1 00:00:09,990 --> 00:00:11,609 Whooping cough is particularly 2 00:00:11,610 --> 00:00:12,969 dangerous to infants and young 3 00:00:12,970 --> 00:00:14,869 children, and it's a growing concern 4 00:00:14,870 --> 00:00:17,329 here in Austin and across Texas. 5 00:00:17,330 --> 00:00:18,409 Austin's local health authority 6 00:00:18,410 --> 00:00:20,369 continues to report cases, as 7 00:00:20,370 --> 00:00:21,749 does the state's Department of 8 00:00:21,750 --> 00:00:22,789 Health Services. 9 00:00:22,790 --> 00:00:23,969 We're going to hear more about the 10 00:00:23,970 --> 00:00:25,889 local and statewide numbers. 11 00:00:25,890 --> 00:00:27,829 Plus, Texas teens face more barriers 12 00:00:27,830 --> 00:00:29,589 to getting an abortion than other 13 00:00:29,590 --> 00:00:31,469 age groups after the state six-week 14 00:00:31,470 --> 00:00:33,109 abortion ban went into effect in 15 00:00:33,110 --> 00:00:34,689 2021. 16 00:00:34,690 --> 00:00:35,949 The findings of a new study that 17 00:00:35,950 --> 00:00:37,889 looks at the impact on Texas and its 18 00:00:37,890 --> 00:00:38,709 surrounding states. 19 00:00:38,710 --> 00:00:40,329 That's coming up. 20 00:00:40,330 --> 00:00:42,249 The Austin Signal is a production 21 00:00:42,250 --> 00:00:44,329 of KUT News, hosted by 22 00:00:44,330 --> 00:00:45,309 Jerry Quijano. 23 00:00:45,310 --> 00:00:46,649 And there's a new book out that 24 00:00:46,650 --> 00:00:48,309 captures this moment in time in 25 00:00:48,310 --> 00:00:49,929 Austin's music scene. 26 00:00:49,930 --> 00:00:51,129 We're going to chat with a couple of 27 00:00:51,130 --> 00:00:53,409 the folks behind that effort. 28 00:00:53,410 --> 00:00:54,629 That is up next. 29 00:00:54,630 --> 00:00:56,929 And it's right here on Austin 30 00:00:56,930 --> 00:00:57,930 Signal. 31 00:01:08,660 --> 00:01:10,799 Thank you for tuning in out there. 32 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:12,539 This is Austin Signal. 33 00:01:12,540 --> 00:01:13,659 I'm Jerry Quijano. 34 00:01:13,660 --> 00:01:15,479 It's Monday the 17th, already 35 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:17,239 more than halfway through November, 36 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,419 nearly the end of 2025. 37 00:01:20,420 --> 00:01:22,339 Thank you spending part of your day 38 00:01:22,340 --> 00:01:24,079 here with us. 39 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,639 A quick check in with the KUT 40 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:26,619 newsroom. 41 00:01:26,620 --> 00:01:27,799 The Austin Independent School 42 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,379 District made some changes to 43 00:01:29,380 --> 00:01:30,419 programming and student 44 00:01:30,420 --> 00:01:32,319 reassignments in the final 45 00:01:32,320 --> 00:01:33,899 version of a school consolidation 46 00:01:33,900 --> 00:01:35,959 plan that was released late last 47 00:01:35,960 --> 00:01:36,889 Friday. 48 00:01:36,890 --> 00:01:38,629 10 schools are still set to close 49 00:01:38,630 --> 00:01:40,489 before next school year. 50 00:01:40,490 --> 00:01:42,349 Superintendent Matias Segura says 51 00:01:42,350 --> 00:01:44,349 the revised plan reassigns just 52 00:01:44,350 --> 00:01:46,349 short of 4,000 students 53 00:01:46,350 --> 00:01:49,529 and eliminates more than 6,300 54 00:01:49,530 --> 00:01:51,509 empty seats from the district, a 55 00:01:51,510 --> 00:01:52,689 district that has been seeing 56 00:01:52,690 --> 00:01:54,509 declining enrollment over 57 00:01:54,510 --> 00:01:55,949 the last decade. 58 00:01:55,950 --> 00:01:57,649 That plan is expected to help save 59 00:01:57,650 --> 00:01:59,729 more than $20 million. 60 00:01:59,730 --> 00:02:02,029 The AISD Board of Trustees is 61 00:02:02,030 --> 00:02:03,369 set to vote on the plan this 62 00:02:03,370 --> 00:02:05,369 Thursday, along with the turnaround 63 00:02:05,370 --> 00:02:07,579 plans. For two dozen 64 00:02:07,580 --> 00:02:08,580 schools. 65 00:02:09,460 --> 00:02:11,399 Whooping cough is a growing problem 66 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:12,899 here in the Austin area. 67 00:02:12,900 --> 00:02:14,979 Whooping Cough or Pertussis cases 68 00:02:14,980 --> 00:02:16,719 continue to be confirmed by Austin 69 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,899 Public Health, and it's not just 70 00:02:18,900 --> 00:02:20,279 happening locally. 71 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:21,719 The Texas Department of State Health 72 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:24,559 Services reports a surge statewide. 73 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,379 Texas has seen 3,500 cases 74 00:02:26,380 --> 00:02:28,379 through October of this year. 75 00:02:28,380 --> 00:02:30,419 That is approximately four times 76 00:02:30,420 --> 00:02:31,779 more than there were reported during 77 00:02:31,780 --> 00:02:33,289 the same period last year. 78 00:02:33,290 --> 00:02:35,349 More than 10 times the case is 79 00:02:35,350 --> 00:02:37,209 reported in the same period two 80 00:02:37,210 --> 00:02:38,409 years ago. 81 00:02:38,410 --> 00:02:39,869 Here to talk about this more is 82 00:02:39,870 --> 00:02:41,869 KUT's healthcare reporter Olivia 83 00:02:41,870 --> 00:02:43,089 Aldridge. Olivia, thanks for being 84 00:02:43,090 --> 00:02:44,199 with us. 85 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:44,949 Hi, Jerry. 86 00:02:44,950 --> 00:02:46,809 So do officials have any idea 87 00:02:46,810 --> 00:02:48,769 why we're experiencing and seeing 88 00:02:48,770 --> 00:02:49,829 this uptick in cases? 89 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:52,679 Well, vaccination rates for whooping 90 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,439 cough are down, and it's a very 91 00:02:54,440 --> 00:02:56,079 contagious illness, so it'll spread 92 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,479 more if fewer people are vaccinated. 93 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:00,039 And that's why the state health 94 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:01,659 department is really urging parents 95 00:03:01,660 --> 00:03:03,699 to make sure that their kids get the 96 00:03:03,700 --> 00:03:05,179 Tdap vaccine. 97 00:03:05,180 --> 00:03:07,259 That also protects against tetanus 98 00:03:07,260 --> 00:03:08,619 and diphtheria. 99 00:03:08,620 --> 00:03:10,479 And for adults to look into 100 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,299 a booster, if they are around 101 00:03:12,300 --> 00:03:13,619 people who are vulnerable to 102 00:03:13,620 --> 00:03:15,099 whooping-cough, that includes 103 00:03:15,100 --> 00:03:17,159 infants, pregnant women, and 104 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,209 anyone who's immunocompromised, 105 00:03:19,210 --> 00:03:21,569 You mentioned that Tdap vaccine. 106 00:03:21,570 --> 00:03:22,949 Austin Public Health expects that 107 00:03:22,950 --> 00:03:24,789 there were several cases that passed 108 00:03:24,790 --> 00:03:26,949 around at Austin school campuses, 109 00:03:26,950 --> 00:03:28,989 but the whooping cough vaccine, 110 00:03:28,990 --> 00:03:30,889 that T-dap, it's required for 111 00:03:30,890 --> 00:03:31,890 schools, is it not? 112 00:03:32,980 --> 00:03:34,799 Yeah, kids are technically required 113 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:36,659 in Texas to get a Tdap vaccine 114 00:03:36,660 --> 00:03:38,759 before starting school, but 115 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:40,719 fewer people are actually getting 116 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,779 it. So in Austin ISD specifically, 117 00:03:43,780 --> 00:03:45,699 just 74% of kindergartners 118 00:03:45,700 --> 00:03:47,579 were up to date on that shot during 119 00:03:47,580 --> 00:03:49,459 the 2024, 25 school 120 00:03:49,460 --> 00:03:51,639 year, around 85% 121 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:53,399 among seventh graders. 