1 00:00:10,250 --> 00:00:11,849 A college student flying to Austin 2 00:00:11,850 --> 00:00:13,369 was detained and deported by 3 00:00:13,370 --> 00:00:14,649 immigration authorities. 4 00:00:14,650 --> 00:00:15,849 She was trying to surprise her 5 00:00:15,850 --> 00:00:17,049 family for the Thanksgiving 6 00:00:17,050 --> 00:00:18,729 holiday. Now she's having to finish 7 00:00:18,730 --> 00:00:20,008 her semester of college in a 8 00:00:20,009 --> 00:00:20,889 different country. 9 00:00:20,890 --> 00:00:20,901 Her lawyer says her deportation went against a federal court order. We're 10 00:00:20,902 --> 00:00:20,914 gonna have more about the reason for her deportation and what the next 11 00:00:20,915 --> 00:00:22,112 steps in her story are. That's coming up on today's show. 12 00:00:31,860 --> 00:00:33,859 The Austin Signal is a production of 13 00:00:33,860 --> 00:00:36,018 KUT News, hosted by Jerry 14 00:00:36,019 --> 00:00:36,899 Quijano. 15 00:00:36,900 --> 00:00:38,499 And what do you imagine when you 16 00:00:38,500 --> 00:00:40,338 hear dragon boat racing? 17 00:00:40,339 --> 00:00:42,259 Fire spewing out across Ladybird 18 00:00:42,260 --> 00:00:44,419 Lake, boats speeding fast across 19 00:00:44,420 --> 00:00:46,099 and even out of the water. 20 00:00:46,100 --> 00:00:48,018 Come find out what it's really all 21 00:00:48,019 --> 00:00:49,859 about. Plus, it's the time of 22 00:00:49,860 --> 00:00:51,699 season for caroling and lighting up 23 00:00:51,700 --> 00:00:52,979 big old trees. 24 00:00:52,980 --> 00:00:54,339 Find out what's happening this 25 00:00:54,340 --> 00:00:56,499 weekend in downtown Austin. 26 00:00:56,500 --> 00:00:58,979 That's up next on Austin Signal. 27 00:01:08,100 --> 00:01:09,619 Howdy out there, thank you for 28 00:01:09,620 --> 00:01:11,459 listening. This is Austin Signal. 29 00:01:11,460 --> 00:01:13,379 It's Wednesday, December third. 30 00:01:13,380 --> 00:01:14,978 We are halfway through the week. 31 00:01:14,979 --> 00:01:16,819 I'm your host, Jerry Kehonnell. 32 00:01:16,820 --> 00:01:18,419 Thanks for spending part of your day 33 00:01:18,420 --> 00:01:19,779 here with us. 34 00:01:19,780 --> 00:01:21,379 Just before the Thanksgiving 35 00:01:21,380 --> 00:01:22,978 holiday, a Boston area college 36 00:01:22,979 --> 00:01:24,579 student boarded a plane headed for 37 00:01:24,580 --> 00:01:26,499 Austin. She had plans to surprise 38 00:01:26,500 --> 00:01:28,179 her family for the holiday. 39 00:01:28,180 --> 00:01:29,859 Instead, she was taken into federal 40 00:01:29,860 --> 00:01:32,339 custody and deported to Honduras. 41 00:01:32,340 --> 00:01:34,099 Her lawyer says that deportation 42 00:01:34,100 --> 00:01:35,939 went against a federal court 43 00:01:35,940 --> 00:01:37,859 order. For more about this story, we 44 00:01:37,860 --> 00:01:39,619 are speaking with KUT's government 45 00:01:39,620 --> 00:01:40,978 accountability reporter Andrew 46 00:01:40,979 --> 00:01:42,329 Weber. Good afternoon, Andrew. 47 00:01:42,330 --> 00:01:43,539 Good afternoon, Jerry. 48 00:01:43,540 --> 00:01:45,059 So tell us a little bit about the 49 00:01:45,060 --> 00:01:46,979 student, who is Annie Lopez 50 00:01:46,980 --> 00:01:47,949 Bayosa? 51 00:01:47,950 --> 00:01:49,469 She's a nineteen-year-old business 52 00:01:49,470 --> 00:01:51,629 student at Babson College 53 00:01:51,630 --> 00:01:53,629 up in the Boston area. 54 00:01:53,630 --> 00:01:54,829 And like you said, on November 55 00:01:54,830 --> 00:01:56,109 twentieth, she tried to board a 56 00:01:56,110 --> 00:01:57,389 flight. She wanted to surprise her 57 00:01:57,390 --> 00:01:59,389 folks down here for Thanksgiving, 58 00:01:59,390 --> 00:02:01,229 and she was told to just go back to 59 00:02:01,230 --> 00:02:02,269 the the the gate. 60 00:02:02,270 --> 00:02:03,949 Okay. She wasn't really told why, so 61 00:02:03,950 --> 00:02:05,309 she did that. She went back to the 62 00:02:05,310 --> 00:02:06,509 gate. They said something was wrong 63 00:02:06,510 --> 00:02:08,429 with her ticket, and she was 64 00:02:08,430 --> 00:02:10,349 met by her attorney says 65 00:02:10,350 --> 00:02:12,269 immigration officials right 66 00:02:12,270 --> 00:02:13,949 there at the gate, and they detained 67 00:02:13,950 --> 00:02:14,449 her. 68 00:02:14,450 --> 00:02:15,729 Yeah, w and what was the reason that 69 00:02:15,730 --> 00:02:17,569 those officials gave her for the 70 00:02:17,570 --> 00:02:18,979 detainment in the first place? 71 00:02:18,980 --> 00:02:20,819 Yeah, the ICE immigration customs 72 00:02:20,820 --> 00:02:22,419 enforcement folks told me she had 73 00:02:22,420 --> 00:02:24,419 violated a final order 74 00:02:24,420 --> 00:02:26,339 to to leave the country, a final 75 00:02:26,340 --> 00:02:28,019 deportation order. 76 00:02:28,020 --> 00:02:29,779 She came with her family to the US 77 00:02:29,780 --> 00:02:31,699 when she was a kid, and she 78 00:02:31,700 --> 00:02:33,539 thought that she had legal 79 00:02:33,540 --> 00:02:35,299 status because they were seeking 80 00:02:35,300 --> 00:02:37,219 asylum. ICE told me she 81 00:02:37,220 --> 00:02:39,139 was detained lawfully 82 00:02:39,140 --> 00:02:40,819 for violating that that twenty 83 00:02:40,820 --> 00:02:42,739 fifteen order, and her 84 00:02:42,740 --> 00:02:44,739 attorney told me that she was 85 00:02:44,740 --> 00:02:46,659 taken into from the 86 00:02:46,660 --> 00:02:48,419 from the gate, out of the airport, 87 00:02:48,420 --> 00:02:49,459 into a van. 88 00:02:49,460 --> 00:02:50,979 He said that the the agents were 89 00:02:50,980 --> 00:02:53,059 masked, and she was taken 90 00:02:53,060 --> 00:02:55,859 to a suburban ice facility, 91 00:02:55,860 --> 00:02:57,619 suburban Boston ICE facility. 92 00:02:57,620 --> 00:02:58,739 Then from there she was taken to 93 00:02:58,740 --> 00:03:01,219 Texas and she was deported 94 00:03:01,220 --> 00:03:03,219 back to Honduras within 95 00:03:03,220 --> 00:03:04,979 two days. And you try to board that 96 00:03:04,980 --> 00:03:05,359 flight. 