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We're gonna talk about how that

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could affect folks here in our

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community. Plus, Austin has been

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vehicles, Zooks Robo

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Taxis, Waymo's, oh my,

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but Waymo has now issued

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a software recall after videos

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showed some vehicles passing stop

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We're gonna have more about that

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coming up on today's show.

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That's up next here on Austin

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Folks with a Blue Cross and Blue

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Shield insurance could be losing

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in network access to some Austin

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area facilities starting in 2026.

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That is, unless a new contract

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can be agreed upon before the new

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year. KUT's healthcare reporter

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at KUT.org, and she's

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joining us now on Austin Signal

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to tell us more about it.

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Howdy, Olivia.

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Hi Jerry.

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So let's start simple enough.

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Where is the dispute here?

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negotiate all the time to, you know,

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to strike a contract so that,

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system or those clinics or by,

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you know, a certain physician group

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will make it affordable if their

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insurance says this, you know, this

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this place is in network.

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hospital and facility agreements and

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kind of what this means is that this

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involves the reimbursement rates

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that Ascension gets from Blue Cross

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Ascension doctors and staff are

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providing at their facilities.

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basically feels that what Blue Cross

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enough to account for rising costs

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costs, and you know, general

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insured by Blue Cross Blue Shield

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here in Texas? It's a big name, you

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know, it's a lot of name

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recognition. How many people are

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like eight million people in Texas.

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We get our benefits through Blue

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Cross. It affects a lot of people.

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So let's talk about Ascension

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Seaton. How many facilities do they

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blue shield would lose in network

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access to those facilities, correct?

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emergency care.

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next question. I is there any leeway

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something big like a pregnancy or

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threatening illness or you're being

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what they're calling continuity of

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care, which essentially just means

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allowance to remain in network,

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Blue Cross is urging members to kind

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of call the number on their

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insurance card and speak

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doesn't account for their financial

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realities and they're asking at

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at this point Blue Cross to come to

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the table with a new proposal that

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does that. Of course Blue Cross says

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policy holders by trying to keep

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costs lower on their end and they

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contract disputes happen a lot.

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becoming more normal around here?

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eleventh hour contract deals

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early 2023, they kind

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of an extended deadline.

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see these things get resolved

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because it is a really big deal and

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significant for both the hospital

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importance when you're dealing with

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something like a life threatening

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illness, a pregnancy, or y as

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year or going into whatever you're

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going into with that uncertainty is

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never a good thing.

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story over at KUT

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dot org. It is from Olivia Aldridge,

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Austin has been a top testing

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ground for autonomous vehicles.

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On the streets, you might see the

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Tesla Robo Taxi,

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Amazon's Zooks.

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I love saying that word.

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And perhaps if you're on the road

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right now, you're watching a Waymo

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roll by those white cars

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with the spinny thing on top.

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recently of Waymo's illegally

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passing Austin ISD school

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busses when they're stopped.

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software for the Waymo vehicles that

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that there is a recall happening.

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bad behavior, illegal behavior

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around busses.

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the road? Is is the number changing

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taken any cars off the road.

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recall. The AISD actually

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had asked Waymo to stop

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running their vehicles during school

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drop off and pickup hours, but Waymo

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certainly are running in near the

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elementary school in my neighborhood.

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recall happened in other cities

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recall there. There were also there

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the recent school year?

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camera footage on the busses, and

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itself.

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Okay, so AISD has

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raised an a a complaint in

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this matter.

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Can you tell us more w what does

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that actually mean?

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So they sent a letter to the

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National Highway Traffic Safety

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Administration, which is a federal

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agency that supervises

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traffic laws in the in a big picture

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level, for for lack of a better

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way to describe it.

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And they've basically asked the

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agency to undertake an

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investigation of Waymo to find

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out whether it's the software that's

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at fault and why this is happening,

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specifically since it relates to

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school busses.

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And so that complaint

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with the video evidence went out.