122 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:54,879 In Texas, you can get a 123 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,979 conscientious exemption for required 124 00:03:56,980 --> 00:03:58,859 vaccines like this, but the data 125 00:03:58,860 --> 00:04:00,759 also shows us that locally, 126 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,419 not all of these kids actually have 127 00:04:02,420 --> 00:04:05,439 those exemptions on file and 128 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,539 rates for pretty much all vaccines 129 00:04:07,540 --> 00:04:10,299 have been slipping since COVID. 130 00:04:10,300 --> 00:04:12,119 For a story I did earlier this year 131 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:13,759 that was more focused on measles 132 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:15,779 vaccination rates, folks at 133 00:04:15,780 --> 00:04:17,439 Austin ISD told me that it's just 134 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,489 been. Battle for a number of 135 00:04:19,490 --> 00:04:21,049 reasons getting everyone into 136 00:04:21,050 --> 00:04:23,429 compliance since that time when 137 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:25,239 things were pretty disrupted. 138 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:26,739 Whooping cough was not something I 139 00:04:26,740 --> 00:04:28,739 would heard all that much whenever I 140 00:04:28,740 --> 00:04:30,119 was a youth so I'm learning a little 141 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,779 bit as we're going around it seems 142 00:04:31,780 --> 00:04:33,899 as though it's more dangerous the 143 00:04:33,900 --> 00:04:36,219 younger the affected person is 144 00:04:36,220 --> 00:04:38,119 who really needs to be most 145 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:39,159 concerned here when it comes to 146 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,289 whooping cough. 147 00:04:40,290 --> 00:04:41,749 Sure, right? It sounds kind of like 148 00:04:41,750 --> 00:04:43,669 an old-timey Victorian illness, 149 00:04:43,670 --> 00:04:43,930 doesn't it? 150 00:04:43,931 --> 00:04:45,429 It really does it sounds like like a 151 00:04:45,430 --> 00:04:46,429 fainting couch or something you need 152 00:04:46,430 --> 00:04:47,709 to get fainten couch for your 153 00:04:47,710 --> 00:04:48,809 whooping cough or something like 154 00:04:48,810 --> 00:04:49,449 that 155 00:04:49,450 --> 00:04:51,309 Sure, but it is descriptive, 156 00:04:51,310 --> 00:04:52,869 it's, you know, people start off 157 00:04:52,870 --> 00:04:54,189 with a little bit of a cold, then 158 00:04:54,190 --> 00:04:55,469 they're getting this really serious 159 00:04:55,470 --> 00:04:56,949 persistent cough that kind of does 160 00:04:56,950 --> 00:04:59,089 have this distinctive whooping sound 161 00:04:59,090 --> 00:05:00,329 potentially. 162 00:05:00,330 --> 00:05:02,269 It can be pretty mild for many 163 00:05:02,270 --> 00:05:04,249 people, but especially for 164 00:05:04,250 --> 00:05:06,149 babies under the age of one, it 165 00:05:06,150 --> 00:05:07,789 can be pretty dangerous. 166 00:05:07,790 --> 00:05:09,269 They can struggle to breathe, they 167 00:05:09,270 --> 00:05:11,409 can stop breathing, and 168 00:05:11,410 --> 00:05:13,529 again, DSHS says around 169 00:05:13,530 --> 00:05:15,449 a third of infants with whooping 170 00:05:15,450 --> 00:05:17,399 cough end up hospitalized. 171 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:19,039 We can read more about Olivia's 172 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:20,979 reporting on Whooping Cough over at 173 00:05:20,980 --> 00:05:22,539 KUT.org. 174 00:05:22,540 --> 00:05:24,239 I want to switch topics to another 175 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,479 story that you reported last week, 176 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:28,039 which is that Texans under the age 177 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:29,839 of 18 were disproportionately 178 00:05:29,840 --> 00:05:31,659 affected after the state 179 00:05:31,660 --> 00:05:33,719 enacted its six-week abortion ban 180 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,699 back in 2021. 181 00:05:35,700 --> 00:05:36,959 First off, who conducted this study 182 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,319 and what time frame were they 183 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:39,320 looking at? 184 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,219 So it was published in the American 185 00:05:41,220 --> 00:05:42,979 Journal of Public Health, and some 186 00:05:42,980 --> 00:05:44,159 of the authors are part of this 187 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,039 Texas-based research group called 188 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,799 ReSound Research for Reproductive 189 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:48,599 Health. 190 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:49,939 They used to be affiliated with UT 191 00:05:49,940 --> 00:05:50,919 Austin. 192 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:52,399 They looked at this time period 193 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,259 around when Texas's Senate 194 00:05:54,260 --> 00:05:55,419 Bill 8 was passed. 195 00:05:55,420 --> 00:05:57,539 That was the approximately six-week 196 00:05:57,540 --> 00:05:59,559 abortion ban passed 197 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:01,079 prior to Roe versus Wade being 198 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:02,219 overturned. 199 00:06:02,220 --> 00:06:03,799 Of course we now have a more 200 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,939 restrictive total ban, 201 00:06:05,940 --> 00:06:07,919 but data from this period is 202 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,419 interesting to researchers because 203 00:06:09,420 --> 00:06:10,979 it's some of the earliest data 204 00:06:10,980 --> 00:06:12,999 available on the effects of 205 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:14,899 restrictive abortion bans kind of 206 00:06:14,900 --> 00:06:17,298 in this era and 207 00:06:17,299 --> 00:06:19,199 can maybe indicate more of 208 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,939 what we might be seeing in states 209 00:06:20,940 --> 00:06:22,539 across the country now. 210 00:06:22,540 --> 00:06:24,059 Well, from reading your reporting at 211 00:06:24,060 --> 00:06:26,199 kut.org, I noticed that overall 212 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:27,919 facility-based abortions dropped in 213 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,939 Texas, but when it came to patients 214 00:06:29,940 --> 00:06:31,839 under 18, they were way down, 215 00:06:31,840 --> 00:06:33,659 60% fewer during the 216 00:06:33,660 --> 00:06:35,059 time of the study. 217 00:06:35,060 --> 00:06:36,319 We're obviously here in Texas so 218 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:37,679 we're worried about that. 219 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,859 Did we see that there 220 00:06:39,860 --> 00:06:41,219 was an effect on abortion numbers in 221 00:06:41,220 --> 00:06:43,039 the states surrounding Texas in the 222 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,040 same time period? 