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be undergoing some modifications in

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More gates, more flights, more

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Austin-Bergstrom, plus a major

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construction of a new water delivery

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Once it's finished, the system is

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expected to increase the water

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supply for Cedar Park, Leander,

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and Round Rock to 145

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million gallons per day and reduce

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vulnerability to drought.

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We've got those stories coming at

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you next.

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The Austin Signal is a production of

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Howdy out there, thank you for

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tuning in. This is Austin Signal.

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It's Wednesday, January 7th.

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We are completing our first full

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we're very glad you're spending part

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of it right here with us.

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This is listener-supported public

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radio, KUT News.

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I'm your host, Jerry Quijano.

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Let's get into today's show.

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The Austin Bergstrom International

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Airport will be undergoing a few

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changes in 2026.

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It's a story that KUT's

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transportation reporter, Nathan

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Bernier has been following.

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He was out at a press conference

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held at the airport this morning,

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and he's here in the studio with us

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now for an update.

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Howdy, Nathan. Hey, Jerry.

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So, take us back a little bit,

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I know this goes to August of last

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year, City Council approved an

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expansion to the airport, and also a

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new deal that made that expansion

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even bigger?

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this expansion really, it's been in

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the works for years.

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It got paused during COVID

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because, and, uh,

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and then after COVID

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people started flying in

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droves. Yeah. Yeah.

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The numbers really went up.

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expansion, but they never really

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knew exactly how big

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the expansion would be.

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something called Concourse B,

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and this is a standalone facility.

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least 20 gates connected to the

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existing Barbara Jordan terminal by

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an underground pedestrian tunnel,

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and the renderings show a moving

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walkway, so, you know, it'll make it

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a little bit easier for you, Jerry.

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Yeah, yeah.

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But, so anyway, what

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the city finally

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negotiated 10-year

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lease agreements with the seven

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biggest carriers.

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At Austin Berksham International

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presence, Southwest, Delta American,

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and those were finalized

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contracts give the

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of how much gate space

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these airlines are planning to lease

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over the next decade.

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example, that's slated to

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open in the early 2030s, so within

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the next decade.

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idea of exactly how much gate space

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we can get into that if you want to

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I mean, Southwest is looking to

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perhaps more than double its

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presence.

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the city the ability

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those contracts.

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now pegged at over $5 billion.

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City doesn't have that.

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come from property tax.

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I was gonna ask you, where does it

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are repaid with airport revenue.

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front, it's not all loans.

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know, the airport takes in a lot of

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money. They charge the airlines,

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they make a ton of money from

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parking. So you can think about that

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every time you stay in the red

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garage for a few nights, you're

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helping for the airport expenses.

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how many gates we are planning to

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open and the number is,

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you wanted me to say it?

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32 gates.

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people may be less familiar with

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that. That's going to have a

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until today, they're going to open

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with 26 gates most of those are

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going to southwest, they are going

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be the new anchor tenant of

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called Concourse M, M stands

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for midfield, so this is like

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a pre-manu, the

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term the airport official used with

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me was pre-engineered, a building,

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building in the middle of

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the airfield And you'll get to it by

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going down to gate 13 in the Barbara

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Jordan terminal, hopping on a bus,

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taking a three to five minute bus

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M. And that's gonna have six gates.

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the south terminal now where you

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literally walk onto the airfield and

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like walk up a flight of stairs to

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get on your plane.

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the tube, the tunnel you walk

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airlines committed to Concource M.

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like flight diversions or maybe

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charter flights. And they hope

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that they can convince.

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to use. Now, Allegianton Frontier

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are currently in the South Terminal,

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which is going to close in the

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spring, so they can knock it down

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and make space for more

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taxiways.

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operate there? I don't know.

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today. They said, you know, no one's

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be just in the Jordan terminal, as

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far as we know, as we know for now.

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Nathan Bernier. As I said, he was

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out at the airport today.

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He's gonna have more coming up later

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on KUT.org and

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we will have that story in our show

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notes. Nathan, thanks for coming on

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Glad to be here, Jerry, thank you.

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Alright, well central Texas cities

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get their water in a mix of

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ways. North of Austin, the Brushy

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just completed a major milestone in

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getting water to the residents of

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Leander, Round Rock, and Cedar Park.