97 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:06,239 You've been speaking with her 98 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,599 attorney, Todd Pomerlo. 99 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:08,559 What else has he told you about the 100 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:09,469 situation? 101 00:03:09,470 --> 00:03:10,589 Well, like you said at the top, you 102 00:03:10,590 --> 00:03:12,269 said that this was un it was 103 00:03:12,270 --> 00:03:13,389 completely unlawful. 104 00:03:13,390 --> 00:03:15,709 That before she was, 105 00:03:15,710 --> 00:03:17,629 you know, immigration status 106 00:03:17,630 --> 00:03:19,549 rather legal status aside, 107 00:03:19,550 --> 00:03:21,389 he said that a federal judge 108 00:03:21,390 --> 00:03:23,309 said, You can't deport this 109 00:03:23,310 --> 00:03:24,989 person until they have a chance to 110 00:03:24,990 --> 00:03:27,309 go before an immigration judge. 111 00:03:27,310 --> 00:03:29,149 And that is clearly 112 00:03:29,150 --> 00:03:30,739 not what happened. 113 00:03:30,740 --> 00:03:31,858 At the end of the day, this is a 114 00:03:31,859 --> 00:03:33,619 college student who came here at 115 00:03:33,620 --> 00:03:35,619 seven years old to seek asylum 116 00:03:35,620 --> 00:03:36,819 with her family. She's not 117 00:03:36,820 --> 00:03:38,979 responsible under the law 118 00:03:38,980 --> 00:03:40,899 for any decisions her parents 119 00:03:40,900 --> 00:03:42,339 made about her. She didn't enter 120 00:03:42,340 --> 00:03:43,939 illegally, like the government is 121 00:03:43,940 --> 00:03:45,939 claiming. Asylum is a legal 122 00:03:45,940 --> 00:03:47,139 process. 123 00:03:47,140 --> 00:03:48,739 Regardless of how much the 124 00:03:48,740 --> 00:03:50,739 administration may not like asylum, 125 00:03:50,740 --> 00:03:52,659 it's protected by federal law and 126 00:03:52,660 --> 00:03:53,779 they were following the law. 127 00:03:55,340 --> 00:03:57,579 So what do we know about Annie's 128 00:03:57,580 --> 00:03:58,439 location right now? 129 00:03:58,440 --> 00:03:59,879 Yeah, yeah. Pomerolo told me that 130 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:01,319 she is in Aldados with her 131 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,239 grandparents right now. 132 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:04,839 But she, you know, doesn't know when 133 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,599 she's gonna be able to come back or 134 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,119 even finish the semester at at 135 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:09,120 Babson. 136 00:04:09,890 --> 00:04:10,928 What do we know about the 137 00:04:10,929 --> 00:04:12,689 administration's response to the 138 00:04:12,690 --> 00:04:14,368 situation or to the attorney 139 00:04:14,369 --> 00:04:15,328 Pomerlo? 140 00:04:15,329 --> 00:04:16,208 Wha what happens next? 141 00:04:16,209 --> 00:04:17,179 What have they said? 142 00:04:17,180 --> 00:04:19,179 Yeah, Pablo said that ICE 143 00:04:19,180 --> 00:04:21,099 hasn't really spoken 144 00:04:21,100 --> 00:04:23,179 to him at all. 145 00:04:23,180 --> 00:04:25,179 But they did they did respond 146 00:04:25,180 --> 00:04:27,099 to a request for comment for 147 00:04:27,100 --> 00:04:29,019 us from us, excuse me, and 148 00:04:29,020 --> 00:04:30,939 they said that she went through 149 00:04:30,940 --> 00:04:33,019 the full due process, which is 150 00:04:33,020 --> 00:04:34,459 important because of that federal 151 00:04:34,460 --> 00:04:36,219 court order. 152 00:04:36,220 --> 00:04:38,379 And you know, they haven't 153 00:04:38,380 --> 00:04:40,299 really responded to the feds, that 154 00:04:40,300 --> 00:04:41,659 is, haven't really responded to that 155 00:04:41,660 --> 00:04:42,399 court order. 156 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:42,819 Okay. 157 00:04:42,820 --> 00:04:44,739 There was a request for, you 158 00:04:44,740 --> 00:04:46,979 know, response by today. 159 00:04:46,980 --> 00:04:49,059 I haven't seen anything on that 160 00:04:49,060 --> 00:04:50,339 yet. 161 00:04:50,340 --> 00:04:52,659 But you know, largely Todd Pomerolo, 162 00:04:52,660 --> 00:04:54,419 the attorney, said that they want to 163 00:04:54,420 --> 00:04:56,099 continue fighting this even if, you 164 00:04:56,100 --> 00:04:57,939 know, the feds aren't gonna respond 165 00:04:57,940 --> 00:04:59,969 to to this case. 166 00:04:59,970 --> 00:05:01,329 They ignored my phone calls. 167 00:05:01,330 --> 00:05:02,609 They haven't even acknowledged the 168 00:05:02,610 --> 00:05:04,369 email that said we were her lawyer. 169 00:05:04,370 --> 00:05:05,489 I mean I mean I guess they don't 170 00:05:05,490 --> 00:05:07,329 have time to read emails these days, 171 00:05:07,330 --> 00:05:09,169 but again we're taking her 172 00:05:09,170 --> 00:05:10,929 to court and we're gonna seek 173 00:05:10,930 --> 00:05:12,449 justice for any one way or another. 174 00:05:12,450 --> 00:05:13,809 We're not I promised her we're not 175 00:05:13,810 --> 00:05:14,810 stopping till she comes back. 176 00:05:15,930 --> 00:05:17,129 And has he had any further 177 00:05:17,130 --> 00:05:18,489 communication with her since as 178 00:05:18,490 --> 00:05:20,309 you've been reporting the story out? 179 00:05:20,310 --> 00:05:22,228 Not since I talked to him yesterday. 180 00:05:22,229 --> 00:05:23,979 I haven't heard anything since 181 00:05:23,980 --> 00:05:25,339 Okay, we I've been speaking with 182 00:05:25,340 --> 00:05:27,099 KUT's government accountability 183 00:05:27,100 --> 00:05:28,939 reporter, Andrew Weber. 184 00:05:28,940 --> 00:05:30,139 You can find more about this 185 00:05:30,140 --> 00:05:32,379 reporting in today's podcast 186 00:05:32,380 --> 00:05:34,539 show notes. 