223 00:06:45,100 --> 00:06:45,899 Yeah. 224 00:06:45,900 --> 00:06:47,299 So keep in mind with those 225 00:06:47,300 --> 00:06:48,919 statistics you're talking about, 226 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,298 there's only six weeks within 227 00:06:51,299 --> 00:06:52,899 time frame when people can be 228 00:06:52,900 --> 00:06:54,859 getting that procedure when 229 00:06:54,860 --> 00:06:56,019 this was the law. 230 00:06:56,020 --> 00:06:57,799 But the study's authors also looked 231 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,679 at Texans traveling to 232 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:00,720 surrounding states. 233 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:03,999 So it got statistics 234 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:05,939 on the number of Texans who 235 00:07:05,940 --> 00:07:07,959 left the state of Texas to six 236 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:09,919 surrounding states to have 237 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,759 in clinic abortions 238 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:12,760 there. 239 00:07:13,550 --> 00:07:15,189 What they found was that there were 240 00:07:15,190 --> 00:07:17,109 a lot more Texans doing that than 241 00:07:17,110 --> 00:07:19,549 before, maybe unsurprisingly, 242 00:07:19,550 --> 00:07:21,489 but it still didn't compensate for 243 00:07:21,490 --> 00:07:23,269 that overall decrease. 244 00:07:23,270 --> 00:07:24,449 It really didn't come close. 245 00:07:24,450 --> 00:07:26,489 So I think for minors under 246 00:07:26,490 --> 00:07:28,489 the age of 18, there was still an 247 00:07:28,490 --> 00:07:30,349 overall 26% 248 00:07:30,350 --> 00:07:32,429 decrease in the number of abortions 249 00:07:32,430 --> 00:07:33,689 they were getting, even if you 250 00:07:33,690 --> 00:07:36,149 included those out-of-state 251 00:07:36,150 --> 00:07:37,209 numbers. 252 00:07:37,210 --> 00:07:39,009 Okay Olivia, we only have about a 253 00:07:39,010 --> 00:07:40,509 minute left with you. 254 00:07:40,510 --> 00:07:41,669 Were there any other important 255 00:07:41,670 --> 00:07:43,649 takeaways that you found from this 256 00:07:43,650 --> 00:07:44,650 study? 257 00:07:44,940 --> 00:07:46,979 Well, I would note that, you know, 258 00:07:46,980 --> 00:07:48,859 as we discuss, laws and trends have 259 00:07:48,860 --> 00:07:49,939 changed. 260 00:07:49,940 --> 00:07:51,179 The study doesn't factor in 261 00:07:51,180 --> 00:07:53,079 telemedicine, for instance, so 262 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:54,679 medication abortion sent by mail 263 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,479 from doctors in other states. 264 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:57,959 And we know that that's increasingly 265 00:07:57,960 --> 00:07:59,739 common in the US and kind of the 266 00:07:59,740 --> 00:08:01,399 post-Roe era. 267 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,339 So it's not comprehensive of all the 268 00:08:03,340 --> 00:08:04,619 abortions that could have been 269 00:08:04,620 --> 00:08:05,739 taking place, but it does show us 270 00:08:05,740 --> 00:08:07,619 some interesting trends. 271 00:08:07,620 --> 00:08:08,579 All right, we have been speaking 272 00:08:08,580 --> 00:08:10,199 with Olivia Aldridge. 273 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,719 She is KUT's healthcare reporter, 274 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,359 and you can find more of her 275 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:17,459 reporting over at kut.org. 276 00:08:17,460 --> 00:08:18,499 Olivia, thank you for talking to us 277 00:08:18,500 --> 00:08:19,500 today. 278 00:08:27,260 --> 00:08:29,299 And thank you for being with us here 279 00:08:29,300 --> 00:08:30,779 on Austin Signal. 280 00:08:30,780 --> 00:08:32,319 You can hear us every weekday 281 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,178 afternoon at one o'clock on KUT 282 00:08:34,179 --> 00:08:36,119 News 90.5 on the 283 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,339 KUT app and online at 284 00:08:38,340 --> 00:08:40,219 KUT.org. 285 00:08:40,220 --> 00:08:42,038 Hope you're having a nice Monday 286 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:43,999 and hey maybe your Monday 287 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,059 morning commute seemed smoother 288 00:08:46,060 --> 00:08:48,039 than usual and if so 289 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,199 you are not imagining that. 290 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:52,039 New research shows that Monday 291 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,799 mornings have the fewest traffic 292 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,729 delays on average. 293 00:08:55,730 --> 00:08:57,849 Compared to rush hour during every 294 00:08:57,850 --> 00:08:59,129 other weekday. 295 00:08:59,130 --> 00:09:01,149 But as KUT's Nathan Bernier 296 00:09:01,150 --> 00:09:03,169 reports, the trend says more about 297 00:09:03,170 --> 00:09:05,209 who can skip traffic than 298 00:09:05,210 --> 00:09:06,570 how to fix it. 299 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:09,439 Nobody likes to go into the office 300 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,019 on Mondays, so for those who can 301 00:09:11,020 --> 00:09:12,959 choose which days to commute, 302 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,379 they tend to avoid it, and that 303 00:09:14,380 --> 00:09:16,079 creates an opportunity for people 304 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:17,699 like Kenna Pierce. 305 00:09:17,700 --> 00:09:19,559 She lives in South Austin and works 306 00:09:19,560 --> 00:09:20,369 in North Austin. 307 00:09:20,370 --> 00:09:22,309 I go to work on Monday and I take 35 308 00:09:22,310 --> 00:09:24,269 and the traffic is way less 309 00:09:24,270 --> 00:09:25,569 in the morning anyway. 310 00:09:25,570 --> 00:09:27,449 On the way home it's always bad. 311 00:09:27,450 --> 00:09:28,869 A new report by Texas A&M 312 00:09:28,870 --> 00:09:30,029 University's Transportation 313 00:09:30,030 --> 00:09:31,909 Institute backs that up. 314 00:09:31,910 --> 00:09:33,009 Researchers looked at traffic data 315 00:09:33,010 --> 00:09:35,869 in almost 500 cities natio nwide, 316 00:09:35,870 --> 00:09:37,649 and a clear trend emerged. 317 00:09:37,650 --> 00:09:38,709 Mondays is... 318 00:09:38,710 --> 00:09:40,789 Hands down the least 319 00:09:40,790 --> 00:09:42,309 congested weekday. 320 00:09:42,310 --> 00:09:43,689 David Schrank is a senior research 321 00:09:43,690 --> 00:09:44,989 scientist at the Texas A&M 322 00:09:44,990 --> 00:09:46,329 Transportation Institute. 323 00:09:46,330 --> 00:09:47,709 He's been studying urban mobility 324 00:09:47,710 --> 00:09:49,589 for more than 35 years, 325 00:09:49,590 --> 00:09:50,789 which is long enough to know that 326 00:09:50,790 --> 00:09:52,449 the same thing that makes Mondays 327 00:09:52,450 --> 00:09:54,249 smoother, basically people making 328 00:09:54,250 --> 00:09:55,709 their own choices about when to go 329 00:09:55,710 --> 00:09:57,769 into the office, can also make 330 00:09:57,770 --> 00:09:59,279 Mondays way worse. 331 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:01,519 Because you don't know 332 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,079 which Monday ever 333 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:05,819 employer in town is going to call 334 00:10:05,820 --> 00:10:07,959 their people in you're no one's 335 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:09,399 expecting it. And all of a sudden, 336 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:10,819 wham, everybody's out there trying 337 00:10:10,820 --> 00:10:12,419 to use the system at the same time. 338 00:10:12,420 --> 00:10:13,999 Or something else happens, like bad 339 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,739 weather is forecast on Wednesday, so 340 00:10:15,740 --> 00:10:17,079 people decide to go in Monday 341 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:17,959 instead. 