Fresh Knight: I'm Fresh and you are now listening to the Breaks podcast.
Fresh Knight: These are highlights from our Saturday night hip-hop show
Fresh Knight: on KUTX 98.9 in Austin, Texas. My co-host Confucius Jones
Fresh Knight: and I are native Austinites and we love talking to
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Confucius Jones: It is 420.
Fresh Knight: It is 420.
Confucius Jones: Some people treat this
Confucius Jones: like Martin Luther
Confucius Jones: King Day, whatever
Confucius Jones: reason, but it
Confucius Jones: is a day that most celebrate
Confucius Jones: in terms of smoking
Confucius Jones: herbal
Confucius Jones: refreshments.
Confucius Jones: I like the way you said that.
Confucius Jones: There you go.
Confucius Jones: I don't really partake
Confucius Jones: in it.
Fresh Knight: It's not my vice.
Confucius Jones: Yeah, definitely
Confucius Jones: not my vice.
Confucius Jones: But weed culture
Confucius Jones: has been very prevalent
Confucius Jones: throughout hip hop for a long
Confucius Jones: time.
Confucius Jones: So my question to
Confucius Jones: you is how important
Confucius Jones: do you think weed culture
Confucius Jones: is to rap.
Fresh Knight: I don't think it's as
Fresh Knight: important as people
Fresh Knight: may think.
Fresh Knight: I don't think like.
Confucius Jones: Yeah, a lot of rappers you would
Confucius Jones: think would with smoke
Confucius Jones: don't like 50%
Confucius Jones: doesn't smoke straight
Confucius Jones: through dense smoke.
Fresh Knight: You know, like in the.
Fresh Knight: I mean, I've heard him talk
Fresh Knight: about it, but I don't know that
Fresh Knight: he really does.
Confucius Jones: Yeah, I see them talking
Confucius Jones: about it and doing
Confucius Jones: convincing that whole song
Confucius Jones: all the time. And he doesn't
Confucius Jones: smoke.
Fresh Knight: Yeah. So, like, I
Fresh Knight: think J.Cole got one
Fresh Knight: of the one of them
Fresh Knight: songs on one of those
Fresh Knight: revenge of the dreamers
Fresh Knight: mixtapes where like,
Fresh Knight: it's supposed to be like
Fresh Knight: a circle of them
Fresh Knight: smoking in.
Fresh Knight: And I just like I don't
Fresh Knight: I don't I don't know
Fresh Knight: that he does.
Fresh Knight: Why is he on this
Fresh Knight: song?
Confucius Jones: But yeah. Do you think
Confucius Jones: it's important to the
Confucius Jones: culture?
Fresh Knight: I don't think like I
Fresh Knight: said, I don't think it's as
Fresh Knight: important.
Fresh Knight: As people think it is.
Fresh Knight: Like if no rapper talked
Fresh Knight: about it, I don't think anybody
Fresh Knight: would like feel away
Fresh Knight: or feel like feel left
Fresh Knight: out.
Confucius Jones: I think it's
Confucius Jones: importance to it.
Confucius Jones: It's kind of like
Confucius Jones: surface level. That
Confucius Jones: is not because I
Confucius Jones: know a lot of the pioneers
Confucius Jones: of hip hop smoked,
Confucius Jones: but they really put in their
Confucius Jones: music like that.
Confucius Jones: It was just me. But
Confucius Jones: I think once you
Confucius Jones: get to the chronic
Confucius Jones: is when now. And
Confucius Jones: suddenly you get
Confucius Jones: the chronic, you get Cypress
Confucius Jones: Hill, you get
Confucius Jones: ghetto boys down here,
Confucius Jones: you get all these different
Confucius Jones: artists who start openly
Confucius Jones: talking about it,
Confucius Jones: and then you yourself
Confucius Jones: be able to both going to
Confucius Jones: go down.
Fresh Knight: On a hoodie, Mac.
Confucius Jones: And hoodie. Mac.
Fresh Knight: You Wu-Tang.
Fresh Knight: Oh yeah, my old man.
Fresh Knight: And apparently I once
Fresh Knight: heard that myth.
Fresh Knight: It was a it was what
Fresh Knight: they call marijuana.
Fresh Knight: It was upon a time,
Fresh Knight: which I don't know if that's
Fresh Knight: really true, but they
Fresh Knight: were method man was
Fresh Knight: has been very prevalent
Fresh Knight: about.
Confucius Jones: Well, yeah. He has.
Fresh Knight: His indulgence in him
Fresh Knight: and Ray maybe.
Confucius Jones: Red.
Fresh Knight: Man got a whole movie
Fresh Knight: about.
Confucius Jones: It. Yeah, I know,
Confucius Jones: so I can't
Confucius Jones: say that it's important
Confucius Jones: to the culture, but
Confucius Jones: I do think it was definitely
Confucius Jones: if you want to go down the
Confucius Jones: rabbit hole of the
Confucius Jones: important tenets of
Confucius Jones: hip hop, whether be breakdancing,
Confucius Jones: deejaying, emceeing,
Confucius Jones: I think the smoking
Confucius Jones: in there probably
Confucius Jones: secret fourth.
Fresh Knight: Yeah, I would say a long
Fresh Knight: form of like, it's a
Fresh Knight: pillar of jazz.
Confucius Jones: Yeah.
Fresh Knight: I don't know. That is just
Fresh Knight: all important.
Fresh Knight: I will say, like you
Fresh Knight: say, once you get into
Fresh Knight: what they like, the 90s.
Confucius Jones: Yeah.
Fresh Knight: It becomes more
Fresh Knight: prevalent in music.
Fresh Knight: And I think that has
Fresh Knight: helped it become more
Fresh Knight: normalized.
Fresh Knight: I think rap helped it
Fresh Knight: kind of seep more into
Fresh Knight: pop culture. Granted,
Fresh Knight: you already had movies
Fresh Knight: like Cheech and Chong
Fresh Knight: and Dazed and Confused,
Fresh Knight: but I think rap helped
Fresh Knight: to become like it was
Fresh Knight: a thing that, like,
Fresh Knight: everybody enjoys.
Confucius Jones: It helped kind of
Confucius Jones: create the rock
Confucius Jones: star lifestyle
Confucius Jones: image of rap as
Confucius Jones: well, because
Confucius Jones: writing rap before,
Confucius Jones: you know, rock was
Confucius Jones: the dominant genre
Confucius Jones: and that was
Confucius Jones: synonymous with like
Confucius Jones: hard drugs or heavy
Confucius Jones: drug and partying.
Confucius Jones: So I think the weed
Confucius Jones: culture helped make
Confucius Jones: rap look more
Confucius Jones: cooler, especially to
Confucius Jones: like suburban white key,
Confucius Jones: like, oh, look at them do
Confucius Jones: the smoking the marijuana
Confucius Jones: in your drinking.
Confucius Jones: It looks so cool.
Confucius Jones: I don't think it's like necessary.
Confucius Jones: So much like it was
Confucius Jones: back then, because
Confucius Jones: I think people also
Confucius Jones: just started really talking about
Confucius Jones: it more because of the chronic.
Confucius Jones: I'm not saying they weren't talking
Confucius Jones: about it before, but really
Confucius Jones: just like shot it
Confucius Jones: to the day, like
Confucius Jones: now it's really cool. We can start
Confucius Jones: putting, you know, the logos
Confucius Jones: on them.
Fresh Knight: Yeah, I think The Chronic
Fresh Knight: made it just cool to
Fresh Knight: talk about like,
Fresh Knight: yeah, I smoked Snoop
Fresh Knight: smoke, Dre smoke I
Fresh Knight: smoke. I mean.
Confucius Jones: You know what this look
Confucius Jones: like even like you said with
Confucius Jones: like Wu-Tang Method
Confucius Jones: Man, the song is
Confucius Jones: more like coding
Confucius Jones: Hollywood. Just straight up saying
Confucius Jones: like, no, we're smoking. Yeah.
Fresh Knight: Straight smoking.
Fresh Knight: This is what we smoke
Fresh Knight: and this is what we
Fresh Knight: are smoking on.
Fresh Knight: And I think it made it
Fresh Knight: a lot more acceptable
Fresh Knight: and cooler for people
Fresh Knight: just to say, I well,
Fresh Knight: I'm gonna talk about it today
Fresh Knight: talking about it. And you know
Fresh Knight: why they had no issue with
Fresh Knight: what they were saying?
Fresh Knight: Because now you think
Fresh Knight: now that I sit here and
Fresh Knight: think about it, that
Fresh Knight: was not the prevailing
Fresh Knight: issue of that album.
Confucius Jones: Did Lois Tucker had
Confucius Jones: an issue with it?
Confucius Jones: What do you think
Confucius Jones: of smoking?
Confucius Jones: What is the first
Confucius Jones: album ever song
Confucius Jones: that comes to mind?
Fresh Knight: Man, the first album
Fresh Knight: or song?
Confucius Jones: I can say mine.
Confucius Jones: What do you think of yours?
Fresh Knight: Go ahead.
Confucius Jones: Devin the dude. Just
Confucius Jones: trying to leave.
Confucius Jones: Mainly because I haven't
Confucius Jones: done the field research
Confucius Jones: on it.
Confucius Jones: The great album.
Confucius Jones: It's still a great album.
Fresh Knight: For some reason, Cypress
Fresh Knight: Hill comes to mind.
Confucius Jones: Just the oddest,
Confucius Jones: album or song.
Fresh Knight: I can't tell you the name
Fresh Knight: of the song. I could.
Confucius Jones: Just kill a.