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Joining us now is Maile 212 00:06:27,310 --> 00:06:29,149 Carballo from our sister station 213 00:06:29,150 --> 00:06:30,829 K U T X. Howdy, Maile, it's been a 214 00:06:30,830 --> 00:06:31,889 while since we chatted with you. 215 00:06:31,890 --> 00:06:33,169 Hey Jerry, I'm doing great. 216 00:06:33,170 --> 00:06:33,999 How are you doing? 217 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:35,839 I'm doing fantastic and 218 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:37,199 you know, we are getting into the 219 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,559 spirits. There's been a lot of 220 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,639 discussion on NPR as of late about 221 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:41,439 Christmas music. 222 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:42,879 You know, some so many people have 223 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:45,038 so many feelings about Christmas 224 00:06:45,039 --> 00:06:46,879 music and we're gonna 225 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:48,319 add some more to that discussion, 226 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:50,319 right? Because there's A in a big 227 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:51,679 event happening this Saturday in 228 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:52,798 downtown Austin. 229 00:06:52,799 --> 00:06:54,399 A big tree is getting lit. 230 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:55,219 What's happening? 231 00:06:55,220 --> 00:06:56,099 Absolutely. 232 00:06:56,100 --> 00:06:57,939 It's the annual K U T K 233 00:06:57,940 --> 00:07:00,019 U T X and Downtown Austin 234 00:07:00,020 --> 00:07:01,779 Alliance holiday sing along. 235 00:07:01,780 --> 00:07:03,779 It's been going on for a long time 236 00:07:03,780 --> 00:07:05,619 now and it's this Saturday 237 00:07:05,620 --> 00:07:07,459 the sixth from five to eight PM. 238 00:07:07,460 --> 00:07:08,799 It's gonna be a great time. 239 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:09,999 Yeah, like you said, it's been going 240 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:10,799 on for a long time. 241 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:12,559 You know, our predecessor here at 242 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,319 the station, John Ailey, started 243 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,319 this tradition a long time ago. 244 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,159 And and there's so much community 245 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,919 investment in this event. 246 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,679 I feel like every time I go, the 247 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:22,680 people are 248 00:07:23,980 --> 00:07:24,939 So excited. 249 00:07:24,940 --> 00:07:26,460 Jones and for the carols. 250 00:07:27,980 --> 00:07:29,499 Yeah, and the great thing about that 251 00:07:29,500 --> 00:07:31,259 too, mentioning John Ailey, he 252 00:07:31,260 --> 00:07:33,259 started the tradition of singing, 253 00:07:33,260 --> 00:07:35,259 you know, cr carols of 254 00:07:35,260 --> 00:07:37,819 all holidays, Christmas Kwanzaa, 255 00:07:37,820 --> 00:07:38,859 all sorts. 256 00:07:38,860 --> 00:07:41,179 And the KUT and KUTX 257 00:07:41,180 --> 00:07:43,259 peoples, you I'm I'm sure 258 00:07:43,260 --> 00:07:44,939 included have sung up there before. 259 00:07:44,940 --> 00:07:45,229 Well you 260 00:07:45,230 --> 00:07:46,589 Well you know, I actually have not 261 00:07:46,590 --> 00:07:48,509 sung before up on the stage. 262 00:07:48,510 --> 00:07:50,029 I have a little bit of stage fry, 263 00:07:50,030 --> 00:07:51,789 but this year I've been asked to be 264 00:07:51,790 --> 00:07:53,069 part of the Carolers. 265 00:07:53,070 --> 00:07:54,989 So I you know, I'm w apparently 266 00:07:54,990 --> 00:07:56,669 we have a practice tomorrow for this 267 00:07:56,670 --> 00:07:57,549 caroling. 268 00:07:57,550 --> 00:07:59,629 So I will be up there, but 269 00:07:59,630 --> 00:08:01,389 we have about an hour of Caroling 270 00:08:01,390 --> 00:08:03,468 from K U T and K U T X staff. 271 00:08:03,469 --> 00:08:05,149 But it wouldn't be an Austin event 272 00:08:05,150 --> 00:08:06,349 if we didn't have even more live 273 00:08:06,350 --> 00:08:07,709 music. There's some additional music 274 00:08:07,710 --> 00:08:08,679 happening too, right? 275 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:09,559 That is correct. 276 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,559 So at if you arrive at five PM, 277 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,159 you can walk down. There's vendors, 278 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:14,599 there's music happening. 279 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,119 Amber Blue Music, which is a 280 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,559 children's entertainer, will be 281 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,319 there. Entertaining the kiddos. 282 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,079 So feel free to bring them out. 283 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,319 It is free for them as well. 284 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,159 And yeah, the K U T and K U T 285 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,239 Xers will begin a holiday sing along 286 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,559 starting at six and then we'll sing 287 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,399 into the tree lighting at 288 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:32,408 seven PM. 289 00:08:32,409 --> 00:08:33,609 Yeah, it's always a great time. 290 00:08:33,610 --> 00:08:34,808 It's a great event for your 291 00:08:34,809 --> 00:08:36,249 children, and it looks like it's 292 00:08:36,250 --> 00:08:37,769 shaping up to be a really good one 293 00:08:37,770 --> 00:08:39,769 weather wise as well this Saturday. 