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That's underground tunnels beneath

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Lake Travis.

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Kailey, thanks for coming on the

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Hey Jerry, how's it going?

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I'm doing pretty well, how are you?

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I'm good.

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Alright, so tell us about

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this project.

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What is it and why was it

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implemented in the first place?

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interesting. This project actually

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dates back about 20 years,

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all the way back to 2006-2007,

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which is actually when the cities of

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Cedar Park, Leander, and Round Rock

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came together to form the Brushy

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or as you might known as the BCRUAs,

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people say.

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Much simpler.

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decided was that these cities

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together was that they needed a

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safe and reliable, but more

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importantly, cost-effective way to

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supply water from Lake Travis to

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these three fast-growing cities.

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priority number one.

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Second, as we've gone through

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the years, we've had some terrible

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droughts, right? We've covered that

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quite a bit at KUT.

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it was they needed to make sure that

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they were constructing a system that

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would be quote drought resilient

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right allow them to continue

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to draw water from Lake Travis even

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when those water levels drop.

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tunnels underneath Lake Travis,

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that's how they are planning to get

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their water. A few more steps to

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come, we're going to talk about

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that. First I want to ask, how do

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they get their water right now?

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You kind of need to know how we're

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currently getting our water to kind

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of understand how this new system

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is really going to help us out.

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Mm-hmm.

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use what are called floating barges,

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that you often see.

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And so we have these barges that are

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located all throughout Lake Travis

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and they have these pumps that

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are attached to the bottom.

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And that's how we actually pump

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water from the lakes and then those

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are connected to the pipelines that

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go to our water treatment plants.

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So.

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The problem with these barges

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though, Jerry, is that during

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extreme droughts they

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can actually sink and

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bottom out and at

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that point they're only gonna be

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pumping out sand and not water.

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So the idea is

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that with these new tunnels and by

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drawing water from deeper parts of

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Lake Travis, we won't have to

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worry about that during droughts.

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We'll still be able to continue to

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pump water just because we're in a

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deeper part of the lake.

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Okay, that makes sense.

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So tell us, as I said, this is a

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major milestone that these tunnels

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are completed, but there are still

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steps to be taken.

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What is the next one?

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Yeah, so again,

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really significant amount of work.

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This is a five year project.

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It started in 2022.

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So we're about three and a half

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years in now.

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They've completed all the

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underground components.

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So that was a big milestone.

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Still to be completed though is

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a big pump station which is

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gonna be able to pump all of this

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water.

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Mm-hmm.

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Back to our cities in Leander Cedar

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Park and Round Rock.

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And apparently Jerry is so big that

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they had to get these pump

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parts like custom made in

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Spain. So we have that

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to look forward to.

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And then also on top of that too,

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the BCRUA is also concurrently

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doing an expansion of its water

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treatment plant.

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So, you know, right now we're

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talking about drawing water from the

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lake. Well, that water isn't

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necessarily clean or ready to drink.

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So that's where the water treatment

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plan comes in.

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So. With the expansion of that,

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then the cities will see more

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available clean and treated water

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available as we go forward into the

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future.

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Excellent. Well, we have been

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speaking with KUT's Hayes County

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reporter, Kailey Hunt.

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We're going to have a link to her

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reporting in the show notes and over

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at kut.org

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slash signal.

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Kailey, thanks for talking with us.

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Have a great day.

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Thanks, Jerry, you too.

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And thank you for spending part of

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your Wednesday here with listener

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powered public radio.

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This is Austin Signal on

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KUT News.

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We're coming up on a break and after

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the break, you know, we've been

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talking all week long about

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resolutions and making yourself a

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little bit better.

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Perhaps you've given up alcohol to

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start 2026.

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That doesn't mean that your relaxing

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drink should be a blah one.

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We're going to have ways to spice it

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up, spruce it up and jazz up

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2026 that's coming up next.

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And it's right here on Austin

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Signal.

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This is Austin Signal, thank you

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for tuning in today.

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We are completing the first full

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week of 2026 today

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and for many of you out there, it

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might mean day seven without any

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alcohol.

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Now you've probably heard of dry

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January by now.