Fresh Knight: Man. Not that one, but
Fresh Knight: they have a whole song
Fresh Knight: about.
Fresh Knight: Yeah, several whole songs
Fresh Knight: about smoking weed.
Fresh Knight: I think the, for some
Fresh Knight: reason, I cannot see.
Confucius Jones: I thought you'd say, like, doggy
Confucius Jones: style.
Fresh Knight: I don't want to be too
Fresh Knight: cliche and say, like,
Fresh Knight: the chronic pops into
Fresh Knight: my head. I mean.
Confucius Jones: That's a fair.
Fresh Knight: One. But because album
Fresh Knight: like, when I looked at
Fresh Knight: the show.
Confucius Jones: Notes, you said, who do
Confucius Jones: you make out of left in your
Confucius Jones: life?
Fresh Knight: I never would have been
Fresh Knight: lying.
Confucius Jones: To anybody listening who did back.
Fresh Knight: I never would have been
Fresh Knight: lying. I definitely would
Fresh Knight: have been lying. No.
Fresh Knight: Cause, like, even when I looked
Fresh Knight: at the show notes, I
Fresh Knight: immediately thought,
Fresh Knight: all right, we're going to need,
Fresh Knight: like, a weed smoking
Fresh Knight: song or artists that
Fresh Knight: are known for this.
Fresh Knight: In my mind, I immediately
Fresh Knight: went to Dre and Snoop.
Confucius Jones: I mean.
Fresh Knight: They're the my my
Fresh Knight: immediately went.
Confucius Jones: To shoot.
Fresh Knight: And was like, yo, we need
Fresh Knight: we need a Snoop song.
Confucius Jones: The next episode,
Confucius Jones: the song is a Great
Confucius Jones: Smoking record.
Fresh Knight: It is.
Confucius Jones: It is like just
Confucius Jones: that dude magic.
Confucius Jones: Just pillars of.
Fresh Knight: Smoke. And with Nate.
Fresh Knight: No. And it was like
Fresh Knight: the tour de they went
Fresh Knight: on with that album was
Fresh Knight: Up in Smoke.
Confucius Jones: Up in Smoke as a
Confucius Jones: DVD.
Fresh Knight: Great, great DVD
Fresh Knight: great. My cousin
Fresh Knight: Audrey had shout out
Fresh Knight: to RG Massey.
Deezie Brown: RG.
Fresh Knight: Exposes to a lot that
Fresh Knight: we probably shouldn't have
Fresh Knight: been exposed.
Confucius Jones: All of his out of the
Confucius Jones: duct tape CPS case
Confucius Jones: as well.
Deezie Brown: Oh yeah yeah yeah.
Deezie Brown: You didn't.
Fresh Knight: Or you didn't have kids
Fresh Knight: or you didn't have.
Deezie Brown: Kids or she watching
Deezie Brown: y'all.
Fresh Knight: No, I was I watching
Fresh Knight: I'll.
Confucius Jones: Just completely go
Confucius Jones: up this upper.
Deezie Brown: Level. Is there a lot.
Confucius Jones: Going on that even
Confucius Jones: up the Up Smoke DVD
Confucius Jones: is like the counter
Confucius Jones: backstage DVD
Confucius Jones: backstage. It was
Confucius Jones: in this, you know,
Confucius Jones: dudes up in smoke
Confucius Jones: was just.
Fresh Knight: It was everything you
Fresh Knight: could think about that
Fresh Knight: those gentlemen would
Fresh Knight: be doing. They did.
Confucius Jones: It. You could be. You could buy
Confucius Jones: that DVD at a music
Confucius Jones: store. You could buy it at the
Confucius Jones: store.
Confucius Jones: But.
Deezie Brown: Yeah, yeah.
Fresh Knight: Yeah.
Confucius Jones: Yeah, yeah, I
Confucius Jones: think, I think I
Confucius Jones: think more like a
Confucius Jones: currency.
Fresh Knight: I think I definitely
Fresh Knight: think of currency. I definitely.
Confucius Jones: Think of with.
Fresh Knight: Smoked is a name.
Confucius Jones: It is in the name
Confucius Jones: that actually don't mean anything.
Confucius Jones: No big deal.
Fresh Knight: Very true, very true.
Confucius Jones: None of the big three do
Confucius Jones: it. I mean, like,
Confucius Jones: talk about it like the
Confucius Jones: Drake. Cole.
Fresh Knight: Yeah, I think a
Fresh Knight: schoolboy schoolboy.
Fresh Knight: Mac Miller.
Confucius Jones: Mac Miller early.
Confucius Jones: Mac Miller.
Fresh Knight: Very early and very
Fresh Knight: early.
Confucius Jones: But like I said, I
Confucius Jones: don't think we go to like
Confucius Jones: super import.
Confucius Jones: I just I hate sometimes
Confucius Jones: though, I feel like newer
Confucius Jones: rappers feel like they have
Confucius Jones: to like, glorify.
Confucius Jones: I do it more than they
Confucius Jones: normally do to try to,
Confucius Jones: you know.
Fresh Knight: Appease to the
Fresh Knight: audience.
Confucius Jones: But if you don't do
Confucius Jones: it, it's fine. Like nobody,
Confucius Jones: you know?
Fresh Knight: Yeah, I don't think
Fresh Knight: that's why I don't think
Fresh Knight: it's as important. Like
Fresh Knight: if you don't talk about
Fresh Knight: it or if you don't do
Fresh Knight: it, I don't think like
Fresh Knight: it's this, this issue.
Fresh Knight: Although when I say I
Fresh Knight: don't do it, people do look
Fresh Knight: at me kind of crazy,
Fresh Knight: like, bro, you don't
Fresh Knight: smoke? No, that's not my
Fresh Knight: voice. I probably
Fresh Knight: because I say it's not my
Fresh Knight: voice. And I don't think a lot
Fresh Knight: of people know what that
Fresh Knight: means, actually, that.
Confucius Jones: I think that,
Confucius Jones: I brought this type of
Confucius Jones: couple of courses for 20
Confucius Jones: years just because
Confucius Jones: I thought about how
Confucius Jones: much is ingrained
Confucius Jones: into just the culture
Confucius Jones: itself. And it's like I said,
Confucius Jones: it's not even so much
Confucius Jones: that you have to do
Confucius Jones: it to be popular,
Confucius Jones: but it is.
Confucius Jones: It's almost understood
Confucius Jones: that.
Confucius Jones: Partaking in it
Confucius Jones: makes you look cool. Like
Confucius Jones: I said, Felicity has a
Confucius Jones: whole song called High All
Confucius Jones: the Time and he doesn't
Confucius Jones: smoke, so.
Confucius Jones: But he understood at least
Confucius Jones: that the people
Confucius Jones: that listen to this album.
Fresh Knight: They probably smoke.
Confucius Jones: So let me make
Confucius Jones: something for him.
Fresh Knight: I get it like you do
Fresh Knight: it to appease to the
Fresh Knight: audience. Like you
Fresh Knight: said, I don't think it's
Fresh Knight: super important, but
Fresh Knight: I'd be like I say, rap
Fresh Knight: has helped make it
Fresh Knight: a lot more normal in
Fresh Knight: just everyday culture.
Fresh Knight: Like it's not as taboo
Fresh Knight: as it was before or
Fresh Knight: taboo at all.
Fresh Knight: And when you get into
Fresh Knight: rap, I think some
Fresh Knight: rappers do feel like,
Fresh Knight: well, I got to kind of talk
Fresh Knight: about it or I have to
Fresh Knight: kind of do it, you
Fresh Knight: know? But I mean, if
Fresh Knight: you do, you do it. You don't,
Fresh Knight: you don't. I don't think
Fresh Knight: it really matters.
Fresh Knight: I don't think, Wayne.
Confucius Jones: I will say Wayne in
Confucius Jones: his adlib, it's the
Confucius Jones: lighter flick.
Fresh Knight: Yeah.
Fresh Knight: Like you say, I think
Fresh Knight: it's a pillar. Ajith.
Confucius Jones: Yeah, it's something
Confucius Jones: that's talked about
Confucius Jones: and embraced. But
Confucius Jones: you don't have to necessarily
Confucius Jones: do it yourself too.
Fresh Knight: But you don't have to be a
Fresh Knight: very prevalent smoker
Fresh Knight: either. Like you can say
Fresh Knight: you did it once in a
Fresh Knight: song and then like
Fresh Knight: you, good. As long as
Fresh Knight: the song was good. I
Fresh Knight: think people ragweed
Fresh Knight: it takes.
Confucius Jones: So yes, this last
Confucius Jones: time we did a show,
Confucius Jones: the Drake Versus
Confucius Jones: Everybody,
Confucius Jones: show is still
Confucius Jones: ongoing, and we hit
Confucius Jones: report live on new
Confucius Jones: details.
Confucius Jones: I don't have any details,
Confucius Jones: but.
Fresh Knight: I mean, a lot happened
Fresh Knight: over the over last
Fresh Knight: weekend.
Confucius Jones: Like Drake dropped
Confucius Jones: dropping. Give me.
Fresh Knight: 50. Drop me, give me
Fresh Knight: 50.
Confucius Jones: Response to Kendrick.
Fresh Knight: Rick Ross dropped a
Fresh Knight: champagne.
Confucius Jones: Moment.
Fresh Knight: For champagne moments.
Fresh Knight: Yeah, yeah.
Confucius Jones: You know what I like about Rick
Confucius Jones: Ross? Did songs.
Confucius Jones: He'll find something
Confucius Jones: to call you and call you
Confucius Jones: that throughout the entirety
Confucius Jones: of the song.
Fresh Knight: Entire song.