342 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,199 Of course, not everyone has the 343 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,199 luxury of choosing which days to 344 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,159 commute, but Austin does have 345 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,019 an unusually large number of people 346 00:10:25,020 --> 00:10:26,579 who work from home at least one day 347 00:10:26,580 --> 00:10:27,819 a week, according to a poll 348 00:10:27,820 --> 00:10:30,159 conducted by Moveability Austin. 349 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,379 That's an organization whose main 350 00:10:31,380 --> 00:10:33,439 purpose is reducing traffic by 351 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:34,839 convincing people not to drive 352 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:35,389 alone. 353 00:10:35,390 --> 00:10:37,229 When people are stuck in traffic, 354 00:10:37,230 --> 00:10:38,609 they like to think it's the 355 00:10:38,610 --> 00:10:40,049 traffic's fault. But actually you 356 00:10:40,050 --> 00:10:41,029 are traffic. 357 00:10:41,030 --> 00:10:43,029 Lonnie Stern is MoveAbility's 358 00:10:43,030 --> 00:10:44,269 executive director. 359 00:10:44,270 --> 00:10:46,169 Their Austin area poll found about 360 00:10:46,170 --> 00:10:48,129 60% of Travis County 361 00:10:48,130 --> 00:10:49,689 respondents worked from home, at 362 00:10:49,690 --> 00:10:50,909 least occasionally. 363 00:10:50,910 --> 00:10:53,149 For Williamson County, it was 55%. 364 00:10:53,150 --> 00:10:55,589 For Hayes County, about 50%. 365 00:10:55,590 --> 00:10:57,529 The poll found remote work is an 366 00:10:57,530 --> 00:10:58,929 economic privilege. 367 00:10:58,930 --> 00:11:00,289 People allowed to work from home 368 00:11:00,290 --> 00:11:02,209 tended to have higher incomes, 369 00:11:02,210 --> 00:11:04,269 higher education, and were over 35 370 00:11:04,270 --> 00:11:05,369 years old. 371 00:11:05,370 --> 00:11:07,409 And remote work just is not possible 372 00:11:07,410 --> 00:11:08,889 for much of the workforce that's 373 00:11:08,890 --> 00:11:09,999 considered essential. 374 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,059 Like those in retail, healthcare, 375 00:11:12,060 --> 00:11:13,019 construction, or hospita- 376 00:11:13,020 --> 00:11:14,859 Work from home isn't going to be 377 00:11:14,860 --> 00:11:15,799 a panacea. 378 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,119 We find that people who work from 379 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,959 home may then take extra 380 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,379 trips during those off hours. 381 00:11:21,380 --> 00:11:22,699 So that's why we're starting to see 382 00:11:22,700 --> 00:11:24,739 the midday traffic spike 383 00:11:24,740 --> 00:11:26,659 where it used to be very 384 00:11:26,660 --> 00:11:28,539 predictable. Everyone drove in and 385 00:11:28,540 --> 00:11:30,499 everyone drove out for the workday. 386 00:11:30,500 --> 00:11:32,079 Now they're making all these trips 387 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:33,080 in the middle of the day. 388 00:11:35,180 --> 00:11:37,019 Texas A&M's research found the 389 00:11:37,020 --> 00:11:38,119 same thing. 390 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,079 Another factor is all the extra 391 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,039 trips by delivery trucks because 392 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,439 of more people shopping online. 393 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:46,119 And more baby boomers have retired 394 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,519 and now they're driving around 395 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:49,119 during the middle of the day. 396 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,179 So if Monday is the best day 397 00:11:51,180 --> 00:11:53,739 to commute, what's the worst day? 398 00:11:53,740 --> 00:11:55,599 On average, across all the roads 399 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,819 measured in Austin, it was Thursday, 400 00:11:58,820 --> 00:12:00,739 especially afternoons between four 401 00:12:00,740 --> 00:12:03,139 and six p.m., in Austin anyway. 402 00:12:03,140 --> 00:12:05,059 In Houston, Dallas, and San 403 00:12:05,060 --> 00:12:07,079 Antonio, Fridays between 4 404 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,059 and 5 is still the worst time 405 00:12:09,060 --> 00:12:10,599 to be on the roads. 406 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:11,839 I'm Nathan Bernier in Austin. 407 00:12:22,930 --> 00:12:24,909 It's Austin Signal, thank you 408 00:12:24,910 --> 00:12:25,789 for being with us. 409 00:12:25,790 --> 00:12:27,829 We hope your Monday morning 410 00:12:27,830 --> 00:12:30,049 and Monday afternoons commute goes 411 00:12:30,050 --> 00:12:31,129 smooth. 412 00:12:31,130 --> 00:12:32,889 Something that didn't move very 413 00:12:32,890 --> 00:12:35,089 smooth this weekend was the Texas 414 00:12:35,090 --> 00:12:36,149 football team. 415 00:12:36,150 --> 00:12:38,009 They came up short in a road game 416 00:12:38,010 --> 00:12:40,029 against Georgia, and joining me 417 00:12:40,030 --> 00:12:41,789 now to talk a little more about that 418 00:12:41,790 --> 00:12:43,109 is KUT's Jimmy Maas. 419 00:12:43,110 --> 00:12:44,428 Howdy, Jimmy. 420 00:12:44,429 --> 00:12:45,909 Good afternoon, Jerry. 421 00:12:45,910 --> 00:12:47,509 So Jimmy, a final score of the game 422 00:12:47,510 --> 00:12:49,729 against Georgia, 35 to 10, 423 00:12:49,730 --> 00:12:50,989 seems like a walloping. 424 00:12:50,990 --> 00:12:52,749 Was the game any closer than the 425 00:12:52,750 --> 00:12:53,279 score indicated? 426 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,159 A score not indicative of 427 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:56,419 the game. 428 00:12:56,420 --> 00:12:58,319 Although, man, the game and 429 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:00,219 the season really did unravel quite 430 00:13:00,220 --> 00:13:02,219 quickly there in the fourth quarter. 431 00:13:02,220 --> 00:13:04,279 They were only down four points. 432 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,399 Texas, I mean. 433 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,079 Georgia was leading by four. 434 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:09,159 And then on the ensuing drive, 435 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:10,859 they had a fourth down, seemingly 436 00:13:10,860 --> 00:13:12,399 they stopped Georgia with a little 437 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,339 momentum. 438 00:13:13,340 --> 00:13:15,759 And then a fake punt. 439 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,879 And then four downs later, 440 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:19,539 the costly penalty on another fourth 441 00:13:19,540 --> 00:13:21,519 down. And then, a quick touchdown, 442 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:22,399 and then a quick. 443 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,339 Onside kick that fooled Texas. 