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Abstaining from drinking during the

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first month of the year has been on

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an upward trend recently, but

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for some this one month stint

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can also kick off the idea of a

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much longer break.

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And some folks are choosing to stop

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altogether and for many

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different reasons.

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And as more people are choosing to

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avoid alcohol, options for

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non-drinkers are also expanding

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beyond sodas and sparkling waters.

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Here to tell us more and share a

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few mocktail recipes, we're talking

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with Chris Marshall.

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He is the founder and owner of Sands

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Bar, an alcohol-free cocktail bar

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here in downtown Austin.

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Chris, thanks for joining us here on

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Austin Signal.

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Jerry, thank you so much for having

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me. We are glad to have you here,

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and we're excited to get these

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recipes. But before we start there,

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just because you're taking alcohol

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out of the equation doesn't

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necessarily mean that a nice

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relaxing beverage has to be

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a blah, right?

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Absolutely. I think there's a

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misconception around non-alcoholic

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beverages. People think that it can

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just be either soda,

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water, or just a sugar bomb.

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And I really do believe that adults

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deserve adult beverages that

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taste elevated and interesting.

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And that's, I think that's the

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beauty of Dry January.

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It gives everyone an opportunity to

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try something new.

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Yeah. And tell us a little bit about

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Sands Bar. How long have y'all been

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operating in Austin?

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Nine years.

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This is coming up on nine years

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and so we started off in East Austin

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a couple years ago and then moved

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downtown about three or four

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years ago and it's just

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been a remarkable journey

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just to watch this idea that

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I had a couple of years ago of

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non-alcoholic beverages really

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Transform into something that I've

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been able to start here and take off

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over the world.

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It's been really interesting to

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watch when I was

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in college, I definitely

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participated in alcoholic beverage

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consumption.

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And as I've

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run Sands Bar and just been out in

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the community, it's amazing to see

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how many people come into the

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bar and they're really excited about

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trying really great drinks.

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I think there's just a

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move away from.

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Socializing that's centered around

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alcohol. I think alcohol will always

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be a part of social life and

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we're not prohibitionist by any

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stretch of the imagination, but we

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do observe so

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many people who are just interested

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in a life without

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putting alcohol in the center of

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their socializing.

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And Austinites certainly enjoy

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going out and enjoying themselves

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with a nice drink, a nice meal,

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and doesn't mean that alcohol

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has to be part of that equation.

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So speaking of that, let's

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transition and talk a little bit

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about the recipes that you brought

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us today to share with

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our listeners. Let's start with the

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first one. What do you got for us?

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All right, I got a sage blueberry

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gin and tonic.

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Okay, that doesn't sound boring at

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all, you know? It doesn't sounds

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like, no disrespect to sparkling

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waters, I love my sparkling waters.

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But sometimes they'll just be like,

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lemon. Lemon Lime.

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Say that again?

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The sage and blueberry gin.

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Gin and tonic.

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Okay. So what is in that?

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So the first thing is a

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non-alcoholic spirit. I think that

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that's a really important thing to

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just kind of note off the top, that

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there are a lot of great non-

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alcoholic spirits that kind of

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mimic the flavor of

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spirits.

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There's a lot great nonalcoholics

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wines that do the same thing, that

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have the same

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profile that you would expect in a

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traditional wine without the

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alcohol. So this is a kind

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of a play on a gin and a tonic, we

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have some blueberry

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sage Simple Syrup

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We have a non-alcoholic

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gin and tonic water.

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So think of your G&T, give it a

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little bit of sage, that earthiness

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and just a bit of sweet on the

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blueberry. It really is a nice

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kind of spring to summer

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drink here in Austin.

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Yeah.

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Feels very fragrant,

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you know, I can smell that

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blueberry, I'm almost being

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crushed in the drink, it sounds

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delicious.

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Okay, let's go to the second one,

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what do you have for us there?

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So if you do like a little bit sweet

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and I'm a person who's kind of

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partial to sweet drinks.

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I think that there's nothing wrong

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with a little bit of natural

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sugar. So this one is

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something you can make today.

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You can go home and probably have

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the ingredients at home.

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It is what we call the lady bird.

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Whoa, that sounds good and sounds

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very Austin very okay.

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What what what do you what do we

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need to make that one?