Confucius Jones: And with this and
Confucius Jones: this point with Dre,
Confucius Jones: he called him White boy the
Confucius Jones: entire.
Fresh Knight: So I thought it was
Fresh Knight: hilarious.
Deezie Brown: Yeah.
Fresh Knight: I thought it was hilarious.
Confucius Jones: Rick Ross was the
Confucius Jones: unforeseen
Confucius Jones: character in this
Confucius Jones: movie.
Fresh Knight: I thought it was
Fresh Knight: well.
Confucius Jones: Granted when Drake
Confucius Jones: dropped dropping Give Me
Confucius Jones: 5,090% of
Confucius Jones: the song was aimed at Kendrick.
Confucius Jones: We save some balls
Confucius Jones: to the side for Rick Ross.
Confucius Jones: Which what do you say by Rick Ross
Confucius Jones: about.
Fresh Knight: Many of you jumping in.
Fresh Knight: Is you almost.
Confucius Jones: 50. Yeah. Almost 50.
Fresh Knight: Yeah. And I take your
Fresh Knight: your grill and cover
Fresh Knight: up like something.
Confucius Jones: Yeah. Because he
Confucius Jones: brought Rick Ross,
Confucius Jones: his girlfriend, to his.
Confucius Jones: What they show. Yeah.
Confucius Jones: To be petty.
Fresh Knight: A lot of people got stories
Fresh Knight: in it.
Confucius Jones: Yeah. No, this
Confucius Jones: isn't about the weekend.
Fresh Knight: He said something about John
Fresh Knight: Murray.
Deezie Brown: And of all people.
Confucius Jones: Okay? They he they
Confucius Jones: were dating. Yeah.
Confucius Jones: They. Woman.
Fresh Knight: He says I'm about metro.
Confucius Jones: There's still a lot
Confucius Jones: of still five little
Confucius Jones: areas to.
Fresh Knight: I'm sorry in
Fresh Knight: the wagering.
Confucius Jones: He could.
Fresh Knight: Do in the way Drake is
Fresh Knight: being party to a
Fresh Knight: major.
Confucius Jones: Drum.
Fresh Knight: Scene in a marching
Fresh Knight: band out of,
Fresh Knight: a strip club and
Fresh Knight: having a mariachi band
Fresh Knight: play a satellite is.
Fresh Knight: Look, Drake is a he's
Fresh Knight: a character, man.
Confucius Jones: Drake is petty.
Confucius Jones: But, yeah. So he
Confucius Jones: Drake drop dropping.
Confucius Jones: Give me 50.
Confucius Jones: Rick Ross responded
Confucius Jones: a couple hours after
Confucius Jones: that. Once again, I forgot
Confucius Jones: how petty Rick Ross
Confucius Jones: is. He'd been going
Confucius Jones: around calling Drake Bieber,
Confucius Jones: drifting for the
Confucius Jones: last few days.
Fresh Knight: Claim that Drake got a
Fresh Knight: nose job done.
Confucius Jones: Like his father, which
Confucius Jones: I don't like. The person
Confucius Jones: I don't look like Drake, I don't
Confucius Jones: know.
Fresh Knight: I looked at it, it was
Fresh Knight: like, I think this
Fresh Knight: picture he used is kind
Fresh Knight: of Photoshop, but all
Fresh Knight: right before.
Fresh Knight: And he also claimed that
Fresh Knight: Drake had cosmetic
Fresh Knight: surgery back.
Deezie Brown: Back.
Fresh Knight: And now he no longer
Fresh Knight: has it. That's why he's
Fresh Knight: walking around with like,
Fresh Knight: the the bulletproof
Fresh Knight: vest and, motocross
Fresh Knight: gear on at his show.
Confucius Jones: Now, granted, Drake
Confucius Jones: is reactive.
Confucius Jones: I'm not saying that because
Confucius Jones: I am a fan of Drake,
Confucius Jones: but the truth is,
Confucius Jones: at the time people
Confucius Jones: say little things to him.
Confucius Jones: Now, I'm not saying that Drake's
Confucius Jones: not doing stuff behind the
Confucius Jones: scenes or hasn't done
Confucius Jones: loosely disses himself,
Confucius Jones: but when Drake starts
Confucius Jones: getting into his,
Confucius Jones: you know, name calling
Confucius Jones: thing, somebody said
Confucius Jones: something.
Fresh Knight: Yeah, he's very, very
Fresh Knight: he goes on the defensive
Fresh Knight: when somebody aims
Fresh Knight: something straight at
Fresh Knight: him.
Confucius Jones: And it didn't help that
Confucius Jones: the number one song
Confucius Jones: in the country for three
Confucius Jones: weeks straight is like
Confucius Jones: that song that
Confucius Jones: Kendrick is dissing
Confucius Jones: Drake on. Fun fact
Confucius Jones: the last time a rap
Confucius Jones: song last that long
Confucius Jones: at number one on the
Confucius Jones: Billboard Hot 100
Confucius Jones: was got played by
Confucius Jones: Drake in.
Confucius Jones: 2018.
Fresh Knight: The universe has a
Fresh Knight: sense.
Confucius Jones: Of humor, severe humor.
Confucius Jones: So why is everybody
Confucius Jones: coming to Drake?
Fresh Knight: Good question.
Deezie Brown: Man.
Fresh Knight: Good question.
Confucius Jones: That's everybody coming
Confucius Jones: at the kid from
Confucius Jones: Toronto.
Fresh Knight: If the rumor is to be
Fresh Knight: true that he has some
Fresh Knight: type of stake in
Fresh Knight: these artists is
Fresh Knight: music.
Confucius Jones: That's I thought
Confucius Jones: that that was debunked.
Confucius Jones: Then he's got a
Confucius Jones: community, no doubt, at this
Confucius Jones: point.
Deezie Brown: Yeah.
Fresh Knight: See, I ain't.
Confucius Jones: Got no return of Michael Jackson
Confucius Jones: with Sony. We're not doing
Confucius Jones: that.
Fresh Knight: I didn't know that. I didn't
Fresh Knight: I didn't see the update
Fresh Knight: on the tweet.
Fresh Knight: But if that's to be
Fresh Knight: true, the I understand
Fresh Knight: it. But if that's been debunked
Fresh Knight: with that being debunked,
Fresh Knight: then I just
Fresh Knight: think Drake isn't as
Fresh Knight: genuine and nice of a
Fresh Knight: guy as he probably
Fresh Knight: portrays himself out
Fresh Knight: to be.
Fresh Knight: And now it's just all
Fresh Knight: coming out.
Confucius Jones: Like I said, I fully
Confucius Jones: believe.
Confucius Jones: Okay. So I think,
Confucius Jones: like we said last week,
Confucius Jones: thing with him and Kendrick
Confucius Jones: is personal but also
Confucius Jones: sport. Yeah, I
Confucius Jones: think it's personal in the sense
Confucius Jones: where they just wouldn't speak
Confucius Jones: to each other if they were the same
Confucius Jones: room.
Confucius Jones: But it's not bad if
Confucius Jones: they start fighting.
Fresh Knight: Yeah. I don't think that's
Fresh Knight: happening with any of
Fresh Knight: this.
Confucius Jones: Yeah. No, I also
Confucius Jones: think that that
Confucius Jones: Pusha T thing really
Confucius Jones: put a chink in Drake's
Confucius Jones: armor. Granted, it
Confucius Jones: was already kind of late anyway,
Confucius Jones: because Drake didn't come
Confucius Jones: up like most rap.
Confucius Jones: He did come out of the, you know,
Confucius Jones: the hood or so
Confucius Jones: he, you know, he come from the grant
Confucius Jones: he was on to grants as
Confucius Jones: a kid. So people
Confucius Jones: already kind of what'd
Confucius Jones: you.
Fresh Knight: Know, he didn't come from
Fresh Knight: the bottom but had a song
Fresh Knight: called Started From the Bottom.
Fresh Knight: And yeah, everybody
Fresh Knight: was super critical of
Fresh Knight: that song.
Confucius Jones: I still don't like that.
Fresh Knight: So I let's do it.
Fresh Knight: If we come on.
Confucius Jones: If it's. Well, for the album
Confucius Jones: by itself.
Confucius Jones: So, you know, it's
Confucius Jones: that chick dumb. But
Confucius Jones: also with the Ross
Confucius Jones: thing, Ross is
Confucius Jones: just, you know,
Confucius Jones: he's lost his people.
Confucius Jones: Although, like somebody said,
Confucius Jones: he went in there
Confucius Jones: for Meek Mill like that.
Deezie Brown: Yeah.
Fresh Knight: Where was he for meek
Fresh Knight: Hito Meek to give him
Fresh Knight: some space.
Confucius Jones: They showed.
Deezie Brown: Me.
Fresh Knight: So I mean, if I was
Fresh Knight: him, I would just give my dog
Fresh Knight: some space. Like,
Fresh Knight: what.
Confucius Jones: If you said up Nikki
Confucius Jones: too?
Confucius Jones: It's like it's
Confucius Jones: at all.
Fresh Knight: I never trust in Nikki.
Confucius Jones: I can't say she's
Confucius Jones: got it, man.
Confucius Jones: But the wicked
Confucius Jones: thing is weird, though.
Confucius Jones: They have a weird relationship.
Fresh Knight: I was about this. I was going
Fresh Knight: to say. Is it weird?
Fresh Knight: Like, I don't know what.
Confucius Jones: Like, what do you.
Confucius Jones: They're like, they call
Confucius Jones: each other brothers.
Confucius Jones: And you know, The
Confucius Jones: Weeknd is praising
Confucius Jones: Drake for helping
Confucius Jones: find him.
