge Project has been 467 00:14:00,630 --> 00:14:02,969 rooted in, quote, anarchy. 468 00:14:02,970 --> 00:14:04,549 It's a way for community members to 469 00:14:04,550 --> 00:14:05,469 help each other out when 470 00:14:05,470 --> 00:14:07,769 conventional welfare systems fail. 471 00:14:07,770 --> 00:14:09,629 A key component of the project is 472 00:14:09,630 --> 00:14:10,629 anonymity. 473 00:14:10,630 --> 00:14:12,149 On one hand, that might make it 474 00:14:12,150 --> 00:14:13,549 easier for someone to get food when 475 00:14:13,550 --> 00:14:14,529 they need it. 476 00:14:14,530 --> 00:14:16,329 But less face-to-face interaction 477 00:14:16,330 --> 00:14:18,149 also makes it tough to ensure people 478 00:14:18,150 --> 00:14:19,829 are on same page about caring for 479 00:14:19,830 --> 00:14:20,609 the fridges. 480 00:14:20,610 --> 00:14:21,969 That's why we're trying to do more 481 00:14:21,970 --> 00:14:23,069 community meetings. 482 00:14:23,070 --> 00:14:24,989 And we started a Discord so 483 00:14:24,990 --> 00:14:26,289 that we can try to like connect with 484 00:14:26,290 --> 00:14:28,189 more people, get people talking 485 00:14:28,190 --> 00:14:29,309 to one another. 486 00:14:29,310 --> 00:14:31,449 And you know, hey, that's 487 00:14:31,450 --> 00:14:33,309 not how you're supposed to donate 488 00:14:33,310 --> 00:14:35,948 food. Like let's do this. 489 00:14:35,949 --> 00:14:37,369 Castleberry is hopeful the fridge 490 00:14:37,370 --> 00:14:38,629 project will make it through this 491 00:14:38,630 --> 00:14:39,829 rough patch. 492 00:14:39,830 --> 00:14:41,389 Volunteers have early plans to set 493 00:14:41,390 --> 00:14:43,489 up three more fridges in Montopolis, 494 00:14:43,490 --> 00:14:44,829 Franklin Park, and North Austin 495 00:14:44,830 --> 00:14:46,369 neighborhoods this year. 496 00:14:46,370 --> 00:14:48,049 And they aren't giving up on the 497 00:14:48,050 --> 00:14:49,309 Dittmar community. 498 00:14:49,310 --> 00:14:50,709 They're looking for a new place to 499 00:14:50,710 --> 00:14:52,269 put a fridge nearby and give the 500 00:14:52,270 --> 00:14:53,889 South Austin neighborhood a fresh 501 00:14:53,890 --> 00:14:55,809 start. I'm Katy McAfee in 502 00:14:55,810 --> 00:14:56,810 Austin. 503 00:15:01,740 --> 00:15:03,619 Technology has made it easier than 504 00:15:03,620 --> 00:15:05,279 ever for anyone out there to 505 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,339 reimagine a piece of music, 506 00:15:07,340 --> 00:15:09,699 a book, even a movie. 507 00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:11,319 And many artists battle to protect 508 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,719 their copyrighted work from the 509 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,779 algorithmic meat grinder 510 00:15:15,780 --> 00:15:17,639 in the parlance of our time. 511 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,559 But as the new year begins, more 512 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,439 creative works are now fair game for 513 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,359 anyone, human or machine, to 514 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,419 chop up, mash up, or glow up 515 00:15:25,420 --> 00:15:26,319 as they wish. 516 00:15:26,320 --> 00:15:28,139 Texas Standard's Shelly 517 00:15:28,140 --> 00:15:29,389 Brisbin takes a look. 518 00:15:29,390 --> 00:15:31,469 At what's newly free from copyright. 519 00:15:38,530 --> 00:15:40,989 Like clockwork, each January 1st, 520 00:15:40,990 --> 00:15:42,869 media historians, academics, and 521 00:15:42,870 --> 00:15:44,849 creators eager to remix works of 522 00:15:44,850 --> 00:15:47,049 art from the past celebrate Public 523 00:15:47,050 --> 00:15:48,429 Domain Day. 524 00:15:48,430 --> 00:15:50,489 On the first day of 2026, 525 00:15:50,490 --> 00:15:52,309 works of artwork from 1930 along 526 00:15:52,310 --> 00:15:54,809 with sound recordings from 1925 527 00:15:54,810 --> 00:15:56,489 lost copyright protection. 528 00:15:56,490 --> 00:15:58,809 Yes sir, that's my baby. 529 00:15:58,810 --> 00:16:00,909 No sir, don't mean maybe. 