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So for the ladybird, we have

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muddled strawberry, three

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or four sprigs of mint,

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half ounce of lime.

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I'm going to muddle that up really

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good. Throw some ice on top and

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you can top it with either club soda

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or my favorite ginger beer.

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And that way you got this

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really interesting drink that's got

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the citrus, it's got the mint, it

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all kind of working together to

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give you something that's just more

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than your typical ginger

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beer

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Okay, well I gotta say,

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I can feel my stomach rumbling.

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The muddling of strawberries, just

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those words together sounds very

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good.

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But I do have another question for

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you, brought to

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mind by the name of the first drink.

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It has gin and tonic in the name,

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even though it is a mocktail.

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And getting ready to talk to you for

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today's episode, we realize here

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at the show that mocktail, there's a

567
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kind of, it's a topic of debate.

568
00:16:43,940 --> 00:16:45,109
What is the dispute there?

569
00:16:45,110 --> 00:16:46,249
Yeah, I think there's a lot of

570
00:16:46,250 --> 00:16:48,289
debate around the

571
00:16:48,290 --> 00:16:50,649
word mocktail because for

572
00:16:50,650 --> 00:16:52,749
a long time mocktail just

573
00:16:52,750 --> 00:16:55,749
meant juice and soda.

574
00:16:55,750 --> 00:16:57,929
And I think this idea

575
00:16:57,930 --> 00:17:00,349
that that is an infantilizing

576
00:17:00,350 --> 00:17:01,949
word to use.

577
00:17:01,950 --> 00:17:03,189
Now I personally believe in

578
00:17:03,190 --> 00:17:04,588
reclamation and reclaiming what

579
00:17:04,589 --> 00:17:06,549
words mean and I believe that we can

580
00:17:06,550 --> 00:17:08,249
make mocktail mean something

581
00:17:08,250 --> 00:17:10,088
interesting and complex.

582
00:17:10,089 --> 00:17:12,189
You know these these

583
00:17:12,190 --> 00:17:13,629
recipes that I've given you today.

584
00:17:13,630 --> 00:17:15,108
Some have the non-alcoholic spirit,

585
00:17:15,109 --> 00:17:15,989
some don't.

586
00:17:15,990 --> 00:17:17,989
But I do think that we can,

587
00:17:17,990 --> 00:17:19,749
you know, kind of remix it and say

588
00:17:19,750 --> 00:17:21,529
non-alkalic cocktail or in a

589
00:17:21,530 --> 00:17:23,549
cocktail. Those are okay things.

590
00:17:23,550 --> 00:17:24,949
But look, I'm okay with mocktail

591
00:17:24,950 --> 00:17:26,469
because when I go to a bar and I

592
00:17:26,470 --> 00:17:27,789
order a drink, I want to be very

593
00:17:27,790 --> 00:17:29,429
clear that I want something that

594
00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:30,430
doesn't alcohol.

595
00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,019
All right, well I have one last

596
00:17:33,020 --> 00:17:34,839
question before you get

597
00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:35,839
out of here today.

598
00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,899
You mentioned that you're no

599
00:17:37,900 --> 00:17:39,939
prohibitionist by any stretch of

600
00:17:39,940 --> 00:17:41,819
the imagination, you used to partake

601
00:17:41,820 --> 00:17:43,279
in alcohol and now you run Sands

602
00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:45,319
Bar, an alcohol free cocktail

603
00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,179
bar.

604
00:17:46,180 --> 00:17:48,039
What is a piece of advice you would

605
00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:49,499
give to somebody who's trying to

606
00:17:49,500 --> 00:17:51,019
abstain from alcohol, maybe just for

607
00:17:51,020 --> 00:17:53,099
January, but who knows,

608
00:17:53,100 --> 00:17:55,119
like I said, maybe it'll grow into

609
00:17:55,120 --> 00:17:56,469
something bigger than that.

610
00:17:56,470 --> 00:17:58,069
Yeah, I would just say, approach it

611
00:17:58,070 --> 00:17:59,389
with curiosity.

612
00:17:59,390 --> 00:18:01,909
See what this month means to you.

613
00:18:01,910 --> 00:18:03,729
We have alcohol

614
00:18:03,730 --> 00:18:05,549
part of every part

615
00:18:05,550 --> 00:18:06,489
of our lives, right?