Confucius Jones: Then the next year, they're
Confucius Jones: beefing again.
Fresh Knight: Very passive aggressive
Fresh Knight: between those two.
Confucius Jones: Is all have to do.
Confucius Jones: Who has custody of
Confucius Jones: party like I don't
Confucius Jones: know.
Deezie Brown: What is.
Confucius Jones: What is going on.
Fresh Knight: Well I say it's very
Fresh Knight: passive aggressive
Fresh Knight: because like you say, a
Fresh Knight: one year drinking
Fresh Knight: weekend will sing like
Fresh Knight: they're cool and they
Fresh Knight: seem like they communicate
Fresh Knight: or have talked recently,
Fresh Knight: or take a picture if
Fresh Knight: they see each other
Fresh Knight: out at the same place
Fresh Knight: in Toronto.
Fresh Knight: But like the weekend
Fresh Knight: will have an issue
Fresh Knight: with Party Next Door,
Fresh Knight: who he knows is signed
Fresh Knight: with Drake. And then,
Fresh Knight: like now we're here
Fresh Knight: and there seems to be
Fresh Knight: tension between them.
Fresh Knight: So it's like, yo, what?
Fresh Knight: What is going.
Confucius Jones: On with you think that
Confucius Jones: my, I would be
Confucius Jones: surprised that that is
Confucius Jones: the wild card, that
Confucius Jones: it is that Drake is
Confucius Jones: has and we can have a
Confucius Jones: hard time get along because
Confucius Jones: the party is fighting.
Confucius Jones: We can't stand each
Confucius Jones: other.
Deezie Brown: I could.
Fresh Knight: See that.
Fresh Knight: I could see, I had to
Fresh Knight: see. At this point, I
Fresh Knight: just see them being frenemies
Fresh Knight: like I see them. If I
Fresh Knight: see Drake in the
Fresh Knight: weekend, like if we're
Fresh Knight: in the same room together
Fresh Knight: and party is not
Fresh Knight: there. Yeah, bro, I'll
Fresh Knight: talk to you.
Fresh Knight: I'll talk to you.
Fresh Knight: I will dap it up.
Fresh Knight: We'll take a picture.
Fresh Knight: We'll get some drinks together.
Fresh Knight: Cool. If party is
Fresh Knight: there. I'm not saying
Fresh Knight: a word to neither one
Fresh Knight: of your holiday parties.
Confucius Jones: Potentially. You know
Confucius Jones: I don't. We still don't like
Confucius Jones: each other, right? You just over
Confucius Jones: here gallivanting around
Confucius Jones: town with him.
Deezie Brown: Like you.
Confucius Jones: We. We don't like
Confucius Jones: each other.
Confucius Jones: To act stupid.
Confucius Jones: That's what somebody said. They'll be
Confucius Jones: doing this on be the
Confucius Jones: best. They don't
Confucius Jones: know what.
Confucius Jones: This they do.
Confucius Jones: Oh, but no, I
Confucius Jones: wasn't getting, like we
Confucius Jones: say last week. This is
Confucius Jones: something that Drake has
Confucius Jones: to go against it.
Confucius Jones: Kendrick to me is
Confucius Jones: Drake's final boss
Confucius Jones: because he there's
Confucius Jones: not another artist
Confucius Jones: with more impact.
Confucius Jones: There's not another artist
Confucius Jones: that that shifted
Confucius Jones: the culture in the
Confucius Jones: time that they've been out.
Confucius Jones: I can't think anybody bigger.
Confucius Jones: I know Drake tried in
Confucius Jones: this song, said, you know,
Confucius Jones: scissors bigger than
Confucius Jones: Kendrick. Travis is
Confucius Jones: bigger than Kendrick.
Fresh Knight: But 21 is bigger than
Fresh Knight: Kendrick.
Confucius Jones: Yeah, but Drake
Confucius Jones: going against him would do.
Confucius Jones: But Kendrick. Yeah.
Confucius Jones: Because Kendrick Scott can
Confucius Jones: get you on hits and
Confucius Jones: on lyricism.
Deezie Brown: Yeah.
Confucius Jones: Like I say you know
Confucius Jones: Travis is up there too.
Confucius Jones: Drake can get past rascally
Confucius Jones: Travis can't rap.
Fresh Knight: Well.
Confucius Jones: You know, he just makes, you
Confucius Jones: know, big loud
Confucius Jones: anthems.
Confucius Jones: 21 thing I haven't
Confucius Jones: neither one of them. What they
Confucius Jones: should be 21.
Confucius Jones: Got he got a club
Confucius Jones: out there and we got bodies.
Confucius Jones: Let us see. Yo!
Confucius Jones: Get you out.
Confucius Jones: Let me get you out of here. I'd
Confucius Jones: like them.
Fresh Knight: And I think they urge,
Fresh Knight: I think him in 21 a
Fresh Knight: genuine friend.
Confucius Jones: So I just thought
Confucius Jones: him a future. Would you.
Fresh Knight: This is very true.
Fresh Knight: This is very true. I guess
Fresh Knight: nobody's really friends
Fresh Knight: in hip hop.
Fresh Knight: Granted, unless you're
Fresh Knight: Jake old, I don't know,
Fresh Knight: I don't know.
Confucius Jones: I do know you
Confucius Jones: tiptoeing around food, rating
Confucius Jones: it really good.
Fresh Knight: I know you don't like
Fresh Knight: Joe Budden, but I
Fresh Knight: can't agree. I don't
Fresh Knight: think he really wants
Fresh Knight: to do that with future
Fresh Knight: because I think he still
Fresh Knight: wants to be friends.
Fresh Knight: Future. I think he
Fresh Knight: still wants to be friends
Fresh Knight: with future.
Confucius Jones: I think he's been so mad.
Confucius Jones: Grown man. Say that about
Confucius Jones: me.
Confucius Jones: That's a nicely worded
Confucius Jones: letter. Let me talk about
Confucius Jones: me like I'm no six year
Confucius Jones: old.
Fresh Knight: I think he still wants
Fresh Knight: to make music with
Fresh Knight: him. And oh, I don't
Fresh Knight: think he really, I
Fresh Knight: don't I don't think the issue
Fresh Knight: between him is that
Fresh Knight: serious. I think
Fresh Knight: future is really only.
Fresh Knight: Doing this because of
Fresh Knight: Metro, because Drake
Fresh Knight: and Metro Boomin have
Fresh Knight: an issue. And I think features
Fresh Knight: like, what is my real
Fresh Knight: dog over here?
Fresh Knight: The real homie.
Fresh Knight: So I'm I'm going to
Fresh Knight: stick with him.
Confucius Jones: We'll see.
Confucius Jones: I also think Greg
Confucius Jones: knows who to play with.
Confucius Jones: That's saying that Drake
Confucius Jones: is scared everybody.
Fresh Knight: But you think you Draymond
Fresh Knight: Draymond know who to
Fresh Knight: do all.
Confucius Jones: You do you know do
Confucius Jones: the Europeans.
Fresh Knight: You do that with raw.
Deezie Brown: Disney.
Confucius Jones: Makes sounds like Drake
Confucius Jones: is scared of anybody.
Confucius Jones: And I think his crew is
Confucius Jones: pretty tight.
Confucius Jones: But after he knows
Confucius Jones: the certain people
Confucius Jones: you can't. It's been a clumsy
Confucius Jones: throwing bottle. The team like
Confucius Jones: Chris Brown is going to
Confucius Jones: get really bad.
Deezie Brown: So that.
Fresh Knight: Came across my timeline
Fresh Knight: the other day.
Confucius Jones: About him throwing bottles.
Fresh Knight: And I was like, wait, I'm
Fresh Knight: having to.
Deezie Brown: Get.
Confucius Jones: The funniest part about the whole
Confucius Jones: thing is that Tony
Confucius Jones: was there, I got it.
Confucius Jones: You don't Parker, you play for
Confucius Jones: Spurs.
Fresh Knight: So this was random.
Confucius Jones: Is that what you're trying to
Confucius Jones: himself? Get a little time
Confucius Jones: on the off season?
Confucius Jones: Is it been a bottle
Confucius Jones: war throwing contest?
Confucius Jones: I don't like I said. We'll see.
Confucius Jones: Kendrick has not responded
Confucius Jones: yet.
Fresh Knight: I heard a theory.
Fresh Knight: I don't know how true
Fresh Knight: this is.
Confucius Jones: This is Joe Budden theory.
Fresh Knight: No no no no no no no. This
Fresh Knight: is this has nothing to
Fresh Knight: do with Joe Budden. I
Fresh Knight: was I checking
Fresh Knight: notifications on TikTok
Fresh Knight: and when as soon as you
Fresh Knight: open app before you
Fresh Knight: pages in.
Fresh Knight: I don't know who this gentleman
Fresh Knight: was, but what he said.
Confucius Jones: This random guy on.
Fresh Knight: TikTok, he said he was
Fresh Knight: down with PPG, Lane
Fresh Knight: said he was down with,
Fresh Knight: I don't know me, he work
Fresh Knight: for if you do street
Fresh Knight: promo, I don't know.
Fresh Knight: But his theory made
Fresh Knight: sense to me in the
Fresh Knight: sense that I don't
Fresh Knight: think Kendrick is
Fresh Knight: going to respond as
Fresh Knight: long as Rick Ross is
Fresh Knight: on a hundred and
Fresh Knight: continuously going at
Fresh Knight: Drake at the Kendrick
Fresh Knight: feels like, well, I
Fresh Knight: don't want to do that
Fresh Knight: and get stepped on by
Fresh Knight: some Nia Ross is say
Fresh Knight: it. Or if Rose decides
Fresh Knight: to put out another album.