444 00:13:24,340 --> 00:13:25,359 It happened very fast. 445 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,499 Next thing you know, it is, they're 446 00:13:27,500 --> 00:13:29,799 18 points down and they 447 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,339 had nowhere to go. 448 00:13:31,340 --> 00:13:32,559 There was kind of a junk touchdown 449 00:13:32,560 --> 00:13:34,719 at the end, but with 450 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:35,720 that, 451 00:13:37,140 --> 00:13:38,559 there were a lot of expectations on 452 00:13:38,560 --> 00:13:40,279 this Texas team and I think if you 453 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:41,799 were trying to hold that team to 454 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,659 that same standard the pre-season 455 00:13:43,660 --> 00:13:45,599 number one, that was a very 456 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:46,699 disappointing game. 457 00:13:46,700 --> 00:13:48,519 Absolutely absolutely as like you 458 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:49,999 said preseason number one this team 459 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:51,619 had made the college football 460 00:13:51,620 --> 00:13:53,979 playoff two times in a row I'm 461 00:13:53,980 --> 00:13:55,719 If you are holding Texas to the 462 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,439 standard that is the highest 463 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,519 grossing athletic department 464 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,459 in division one sports, 465 00:14:01,460 --> 00:14:03,399 it is a very disappointing game. 466 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,119 If you have some sort of circumspect 467 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,939 view that like, well, it's a 468 00:14:07,940 --> 00:14:09,879 young team, young quarterback read, 469 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:10,879 you know, it s hard to make the 470 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:12,719 playoffs for three years in a row 471 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,699 and it's 472 00:14:14,700 --> 00:14:16,599 very even more difficult to come 473 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,338 in with those kind of manning sized 474 00:14:19,339 --> 00:14:20,700 expectations and live up to them. 475 00:14:22,210 --> 00:14:24,069 This season may be right about where 476 00:14:24,070 --> 00:14:26,449 you'd expect and it's not over. 477 00:14:26,450 --> 00:14:28,249 It's there's still a little. 478 00:14:28,250 --> 00:14:30,229 Little bit to play there's a little 479 00:14:30,230 --> 00:14:32,129 bit of sliver of hope that the you 480 00:14:32,130 --> 00:14:33,489 have a game this weekend against 481 00:14:33,490 --> 00:14:35,669 Arkansas here I DKR Arkansas 482 00:14:35,670 --> 00:14:37,849 here closing out next Friday against 483 00:14:37,850 --> 00:14:38,969 Texas A&M and that 484 00:14:38,970 --> 00:14:40,209 That game will determine whether 485 00:14:40,210 --> 00:14:42,169 Texas A&M may get into the SEC 486 00:14:42,170 --> 00:14:42,559 Championship. 487 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,379 That's right, so lots to play for 488 00:14:44,380 --> 00:14:45,219 still. 489 00:14:45,220 --> 00:14:46,879 That's KUT's Jimmy Maas with a quick 490 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:48,059 update on the Longhorns. 491 00:14:48,060 --> 00:14:49,279 Jimmy, thank you. Thank you. 492 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:50,879 And thank you for tuning in to 493 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:51,859 Austin Signal. 494 00:14:51,860 --> 00:14:53,360 We will be back in just a moment. 495 00:14:59,990 --> 00:15:01,549 You're tuned in to Austin Signal 496 00:15:01,550 --> 00:15:02,909 here on KUT News. 497 00:15:02,910 --> 00:15:03,949 Thank you for making this part of 498 00:15:03,950 --> 00:15:05,029 your Monday. 499 00:15:05,030 --> 00:15:06,309 You know that feeling when you wanna 500 00:15:06,310 --> 00:15:08,189 look up a favorite old local band 501 00:15:08,190 --> 00:15:10,009 or photos from a now shuttered 502 00:15:10,010 --> 00:15:11,729 venue, and once you've finally found 503 00:15:11,730 --> 00:15:13,429 an archived link that sends you down 504 00:15:13,430 --> 00:15:15,509 nostalgia lane, eeeek, 505 00:15:15,510 --> 00:15:17,349 a piece of the internet no longer 506 00:15:17,350 --> 00:15:18,429 exists. 507 00:15:18,430 --> 00:15:20,309 A fantastic alternative to that is 508 00:15:20,310 --> 00:15:22,269 a good old fashioned hold it in your 509 00:15:22,270 --> 00:15:24,509 hand book, a lasting testament to 510 00:15:24,510 --> 00:15:26,490 a sound and to a moment in time. 511 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:29,279 Out now that's putting a new shine 512 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:30,999 on the artist venues and stories 513 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:32,839 right at the heart of our local 514 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:34,779 community music community it's 515 00:15:34,780 --> 00:15:36,239 called austin's music scene your 516 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:37,679 guide to the city's most iconic 517 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,599 artists and venues and today 518 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:40,799 we're joined by the book's 519 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,919 editor-in-chief mitch baronowski and 520 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:44,819 its photo editor david brendan hall 521 00:15:44,820 --> 00:15:46,079 uh gentlemen thank you for coming on 522 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:46,889 Austin Signal. 523 00:15:46,890 --> 00:15:48,049 Thank you for having us. 524 00:15:48,050 --> 00:15:48,979 It's great to be here. 525 00:15:48,980 --> 00:15:49,779 Thank you. 526 00:15:49,780 --> 00:15:51,699 Well, Mitch, let me start with you. 527 00:15:51,700 --> 00:15:53,059 Why did you and your team, you know, 528 00:15:53,060 --> 00:15:53,859 why did you want to create this 529 00:15:53,860 --> 00:15:55,289 guidebook in the first place? 530 00:15:55,290 --> 00:15:57,269 You know, we are a 531 00:15:57,270 --> 00:15:59,089 team of fans and 532 00:15:59,090 --> 00:16:01,109 journalists and creatives, 533 00:16:01,110 --> 00:16:02,969 and we were 534 00:16:02,970 --> 00:16:04,549 chatting with the folks at HAM. 535 00:16:04,550 --> 00:16:06,149 It's their 20th anniversary at the 536 00:16:06,150 --> 00:16:06,989 Health Alliance for Austin 537 00:16:06,990 --> 00:16:08,669 Musicians, and wanted to do 538 00:16:08,670 --> 00:16:10,129 something special. 539 00:16:10,130 --> 00:16:11,949 And we, in taking a look at 540 00:16:11,950 --> 00:16:13,809 the landscape, we realized no 541 00:16:13,810 --> 00:16:15,749 one's ever really tried a book about 542 00:16:15,750 --> 00:16:17,689 the current live music scene. 543 00:16:17,690 --> 00:16:19,689 We have so much talent in this town. 544 00:16:19,690 --> 00:16:21,129 We've had our history books. 545 00:16:21,130 --> 00:16:23,069 We've our biographies 546 00:16:23,070 --> 00:16:24,249 and our memoirs. 547 00:16:24,250 --> 00:16:26,249 But we haven't had a snapshot of the 548 00:16:26,250 --> 00:16:27,129 scene today. 549 00:16:27,130 --> 00:16:28,929 And so we really set out to create a 550 00:16:28,930 --> 00:16:30,309 love letter, if you will, because 551 00:16:30,310 --> 00:16:32,989 let's face it for a lot of 552 00:16:32,990 --> 00:16:34,829 musicians, a lot artists, it's 553 00:16:34,830 --> 00:16:35,669 a labor of love. 554 00:16:35,670 --> 00:16:37,429 And this project was for us a labor 555 00:16:37,430 --> 00:16:37,799 love. 556 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:38,800 Yeah, absolutely. 