530 00:16:00,910 --> 00:16:02,809 Yes sir that's ma baby now. 531 00:16:04,270 --> 00:16:05,949 That means that anyone is free to 532 00:16:05,950 --> 00:16:07,929 adapt these works, from novels, 533 00:16:07,930 --> 00:16:09,709 comics, musical compositions, and 534 00:16:09,710 --> 00:16:12,409 films, in any way they like. 535 00:16:12,410 --> 00:16:14,349 For me, this public domain day 536 00:16:14,350 --> 00:16:17,009 marks a dividing line in time. 537 00:16:17,010 --> 00:16:18,909 1930 is the year of my mother's 538 00:16:18,910 --> 00:16:20,829 birth, so the way I imagine 539 00:16:20,830 --> 00:16:22,889 the modern world has always begun 540 00:16:22,890 --> 00:16:25,009 there, now 95 years 541 00:16:25,010 --> 00:16:25,948 ago. 542 00:16:25,949 --> 00:16:27,849 From my mother, I learned to love 543 00:16:27,850 --> 00:16:28,729 film. 544 00:16:28,730 --> 00:16:30,269 Sitting on the floor, watching old 545 00:16:30,270 --> 00:16:31,979 movies she'd grown up with. 546 00:16:31,980 --> 00:16:33,719 I became a passionate student of 547 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:36,039 film history, and I found that 1930 548 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,119 marks a bright line between early 549 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,239 clumsy examples of sound filmmaking 550 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,419 and the era when Hollywood studios 551 00:16:42,420 --> 00:16:44,559 and directors began making sound 552 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,899 masterpieces at all-talking 553 00:16:46,900 --> 00:16:47,689 epics. 554 00:16:47,690 --> 00:16:49,669 Give me a whisky, ginger 555 00:16:49,670 --> 00:16:51,049 in on the side, 556 00:16:52,690 --> 00:16:54,959 and I'll be stingy, baby. 557 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:56,999 Greta Garbo first spoke on film in 558 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,059 1930. 559 00:16:58,060 --> 00:16:59,939 The movie was Anna Christie, made 560 00:16:59,940 --> 00:17:01,759 by MGM and frequent Garbo 561 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,959 director Clarence Brown. 562 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,259 Garbo Talks was the tagline. 563 00:17:06,260 --> 00:17:07,879 And now creators are free to drop 564 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,979 her throaty Swedish accented voice 565 00:17:09,980 --> 00:17:12,139 into their own creations. 566 00:17:12,140 --> 00:17:14,239 Also in 1930, John Wayne 567 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,199 donned his first spurs and cowboy 568 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:17,539 hat and the big trail. 569 00:17:17,540 --> 00:17:19,279 Hello, Coleman. 570 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:20,419 Howdy, Walmart. 571 00:17:20,420 --> 00:17:21,999 Changed my mind. 572 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,699 I'll scout for that bull train after 573 00:17:23,700 --> 00:17:24,838 all. 574 00:17:24,839 --> 00:17:26,679 Well, that's a rare sunshine. 575 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,118 Take hands before you change your 576 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:29,099 mind again. 577 00:17:29,100 --> 00:17:31,069 Got a good wagon boss for the trip? 578 00:17:31,070 --> 00:17:32,929 And the Marx brothers first cracked 579 00:17:32,930 --> 00:17:35,669 wise on film in Animal Crackers. 580 00:17:35,670 --> 00:17:37,529 Louis' Milestones All Quiet on the 581 00:17:37,530 --> 00:17:39,369 Western Front was a new kind of 582 00:17:39,370 --> 00:17:41,369 war film in 1930 that 583 00:17:41,370 --> 00:17:42,969 centered the experiences of Germans 584 00:17:42,970 --> 00:17:44,629 who fought in World War I. 585 00:17:44,630 --> 00:17:46,229 It's still regarded as among the 586 00:17:46,230 --> 00:17:48,169 most important anti-war films ever 587 00:17:48,170 --> 00:17:48,619 made. 588 00:17:48,620 --> 00:17:51,039 And I, too, look to you, 589 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,979 Paul Balmer. 590 00:17:52,980 --> 00:17:54,819 I wonder what you are going to 591 00:17:54,820 --> 00:17:55,820 do. 592 00:17:56,139 --> 00:17:57,939 I want to go! 593 00:17:57,940 --> 00:17:59,219 Me too! 594 00:17:59,220 --> 00:18:01,219 I don't see that. 595 00:18:01,220 --> 00:18:02,479 The Kaiser's got everything he 596 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:03,479 needs. 597 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,719 Well, he never had a war before. 598 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,559 Every full-grown emperor needs one 599 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:08,979 war to make them famous. 