Fresh Knight: So I'm gonna let this
Fresh Knight: do what it do.
Fresh Knight: And then then I'm
Fresh Knight: coming because I'm
Fresh Knight: still coming.
Confucius Jones: I can see that.
Confucius Jones: I can definitely see that.
Confucius Jones: Also, my theory on
Confucius Jones: that is, is my
Confucius Jones: final point is that
Confucius Jones: he doesn't have to say anything.
Confucius Jones: The song, that one cuts
Confucius Jones: my response in every
Confucius Jones: way.
Confucius Jones: When this dies down,
Confucius Jones: I'll say something which?
Fresh Knight: Which is? I told
Fresh Knight: somebody on Twitter,
Fresh Knight: they're like, when you
Fresh Knight: can make a yo, this
Fresh Knight: record, a hit song
Fresh Knight: ain't. That's another win.
Fresh Knight: That's just some that's even
Fresh Knight: more of a win than
Fresh Knight: just having a regular
Fresh Knight: disregard, because people
Fresh Knight: now have to be force
Fresh Knight: to hear y'all forget
Fresh Knight: that back to back was
Fresh Knight: and Grammy nomination
Fresh Knight: talk.
Confucius Jones: Yeah was
Confucius Jones: unbeknownst to Drake.
Confucius Jones: But yeah like I said,
Confucius Jones: it's the number one song
Confucius Jones: in the country and
Confucius Jones: it's just a verse
Confucius Jones: on somebody else's song.
Confucius Jones: So from Kendrick
Confucius Jones: for he's like.
Fresh Knight: And he probably is sitting
Fresh Knight: back like, we've been
Fresh Knight: number one for three weeks straight.
Fresh Knight: I don't really have to
Fresh Knight: say anything. Yeah. He
Fresh Knight: has to continue to
Fresh Knight: hear me speak to him.
Confucius Jones: Yeah. He's basically
Confucius Jones: created by a guy like Drake
Confucius Jones: has been playing catch up
Confucius Jones: to me.
Confucius Jones: My verse is at the
Confucius Jones: top in the most talked
Confucius Jones: about. You have to
Confucius Jones: put out a whole song
Confucius Jones: to try to keep this thing
Confucius Jones: going.
Fresh Knight: Yeah, I don't need the
Fresh Knight: attention. I'm cool.
Fresh Knight: I don't even have an album coming.
Confucius Jones: Exactly. So he's
Confucius Jones: like, I should go
Confucius Jones: out, but you know.
Fresh Knight: Stick around for more
Fresh Knight: after this quick break.
Confucius Jones: Hip hop facts, time,
Confucius Jones: facts about the culture
Confucius Jones: and they can be facts minute.
Confucius Jones: When we've done facts,
Confucius Jones: hip hop facts, we've done
Confucius Jones: R&B facts.
Fresh Knight: All culture encompassing.
Confucius Jones: You want to go first there.
Confucius Jones: Yeah. Go ahead.
Fresh Knight: Yeah I'll go first.
Fresh Knight: Ray Parker junior, the
Fresh Knight: man who behind the
Fresh Knight: Ghostbusters theme
Fresh Knight: song and major hit.
Confucius Jones: Make fun of him. But he wrote
Confucius Jones: and produced that song
Confucius Jones: for his claim.
Fresh Knight: He did a lot more than
Fresh Knight: just Ghostbusters two.
Fresh Knight: Exactly. Apparently he
Fresh Knight: has a writing credit
Fresh Knight: on two changes a them
Fresh Knight: strippers.
Fresh Knight: How two Chainz in the
Fresh Knight: song says Mr.
Fresh Knight: Telephone Man.
Fresh Knight: There's something
Fresh Knight: wrong with my line.
Confucius Jones: He produced.
Fresh Knight: It. When I dial my
Fresh Knight: baby's number.
Fresh Knight: I get a click every
Fresh Knight: time. Which, as we
Fresh Knight: know, Mr. Telephone
Fresh Knight: Man has a new edition.
Fresh Knight: Single mom that Ray
Fresh Knight: Parker Jr wrote and
Fresh Knight: produced.
Confucius Jones: I thought that was a
Confucius Jones: phrase I love. Corrected.
Confucius Jones: He was there, like manager.
Fresh Knight: Or it is that he wrote
Fresh Knight: the song for years
Fresh Knight: before even giving it
Fresh Knight: to New Edition.
Fresh Knight: So yeah, shout out to
Fresh Knight: Ray Parker, junior man.
Confucius Jones: He said to Ray Parker.
Confucius Jones: Junior. Yeah.
Confucius Jones: Written by Ray Parker
Confucius Jones: junior. It was
Confucius Jones: originally recorded by
Confucius Jones: Junior Tucker, but
Confucius Jones: yes, I think it was
Confucius Jones: the more prevailing, like 6070s
Confucius Jones: and 80s was somebody
Confucius Jones: who put out a song. Like two
Confucius Jones: years later, somebody would come
Confucius Jones: in to blow up your
Confucius Jones: song. That ain't good
Confucius Jones: for y'all, start
Confucius Jones: doing it.
Confucius Jones: Because I was like, well, if
Confucius Jones: I do change, go,
Confucius Jones: come on. Like, well, this
Confucius Jones: will all come out
Confucius Jones: like Otis Redding,
Confucius Jones: the Sam Cooke version,
Confucius Jones: like, wait a minute.
Confucius Jones: But. All right.
Confucius Jones: Yesterday was Silk
Confucius Jones: Nights birthday. Yes,
Confucius Jones: yes. You interpret the nine
Confucius Jones: years old
Confucius Jones: controversial figure in
Confucius Jones: hip hop, but you
Confucius Jones: can't take away from fact
Confucius Jones: historically.
Fresh Knight: Yeah, you can't take his
Fresh Knight: historical place in
Fresh Knight: within hip hop.
Confucius Jones: Yeah, exactly.
Confucius Jones: He's still sitting
Confucius Jones: in a prison cell right now,
Confucius Jones: but hip hop fact
Confucius Jones: for sure. Ignite is
Confucius Jones: that at one point in
Confucius Jones: time, he played for the Los
Confucius Jones: Angeles Rams in
Confucius Jones: 1987 during the
Confucius Jones: players strike
Confucius Jones: because he, didn't
Confucius Jones: really get drafted.
Confucius Jones: He ended up, you know, practice
Confucius Jones: squads. But he got playing
Confucius Jones: time in 87 with
Confucius Jones: the players. Strike happened,
Confucius Jones: but he only played
Confucius Jones: three games for,
Confucius Jones: you know, getting cut and having
Confucius Jones: to move on but didn't
Confucius Jones: run at the same time as
Confucius Jones: when he started doing
Confucius Jones: bodyguard work for
Confucius Jones: Bobby Brown, which got
Confucius Jones: him into the music.
Fresh Knight: Shout out to Marion
Fresh Knight: show ignite man.
Fresh Knight: He's a he's a legend.
Fresh Knight: I'll give him that.
Fresh Knight: I can't like I like we
Fresh Knight: say you can't take
Fresh Knight: away his place within
Fresh Knight: the pantheon of hip
Fresh Knight: hop. Yeah.
Confucius Jones: He just, you know
Confucius Jones: unlucky.
Deezie Brown: Very unlucky.
Fresh Knight: My second fact T.I.,
Fresh Knight: the King of the South,
Fresh Knight: self-proclaimed.
Fresh Knight: And the first time he
Fresh Knight: proclaimed it.
Fresh Knight: The song was featured on
Fresh Knight: the shaft soundtrack
Fresh Knight: Two Glock Nines
Fresh Knight: featuring Beanie Sigel.
Fresh Knight: It was very.
Confucius Jones: I feel like I've heard, but
Confucius Jones: I've heard it a long time.
Fresh Knight: He proclaimed himself
Fresh Knight: to be the King of the
Fresh Knight: South.
Fresh Knight: So shout out to T.
Fresh Knight: I mean, the only
Fresh Knight: person that challenged that
Fresh Knight: was a little flip.
Fresh Knight: The anybody else really
Fresh Knight: cared?
Confucius Jones: Hey, man, you know,
Confucius Jones: it's interesting how stuff
Confucius Jones: like that starts in the most
Confucius Jones: random places, like
Confucius Jones: the first collaboration
Confucius Jones: with Snoop and Dre is
Confucius Jones: on a movie soundtrack.
Confucius Jones: Deep cover, you
Confucius Jones: know, deep covered it okay,
Confucius Jones: in theaters, but
Confucius Jones: the song is diffused
Confucius Jones: anyway.
Confucius Jones: Also celebrating
Confucius Jones: yesterday was
Confucius Jones: Illmatic.
Fresh Knight: Yeah. 30th
Fresh Knight: anniversary.
Confucius Jones: Death anniversary, NAS
Confucius Jones: the debut album,
Confucius Jones: some considered one
Confucius Jones: of the greatest albums
Confucius Jones: in hip hop history. Something
Confucius Jones: is the best.
Confucius Jones: Do I think it's the best
Confucius Jones: album of all time? And hip
Confucius Jones: hop is.
Fresh Knight: The greatest hip?
Fresh Knight: I don't, I don't because
Fresh Knight: it's it's I'll give
Fresh Knight: it. It's one of them.
Fresh Knight: But the greatest like
Fresh Knight: now I.
Confucius Jones: Don't know what they'll do.
Confucius Jones: So the album covers
Confucius Jones: NAS as a child.