557 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,879 I think that one 558 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,159 of the challenges was 559 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,099 figuring out how we create 560 00:16:47,100 --> 00:16:49,059 this snapshot. 561 00:16:49,060 --> 00:16:50,719 And one thing we wanted to do, just 562 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:52,699 to clarify that a little bit, 563 00:16:52,700 --> 00:16:53,999 was make it so that all the artists 564 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,199 that you see in the book are active 565 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:57,839 right now. The idea that you can 566 00:16:57,840 --> 00:16:59,579 pick up the book, read about an 567 00:16:59,580 --> 00:17:01,539 artist, check out the photos, and go 568 00:17:01,540 --> 00:17:02,739 see them. Find out when they're 569 00:17:02,740 --> 00:17:04,279 playing something. Yeah, exactly. 570 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:06,299 So There is an 571 00:17:06,300 --> 00:17:08,239 immediacy to the concept of the book 572 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:10,019 also, which is the difference that 573 00:17:10,020 --> 00:17:11,818 Mitch was talking about, you know, 574 00:17:11,819 --> 00:17:14,039 rather than a Retrospective 575 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:15,358 or something like that. 576 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:16,719 Of course, it may turn into that 577 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:17,200 over time. Yeah 578 00:17:17,201 --> 00:17:19,098 Yeah, but it's starting out at this 579 00:17:19,099 --> 00:17:19,999 at this stage, right? 580 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:21,159 You mentioned that immediacy. 581 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,919 I love that You know, there's an 582 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,519 index of artists. You can actually 583 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,539 fold through the pages and see 584 00:17:26,540 --> 00:17:28,358 Everything photos look beautiful 585 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:30,199 How important was it for this thing 586 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,819 to actually be like a tangible book 587 00:17:31,820 --> 00:17:33,639 and not just an online guide? 588 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:34,579 Not that there's anything wrong with 589 00:17:34,580 --> 00:17:35,899 that. But how important was for this 590 00:17:35,900 --> 00:17:37,439 to be a real thing that people could 591 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:38,440 hold? 592 00:17:38,780 --> 00:17:39,779 Super important. 593 00:17:39,780 --> 00:17:41,139 I mean, we have, we have a digital 594 00:17:41,140 --> 00:17:43,179 companion to the book as well, 595 00:17:43,180 --> 00:17:44,759 where we're, we'll be sharing 596 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,559 exclusive content, bonus content 597 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,599 that you can't find on the page. 598 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,499 But, um, how awesome, uh, 599 00:17:50,500 --> 00:17:52,479 to have something that feels like 600 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:53,939 a coffee table book, but also has 601 00:17:53,940 --> 00:17:55,839 the practicality of a field guide, 602 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,579 if you will, and our friend Emma 603 00:17:57,580 --> 00:17:59,399 Schmidt, just to call out one of the 604 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,019 many talented folks who worked on 605 00:18:01,020 --> 00:18:02,779 the, on the book with us, uh did 606 00:18:02,780 --> 00:18:04,199 these amazing hand-drawn 607 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,339 illustrations of venues across 608 00:18:06,340 --> 00:18:07,139 town. 609 00:18:07,140 --> 00:18:09,259 Inside the back cover, it folds out 610 00:18:09,260 --> 00:18:11,499 to this great hand-drawn map of 611 00:18:11,500 --> 00:18:13,199 the venues across town, and you can 612 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,739 really use that to plan your live 613 00:18:14,740 --> 00:18:16,079 music experience. 614 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,499 So I kind of described the creative 615 00:18:17,500 --> 00:18:18,919 strategy as a reverse mullet. 616 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:20,799 It's sort of, you know, party 617 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,119 in the front with all the great 618 00:18:22,120 --> 00:18:24,439 photos from, from David Brendan 619 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:25,440 hall and others, 620 00:18:26,300 --> 00:18:27,319 and a business in the back with all 621 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:28,619 the nuts and bolts that you need to 622 00:18:28,620 --> 00:18:30,029 really take advantage of this town. 623 00:18:30,030 --> 00:18:31,049 Yeah, well, as Mitch was saying 624 00:18:31,050 --> 00:18:32,469 there, David, most of the photos in 625 00:18:32,470 --> 00:18:34,589 this book belong to you, and 626 00:18:34,590 --> 00:18:35,829 you were talking a little bit about 627 00:18:35,830 --> 00:18:37,149 you, you were born and raised here, 628 00:18:37,150 --> 00:18:38,269 I believe you said, and so you've 629 00:18:38,270 --> 00:18:40,089 been on the scene for a long time. 630 00:18:40,090 --> 00:18:42,089 How many years of work did you, 631 00:18:42,090 --> 00:18:43,929 were you able to kind of amass into 632 00:18:43,930 --> 00:18:44,669 this book? 633 00:18:44,670 --> 00:18:47,129 Well, we wanted to 634 00:18:47,130 --> 00:18:49,029 pull from photos from my 635 00:18:49,030 --> 00:18:50,969 archive that was as current as 636 00:18:50,970 --> 00:18:52,429 we possibly could. 637 00:18:52,430 --> 00:18:54,149 Now, I have some photos that go, you 638 00:18:54,150 --> 00:18:56,069 know, back 15 years, but 639 00:18:56,070 --> 00:18:57,389 we tried to keep it within the last 640 00:18:57,390 --> 00:18:59,529 decade, and even then made 641 00:18:59,530 --> 00:19:01,369 some choices. Well, this is an old 642 00:19:01,370 --> 00:19:04,209 photo of this band or this artist. 643 00:19:04,210 --> 00:19:05,529 They have a different vibe or the 644 00:19:05,530 --> 00:19:06,629 band members have changed. 645 00:19:06,630 --> 00:19:08,759 Yeah. And those were cases where. 646 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,739 Really needed to reach out to other 647 00:19:10,740 --> 00:19:12,419 photographers or the artists and get 648 00:19:12,420 --> 00:19:13,519 updated photos. 649 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,239 And a goal of mine was to include as 650 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:17,319 many other photographers as possible 651 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,559 within the restrictions 652 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,619 of our modest 653 00:19:21,620 --> 00:19:24,139 budget, but also tried 654 00:19:24,140 --> 00:19:26,259 to be generous in that sense to 655 00:19:26,260 --> 00:19:28,179 as many perspectives 656 00:19:28,180 --> 00:19:29,679 as we could get. 657 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,519 And so about maybe to answer your 658 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,739 question, 10 years of 659 00:19:33,740 --> 00:19:35,739 coming through my archive and 660 00:19:35,740 --> 00:19:37,649 a lot of that thanks to 661 00:19:37,650 --> 00:19:39,769 working with the Austin Chronicle, 662 00:19:39,770 --> 00:19:41,249 who opened a lot of doors for me, so 663 00:19:41,250 --> 00:19:42,369 shout out to them. 664 00:19:42,370 --> 00:19:42,370 Absolutely. 