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There's a there's a letter that you

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can find on the National Highway

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NTSA website that

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describes the school district

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complaints.

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And the district says

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that even since the software

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recall was announced by Waymo

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in mid November, there have been

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additional incidents and that's what

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occasioned the letter that they

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wrote to NHTSA on December

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third.

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So we have the Way Moses

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private company and we have the

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local school district, the Austin

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ISD. Is there a reason that this

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complaint went to the federal

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government?

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Well the N T T S

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A, which is very hard to say.

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That is the federal agency that

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deals with traffic regulations.

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Now the state regulations involving

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Waymo's specifically and and

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it all robotaxis, by the way,

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have to do with whether there is a

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driver in the car or not.

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Waymo's do not require that because

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they have a higher level of

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autonomous driving software than,

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say, the Tesla robotaxis, where they

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have to have a a safety driver

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in the front seat of the car.

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And so those are the kind of

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regulations that the state imposes.

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You may remember that some years ago

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the state legislature passed a law

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that the that prevents local

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governments like Austin's or like

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AISD from imposing any rules

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on robotaxis.

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So most of the regulation is going

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to come from either the federal or

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the state government.

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Okay, well I know that this

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complaint was just lodged recently.

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What happens next?

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It sounds like, you know, you said

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AISD asked Waymos to

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take their cars off the road, but

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you s have still seen them recently.

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Where where do we go next?

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Well, there is always the

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possibility that either Waymo would

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do another voluntary recall or that

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NHTSA

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would require them to take some sort

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of further action.

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The school district actually told

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the American statesman that they

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were pursuing their legal options.

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I'm not certain what those were, but

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I think the district is very

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concerned and so it's it's a story

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to continue to watch.

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Okay, well we will continue watching

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it here on Austin Signal.

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We have been speaking with Shelley

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Brisbane.

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She has been covering autonomous

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vehicles for Texas Standard.

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You can find more of her work at

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Texas Standard dot org.

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Shelley, thank you for joining us.

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Thank you.

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All right, well, thank you for

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spending part of your Tuesday here

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with us on Austin Signal.

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Just as a reminder, we're here every

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weekday from 1 until 1:30.

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And if you can't listen to the show

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live, that's okay.

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We are a podcast.

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You can find us wherever you listen

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to your shows.

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And you can find more shows by

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going to K U T.org

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slash Signal.

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Tonight at the Paramount in downtown

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Austin, they're hosting a night for

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Rich Brotherton, the awesome

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musician, producer, and teacher

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dealing with ALS.

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Patty Griffin, Charlie Crockett,

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and Lyle Lovett are joining in on

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the celebration tonight.

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And our old friend K U T X

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DJ Jody Denberg is going to

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be serving as the master of

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ceremonies.

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There might still be a ticket

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or two out there to find, but

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if you can't make it out tonight,

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you can still hear more about Rich

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from some of the people who know him

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pretty well.

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Austin Signal spoke with Andrea

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McGee, Pat Byrne, and Scrappy

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Judd Newcomb, who will also be

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performing tonight.

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You can hear more from them about

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Rich and about their musical

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connection. Again, K U

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T.org slash

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Signal.

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Well, we're coming up on a break,

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but after that, we are gonna talk

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about K U T X's

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artists of the month for 2025.

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Your morning drive time host Taylor

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Wallace is gonna be joining us.

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That's up next on Austin

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Signal.

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Thank you for tuning in to Austin

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Signal. We're nearing the end of

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2025.

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And we're gonna start taking a look

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back at the year that was here in

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Austin. Today we're talking about

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some of the K U T X artists of

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the month featured in twenty twenty

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five. You can find write ups on

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all the artists featured this year

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over at KUTX dot

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org. But right now to help us go

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through a few of them, we're joined

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by your K U T X morning drive time

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host, Taylor Wallace.

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Howdy, Taylor?

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Hello, hi.