Confucius Jones: If you notice it's kind
Confucius Jones: of tearing it which
Confucius Jones: looking at it you don't
Confucius Jones: know if that was added
Confucius Jones: for the effect of
Confucius Jones: decay, it was added as
Confucius Jones: genuine.
Confucius Jones: Apparently the terror
Confucius Jones: is genuine.
Confucius Jones: According to law professor,
Confucius Jones: he said, I quote.
Confucius Jones: I remember going to
Confucius Jones: Nisa House and we
Confucius Jones: are chilling. And he's
Confucius Jones: like, yo, this is
Confucius Jones: the flick I'ma use
Confucius Jones: for the album cover.
Confucius Jones: He had it under a piece
Confucius Jones: of glass, and I guess
Confucius Jones: when he went to grab it,
Confucius Jones: the glass must have
Confucius Jones: stuck right there. And
Confucius Jones: so that's where the rip came
Confucius Jones: from.
Fresh Knight: Got you got.
Deezie Brown: You got you got that.
Fresh Knight: Interesting fact. Interesting
Fresh Knight: fact. Because to be
Fresh Knight: honest with you, until people
Fresh Knight: pointed out that there was a
Fresh Knight: terror, I didn't know a
Fresh Knight: thing.
Deezie Brown: Because.
Confucius Jones: That was already
Confucius Jones: grainy anyway.
Fresh Knight: Yeah, I didn't like I
Fresh Knight: didn't notice the terror.
Confucius Jones: So, I mean, would
Confucius Jones: that would you argue that
Confucius Jones: when started putting
Confucius Jones: your baby picture on
Confucius Jones: the cover album for Grace?
Fresh Knight: Because Wu-Tang the.
Deezie Brown: Wu-Tang. Are you that
Deezie Brown: fan?
Confucius Jones: No, no, not
Confucius Jones: Ghostface and
Confucius Jones: Raekwon. Okay, I
Confucius Jones: get it.
Fresh Knight: Yeah, me, Wu-Tang
Fresh Knight: adjacent
Fresh Knight: Ghostface and Raekwon
Fresh Knight: say it'd be.
Deezie Brown: A.
Fresh Knight: Biggie. Biggie was
Fresh Knight: dragging his these
Fresh Knight: men.
Confucius Jones: What's crazy is that
Confucius Jones: from what I understand,
Confucius Jones: Raekwon and Ghost
Confucius Jones: would even get close with
Confucius Jones: biggie. They just made
Confucius Jones: him a couple titles like,
Confucius Jones: yeah, we got to feed them like,
Confucius Jones: yo, what?
Deezie Brown: I think.
Fresh Knight: You know, man, I don't
Fresh Knight: know if you want.
Confucius Jones: To close to now. That's what
Confucius Jones: it was.
Fresh Knight: I don't know if it was the.
Fresh Knight: Well, for the first time, I
Fresh Knight: would like a baby picture.
Fresh Knight: I don't.
Deezie Brown: Think so.
Fresh Knight: And he wasn't really a baby.
Deezie Brown: Like six.
Deezie Brown: He had a baby.
Confucius Jones: It's.
Fresh Knight: Well, I guess I.
Confucius Jones: Guess this is him.
Confucius Jones: Biggie. And then
Confucius Jones: Wayne started it.
Confucius Jones: Wendy Cole has done
Confucius Jones: it called Jacko.
Deezie Brown: Yeah.
Confucius Jones: Was that one with
Confucius Jones: him as a kid?
Confucius Jones: Look at love.
Fresh Knight: That. Hey, is that how
Fresh Knight: the child is?
Confucius Jones: A lot more.
Fresh Knight: Child baby.
Deezie Brown: Pictures on the cover?
Confucius Jones: Because people do it just
Confucius Jones: that, just to be doing it.
Confucius Jones: There's a lot more. But
Confucius Jones: I think that was the first
Confucius Jones: one.
Deezie Brown: I'll tell you.
Fresh Knight: I'll give it to NAS. He
Fresh Knight: kicked that trend off.
Fresh Knight: He kicked Adrian off
Fresh Knight: in here. But I can't name anybody
Fresh Knight: before him. They did
Fresh Knight: it.
Confucius Jones: Yeah. Me neither.
Confucius Jones: So that would.
Deezie Brown: Be.
Fresh Knight: My third and final
Fresh Knight: fact.
Fresh Knight: Sky zoo rabbit out of
Fresh Knight: Brooklyn, New York.
Fresh Knight: I recently found out
Fresh Knight: and I actually saw it as
Fresh Knight: episode two at
Fresh Knight: 19. He was on 106
Fresh Knight: Parks Freestyle
Fresh Knight: Friday. Oh, yeah.
Fresh Knight: And he said it was
Fresh Knight: just two weeks before
Fresh Knight: GM announced his Rough
Fresh Knight: Rider signing, which I
Fresh Knight: remember the whole video.
Fresh Knight: They came out after
Fresh Knight: you announced. And in
Fresh Knight: hindsight, in retrospect,
Fresh Knight: Skyes was the big
Fresh Knight: artist.
Confucius Jones: Oh, God. Yeah.
Confucius Jones: I can't deal with you.
Deezie Brown: That, I don't know.
Fresh Knight: It's guys who say they still
Fresh Knight: talk to Gene. They have
Fresh Knight: a really good relationship.
Fresh Knight: But he did say about
Fresh Knight: putting him on no album?
Fresh Knight: No.
Confucius Jones: I feel like Rough
Confucius Jones: Riders had a reunion
Confucius Jones: concert tour not
Confucius Jones: too long ago and Gene was
Confucius Jones: there.
Fresh Knight: I feel like they did
Fresh Knight: too, but I don't remember
Fresh Knight: if Gene was there or
Fresh Knight: not.
Fresh Knight: I wouldn't be shocked
Fresh Knight: if he was probably
Fresh Knight: needed to check. I don't
Fresh Knight: know. I mean, I do not
Fresh Knight: count them in pockets.
Confucius Jones: I would say, like, I don't
Confucius Jones: know what he got going on.
Confucius Jones: My final fact
Confucius Jones: Keeping Up with Illmatic,
Confucius Jones: celebrating one of
Confucius Jones: the greatest hip
Confucius Jones: hop albums of all
Confucius Jones: time, NAS recorded
Confucius Jones: New York State of Mind
Confucius Jones: in one take.
Confucius Jones: One of the better songs
Confucius Jones: on the album, of
Confucius Jones: course.
Fresh Knight: As he really is rapping.
Confucius Jones: And also he was a kid
Confucius Jones: too. He's like.
Deezie Brown: 18.
Deezie Brown: Yeah.
Confucius Jones: Yeah. DJ for me, I
Confucius Jones: said, NAS did that
Confucius Jones: in one take. One
Confucius Jones: take. Not so when.
Confucius Jones: Just one take over
Confucius Jones: there.
Confucius Jones: But also MC speak
Confucius Jones: to NAS. It mentioned
Confucius Jones: that his favorite
Confucius Jones: sessions for yo matic
Confucius Jones: with Premier.
Confucius Jones: So I think their rapport
Confucius Jones: kind of helped.
Fresh Knight: Make a sort of picture
Fresh Knight: day post then and now
Fresh Knight: on Instagram, and you
Fresh Knight: got people saying they wanted
Fresh Knight: a NAS and Preme album.
Fresh Knight: I wouldn't be mad at
Fresh Knight: that. And I heard
Fresh Knight: people say, I mean,
Fresh Knight: this happened too late.
Fresh Knight: What?
Fresh Knight: What are you talking about?
Fresh Knight: Y'all wouldn't. Y'all
Fresh Knight: heard NAS and Preme
Fresh Knight: doing music today.
Fresh Knight: Yeah, I would jump right on
Fresh Knight: it and B, listen to it.
Fresh Knight: Cut that out. Oh, I
Fresh Knight: don't want to hear that.
Fresh Knight: It's too late for this
Fresh Knight: now, They making
Fresh Knight: the second Beetlejuice
Fresh Knight: movie? Nothing's too
Fresh Knight: late.
Confucius Jones: Yeah. Facts never
Confucius Jones: die. They make another Beetlejuice.
Fresh Knight: Not just too late,
Fresh Knight: man. I want you there.
Confucius Jones: Well, yeah, and I said
Confucius Jones: premiere was the best
Confucius Jones: producer he work with.
Confucius Jones: None of them. I heard.
Fresh Knight: That.
Confucius Jones: Before. He's saying
Confucius Jones: that basically saying. And
Confucius Jones: he quote that, you know,
Confucius Jones: he went to trial type of
Confucius Jones: sounds, getting the right
Confucius Jones: techniques, whatever
Confucius Jones: took he listen.
Confucius Jones: All my ideas listen.
Confucius Jones: And I listen to his. And
Confucius Jones: it worked smooth.
Confucius Jones: It was like me and him.
Confucius Jones: We just didn't want to rush
Confucius Jones: into nothing fast.
Confucius Jones: We want to make sure it was
Confucius Jones: just right.
Fresh Knight: So shout out to pre
Fresh Knight: man big H-Town.
Confucius Jones: Yeah that but that
Confucius Jones: also which is ironically
Confucius Jones: produced song got New
Confucius Jones: York state of mind. I
Confucius Jones: would argue New York State
Confucius Jones: of Mind was the biggest
Confucius Jones: hip hop in New York. Right.
Confucius Jones: Going to tell you about our
Confucius Jones: state of mind came
Confucius Jones: out.
Fresh Knight: Yeah, like New York
Fresh Knight: and the like the quote
Fresh Knight: unquote anthem.
Confucius Jones: Then I played Dog Brand
Confucius Jones: New York and out there in the
Confucius Jones: park.