616
00:18:06,490 --> 00:18:08,849
From sports to socializing

617
00:18:08,850 --> 00:18:10,489
to philanthropy, right.

618
00:18:10,490 --> 00:18:11,949
Alcohol is everywhere.

619
00:18:11,950 --> 00:18:13,789
And just imagine what your life

620
00:18:13,790 --> 00:18:15,989
looks like when you remove alcohol.

621
00:18:15,990 --> 00:18:17,849
If you try to go

622
00:18:17,850 --> 00:18:19,649
on a break and you realize it's

623
00:18:19,650 --> 00:18:21,549
harder than you thought, that's just

624
00:18:21,550 --> 00:18:22,549
information.

625
00:18:22,550 --> 00:18:24,249
That's just your body and your brain

626
00:18:24,250 --> 00:18:26,069
saying that hey, I may lean on

627
00:18:26,070 --> 00:18:28,429
alcohol more than I realize.

628
00:18:28,430 --> 00:18:29,509
And if that's the case, there's

629
00:18:29,510 --> 00:18:30,789
always resources.

630
00:18:30,790 --> 00:18:32,649
But I believe that everyone can

631
00:18:32,650 --> 00:18:34,069
enjoy a great non-alcoholic drink

632
00:18:34,070 --> 00:18:36,069
and I enjoy having

633
00:18:36,070 --> 00:18:38,009
friends who do both, right?

634
00:18:38,010 --> 00:18:39,969
I think that there's just no shame

635
00:18:39,970 --> 00:18:42,149
or stigma in your

636
00:18:42,150 --> 00:18:43,689
relationship with alcohol.

637
00:18:43,690 --> 00:18:44,789
Excellent, we have been speaking

638
00:18:44,790 --> 00:18:46,689
with Chris Marshall, the founder

639
00:18:46,690 --> 00:18:48,289
and owner of Sands Bar, that's an

640
00:18:48,290 --> 00:18:50,429
alcoholic-free cocktail bar in

641
00:18:50,430 --> 00:18:51,409
downtown Austin.

642
00:18:51,410 --> 00:18:52,789
Chris, thanks so much for the

643
00:18:52,790 --> 00:18:54,429
recipes and for your time today.

644
00:18:54,430 --> 00:18:55,430
Thank you.

645
00:18:59,230 --> 00:19:01,009
This is Austin Signal.

646
00:19:01,010 --> 00:19:02,809
Thank you for spending part of your

647
00:19:02,810 --> 00:19:04,769
Wednesday right here with

648
00:19:04,770 --> 00:19:06,789
us. Let's talk a little live music

649
00:19:06,790 --> 00:19:08,029
now.

650
00:19:08,030 --> 00:19:09,609
Music in general, actually.

651
00:19:09,610 --> 00:19:10,809
Here to help us out is our friend,

652
00:19:10,810 --> 00:19:12,429
Maile Carballo from our sister

653
00:19:12,430 --> 00:19:13,889
station, KUTX.

654
00:19:13,890 --> 00:19:14,429
Howdy Maile. Hey.

655
00:19:14,430 --> 00:19:16,169
Hey Jerry, happy Love Austin Music

656
00:19:16,170 --> 00:19:16,369
Month!

657
00:19:16,370 --> 00:19:18,249
Happy Love Austin Music Month

658
00:19:18,250 --> 00:19:19,529
to you. I think that's why live

659
00:19:19,530 --> 00:19:21,229
music was on the brain, you know?

660
00:19:21,230 --> 00:19:22,869
Oh yeah. But before we talk live

661
00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:24,089
music, because I know we got a lot

662
00:19:24,090 --> 00:19:25,949
of cool live music happening this

663
00:19:25,950 --> 00:19:28,209
weekend here in Austin,

664
00:19:28,210 --> 00:19:29,929
KUTX started off the new year with

665
00:19:29,930 --> 00:19:31,849
some great news, lots of recognition

666
00:19:31,850 --> 00:19:33,289
and some nominations.

667
00:19:33,290 --> 00:19:34,349
Tell us about this poll.

668
00:19:34,350 --> 00:19:35,489
Absolutely.

669
00:19:35,490 --> 00:19:36,569
So what's happening right now?