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I'm gonna start off first with the

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band. I love when an artist takes a

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word and they you know take a letter

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out, they add some punctuation, they

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make things kinda funky.

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So tell us about Jacuzzi, Taylor.

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Jacuzzi was our July artist

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of the month and it is I

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call it art punk, but also cork

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punk. That's that's a me word, not a

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floating in the ether word.

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So jacuzzi, they

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are this duo of

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Gorge Bones and Trey Razzle

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Dazzle.

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And they Gorge

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especially has never been in a band

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before. And you wouldn't guess it

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from like, first of all, they're

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they sound fantastic, but then to

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see them live, they are

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ostentatious.

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I was just looking at the write up

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at K U Text dot org.

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They look like rock stars.

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Yeah. So to hear that is very

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surprising.

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Yeah, they're fantastic and

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they're playing this Saturday.

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If you haven't had the chance to see

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them yet, first of all, you can find

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their MyKUTX guest DJ

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set and their studio one A over on

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our website.

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But they are playing the holiday

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hootin' nanny that we are supporting

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this Saturday at Radio East.

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So not only can you see Shannon and

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the clams, Toon Yards and Rubble

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Bucket, you can see Jacuzzi

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as well.

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Alright, well let's hear a little

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bit from Jacuzzi right now.

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Next is a band that we featured as

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part of our hour-long Austin City

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Limits music festival special

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for Austin Signal.

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For those who are not familiar, tell

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us about Next of Kin and and the

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kind of year that they've had.

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Okay, Next of Ken has had a

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gangbusters year.

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Really? Their debut EP came out

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back in May.

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Not only one sold-out night at

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Continental Club, two sold-out

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nights. And it's a trio of Lily

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Hickman of Florin Fauna, also

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Madison Baker, and Kaylin

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Trelongo.

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They make up this trio, and it is

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all about the harmonies.

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It is queer country.

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Their cover of The Chain by

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Fleetwood Mac is transcendent.

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And they played ACL Fest this

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year. They also hooked up with

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Austin FC and they got to model.

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Austin FC did some sort of like

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live music merch

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line, and they got to model for

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that. It's like a fashion show kind

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of thing. Yeah, kind of, yeah.

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And they also got invited by

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Texas Monthly to do their like dig

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through our archives series.

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Cool. So all of that is exciting

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on its head, and who knows what's

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coming up. I foresee very

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big things for this trio.

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And we're presenting their New

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Year's Eve show at Antones.

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So all the info you can find that at

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K U T X.org.

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And they'll be joined by TC

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Superstar Nane and Quentin

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Arispe.

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Okay, cool, let's hear a little

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something from Next of Kin.

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Yeah.

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How right?

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Yeah.

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Come and find you

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When you kiss in the curb

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and bend from every bar

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See the ugly truth

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on its leg

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one of my favorite things that K U T

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X does is a lot of people on staff

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get a chance to speak with the

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artists. You actually got to do the

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interview with Next of Ken.

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What did you learn? What did you

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enjoy about spending time with them?

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Because I got to interview them and

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they are like all on the same

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wavelength, you know?

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There are so they are so insane.

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Agreed. And I think it's such a

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testament to women

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supporting women and women falling

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in love with other women, not

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romantically, but with their

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music and their spirit.

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And so all three of them had

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been fans of each other's.

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And then they all kind of got

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together and just kind of became

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like this immediate like sisterhood.

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And it I think that translates

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very, very well through their music.

567
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And it seems like it's been very

568
00:17:12,890 --> 00:17:14,328
organic for them, which is

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00:17:14,329 --> 00:17:15,219
wonderful.

570
00:17:15,220 --> 00:17:16,339
Yeah, you know, I think kinda

571
00:17:16,340 --> 00:17:17,859
naively I always assume that

572
00:17:17,860 --> 00:17:19,379
everyone in a band must like each

573
00:17:19,380 --> 00:17:20,739
other, but after speaking to them,

574
00:17:20,740 --> 00:17:21,779
it was like, wow, they are really

575
00:17:21,780 --> 00:17:22,659
their best friends.