600 00:18:08,980 --> 00:18:09,980 I'll tell you how it should be. 601 00:18:10,900 --> 00:18:12,979 In a kind of copyright twofer, 602 00:18:12,980 --> 00:18:14,659 a film called Cimarron and the book 603 00:18:14,660 --> 00:18:16,479 it was based on are now both 604 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:18,139 in the public domain. 605 00:18:18,140 --> 00:18:19,979 The movie won the 1931 Best 606 00:18:19,980 --> 00:18:21,819 Picture Oscar, and the books is 607 00:18:21,820 --> 00:18:23,659 by Edna Ferber, who would go on 608 00:18:23,660 --> 00:18:25,500 to write the Texas epic, Giant. 609 00:18:26,590 --> 00:18:28,789 It was called the Oklahoma Land 610 00:18:28,790 --> 00:18:29,709 Rush. 611 00:18:29,710 --> 00:18:31,149 We're going off to a brand new 612 00:18:31,150 --> 00:18:32,949 two-fisted rip-storm country. 613 00:18:32,950 --> 00:18:34,609 Full of Indians, random snakes, gun 614 00:18:34,610 --> 00:18:36,349 porters, and death parados! 615 00:18:36,350 --> 00:18:37,350 Whoopee! 616 00:18:38,190 --> 00:18:40,149 And a pioneer family helps turn 617 00:18:40,150 --> 00:18:42,169 a wild frontier into a proud 618 00:18:42,170 --> 00:18:44,359 state. Did you have to kill him like 619 00:18:44,360 --> 00:18:46,199 that? You know, I could have let 620 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:47,419 him kill me. 621 00:18:47,420 --> 00:18:49,279 Richard Dix and Irene Dunn 622 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,379 star in the only Western to ever 623 00:18:51,380 --> 00:18:52,799 win Best Picture. 624 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:53,800 Timuron. 625 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,239 William Faulkner's As I Lay Dying 626 00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:00,079 enters the public domain, and 627 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,179 1930 was a great year for detective 628 00:19:02,180 --> 00:19:04,079 stories like Dashiell Hemmett's The 629 00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,939 Maltese Falcon and the first 630 00:19:05,940 --> 00:19:08,019 four Nancy Drew novels by Carolyn 631 00:19:08,020 --> 00:19:08,939 Keene. 632 00:19:08,940 --> 00:19:10,679 For kids, there's A Little Engine 633 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,659 That Could, an illustrated edition 634 00:19:12,660 --> 00:19:14,659 by Wadi Piper that has been popular 635 00:19:14,660 --> 00:19:16,259 for generations. 636 00:19:16,260 --> 00:19:18,319 And 1930 marked the first appearance 637 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,299 of the characters Dick and Jane 638 00:19:20,300 --> 00:19:21,960 in Elson's Basic Reader. 639 00:19:23,010 --> 00:19:24,709 Cartoons and animated characters 640 00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:26,589 always attract remixers and 641 00:19:26,590 --> 00:19:28,369 adapters, as happened when the first 642 00:19:28,370 --> 00:19:30,329 Mickey Mouse cartoons became free 643 00:19:30,330 --> 00:19:32,209 to use a few years ago. 644 00:19:32,210 --> 00:19:33,909 This year, there are nine new Mickey 645 00:19:33,910 --> 00:19:35,749 cartoons up for grabs, but 646 00:19:35,750 --> 00:19:37,689 the big news is Betty Boop, 647 00:19:37,690 --> 00:19:39,589 the bubbly, high-voiced girlie who's 648 00:19:39,590 --> 00:19:41,429 already been reimagined across the 649 00:19:41,430 --> 00:19:43,929 decades in advertising and fashion. 650 00:19:43,930 --> 00:19:45,769 But now, the real thing, the 651 00:19:45,770 --> 00:19:47,749 original from Fleischer Studios, 652 00:19:47,750 --> 00:19:50,169 a more audacious version of Betty, 653 00:19:50,170 --> 00:19:51,170 is free for all. 654 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,439 But when I'm 655 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,319 having my lobsters, 656 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:01,599 I have to have 657 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,489 poop-poop-ba-doop-be-da-da. 658 00:20:03,490 --> 00:20:05,159 Oh, oh, oh! 659 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:06,739 If you're a copyright lawyer, the 660 00:20:06,740 --> 00:20:08,619 subject of music and public domain 661 00:20:08,620 --> 00:20:10,539 day might just keep you in small 662 00:20:10,540 --> 00:20:12,319 talk at any cocktail parties you 663 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,519 happen to attend. 664 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:14,999 But for the rest of us, music 665 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,299 copyright can get complicated. 