Fresh Knight: And they weren't playing
Fresh Knight: Cameron and Jay-Z's
Fresh Knight: joint. They were not
Fresh Knight: like they did.
Confucius Jones: You like that? Maybe,
Confucius Jones: flexes of the world
Confucius Jones: and these.
Deezie Brown: I give you.
Fresh Knight: I would say the gyro
Fresh Knight: joint New York.
Fresh Knight: Yeah.
Deezie Brown: It was pretty. Me, I
Deezie Brown: was pretty, I.
Confucius Jones: Guess it was, but it
Confucius Jones: just got it. The
Confucius Jones: momentum got sucked
Confucius Jones: out of 150, started
Confucius Jones: going everybody.
Confucius Jones: He sucked the momentum
Confucius Jones: out of that.
Fresh Knight: So he did.
Fresh Knight: He did. I still remember
Fresh Knight: Jadakiss on stage.
Fresh Knight: Camera on stage at the
Fresh Knight: versus saying telling
Fresh Knight: Jadakiss you don't got
Fresh Knight: a a New York record in
Fresh Knight: it. I don't want to
Fresh Knight: drop that era.
Confucius Jones: I thought about that versus
Confucius Jones: the other day. I said, boy, that,
Confucius Jones: that, that boy.
Fresh Knight: People won't stop sharing.
Confucius Jones: I never.
Deezie Brown: Thought.
Confucius Jones: I never thought in
Confucius Jones: a million years.
Fresh Knight: It did not go the way
Fresh Knight: I thought it would go.
Confucius Jones: I thought Dipset was
Confucius Jones: gonna pull that.
Fresh Knight: I thought I was like,
Fresh Knight: oh, a and they and
Fresh Knight: they in Manhattan,
Fresh Knight: they in the garden.
Fresh Knight: I'm like, oh yeah,
Fresh Knight: they definitely got it.
Fresh Knight: And then they started
Fresh Knight: doing they then they
Fresh Knight: started doing they favorite
Fresh Knight: songs.
Confucius Jones: But it's like they
Confucius Jones: see somebody say,
Confucius Jones: you seen Jimmy Cam
Confucius Jones: together.
Deezie Brown: Since.
Fresh Knight: You haven't.
Deezie Brown: Really.
Confucius Jones: Have unpopular
Confucius Jones: opinion time with fresh
Confucius Jones: himself. Yes.
Fresh Knight: So with this whole
Fresh Knight: Kendrick Lamar Drake
Fresh Knight: 20 VH1 thing going on,
Fresh Knight: Drake against the world.
Confucius Jones: He said he didn't
Confucius Jones: say it.
Confucius Jones: What is this, 2031?
Deezie Brown: And is this.
Fresh Knight: As, Drake against the
Fresh Knight: world versus everybody
Fresh Knight: is confused say
Fresh Knight: earlier it has a
Fresh Knight: a lot of people doing
Fresh Knight: think pieces via
Fresh Knight: Twitter and the
Fresh Knight: internet, which I
Fresh Knight: think is kind of annoying
Fresh Knight: at some time. Some are
Fresh Knight: good takes, some are
Fresh Knight: not an OG in
Fresh Knight: hip hop.
Fresh Knight: Had a take which I
Fresh Knight: don't know where he got
Fresh Knight: this from, but Chuck D
Fresh Knight: earlier in the week or
Fresh Knight: I think like over the
Fresh Knight: weekend, he tweeted,
Fresh Knight: rap in hip hop didn't
Fresh Knight: form from this battle
Fresh Knight: culture he formed from
Fresh Knight: party dance culture.
Fresh Knight: The battle culture was
Fresh Knight: a mutation alongside
Fresh Knight: moving the crowd.
Fresh Knight: And AMC Never wanted
Fresh Knight: you to be a wallflower.
Fresh Knight: They wanted movement
Fresh Knight: or the DJ was shut you
Fresh Knight: off. Harlem, Bronx
Fresh Knight: Brooklyn wanted a
Fresh Knight: better time because
Fresh Knight: NYC was delivering
Fresh Knight: B.S.
Fresh Knight: the battle Disney was
Fresh Knight: a site evolution.
Fresh Knight: Tumor started benign,
Fresh Knight: then ignorance made it
Fresh Knight: malignant in the
Fresh Knight: 1990s.
Fresh Knight: Revisionist history on
Fresh Knight: culture too often is
Fresh Knight: measured by scattered
Fresh Knight: exceptions as opposed
Fresh Knight: to the massive
Fresh Knight: documented rule.
Fresh Knight: So my unpopular
Fresh Knight: opinion is today, OGs
Fresh Knight: aren't always right.
Deezie Brown: Yeah.
Fresh Knight: Because I don't know
Fresh Knight: what Chuck D is
Fresh Knight: talking about.
Fresh Knight: And I don't know where
Fresh Knight: he got that.
Fresh Knight: People are saying that
Fresh Knight: hip hop was birthed
Fresh Knight: out of battle
Fresh Knight: rap culture.
Fresh Knight: Who is saying that?
Fresh Knight: And whoever is saying
Fresh Knight: that they are completely
Fresh Knight: wrong. Yes, hip
Fresh Knight: hop stems and it was
Fresh Knight: birthed out of the
Fresh Knight: park jams and the
Fresh Knight: Black parties that
Fresh Knight: were being thrown.
Fresh Knight: Yes, that is where it
Fresh Knight: comes from.
Fresh Knight: But to sit here and
Fresh Knight: say that
Fresh Knight: two emcees going back
Fresh Knight: and forth with each other
Fresh Knight: or battling period
Fresh Knight: does not have or has
Fresh Knight: not had a place in hip
Fresh Knight: hop is entirely wrong.
Fresh Knight: Yes, yes, I know y'all
Fresh Knight: OGs out there and you
Fresh Knight: older hip hip hop
Fresh Knight: heads are going to
Fresh Knight: listen to this or hear
Fresh Knight: me say that and be
Fresh Knight: like, how dare you go
Fresh Knight: against Chuck D?
Fresh Knight: Because that's how other people
Fresh Knight: are saying.
Confucius Jones: I did go get you.
Confucius Jones: What is see, Jesus.
Deezie Brown: I was.
Fresh Knight: Here because I saw
Fresh Knight: other people say, well,
Fresh Knight: he the OG, so we going
Fresh Knight: to read his word, knowing
Fresh Knight: that because this isn't
Fresh Knight: right, this is not
Fresh Knight: right, this is wrong.
Fresh Knight: And just because he is
Fresh Knight: Chuck D does not mean
Fresh Knight: he can't not be wrong.
Fresh Knight: And just because
Fresh Knight: another elder
Fresh Knight: statesman says something
Fresh Knight: does not mean we just
Fresh Knight: have to get in line
Fresh Knight: and follow it.
Fresh Knight: Because yes, battle
Fresh Knight: Batali battle culture
Fresh Knight: has been a part of hip
Fresh Knight: hop. As I replied to
Fresh Knight: him and said, well,
Fresh Knight: has Batali never
Fresh Knight: existed in rap?
Fresh Knight: Like did DJs not
Fresh Knight: battle one another?
Fresh Knight: That emcees not battle
Fresh Knight: one another? Back in
Fresh Knight: the day, we know for a
Fresh Knight: fact B-Boy crews
Fresh Knight: battled each other.
Fresh Knight: It was highly depicted
Fresh Knight: in Breaking and in
Fresh Knight: Beat Street, which I
Fresh Knight: would argue B Street
Fresh Knight: is the better hip hop. Moving
Fresh Knight: in.
Confucius Jones: Breaking. He said that
Confucius Jones: I think the last
Confucius Jones: week.
Fresh Knight: The bullet
Fresh Knight: was just goofy, like I
Fresh Knight: said. But anyway, that's
Fresh Knight: beyond a fact. That's
Fresh Knight: beyond my point.
Fresh Knight: Like, I just looked at
Fresh Knight: that and watched
Fresh Knight: people blindly go with
Fresh Knight: it because it was
Fresh Knight: Chuck D and you just
Fresh Knight: couldn't go, it's
Fresh Knight: Chuck D, you just can't
Fresh Knight: go against what?
Fresh Knight: And where was Chuck D
Fresh Knight: with Ice Cube in
Fresh Knight: common? Where was
Fresh Knight: Chuck D when Ice Cube
Fresh Knight: released No Vaseline?
Fresh Knight: Where was Chuck D when
Fresh Knight: L.L. cool J was going
Fresh Knight: at everybody that he
Fresh Knight: could do.
Confucius Jones: The original 20 versus
Confucius Jones: one?
Fresh Knight: Like, where was Chuck
Fresh Knight: needed to bring up
Fresh Knight: badly? He had nothing
Fresh Knight: to say in those, I
Fresh Knight: think elder statesman
Fresh Knight: OGs in hip hop.
Fresh Knight: Look at Tupac and
Fresh Knight: Biggie and they take
Fresh Knight: that and run with it.
Fresh Knight: This is why you don't need to
Fresh Knight: be beefing in rap.
Fresh Knight: This is why we don't need battling
Fresh Knight: in rap. What?
Fresh Knight: That was its own thing
Fresh Knight: in itself, that got
Fresh Knight: way out of hand that
Fresh Knight: the media continued to
Fresh Knight: perpetuate.
Fresh Knight: And then did it once.
Fresh Knight: Think about what the
Fresh Knight: consequences could be
Fresh Knight: from two individuals
Fresh Knight: surrounded by individuals
Fresh Knight: coming out of certain
Fresh Knight: environments.