294 00:08:39,770 --> 00:08:40,568 Nice and chilly. 295 00:08:40,569 --> 00:08:42,088 I was saying yesterday on on the 296 00:08:42,089 --> 00:08:43,849 show that sometimes these events are 297 00:08:43,850 --> 00:08:45,289 kind of like I'm wearing like a t 298 00:08:45,290 --> 00:08:46,729 shirt and shorts to these events, 299 00:08:46,730 --> 00:08:48,088 but this year it'll actually be 300 00:08:48,089 --> 00:08:49,529 chilly. Again, that's happening from 301 00:08:49,530 --> 00:08:51,289 five until eight o'clock this 302 00:08:51,290 --> 00:08:52,169 Saturday night. 303 00:08:52,170 --> 00:08:54,249 The K U T and K U T X holiday 304 00:08:54,250 --> 00:08:56,088 sing along and stroll downtown. 305 00:08:56,089 --> 00:08:57,849 Okay, Maile, let's switch planes a 306 00:08:57,850 --> 00:08:58,729 little bit. 307 00:08:58,730 --> 00:09:00,809 As we're beginning to wrap up twenty 308 00:09:00,810 --> 00:09:02,169 twenty five, it's only the third of 309 00:09:02,170 --> 00:09:03,369 December, but we still have some 310 00:09:03,370 --> 00:09:04,409 time to go. 311 00:09:04,410 --> 00:09:06,409 It seems like AI is creeping into 312 00:09:06,410 --> 00:09:07,529 more and more industries. 313 00:09:07,530 --> 00:09:09,049 We're hearing about how more and 314 00:09:09,050 --> 00:09:10,568 more companies and organizations are 315 00:09:10,569 --> 00:09:12,409 partnering with AI or or bringing 316 00:09:12,410 --> 00:09:13,688 AI into the mix. 317 00:09:13,689 --> 00:09:15,688 Music is not exempted from that 318 00:09:15,689 --> 00:09:17,448 discussion. And one of the bigger 319 00:09:17,449 --> 00:09:18,729 music companies in the world is 320 00:09:18,730 --> 00:09:20,809 partnering with an AI company, but 321 00:09:20,810 --> 00:09:21,688 I got your notes. 322 00:09:21,689 --> 00:09:23,049 You're saying this is a company that 323 00:09:23,050 --> 00:09:24,809 that was s they were suing and now 324 00:09:24,810 --> 00:09:25,769 they're bringing on board. 325 00:09:25,770 --> 00:09:26,749 What's the story here? 326 00:09:26,750 --> 00:09:28,989 Yeah, so we're talking about Warner 327 00:09:28,990 --> 00:09:29,949 Music Group. 328 00:09:29,950 --> 00:09:32,029 They have been in a massive 329 00:09:32,030 --> 00:09:34,029 copyright lawsuit with the AI 330 00:09:34,030 --> 00:09:35,229 program Suno. 331 00:09:35,230 --> 00:09:37,069 Suno is known for kind of 332 00:09:37,070 --> 00:09:39,949 music oriented AI creation. 333 00:09:39,950 --> 00:09:41,869 And Warner has basically been 334 00:09:41,870 --> 00:09:43,709 saying, you know, Suno, you're 335 00:09:43,710 --> 00:09:46,189 using our music, all of our artists 336 00:09:46,190 --> 00:09:48,829 unappropriately, inappropriately, 337 00:09:48,830 --> 00:09:50,829 and we want you to pay us basically. 338 00:09:50,830 --> 00:09:52,989 We we want our musicians to be paid. 339 00:09:52,990 --> 00:09:54,829 So they just settled 340 00:09:54,830 --> 00:09:57,229 this massive copyright lawsuit 341 00:09:57,230 --> 00:09:59,309 and pitchfork Pitchfork 342 00:09:59,310 --> 00:10:01,469 reported this last week that they're 343 00:10:01,470 --> 00:10:03,389 partnering with them and they're 344 00:10:03,390 --> 00:10:05,629 actually gonna launch a brand new 345 00:10:05,630 --> 00:10:07,949 legal licensed AI 346 00:10:07,950 --> 00:10:09,869 model in association with Warner 347 00:10:09,870 --> 00:10:11,809 starting in twenty twenty six. 348 00:10:11,810 --> 00:10:12,849 One question that made me think 349 00:10:12,850 --> 00:10:14,529 about was like the the artists or or 350 00:10:14,530 --> 00:10:16,289 associated signed to Warner. 351 00:10:16,290 --> 00:10:17,649 Do they have do they have to 352 00:10:17,650 --> 00:10:18,448 participate in this? 353 00:10:18,449 --> 00:10:19,809 How does this work with the artists 354 00:10:19,810 --> 00:10:20,769 that work under them? 355 00:10:20,770 --> 00:10:22,449 They do not. So what this means for 356 00:10:22,450 --> 00:10:24,369 the musicians that we listen to, so 357 00:10:24,370 --> 00:10:25,729 Warner represents, you know, 358 00:10:25,730 --> 00:10:27,649 Coldplay, Ed Sheeran, Madonna, 359 00:10:27,650 --> 00:10:28,328 all of the big 360 00:10:28,329 --> 00:10:29,529 Some pretty big names. 361 00:10:29,530 --> 00:10:31,449 Pretty big names, they will now have 362 00:10:31,450 --> 00:10:33,369 the option to opt in or out 363 00:10:33,370 --> 00:10:35,289 of using AI with their 364 00:10:35,290 --> 00:10:36,409 music creation. 365 00:10:36,410 --> 00:10:38,249 So it's kind of still a little 366 00:10:38,250 --> 00:10:40,009 bit vague, a little bit gray and 367 00:10:40,010 --> 00:10:41,849 weird, especially as we kind 368 00:10:41,850 --> 00:10:44,009 of grow into a season 369 00:10:44,010 --> 00:10:45,849 of and maybe it a new 370 00:10:45,850 --> 00:10:47,849 lifetime of AI generated 371 00:10:47,850 --> 00:10:49,449 music. I don't know. 372 00:10:49,450 --> 00:10:51,209 People are not happy about it. 373 00:10:51,210 --> 00:10:52,729 Yeah. Me included. 374 00:10:52,730 --> 00:10:53,929 What are some of the concerns that 375 00:10:53,930 --> 00:10:55,609 we're hearing from folks about about 376 00:10:55,610 --> 00:10:56,889 this potential or about this 377 00:10:56,890 --> 00:10:58,439 partnership that is going to happen? 