665 00:19:42,371 --> 00:19:43,439 Absolutely. 666 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:44,639 Absolutely. And then KUTX. 667 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,779 NKUTX for 668 00:19:46,780 --> 00:19:47,679 everything. 669 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,499 Education on the 670 00:19:49,500 --> 00:19:51,359 music scene, commitment to 671 00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:52,360 it, 672 00:19:53,660 --> 00:19:55,759 to spotlighting that for 673 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:56,760 people every day. 674 00:19:58,060 --> 00:19:59,939 And I think that 675 00:19:59,940 --> 00:20:02,519 with the 676 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,479 choices that we made, 677 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,499 it was a difficult process. 678 00:20:07,500 --> 00:20:08,519 An editorial process. 679 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,219 Yeah, and the difficult 680 00:20:11,220 --> 00:20:13,119 editorial process and it came 681 00:20:13,120 --> 00:20:15,079 together in such a short 682 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:16,099 amount of time. 683 00:20:16,100 --> 00:20:18,219 I think we pulled all these photos 684 00:20:18,220 --> 00:20:20,059 in a matter of two and a half, 685 00:20:20,060 --> 00:20:21,499 three months. So it was quite the 686 00:20:21,500 --> 00:20:23,129 trip down memory lane. 687 00:20:23,130 --> 00:20:24,989 A perfectly imperfect process. 688 00:20:24,990 --> 00:20:26,609 I mean, no, no one book can do 689 00:20:26,610 --> 00:20:28,629 justice to the, to the broad, 690 00:20:28,630 --> 00:20:30,149 deep talent that's in this town. 691 00:20:30,150 --> 00:20:32,189 And so this is a start and we just, 692 00:20:32,190 --> 00:20:34,809 we're trying to give the readers a 693 00:20:34,810 --> 00:20:35,629 cross section. 694 00:20:35,630 --> 00:20:37,249 And that's why we, you know, we 695 00:20:37,250 --> 00:20:39,129 decided to use genres to sort 696 00:20:39,130 --> 00:20:42,229 of organize, organize 697 00:20:42,230 --> 00:20:44,169 discovery of artists, if you will. 698 00:20:44,170 --> 00:20:46,049 And we have country Americana, 699 00:20:46,050 --> 00:20:47,949 blues and soul, Latin and 700 00:20:47,950 --> 00:20:50,649 world, hip hop and R and jazz 701 00:20:50,650 --> 00:20:52,629 electronic and experimental 702 00:20:52,630 --> 00:20:54,529 There's so much to discover. 703 00:20:54,530 --> 00:20:56,089 I learned a lot, David learned a 704 00:20:56,090 --> 00:20:56,359 lot. 705 00:20:56,360 --> 00:20:57,879 Yeah that was that was one of the 706 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,139 fun things is that you know of 707 00:20:59,140 --> 00:21:01,039 course Mitch and I both have our 708 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:02,719 segments our niches in the scene 709 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:04,719 that we know but you know 710 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:06,799 I there was stuff like particularly 711 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,799 jazz that I don't 712 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,639 know a whole lot about and so 713 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,019 really learned about artists that 714 00:21:13,020 --> 00:21:14,959 haven't been on my radar the entire 715 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,479 time I've been in the seen and 716 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,739 connected with photographers also 717 00:21:18,740 --> 00:21:20,579 who were really involved in that 718 00:21:20,580 --> 00:21:22,579 and people that came in to consult 719 00:21:22,580 --> 00:21:24,319 with us and educate us. 720 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,939 On on some of these so it was that 721 00:21:25,940 --> 00:21:27,879 it was a process of discovery for us 722 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:29,799 and we hope that you know it's 723 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,419 uh... Vehicle for discovery for 724 00:21:31,420 --> 00:21:31,900 others and it's 725 00:21:31,901 --> 00:21:33,299 And did y'all expect it to be a 726 00:21:33,300 --> 00:21:34,399 source of discovery, because I 727 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:35,499 assume, like, you know, you write a 728 00:21:35,500 --> 00:21:36,959 book, you're perceived as, like an 729 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:38,759 authority on that topic, right, but 730 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,579 was that rewarding to be 731 00:21:40,580 --> 00:21:42,079 able to be enlightened as you're 732 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:43,409 going along in this process? 733 00:21:43,410 --> 00:21:44,909 Well, you know, it's interesting 734 00:21:44,910 --> 00:21:46,749 because we often talk about the 735 00:21:46,750 --> 00:21:48,609 Austin music scene as if it's 736 00:21:48,610 --> 00:21:50,309 some monolithic entity. 737 00:21:50,310 --> 00:21:51,829 And when you go down this path, what 738 00:21:51,830 --> 00:21:53,369 you quickly discover is this great 739 00:21:53,370 --> 00:21:55,149 insight that there is not just one 740 00:21:55,150 --> 00:21:57,149 scene. You know, that holds space 741 00:21:57,150 --> 00:21:59,089 for all of these great scenes, 742 00:21:59,090 --> 00:22:00,389 all these micro scenes. 743 00:22:00,390 --> 00:22:02,369 And so you can go to Africa night 744 00:22:02,370 --> 00:22:04,349 at the Sahara Lounge on, on 745 00:22:04,350 --> 00:22:06,589 Saturday night, or you can dip in 746 00:22:06,590 --> 00:22:08,689 to the white horse for Armadillo 747 00:22:08,690 --> 00:22:10,659 Road on a Sunday night, or You 748 00:22:10,660 --> 00:22:12,619 know, you can go to ABGB 749 00:22:12,620 --> 00:22:13,459 on Sunday afternoon. 750 00:22:13,460 --> 00:22:14,819 You can do all these great things in 751 00:22:14,820 --> 00:22:16,539 this town. Chickensh, bingo, at 752 00:22:16,540 --> 00:22:17,479 Little Longhorn, right? 753 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:18,319 Thank you for that. 754 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,039 It's all here. 755 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,479 Anyway, scenes are personal. 756 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,309 They are highly personal. 757 00:22:24,310 --> 00:22:26,689 Just to highlight something that you 758 00:22:26,690 --> 00:22:28,689 sort of did there inadvertently 759 00:22:28,690 --> 00:22:29,889 that the book is more than just 760 00:22:29,890 --> 00:22:30,909 artists. That's right. 761 00:22:30,910 --> 00:22:32,969 It's the venues, it's the festivals, 762 00:22:32,970 --> 00:22:35,089 it is the nonprofits that are 763 00:22:35,090 --> 00:22:36,749 giving back to the scene also. 764 00:22:36,750 --> 00:22:37,989 Absolutely. So all that is included 765 00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:40,429 in there as part of the guide. 766 00:22:40,430 --> 00:22:42,349 And then to backtrack a little bit, 767 00:22:42,350 --> 00:22:44,169 I mean, you were asking about, 768 00:22:44,170 --> 00:22:46,009 did we expect it to, you 769 00:22:46,010 --> 00:22:47,529 know... To learn and to be 770 00:22:47,530 --> 00:22:48,369 enlightened by that. 771 00:22:48,370 --> 00:22:50,389 Well, I think that you have 772 00:22:50,390 --> 00:22:52,209 to when you're creating a project 773 00:22:52,210 --> 00:22:53,069 like this. 774 00:22:53,070 --> 00:22:55,229 Or even when you're 775 00:22:55,230 --> 00:22:57,109 conversing with people about the 776 00:22:57,110 --> 00:22:58,449 scene or any music scene. 