670
00:19:36,570 --> 00:19:37,889
A little love. It's Love Austin

671
00:19:37,890 --> 00:19:39,369
Music Month, but the Austin

672
00:19:39,370 --> 00:19:41,369
Chronicle also just put out their

673
00:19:41,370 --> 00:19:43,369
44th annual Austin

674
00:19:43,370 --> 00:19:45,429
Music Awards Poll Nominations,

675
00:19:45,430 --> 00:19:47,309
nominated by just a

676
00:19:47,310 --> 00:19:49,789
slew of industry professionals,

677
00:19:49,790 --> 00:19:51,050
myself included, but-

678
00:19:51,051 --> 00:19:53,259
Oh, wow, humble brag.

679
00:19:53,260 --> 00:19:53,839
Yeah.

680
00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:54,919
I'm over right there.

681
00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:55,909
No, I'm kidding, but

682
00:19:55,910 --> 00:19:57,209
Well that's why we bring you on,

683
00:19:57,210 --> 00:19:58,609
because you are an industry expert,

684
00:19:58,610 --> 00:19:58,929
you know?

685
00:19:58,930 --> 00:20:00,789
That's precisely the reason

686
00:20:00,790 --> 00:20:01,929
why.

687
00:20:01,930 --> 00:20:03,709
But yeah, KUTX has gotten a lot of

688
00:20:03,710 --> 00:20:05,949
love alongside just amazing,

689
00:20:05,950 --> 00:20:08,329
amazing people in the industry.

690
00:20:08,330 --> 00:20:10,209
KUTx is nominated for best

691
00:20:10,210 --> 00:20:11,509
radio station.

692
00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:13,309
I believe Taylor Wallace also has a

693
00:20:13,310 --> 00:20:14,549
nomination for best Radio

694
00:20:14,550 --> 00:20:15,749
Personality.

695
00:20:15,750 --> 00:20:17,569
Mark Fort also, who is

696
00:20:17,570 --> 00:20:19,409
also on co-op radio.

697
00:20:19,410 --> 00:20:21,649
So just a city full of a lot radio

698
00:20:21,650 --> 00:20:22,339
love right now.

699
00:20:22,340 --> 00:20:24,339
Absolutely and also some

700
00:20:24,340 --> 00:20:25,819
love for our audio engineer Jake

701
00:20:25,820 --> 00:20:28,159
Perlman, you know, Jake, you don't

702
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,139
hear his work a lot But you hear him

703
00:20:30,140 --> 00:20:31,039
as an underwriter.

704
00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:33,419
You know his voice real smooth.

705
00:20:33,420 --> 00:20:36,059
Yeah. Yeah, and there is a real a

706
00:20:36,060 --> 00:20:38,299
Huge recognition a Susan Castle.

707
00:20:38,300 --> 00:20:39,309
What is she up for?

708
00:20:39,310 --> 00:20:41,249
Susan Castle, you know her, you love

709
00:20:41,250 --> 00:20:43,189
her, she's up for the Austin

710
00:20:43,190 --> 00:20:45,729
Music Industry Hall of Fame.

711
00:20:45,730 --> 00:20:47,689
So yeah, personally, I would love to

712
00:20:47,690 --> 00:20:48,889
see her in there because she

713
00:20:48,890 --> 00:20:50,789
deserves it just to the moon

714
00:20:50,790 --> 00:20:52,929
and back. I love that woman.

715
00:20:52,930 --> 00:20:55,089
But yeah, there's over 53 categories

716
00:20:55,090 --> 00:20:56,709
in the poll right now, anything from

717
00:20:56,710 --> 00:20:58,649
best band of the year, radio station

718
00:20:58,650 --> 00:21:00,989
to miscellaneous instrument

719
00:21:00,990 --> 00:21:02,969
player. So all of the recognition

720
00:21:02,970 --> 00:21:04,459
for all the great people out there.

721
00:21:04,460 --> 00:21:05,539
Yeah, we would love to see that

722
00:21:05,540 --> 00:21:06,719
recognition for Susan.

723
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,559
We are lucky at KUTX to

724
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,579
have had quite a few music

725
00:21:10,580 --> 00:21:12,259
industry hall of famers, Jay

726
00:21:12,260 --> 00:21:14,259
Trachtenberg and all these other

727
00:21:14,260 --> 00:21:15,359
folks.