378 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,279 Yeah, for sure. I mean it blurs the 379 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,599 lines of, you know, originality, 380 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,679 what's real, what's not, what 381 00:11:04,680 --> 00:11:06,759 can Suno claim as, 382 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:08,679 you know, original music in 383 00:11:08,680 --> 00:11:10,679 terms of, you know, let's say Ed 384 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:12,599 Sheeran wants to opt in and use 385 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:13,639 it for his music. 386 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:15,639 It's it's still kind of the 387 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:17,800 the lines are not quite there yet. 388 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,999 But it's definitely gonna 389 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:22,519 be a necessity for a lot of the 390 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:23,719 bigger groups coming up. 391 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:25,959 They're gonna opt in and actually 392 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,879 alongside Warner, other 393 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,879 big groups have been associated 394 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,279 with Clay, which is another AI. 395 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:33,280 Okay. 396 00:11:33,590 --> 00:11:35,589 Sort of music integration 397 00:11:35,590 --> 00:11:37,829 system and it's just kind of freaky. 398 00:11:37,830 --> 00:11:39,289 It's a lot of freaky stuff. 399 00:11:39,290 --> 00:11:40,889 Lot of freaky stuff and I'm sure I I 400 00:11:40,890 --> 00:11:42,969 can see maybe it has some 401 00:11:42,970 --> 00:11:44,809 possibilities for a smaller name as 402 00:11:44,810 --> 00:11:46,809 you're trying to expand and 403 00:11:46,810 --> 00:11:48,889 you know, kind of a a slippery slope 404 00:11:48,890 --> 00:11:50,089 there. We have been speaking with 405 00:11:50,090 --> 00:11:52,089 Maile Carbio from our sister 406 00:11:52,090 --> 00:11:53,929 station K U T X with 407 00:11:53,930 --> 00:11:54,809 the great update. 408 00:11:54,810 --> 00:11:56,169 As always. Maile, thank you. 409 00:11:56,170 --> 00:11:57,170 Thank you, Jerry. 410 00:12:01,550 --> 00:12:02,589 This is Austin Signal. 411 00:12:02,590 --> 00:12:04,269 Thanks for being with us today. 412 00:12:04,270 --> 00:12:06,109 For the most part, everybody's got a 413 00:12:06,110 --> 00:12:08,269 thing, my least thing is in music. 414 00:12:08,270 --> 00:12:09,709 Something that they, you know, just 415 00:12:09,710 --> 00:12:11,629 do for themselves, not a job, 416 00:12:11,630 --> 00:12:13,229 not a responsibility. 417 00:12:13,230 --> 00:12:14,909 It's just something that brings them 418 00:12:14,910 --> 00:12:17,229 joy or feeds their soul. 419 00:12:17,230 --> 00:12:19,149 Mike Lee is the host of the This 420 00:12:19,150 --> 00:12:20,669 Is My Thing podcast. 421 00:12:20,670 --> 00:12:22,589 He says in their latest episode when 422 00:12:22,590 --> 00:12:24,589 we hear about dragon boat racing, 423 00:12:24,590 --> 00:12:26,429 you know, this is really a 424 00:12:26,430 --> 00:12:27,430 thing. 425 00:12:29,330 --> 00:12:31,409 My name is Beth Rowan 426 00:12:31,410 --> 00:12:34,049 and I'm a member of Austin's 427 00:12:34,050 --> 00:12:35,729 first and only breast cancer 428 00:12:35,730 --> 00:12:37,729 survivor dragon boat team. 429 00:12:37,730 --> 00:12:39,250 It's called Paddles with a Purpose. 430 00:12:41,560 --> 00:12:42,359 Reach. 431 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:43,360 Reach you guys. 432 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,599 It's the traditional Asian 433 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,519 longboat, the dragon 434 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,279 boat. It's been around for thousands 435 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,279 of years, but it 436 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,279 has been recently within 437 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,199 the last 30 years discovered to 438 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,039 be very helpful 439 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:01,119 for breast cancer survivors 440 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:02,959 because it's moves the 441 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,479 lymph node system. 442 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,399 So when we're paddling, we get a 443 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,559 good workout of upper body 444 00:13:08,560 --> 00:13:10,479 movement. So it's extremely helpful 445 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:11,840 for breast cancer survivors. 446 00:13:14,969 --> 00:13:16,649 Were you seeking out some form of 447 00:13:16,650 --> 00:13:18,488 exercise that would help you in your 448 00:13:18,489 --> 00:13:20,029 continuing recovery? 449 00:13:20,030 --> 00:13:21,869 Well yes, I saw the flyer in the 450 00:13:21,870 --> 00:13:23,549 gym. I was going to the gym 451 00:13:23,550 --> 00:13:25,949 regularly and saw the flyer 452 00:13:25,950 --> 00:13:28,189 and I have done some canoeing 453 00:13:28,190 --> 00:13:29,629 before, which I love. 454 00:13:29,630 --> 00:13:31,469 I love being on the water. 455 00:13:31,470 --> 00:13:33,549 It's extremely 456 00:13:33,550 --> 00:13:35,389 good for my soul to be on 457 00:13:35,390 --> 00:13:36,269 the water. 458 00:13:36,270 --> 00:13:39,309 So paddling with 459 00:13:39,310 --> 00:13:41,709 twenty other women in the boat 460 00:13:41,710 --> 00:13:43,549 with me for practice and then 461 00:13:43,550 --> 00:13:45,629 doing racing is 462 00:13:45,630 --> 00:13:47,629 so fulfilling 463 00:13:47,630 --> 00:13:49,869 and just so wonderful. 464 00:13:49,870 --> 00:13:51,789 It's a wonderful group of supportive 465 00:13:51,790 --> 00:13:53,869 women and we encourage 466 00:13:53,870 --> 00:13:54,870 each other to stay healthy. 