777 00:22:58,450 --> 00:22:59,809 And I was talking to Mitch about it. 778 00:22:59,810 --> 00:23:01,329 And I think one of the most exciting 779 00:23:01,330 --> 00:23:03,189 things about music in general 780 00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:04,969 is that one person cannot know 781 00:23:04,970 --> 00:23:05,829 everything. 782 00:23:05,830 --> 00:23:07,229 There is always something to 783 00:23:07,230 --> 00:23:08,989 discover. Even if someone comes to 784 00:23:08,990 --> 00:23:10,209 me and says, you've probably 785 00:23:10,210 --> 00:23:11,169 photographed everything. 786 00:23:11,170 --> 00:23:12,169 You've seen everything. I'm like, 787 00:23:12,170 --> 00:23:13,629 absolutely not. There's no way, try 788 00:23:13,630 --> 00:23:15,669 me. And so through this 789 00:23:15,670 --> 00:23:17,549 and even just all the time, you got 790 00:23:17,550 --> 00:23:19,009 so many chances to discover music. 791 00:23:19,010 --> 00:23:20,769 And that's part of the magic of it. 792 00:23:20,770 --> 00:23:21,829 And it was part of magic of this 793 00:23:21,830 --> 00:23:23,249 project. Can help please. 794 00:23:23,250 --> 00:23:24,729 Translates to other people picking 795 00:23:24,730 --> 00:23:26,929 up the book in Austin and beyond. 796 00:23:26,930 --> 00:23:28,369 I think there's reach beyond here, 797 00:23:28,370 --> 00:23:28,589 too 798 00:23:28,590 --> 00:23:29,509 Absolutely. 799 00:23:29,510 --> 00:23:31,389 It's a way to be 800 00:23:31,390 --> 00:23:32,769 welcomed into the Austin music scene 801 00:23:32,770 --> 00:23:34,429 and have a good knowledge. 802 00:23:34,430 --> 00:23:35,849 We got about two minutes left and 803 00:23:35,850 --> 00:23:37,569 you mentioned Ham earlier. 804 00:23:37,570 --> 00:23:38,949 Some proceeds from the sale of your 805 00:23:38,950 --> 00:23:40,129 book are benefiting Ham. 806 00:23:40,130 --> 00:23:41,029 Again, that's the Health Alliance 807 00:23:41,030 --> 00:23:42,469 for Austin musicians. 808 00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:44,289 How important was it to use this 809 00:23:44,290 --> 00:23:45,709 project as a way to give back to 810 00:23:45,710 --> 00:23:47,199 those musicians, to the community? 811 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,659 Super important. 812 00:23:48,660 --> 00:23:49,819 I mean, it's open enrollment right 813 00:23:49,820 --> 00:23:52,659 now for Ham. 814 00:23:52,660 --> 00:23:54,119 Most of the artists we interviewed 815 00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:55,479 and talked to, and we must have done 816 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:56,919 at least 70 interviews for this 817 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:57,920 project, 818 00:23:58,820 --> 00:24:00,999 they're not opposed to 819 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,099 change or growth. 820 00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:03,239 Austin has changed a lot over the 821 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:04,240 last decades. 822 00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:07,499 One common hope is that 823 00:24:07,500 --> 00:24:09,559 the scene remains affordable 824 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,459 for them to stay here 825 00:24:11,460 --> 00:24:13,479 and perform here and make their 826 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:14,519 art here. 827 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,519 Uh, we, we heard that 828 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,201 routinely and, you know, 829 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,559 You know, working with Ham made it 830 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,079 abundantly clear that we have to 831 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,279 support these artists in this 832 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,539 community if we want the scene to 833 00:24:27,540 --> 00:24:28,439 thrive. 834 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,319 And so I'd say that's another great 835 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,259 note. We have an impact section in 836 00:24:32,260 --> 00:24:33,339 the back of the book. 837 00:24:33,340 --> 00:24:34,219 We recognize all of the great 838 00:24:34,220 --> 00:24:36,259 nonprofits beyond Ham who 839 00:24:36,260 --> 00:24:37,579 are working to sustain the scene. 840 00:24:37,580 --> 00:24:39,199 And we give readers tips on how they 841 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,079 can amplify these nonprofits in 842 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,059 their. 843 00:24:42,060 --> 00:24:43,719 We have been chatting with David 844 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,539 Brendan Hall and Mitch Baranowski. 845 00:24:45,540 --> 00:24:46,479 They're a couple of the members of 846 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,119 the team behind the book. 847 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:49,619 Austin's music scene, your guide to 848 00:24:49,620 --> 00:24:51,619 the city's most iconic artists and 849 00:24:51,620 --> 00:24:52,419 venues. 850 00:24:52,420 --> 00:24:53,839 I did notice that it says first 851 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,919 edition and you mentioned, uh, 852 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,139 you know, that maybe there will be 853 00:24:57,140 --> 00:24:58,599 future ones. We only have about 30 854 00:24:58,600 --> 00:24:59,379 seconds left. 855 00:24:59,380 --> 00:25:00,739 Uh, but you said there's going to be 856 00:25:00,740 --> 00:25:02,639 like a little bit of supplementary, 857 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,569 uh, information available online. 858 00:25:04,570 --> 00:25:06,929 Yeah, we'll be launching an online 859 00:25:06,930 --> 00:25:08,809 companion component and 860 00:25:08,810 --> 00:25:10,489 stuff we couldn't fit in the book in 861 00:25:10,490 --> 00:25:11,909 the very limited amount of pages 862 00:25:11,910 --> 00:25:13,009 that we had. 863 00:25:13,010 --> 00:25:15,289 So hopefully many more photos, 864 00:25:15,290 --> 00:25:17,329 interviews, profiles, 865 00:25:17,330 --> 00:25:19,129 the scene will continue to change 866 00:25:19,130 --> 00:25:21,049 within a few months, within, 867 00:25:21,050 --> 00:25:22,909 it could be next 868 00:25:22,910 --> 00:25:24,749 week, another artist 869 00:25:24,750 --> 00:25:26,869 or band forms or another venue 870 00:25:26,870 --> 00:25:28,689 opens and then things will change 871 00:25:28,690 --> 00:25:30,609 and we can update that in real time. 872 00:25:32,790 --> 00:25:34,529 Reflects how this scene is 873 00:25:34,530 --> 00:25:35,469 ever-evolving. 874 00:25:35,470 --> 00:25:36,429 It's it's never gonna stop about 875 00:25:36,430 --> 00:25:37,669 Thank you for going out and 876 00:25:37,670 --> 00:25:38,789 supporting live music. 877 00:25:38,790 --> 00:25:39,790 Yeah. Keep going. 878 00:25:40,230 --> 00:25:41,889 This is David Brendan Hall and Mitch 879 00:25:41,890 --> 00:25:42,669 Baranowski. 880 00:25:42,670 --> 00:25:44,049 Thank you for being with us here on 881 00:25:44,050 --> 00:25:45,449 Austin Signal. 882 00:25:45,450 --> 00:25:46,449 Thank you. 883 00:25:46,450 --> 00:25:48,189 And thank you out there for being us 884 00:25:48,190 --> 00:25:50,309 on this Monday afternoon 885 00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:52,109 or whenever you're tuning in. 886 00:25:52,110 --> 00:25:54,009 This is Austin Signal, I'm your host 887 00:25:54,010 --> 00:25:55,209 Jerry Quijano. 888 00:25:55,210 --> 00:25:58,249 We have more information at kut.org 889 00:25:58,250 --> 00:25:59,370 slash signal.