576
00:17:22,660 --> 00:17:23,779
They actually like each other.

577
00:17:23,780 --> 00:17:25,459
Yeah, and it's so really cool.

578
00:17:25,460 --> 00:17:27,139
You can hear some of their their

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00:17:27,140 --> 00:17:28,899
interactions, some of their bon from

580
00:17:28,900 --> 00:17:30,739
that special ACL episode of

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00:17:30,740 --> 00:17:33,139
our show. That's at K U T.org

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00:17:33,140 --> 00:17:34,339
slash signal.

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00:17:34,340 --> 00:17:36,179
Okay, next up is September's Artists

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00:17:36,180 --> 00:17:36,979
of the Month.

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Now, Taylor, anytime I tell somebody

586
00:17:38,420 --> 00:17:40,179
that I work at K U T, they always

587
00:17:40,180 --> 00:17:42,179
tell me how much they love K U T

588
00:17:42,180 --> 00:17:42,979
X.

589
00:17:42,980 --> 00:17:44,339
And the point was a band that

590
00:17:44,340 --> 00:17:45,539
multiple people in the community

591
00:17:45,540 --> 00:17:46,979
would come up to me and say, They

592
00:17:46,980 --> 00:17:49,219
rock. The point rocks, I love them.

593
00:17:49,220 --> 00:17:50,659
Who are they and why do they have

594
00:17:50,660 --> 00:17:51,799
everyone so hyped?

595
00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:53,638
Okay, well, let me tell you this.

596
00:17:53,639 --> 00:17:55,158
We think Next of Kin had a

597
00:17:55,159 --> 00:17:56,999
gangbusters year and the point said,

598
00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:58,839
Hold my beer, which is takes nothing

599
00:17:58,840 --> 00:17:59,959
away from Next of Kin.

600
00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:01,079
But these guys went on tour with

601
00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,999
Mdumakhtar earlier

602
00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,239
this year. They played Levitation,

603
00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,479
they played ACL Fest,

604
00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,398
and they next year

605
00:18:09,399 --> 00:18:10,839
are going on tour with St. Paul and

606
00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:12,279
the Broken Bones.

607
00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,199
And they, as the person at K

608
00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:15,799
U T X who keeps up with all of the

609
00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,319
shows for all the artists we're

610
00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,239
playing, they keep me the most

611
00:18:19,240 --> 00:18:21,158
busy. I would say on average,

612
00:18:21,159 --> 00:18:23,239
I kid you not, four

613
00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,239
local shows a month on average.

614
00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,319
Like they are hot, hot, hot.

615
00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,999
And they have a show this Sunday at

616
00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:31,079
Antones where Adrian Quesada

617
00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:32,080
will be doing a DJ set.

618
00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,440
I'm leaving even mama,

619
00:18:44,120 --> 00:18:46,119
but I don't know where to

620
00:18:46,120 --> 00:18:47,120
go.

621
00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:49,719
I'm even leaving

622
00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:50,720
mama.

623
00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:55,479
But I don't know where to

624
00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:56,480
go.

625
00:19:00,430 --> 00:19:01,309
Very, very cool.

626
00:19:01,310 --> 00:19:03,309
Okay, lastly, Taylor, let me ask a

627
00:19:03,310 --> 00:19:04,429
a more personal question.

628
00:19:04,430 --> 00:19:05,628
What was your twenty twenty five

629
00:19:05,629 --> 00:19:06,749
year of music like here in the

630
00:19:06,750 --> 00:19:07,869
Austin scene?

631
00:19:07,870 --> 00:19:09,469
How are you feeling about the local

632
00:19:09,470 --> 00:19:11,149
scene as we move into twenty twenty

633
00:19:11,150 --> 00:19:11,859
six?

634
00:19:11,860 --> 00:19:13,379
I am very excited.