467 00:13:57,740 --> 00:13:59,579 So you already had some experience 468 00:13:59,580 --> 00:14:01,499 with boating and I I feel 469 00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:03,019 like I should mention the elephant 470 00:14:03,020 --> 00:14:04,059 in the room, which is that your last 471 00:14:04,060 --> 00:14:05,060 name is Rowan. 472 00:14:07,420 --> 00:14:08,619 Which is a big part of the activity 473 00:14:08,620 --> 00:14:10,139 that you're I know I'm not the first 474 00:14:10,140 --> 00:14:11,519 person to mention this. 475 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:12,639 You might be, actually. 476 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:16,869 That's surprising to me. 477 00:14:16,870 --> 00:14:19,089 Yes, yes, that's really funny. 478 00:14:19,090 --> 00:14:20,849 But rowing is something that is not 479 00:14:20,850 --> 00:14:22,369 only good for you, but you something 480 00:14:22,370 --> 00:14:23,459 you already enjoyed. 481 00:14:23,460 --> 00:14:24,419 Yes, indeed. 482 00:14:24,420 --> 00:14:26,259 Indeed. I have done a little bit 483 00:14:26,260 --> 00:14:28,099 of rowing in a skull 484 00:14:28,100 --> 00:14:29,779 on Ladybird Lake, but this is 485 00:14:29,780 --> 00:14:31,779 paddling because we only have one 486 00:14:31,780 --> 00:14:34,659 paddle and we use it 487 00:14:34,660 --> 00:14:36,499 on the side and we all 488 00:14:36,500 --> 00:14:37,699 paddle in sync. 489 00:14:37,700 --> 00:14:39,779 So the key part about 490 00:14:39,780 --> 00:14:41,939 being fast in the boat boat 491 00:14:41,940 --> 00:14:43,859 is that we all are in 492 00:14:43,860 --> 00:14:45,699 sync absolutely as much 493 00:14:45,700 --> 00:14:47,219 as possible and that makes us go 494 00:14:47,220 --> 00:14:48,409 really fast. 495 00:14:48,410 --> 00:14:50,809 Stroke is feeling a bit rank heavy. 496 00:14:50,810 --> 00:14:52,328 So again. 497 00:14:52,329 --> 00:14:54,169 It feels so great to be 498 00:14:54,170 --> 00:14:56,809 on the water exercising 499 00:14:56,810 --> 00:14:58,649 and being with a this group that 500 00:14:58,650 --> 00:15:00,649 has grown to be some of my closest 501 00:15:00,650 --> 00:15:02,169 friends. 502 00:15:02,170 --> 00:15:05,369 Our first race, I believe, was 2022, 503 00:15:05,370 --> 00:15:07,688 and we have competed in the Austin 504 00:15:07,689 --> 00:15:09,609 Dragon Boat Festival, 505 00:15:09,610 --> 00:15:12,249 Oklahoma City, Dallas, 506 00:15:12,250 --> 00:15:14,089 Houston, Kansas 507 00:15:14,090 --> 00:15:15,929 City, Miami, 508 00:15:15,930 --> 00:15:18,169 and we were in 509 00:15:18,170 --> 00:15:20,089 a race in Vancouver 510 00:15:20,090 --> 00:15:22,009 in June, which 511 00:15:22,010 --> 00:15:23,688 was our biggest race. 512 00:15:23,689 --> 00:15:25,769 There were 33 breast cancer 513 00:15:25,770 --> 00:15:27,769 survivor teams, and we got third 514 00:15:27,770 --> 00:15:29,049 place overall. 515 00:15:29,050 --> 00:15:30,429 So exciting. 516 00:15:30,430 --> 00:15:32,029 What did it feel like to see that 517 00:15:32,030 --> 00:15:34,029 many other people 518 00:15:34,030 --> 00:15:35,609 who have gone through this? 519 00:15:35,610 --> 00:15:36,489 It's powerful. 520 00:15:36,490 --> 00:15:38,489 But another thing that's even more 521 00:15:38,490 --> 00:15:40,889 powerful is typically 522 00:15:40,890 --> 00:15:42,489 when there's breast cancer teams in 523 00:15:42,490 --> 00:15:44,409 a dragon boat race, we will take 524 00:15:44,410 --> 00:15:46,329 a break to 525 00:15:46,330 --> 00:15:48,569 honor and remember 526 00:15:48,570 --> 00:15:50,729 the breast cancer 527 00:15:50,730 --> 00:15:52,809 folks that have passed on. 528 00:15:52,810 --> 00:15:55,449 And so in Vancouver 529 00:15:55,450 --> 00:15:57,609 we had two heats 530 00:15:57,610 --> 00:15:59,529 of breast cancer survivor 531 00:15:59,530 --> 00:16:01,929 boats lined up together, raft 532 00:16:01,930 --> 00:16:03,769 up, so connect, hold 533 00:16:03,770 --> 00:16:06,009 on to each other, and we 534 00:16:06,010 --> 00:16:08,329 have pink carnations. 535 00:16:08,330 --> 00:16:10,249 Somebody usually sp speaks some 536 00:16:10,250 --> 00:16:11,929 words or some music and then we 537 00:16:11,930 --> 00:16:13,689 throw the pink carnations into the 538 00:16:13,690 --> 00:16:15,369 water, remembering those that have 539 00:16:15,370 --> 00:16:16,370 passed on. 540 00:16:17,610 --> 00:16:19,529 It is very powerful. 541 00:16:19,530 --> 00:16:20,530 It really is. 542 00:16:21,860 --> 00:16:23,779 I would think that there's an 543 00:16:23,780 --> 00:16:25,619 element that's a little bittersweet 544 00:16:25,620 --> 00:16:27,539 to see that many people who 545 00:16:27,540 --> 00:16:29,059 have had to go through this. 546 00:16:29,060 --> 00:16:30,739 It is. But to also see that many 547 00:16:30,740 --> 00:16:32,578 people who survived and are 548 00:16:32,579 --> 00:16:33,459 thriving now. 549 00:16:33,460 --> 00:16:34,339 Yes, it is. 550 00:16:34,340 --> 00:16:36,259 I mean it is t bittersweet is 551 00:16:36,260 --> 00:16:38,259 the exact right word because 552 00:16:38,260 --> 00:16:40,099 I mean, you know, I'm 553 00:16:40,100 --> 00:16:42,259 talking about how upbeat it is, 554 00:16:42,260 --> 00:16:44,099 but we do remember 555 00:16:44,100 --> 00:16:45,938 those and we have had people 556 00:16:45,939 --> 00:16:48,259 on our team that have passed on. 557 00:16:48,260 --> 00:16:50,259 But we do 558 00:16:50,260 --> 00:16:52,339 feel like it is 559 00:16:52,340 --> 00:16:54,339 one of the best things we can do to 560 00:16:54,340 --> 00:16:56,339 stay connected and stay 561 00:16:56,340 --> 00:16:58,179 strong and to 562 00:16:58,180 --> 00:16:59,180 stay together. 