728
00:21:15,360 --> 00:21:17,219
So how do people actually vote?

729
00:21:17,220 --> 00:21:19,299
Absolutely, so you can actually open

730
00:21:19,300 --> 00:21:21,479
up a physical copy of the Chronicle

731
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,599
and scan a QR code.

732
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:25,439
I know, I wish you could cast

733
00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:26,289
a ballot.

734
00:21:26,290 --> 00:21:27,529
Send in a ballot, yeah.

735
00:21:27,530 --> 00:21:27,530
Right?

736
00:21:27,531 --> 00:21:29,379
Right? But you can actually, at

737
00:21:29,380 --> 00:21:31,139
Free Week this weekend, they are

738
00:21:31,140 --> 00:21:32,839
having a show and you can cast your

739
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:33,939
ballot in person.

740
00:21:33,940 --> 00:21:35,819
But if you are on the interwebs,

741
00:21:35,820 --> 00:21:37,579
just as a normal person does on

742
00:21:37,580 --> 00:21:39,259
their day-to-day, you can casting

743
00:21:39,260 --> 00:21:42,119
your vote at vote.austincronicle.com

744
00:21:42,120 --> 00:21:43,639
Excellent. Well, get out there and

745
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,399
vote. I believe you don't have to

746
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:46,479
vote in all of them, right?

747
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,299
I believe like 25 maybe to get

748
00:21:48,300 --> 00:21:50,439
like a chance at winning a South by

749
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:51,480
something like that.

750
00:21:51,481 --> 00:21:53,629
Yeah, so if you do vote in over

751
00:21:53,630 --> 00:21:55,489
25 or more, you do get your

752
00:21:55,490 --> 00:21:57,329
name entered, your email entered to

753
00:21:57,330 --> 00:21:59,329
win a 2026 music

754
00:21:59,330 --> 00:22:00,479
wristband for South By.

755
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,519
Okay, well we have about 20 seconds

756
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:03,819
left. Do you have your free week

757
00:22:03,820 --> 00:22:05,069
plan ready for this weekend?

758
00:22:05,070 --> 00:22:07,169
I do. I will be seeing Tear

759
00:22:07,170 --> 00:22:08,649
Dungeon on Thursday, which is an

760
00:22:08,650 --> 00:22:10,269
unofficial free week show, but

761
00:22:10,270 --> 00:22:11,829
Mohawk, it's going to be great, and

762
00:22:11,830 --> 00:22:13,439
of course the KUTX show on Friday.

763
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,739
Absolutely, we had the KUTX

764
00:22:15,740 --> 00:22:16,899
Morning Drive Time host, Taylor

765
00:22:16,900 --> 00:22:19,019
Wallace, in with us on Monday to

766
00:22:19,020 --> 00:22:20,959
talk about the KU-TX Showcase

767
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,479
and a few more of her

768
00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:23,259
recommendations.

769
00:22:23,260 --> 00:22:24,839
You can listen to that over at

770
00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:26,979
kut.org slash

771
00:22:26,980 --> 00:22:28,319
signal. And we have been speaking

772
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,739
with Maile Carballo from KUTX.

773
00:22:30,740 --> 00:22:31,899
Maile, thank you for your time.

774
00:22:31,900 --> 00:22:33,219
Thank you, Jerry.

775
00:22:33,220 --> 00:22:34,899
And thank you out there for spending

776
00:22:34,900 --> 00:22:37,139
part of your day here with Austin

777
00:22:37,140 --> 00:22:37,959
Signal.

778
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,459
That's it for today's show.

779
00:22:39,460 --> 00:22:41,319
We'll be back tomorrow and we'll

780
00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,549
talk to you then.

781
00:22:42,550 --> 00:22:44,549
Kristen Cabrera is our managing

782
00:22:44,550 --> 00:22:46,389
producer and Rayna Sevilla

783
00:22:46,390 --> 00:22:48,849
is our technical director.

784
00:22:48,850 --> 00:22:50,509
I'm your host, Jerry Quijano.

785
00:22:50,510 --> 00:22:51,510
Talk to you then.