635
00:19:13,380 --> 00:19:15,939
I think our whole class of 2025

636
00:19:15,940 --> 00:19:17,779
paints a really good tapestry that

637
00:19:17,780 --> 00:19:19,779
everything from RB,

638
00:19:19,780 --> 00:19:22,579
hip hop, country, rock,

639
00:19:22,580 --> 00:19:24,419
punk, it's all here and it's

640
00:19:24,420 --> 00:19:26,179
all happening. And I really think

641
00:19:26,180 --> 00:19:27,939
we've got several of our artists of

642
00:19:27,940 --> 00:19:29,939
the month from this year

643
00:19:29,940 --> 00:19:31,619
that really are not only great

644
00:19:31,620 --> 00:19:33,619
Austin bands, but certainly have

645
00:19:33,620 --> 00:19:35,139
breakout potential.

646
00:19:35,140 --> 00:19:36,499
Aside from all of these, there's

647
00:19:36,500 --> 00:19:37,859
just been so many other artists.

648
00:19:37,860 --> 00:19:39,859
Like it's been a really fun year

649
00:19:39,860 --> 00:19:41,459
to be in our artist of the month

650
00:19:41,460 --> 00:19:43,139
Slack channel talk discussing it

651
00:19:43,140 --> 00:19:45,779
because it's just overwhelming

652
00:19:45,780 --> 00:19:47,859
with like how many awesome

653
00:19:47,860 --> 00:19:49,459
albums and everything are coming out

654
00:19:49,460 --> 00:19:50,579
month to month to month.

655
00:19:50,580 --> 00:19:52,659
And so I am hotly

656
00:19:52,660 --> 00:19:53,459
excited.

657
00:19:53,460 --> 00:19:55,139
And if you want to kind of get an

658
00:19:55,140 --> 00:19:56,979
early step into what Austin

659
00:19:56,980 --> 00:19:59,139
in 2026 could look like, free

660
00:19:59,140 --> 00:20:00,899
week is the first week of January,

661
00:20:00,900 --> 00:20:02,259
as we all know, and we will be

662
00:20:02,260 --> 00:20:04,179
having a free week show, the

663
00:20:04,180 --> 00:20:05,619
announcement to come later this

664
00:20:05,620 --> 00:20:07,379
week. But some of them might be some

665
00:20:07,380 --> 00:20:09,059
of the artists that you'll have

666
00:20:09,060 --> 00:20:10,579
heard about today.

667
00:20:10,580 --> 00:20:12,579
And and even with that show,

668
00:20:12,580 --> 00:20:14,899
it's a good it's a good mosaic,

669
00:20:14,900 --> 00:20:16,819
sonic mosaic of who's

670
00:20:16,820 --> 00:20:18,409
who and who you should love.

671
00:20:18,410 --> 00:20:19,289
All right, well when that

672
00:20:19,290 --> 00:20:20,489
announcement is made, we'll let you

673
00:20:20,490 --> 00:20:22,329
know right here on Austin Signal.

674
00:20:22,330 --> 00:20:23,369
We have been speaking with Taylor

675
00:20:23,370 --> 00:20:24,969
Wallace, your weekday morning drive

676
00:20:24,970 --> 00:20:26,729
time host for our sister station

677
00:20:26,730 --> 00:20:28,649
KUTX, breaking down a few

678
00:20:28,650 --> 00:20:30,249
of the artists of the month featured

679
00:20:30,250 --> 00:20:32,729
as the twenty twenty five KUTX

680
00:20:32,730 --> 00:20:33,689
artists of the month.

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00:20:33,690 --> 00:20:35,049
We're gonna have a link in our show

682
00:20:35,050 --> 00:20:37,209
notes at KUT dot org

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00:20:37,210 --> 00:20:38,329
slash signal.

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00:20:38,330 --> 00:20:39,529
Taylor, thank you for your time.

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00:20:39,530 --> 00:20:40,530
Always a pleasure.