563 00:17:00,310 --> 00:17:01,310 Oh 564 00:17:02,290 --> 00:17:03,889 When you started doing this six 565 00:17:03,890 --> 00:17:05,809 years or so ago, did you think it 566 00:17:05,810 --> 00:17:06,848 would be this big a part of your 567 00:17:06,849 --> 00:17:07,909 life? 568 00:17:07,910 --> 00:17:09,989 Oh, I had no idea. 569 00:17:09,990 --> 00:17:11,989 I had no idea that it would be such 570 00:17:11,990 --> 00:17:14,549 a focus for me. 571 00:17:14,550 --> 00:17:16,389 Definitely had no idea 572 00:17:16,390 --> 00:17:18,549 that these women 573 00:17:18,550 --> 00:17:20,469 that I didn't know I would 574 00:17:20,470 --> 00:17:22,389 come to just 575 00:17:22,390 --> 00:17:24,309 love, you know, they're some of 576 00:17:24,310 --> 00:17:26,629 my closest friends and 577 00:17:26,630 --> 00:17:28,789 that I'm out there practicing 578 00:17:28,790 --> 00:17:30,229 absolutely as much as I can. 579 00:17:30,230 --> 00:17:31,749 I would ha I hate missing a 580 00:17:31,750 --> 00:17:33,589 practice 'cause it just brings 581 00:17:33,590 --> 00:17:35,829 joy and energy to me. 582 00:17:35,830 --> 00:17:37,829 But to imagine that I would 583 00:17:37,830 --> 00:17:39,669 have this connection, I had 584 00:17:39,670 --> 00:17:40,949 no idea. 585 00:17:40,950 --> 00:17:42,709 Did it originally just feel like 586 00:17:42,710 --> 00:17:44,229 like an exercise, something that, 587 00:17:44,230 --> 00:17:45,429 you know, you should do and it'd be 588 00:17:45,430 --> 00:17:47,029 good for you, but then the emotional 589 00:17:47,030 --> 00:17:48,789 connection came as a little bit of a 590 00:17:48,790 --> 00:17:49,569 surprise? 591 00:17:49,570 --> 00:17:50,369 Absolutely. 592 00:17:50,370 --> 00:17:52,448 Absolutely. I mean, you 593 00:17:52,449 --> 00:17:54,448 know, working out feels 594 00:17:54,449 --> 00:17:56,849 good, but working out with women 595 00:17:56,850 --> 00:17:58,928 that I'm totally 596 00:17:58,929 --> 00:18:00,769 connected and we're in 597 00:18:00,770 --> 00:18:02,609 sync paddling 598 00:18:02,610 --> 00:18:04,529 and I know that they have 599 00:18:04,530 --> 00:18:05,408 my back. 600 00:18:05,409 --> 00:18:07,089 Like if something comes up with 601 00:18:07,090 --> 00:18:09,009 anybody on our team, we're there for 602 00:18:09,010 --> 00:18:10,928 each other. You know, we have 603 00:18:10,929 --> 00:18:12,769 each other's back in all 604 00:18:12,770 --> 00:18:13,569 ways. 605 00:18:13,570 --> 00:18:15,729 And so that has been 606 00:18:15,730 --> 00:18:17,489 so fulfilling for me. 607 00:18:17,490 --> 00:18:19,329 That community is 608 00:18:19,330 --> 00:18:21,509 just really wonderful. 609 00:18:21,510 --> 00:18:23,189 And I'm guessing you didn't realize 610 00:18:23,190 --> 00:18:24,229 you were going to be given that 611 00:18:24,230 --> 00:18:24,849 gift. 612 00:18:24,850 --> 00:18:26,609 Absolutely, absolutely. 613 00:18:26,610 --> 00:18:28,688 I would never say that having breast 614 00:18:28,689 --> 00:18:30,609 cancer would be a gift, but I would 615 00:18:30,610 --> 00:18:32,448 definitely say that 616 00:18:32,449 --> 00:18:34,928 this team is 617 00:18:34,929 --> 00:18:37,009 the silver lining for 618 00:18:37,010 --> 00:18:37,888 sure. 619 00:18:37,889 --> 00:18:39,369 It's special. 620 00:18:39,370 --> 00:18:41,369 These are probably women that you 621 00:18:41,370 --> 00:18:43,049 you might not have a lot else in 622 00:18:43,050 --> 00:18:44,649 common with or you might not have 623 00:18:44,650 --> 00:18:46,649 run across in your in your normal 624 00:18:46,650 --> 00:18:47,529 day to day life. 625 00:18:47,530 --> 00:18:49,369 Yeah. But you have two things that 626 00:18:49,370 --> 00:18:50,729 that really connect you the love of 627 00:18:50,730 --> 00:18:52,889 the sport and having gone through 628 00:18:52,890 --> 00:18:54,789 a similar experience. 629 00:18:54,790 --> 00:18:55,539 Yes. 630 00:18:55,540 --> 00:18:57,539 And maybe the other stuff 631 00:18:57,540 --> 00:18:58,939 doesn't matter so much. 632 00:18:58,940 --> 00:19:00,619 Yeah, that's true. 633 00:19:00,620 --> 00:19:02,619 The connection is the most 634 00:19:02,620 --> 00:19:05,419 important thing and definitely, 635 00:19:05,420 --> 00:19:08,059 you know, we have grown close 636 00:19:08,060 --> 00:19:10,059 during, you know, practices, 637 00:19:10,060 --> 00:19:12,059 races, the traveling that we've done 638 00:19:12,060 --> 00:19:14,139 together and we have like 639 00:19:14,140 --> 00:19:15,580 this amazing bond now. 640 00:19:17,030 --> 00:19:18,229 D you feel like you're gonna keep 641 00:19:18,230 --> 00:19:19,139 doing this for a long time? 642 00:19:19,140 --> 00:19:20,819 Oh yeah, absolutely. 643 00:19:20,820 --> 00:19:22,099 For the rest of my life. 644 00:19:22,100 --> 00:19:24,419 And if I was ever to move anywhere 645 00:19:24,420 --> 00:19:26,259 else, the very first thing 646 00:19:26,260 --> 00:19:28,339 I'd want to do is find a dragon 647 00:19:28,340 --> 00:19:30,339 boat team. And if I couldn't find 648 00:19:30,340 --> 00:19:31,859 a team, I would do everything I 649 00:19:31,860 --> 00:19:32,819 could to start one. 650 00:19:32,820 --> 00:19:34,979 I mean, it's really that powerful. 651 00:19:34,980 --> 00:19:36,019 So you're not gonna move anywhere 652 00:19:36,020 --> 00:19:37,139 where there's not a river or a lake 653 00:19:37,140 --> 00:19:38,140 that you can 654 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:40,918 It's really fun. 655 00:19:40,919 --> 00:19:42,918 We had of a team member who 656 00:19:42,919 --> 00:19:44,759 came from the Pacific Northwest and 657 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:46,759 she said there were so many teams up 658 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,438 in Portland area. 659 00:19:48,439 --> 00:19:50,359 And there's many teams in 660 00:19:50,360 --> 00:19:52,759 Canada, believe it or not. 661 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,079 Lots of teams in 662 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,918 Florida and in 663 00:19:56,919 --> 00:19:59,398 the Northeast, there's teams. 