666 00:20:17,300 --> 00:20:19,379 Music published in 1930, 667 00:20:19,380 --> 00:20:21,299 the notes and lyrics, is now 668 00:20:21,300 --> 00:20:22,619 free to use. 669 00:20:22,620 --> 00:20:24,119 George and Ira Gershwin's I Got 670 00:20:24,120 --> 00:20:25,759 Rhythm and Embraceable You are 671 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,179 included, as is Hoagy Carmichael's 672 00:20:28,180 --> 00:20:29,599 Georgia On My Mind. 673 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,339 But the famous Ray Charles version 674 00:20:31,340 --> 00:20:33,519 of Georgia recorded much later, 675 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,349 and Ethel Merman's I Got Rhythm. 676 00:20:35,350 --> 00:20:37,289 Recorded in 1930, by the way, 677 00:20:37,290 --> 00:20:38,629 are not. 678 00:20:38,630 --> 00:20:39,849 Copyright law has a special 679 00:20:39,850 --> 00:20:41,869 carve-out for sound recordings, 680 00:20:41,870 --> 00:20:43,669 giving them 100 years of protection 681 00:20:43,670 --> 00:20:45,829 instead of the 95 for music 682 00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:48,029 compositions and other works. 683 00:20:48,030 --> 00:20:49,769 This year, that means St. Louis 684 00:20:49,770 --> 00:20:51,889 Blues, recorded in 1925 685 00:20:51,890 --> 00:20:53,969 by Bessie Smith and featuring Louis 686 00:20:53,970 --> 00:20:56,269 Armstrong, enters the public domain, 687 00:20:56,270 --> 00:20:57,969 along with civil rights pioneer 688 00:20:57,970 --> 00:20:59,989 Marian Anderson's haunting version 689 00:20:59,990 --> 00:21:02,049 of Nobody Knows the Trouble I've 690 00:21:02,050 --> 00:21:03,050 Seen. 691 00:21:30,639 --> 00:21:32,459 O'er 692 00:21:32,460 --> 00:21:35,019 the land of 693 00:21:35,020 --> 00:21:36,020 the free and the home of the 694 00:21:40,380 --> 00:21:42,319 There's also Gene Austen's Yes Sir 695 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,239 That's My Baby and Fascinate in 696 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:45,719 Rhythm by Paul Whiteman and his 697 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:46,720 orchestra. 698 00:21:47,460 --> 00:21:49,039 Whiteman, by the way, is the subject 699 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,539 of 1930s King of Jazz, 700 00:21:51,540 --> 00:21:53,499 an inventive and sometimes surreal 701 00:21:53,500 --> 00:21:55,479 film that also enters the public 702 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,079 domain this year. 703 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,399 And if you're wondering, those 704 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,059 Whiteman songs within King of jazz 705 00:22:00,060 --> 00:22:02,059 are copyright-free now because the 706 00:22:02,060 --> 00:22:03,719 law says sound recordings that are 707 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,479 part of a film fall under the same 708 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,439 rules that the film itself does. 709 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,079 So feel free to work on your best 710 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:11,699 remix of Happy Feet. 711 00:22:11,700 --> 00:22:13,139 For the Texas Standard, I'm Shelly 712 00:22:13,140 --> 00:22:14,140 Brisbin. 713 00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,059 And that is it for today's 714 00:22:26,060 --> 00:22:28,019 show. Thank you to Olivia 715 00:22:28,020 --> 00:22:29,939 Aldridge, Lucio Vasquez, 716 00:22:29,940 --> 00:22:31,839 Katy McAfee, and Shelly Brisbin for 717 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,219 helping us cross the finish line 718 00:22:33,220 --> 00:22:34,979 today. If you're listening on the 719 00:22:34,980 --> 00:22:36,879 podcast, you can find more of their 720 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,419 reporting in the show notes for 721 00:22:38,420 --> 00:22:39,599 todays episode. 722 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,439 And as always, you can all of our 723 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:43,979 work over at kut.org 724 00:22:43,980 --> 00:22:45,859 slash signal. 725 00:22:45,860 --> 00:22:47,219 Kristen Cabrera is the show's 726 00:22:47,220 --> 00:22:49,219 managing producer, and Rayna Sevilla 727 00:22:49,220 --> 00:22:51,609 is the Signals technical director. 728 00:22:51,610 --> 00:22:52,729 I'm Jerry Quijano. 729 00:22:52,730 --> 00:22:54,269 We'll be back with you tomorrow at 730 00:22:54,270 --> 00:22:55,349 the same time. 731 00:22:55,350 --> 00:22:56,430 We will talk to you then.