686
00:20:57,580 --> 00:20:59,419
This is Austin Signal.

687
00:20:59,420 --> 00:21:01,339
Thank you for making us part

688
00:21:01,340 --> 00:21:03,179
of your Tuesday.

689
00:21:03,180 --> 00:21:04,939
Well, if you weren't paying

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00:21:04,940 --> 00:21:06,699
attention yesterday, we had lots of

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00:21:06,700 --> 00:21:08,699
movement on the political front.

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00:21:08,700 --> 00:21:10,619
It was the last day to file

693
00:21:10,620 --> 00:21:12,379
ahead of next year's midterms.

694
00:21:12,380 --> 00:21:14,219
Colin Alrid dropped out of the race

695
00:21:14,220 --> 00:21:16,139
for U.S. Senate, while Congresswoman

696
00:21:16,140 --> 00:21:17,979
Jasmine Crockett joined

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in. Locally, Democratic

698
00:21:19,820 --> 00:21:21,419
State Senator Sarah Eckhart

699
00:21:21,420 --> 00:21:23,179
announced that she is running for

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00:21:23,180 --> 00:21:24,699
Texas Comptroller.

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00:21:24,700 --> 00:21:26,699
The Austin area politician said

702
00:21:26,700 --> 00:21:28,539
in October that she was running for

703
00:21:28,540 --> 00:21:30,619
the newly drawn 10th Congressional

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00:21:30,620 --> 00:21:32,859
District after Republican rep

705
00:21:32,860 --> 00:21:34,539
Michael McCall announced that he was

706
00:21:34,540 --> 00:21:36,539
not going to seek re-election, but

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00:21:36,540 --> 00:21:38,139
things have since changed.

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00:21:38,140 --> 00:21:40,299
Eckhart said that as Comptroller,

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she will stand up for public school

710
00:21:41,740 --> 00:21:43,819
funding and fight fraud, waste,

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00:21:43,820 --> 00:21:45,819
and abuse in government spending.

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00:21:45,820 --> 00:21:47,899
You can read more about that over at

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00:21:47,900 --> 00:21:49,739
K U T.org.

714
00:21:49,740 --> 00:21:51,899
You can also find more about Waymo's

715
00:21:51,900 --> 00:21:53,819
voluntary software recalled

716
00:21:53,820 --> 00:21:56,219
there. And so much more from

717
00:21:56,220 --> 00:21:58,379
our KUT Newsroom.

718
00:21:58,380 --> 00:22:00,539
And that is it for today's show

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00:22:00,540 --> 00:22:02,299
here on Austin Signal.

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00:22:02,300 --> 00:22:04,379
Thank you to KUT's Olivia

721
00:22:04,380 --> 00:22:06,459
Aldridge, Texas Standard Shelly

722
00:22:06,460 --> 00:22:08,379
Brisbin, and K U T X's

723
00:22:08,380 --> 00:22:09,339
Taylor Wallace.

724
00:22:09,340 --> 00:22:11,339
We hit the trifecta on today's

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00:22:11,340 --> 00:22:13,499
show. We couldn't do it without

726
00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:14,699
all the help here.

727
00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:16,059
And I couldn't do it without

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00:22:16,060 --> 00:22:18,539
managing producer Kristen Cabrera,

729
00:22:18,540 --> 00:22:20,939
technical director Rayna Sevilla,

730
00:22:20,940 --> 00:22:22,859
and our theme music is by

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00:22:22,860 --> 00:22:24,599
Rene Chavez.

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00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,198
Don't forget about our show, Dad

733
00:22:26,199 --> 00:22:28,039
Jimmy Mass, and I'm your host,

734
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,479
Jerry Quijano.

735
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,158
Thank you for making Austin Signal

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00:22:31,159 --> 00:22:32,359
part of your day.

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We really appreciate spending this

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00:22:34,120 --> 00:22:35,479
time with you. We'll be back

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tomorrow at one o'clock, and

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we'll talk to you then.