664 00:19:59,399 --> 00:20:01,319 There's a team in Dallas, 665 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:02,759 Houston. 666 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,158 They have a big race in Arizona 667 00:20:05,159 --> 00:20:06,359 every year. 668 00:20:06,360 --> 00:20:09,239 So it's growing. 669 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:11,239 And you know, there's teams 670 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,559 in France and Italy 671 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,039 and New Zealand. 672 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:17,878 And so it's 673 00:20:17,879 --> 00:20:19,799 worldwide and growing. 674 00:20:22,360 --> 00:20:24,359 Remember to breathe. 675 00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:26,039 We had an exciting thing in 676 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,959 Vancouver. Oh tell me. 677 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,159 One of our 678 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,279 our drummer who 679 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,119 was there for the first day, 680 00:20:34,120 --> 00:20:36,199 she had to leave 681 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,039 and so her to 682 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:39,719 take her son to a summer camp. 683 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:41,559 So we were short one person, and for 684 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,319 a race it's mandated that you have 685 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:44,359 to have a drummer. 686 00:20:44,360 --> 00:20:46,279 So the next race we were in the next 687 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:47,959 day, we were short. 688 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:49,638 We had to move one of our paddlers 689 00:20:49,639 --> 00:20:50,678 to drumming. 690 00:20:50,679 --> 00:20:52,678 So we had nineteen 691 00:20:52,679 --> 00:20:54,279 paddlers instead of twenty. 692 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,678 And in that race, previously 693 00:20:56,679 --> 00:20:58,119 we had come in first 694 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:01,158 in two races, and then 695 00:21:01,159 --> 00:21:02,759 that one where we were short a 696 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:04,999 paddler, we came in sixth 697 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,279 place. And so 698 00:21:07,419 --> 00:21:09,339 Luckily our manager 699 00:21:09,340 --> 00:21:11,178 realized that she could go 700 00:21:11,179 --> 00:21:13,099 talk to the 701 00:21:13,100 --> 00:21:15,019 race people and they had a 702 00:21:15,020 --> 00:21:16,859 steersperson that they 703 00:21:16,860 --> 00:21:18,698 could loan us for 704 00:21:18,699 --> 00:21:20,299 the race, so that meant we could 705 00:21:20,300 --> 00:21:22,458 move one of our paddlers back into 706 00:21:22,459 --> 00:21:24,378 the seat to paddle. 707 00:21:24,379 --> 00:21:26,779 So we had a temporary 708 00:21:26,780 --> 00:21:28,859 steersperson and all of our paddlers 709 00:21:28,860 --> 00:21:30,458 and our drummer and so in that one 710 00:21:30,459 --> 00:21:31,898 we came in third, which was so 711 00:21:31,899 --> 00:21:32,979 exciting. 712 00:21:32,980 --> 00:21:35,459 That really shows you how 713 00:21:35,460 --> 00:21:37,378 how important every person 714 00:21:37,379 --> 00:21:38,658 on that boat is. 715 00:21:38,659 --> 00:21:40,819 Yes. If I mean, if you've got twenty 716 00:21:40,820 --> 00:21:42,658 paddlers, a lay 717 00:21:42,659 --> 00:21:43,938 person might think, You could 718 00:21:43,939 --> 00:21:46,019 probably do without one and you'd 719 00:21:46,020 --> 00:21:47,138 be fine, right? Right. 720 00:21:47,139 --> 00:21:48,979 But obviously made a huge 721 00:21:48,980 --> 00:21:49,509 difference. 722 00:21:49,510 --> 00:21:51,029 Huge difference. We went from first 723 00:21:51,030 --> 00:21:51,829 to sixth. 724 00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:53,749 So we really need every single 725 00:21:53,750 --> 00:21:55,589 one of our paddlers doing their 726 00:21:55,590 --> 00:21:57,509 best. One person, 727 00:21:57,510 --> 00:21:59,269 there's just as important as 728 00:21:59,270 --> 00:22:01,229 everybody else on the team. 729 00:22:01,230 --> 00:22:03,069 Right. That's a there's a lesson 730 00:22:03,070 --> 00:22:04,269 in there somewhere, isn't there? 731 00:22:04,270 --> 00:22:05,270 Yeah. 732 00:22:06,030 --> 00:22:07,229 Long and strong. 733 00:22:09,220 --> 00:22:10,639 Reach into that front. 734 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,319 I'm sixty years old. 735 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,319 So there aren't that many 736 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,479 opportunities for women 737 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,399 of a certain age to 738 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,879 do competitive team sports. 739 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,439 So to have that chance 740 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,679 and to feel the joy that we feel, 741 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,520 it's pretty dang exciting. 742 00:22:28,850 --> 00:22:30,209 To hear more from that episode, we 743 00:22:30,210 --> 00:22:32,449 have a link at K U T.org 744 00:22:32,450 --> 00:22:33,969 slash signal. 745 00:22:33,970 --> 00:22:36,128 Thank you to KUT's Andrew Weber 746 00:22:36,129 --> 00:22:39,009 and to KUTX's Maile Carballo. 747 00:22:39,010 --> 00:22:40,609 This is Austin Signal. 748 00:22:40,610 --> 00:22:41,969 We will talk to you tomorrow. 749 00:22:41,970 --> 00:22:42,970 Thanks for listening.