Fresh Knight: But that isn't every
Fresh Knight: beef. Because Chuck
Fresh Knight: didn't say nothing about Jay-Z
Fresh Knight: and us, he said people
Fresh Knight: when Jay-Z had prodigy
Fresh Knight: up there on this summer jam
Fresh Knight: screen dressed like
Fresh Knight: Michael Jackson and
Fresh Knight: Jay-Z called him a ballerina.
Fresh Knight: He didn't say a word
Fresh Knight: where it was Chuck needed
Fresh Knight: to say and isn't. You
Fresh Knight: just don't just don't
Fresh Knight: have no place in hip
Fresh Knight: hop. What now?
Fresh Knight: We don't have a place in
Fresh Knight: hip hop when this has
Fresh Knight: happened.
Fresh Knight: No, Chuck D didn't
Fresh Knight: battle against
Fresh Knight: anybody.
Fresh Knight: But you can't say that
Fresh Knight: battling has not been
Fresh Knight: a part of the culture,
Fresh Knight: and it is not good for
Fresh Knight: Coach Batali.
Fresh Knight: And this record is the
Fresh Knight: reason why we have KRS
Fresh Knight: one, because nobody
Fresh Knight: was talking about KRS
Fresh Knight: one before he
Fresh Knight: responded to
Fresh Knight: share with the bridges
Fresh Knight: over nobody.
Fresh Knight: He wasn't he was not
Fresh Knight: popping like that.
Fresh Knight: And many people have
Fresh Knight: said this. KRS has
Fresh Knight: even said this.
Fresh Knight: So to sit there and
Fresh Knight: say they like yo, we
Fresh Knight: just it just don't
Fresh Knight: have no play. It was a
Fresh Knight: mutation that started
Fresh Knight: but not. And it became
Fresh Knight: malignant like bro,
Fresh Knight: stop it, stop it man.
Fresh Knight: Stop it. Because any
Fresh Knight: other point in hip
Fresh Knight: hop, you didn't have
Fresh Knight: any of this negativity
Fresh Knight: to say.
Fresh Knight: And using
Fresh Knight: biggie and two pugs
Fresh Knight: dev as your point of
Fresh Knight: reference of why it
Fresh Knight: should not happen.
Fresh Knight: I just I just don't
Fresh Knight: agree with. It was a
Fresh Knight: very though with two
Fresh Knight: very tragic deaths,
Fresh Knight: two young gentlemen,
Fresh Knight: Black gentlemen who
Fresh Knight: died way before their
Fresh Knight: time. Biggie was like,
Fresh Knight: what, 24?
Fresh Knight: Yeah, like,
Fresh Knight: come on, man, every
Fresh Knight: rat beef doesn't go
Fresh Knight: into that. Two MCs
Fresh Knight: going at it because
Fresh Knight: they feel like they
Fresh Knight: both are the best in
Fresh Knight: Drake and Kendrick.
Fresh Knight: Bro. This is not going
Fresh Knight: to end up like that.
Fresh Knight: And if your mind
Fresh Knight: continues to go
Fresh Knight: and think that it is
Fresh Knight: going to end like that,
Fresh Knight: I just think it's something
Fresh Knight: wrong with you because
Fresh Knight: everything isn't that
Fresh Knight: serious, man.
Fresh Knight: Like Cole and Kendrick.
Fresh Knight: Was it that series and
Fresh Knight: you people were sitting up
Fresh Knight: saying, well, you
Fresh Knight: know, you can't you
Fresh Knight: know, you can't rap
Fresh Knight: beef without being disrespectful.
Fresh Knight: Oh yeah. You can't because
Fresh Knight: it's not about that.
Fresh Knight: This isn't personal.
Fresh Knight: This is Kendrick
Fresh Knight: saying no.
Fresh Knight: Y'all been sitting up
Fresh Knight: there potent. Y'all
Fresh Knight: chest out beating on
Fresh Knight: it and saying it this
Fresh Knight: this big three when I
Fresh Knight: don't agree with that. It's
Fresh Knight: just me and Dennis,
Fresh Knight: the rest of y'all. And
Fresh Knight: now you can have Drake
Fresh Knight: saying, but I'm way
Fresh Knight: bigger than you, bro.
Fresh Knight: Like, you could call
Fresh Knight: yourself Prince all
Fresh Knight: you want, but
Fresh Knight: I'm still me and you
Fresh Knight: can't get past me.
Fresh Knight: And you're not sitting at
Fresh Knight: this mountaintop like
Fresh Knight: I am.
Confucius Jones: You know, you. There's nobody
Confucius Jones: we, like you said before,
Confucius Jones: there's Drake and there's everybody
Confucius Jones: else in terms of numbers.
Fresh Knight: Yeah. So this isn't
Fresh Knight: that, man. This is not
Fresh Knight: going to end up in it.
Fresh Knight: And I just think
Fresh Knight: Chuck D is wrong.
Fresh Knight: Like I don't know
Fresh Knight: where he got his information
Fresh Knight: from because I haven't
Fresh Knight: seen anyone say that
Fresh Knight: hip hop was birthed
Fresh Knight: out of battle culture.
Fresh Knight: People have say that
Fresh Knight: battling is a part of
Fresh Knight: the culture. And as I
Fresh Knight: say it, it has been
Fresh Knight: Cole Crow versus the
Fresh Knight: Fantastic Five.
Fresh Knight: That was a battle
Fresh Knight: granite. They made
Fresh Knight: money off of it, which
Fresh Knight: goes in even more into
Fresh Knight: it. It this is all
Fresh Knight: entertainment. All of
Fresh Knight: this is WWE.
Deezie Brown: Yeah.
Fresh Knight: Like Chuck Dean, it
Fresh Knight: had nothing to say about Cameron
Fresh Knight: and Cameron and Jay-Z,
Fresh Knight: which was was some
Fresh Knight: comedy when he had JJ
Fresh Knight: down. But dynamite
Fresh Knight: playing Jay-Z in that
Fresh Knight: video, but like, come
Fresh Knight: on Chuck D, you got to
Fresh Knight: take a step back, man,
Fresh Knight: and look at things in
Fresh Knight: totality. You can't
Fresh Knight: just use what happened
Fresh Knight: to begin. Tupac as
Fresh Knight: the only reference
Fresh Knight: point for quote
Fresh Knight: unquote rap beef.
Fresh Knight: And before anybody
Fresh Knight: says anything else,
Fresh Knight: you can't say like,
Fresh Knight: well, look at 50 Cent
Fresh Knight: Giroux. That's them
Fresh Knight: deepening rap.
Fresh Knight: That's doomed.
Fresh Knight: Deepening, right? That's
Fresh Knight: just like.
Fresh Knight: What's the guy name
Fresh Knight: from Milan? Sonny digital
Fresh Knight: jumped up and with,
Fresh Knight: like, a lot of y'all making
Fresh Knight: me know. Did y'all
Fresh Knight: were there for Jeezy
Fresh Knight: versus Gucci?
Fresh Knight: Once again? That was
Fresh Knight: deepening rap. We here
Fresh Knight: for Drake and Kendrick
Fresh Knight: and Drake and Kendrick
Fresh Knight: and Cole for the raps.
Fresh Knight: That's not going to
Fresh Knight: end up with consequences
Fresh Knight: like Jeezy and Gucci
Fresh Knight: Mane is just not is
Fresh Knight: not that deep, bruh.
Fresh Knight: So, yeah, that's my
Fresh Knight: unpopular opinion, man. Oh,
Fresh Knight: just because the OG
Fresh Knight: says something does
Fresh Knight: not automatically make
Fresh Knight: it right, and don't mean we
Fresh Knight: just have to follow it
Fresh Knight: blindly, man.
Fresh Knight: Because if it's the
Fresh Knight: blindly in the blind,
Fresh Knight: we end up dead.
Confucius Jones: Just falling off a cliff.
Confucius Jones: Yeah. Me? Yeah.
Confucius Jones: I don't agree with Chuck
Confucius Jones: D on that one either.
Confucius Jones: He is an OG and
Confucius Jones: he's right about a lot of
Confucius Jones: things, but you never know.
Deezie Brown: Yeah.
Fresh Knight: Most times I'm with
Fresh Knight: him. But when I saw
Fresh Knight: this, I was like, whoops.
Fresh Knight: Where did you get this
Fresh Knight: from? Who was he
Fresh Knight: talking to?
Confucius Jones: Yeah. This is just like
Confucius Jones: I agree with like
Confucius Jones: 100 ever in life.
Confucius Jones: But,
Confucius Jones: so I'm being interviewed
Confucius Jones: by academics.
Fresh Knight: Yeah, I know exactly
Fresh Knight: what you type.
Confucius Jones: You're wack. Was basically just
Confucius Jones: that this is just two
Confucius Jones: guys rapping, man.
Fresh Knight: It's not let them rap.
Fresh Knight: If anybody else try to
Fresh Knight: take this outside the
Fresh Knight: rap then and somebody
Fresh Knight: else.
Confucius Jones: But right now it's just rapping.
Confucius Jones: So but yeah good
Confucius Jones: one.
Fresh Knight: All right. So let's
Fresh Knight: get some helpful hints
Fresh Knight: from Confucius.
Fresh Knight: And Confucius reads
Fresh Knight: the news.
Confucius Jones: Earlier in the show.
Confucius Jones: You were talking about TikTok,
Confucius Jones: right?
Confucius Jones: Do you know why you can't
Confucius Jones: go back to that thing
Confucius Jones: about it here?
Confucius Jones: According to The Verge,
Confucius Jones: a bill that could oust
Confucius Jones: TikTok from the United
Confucius Jones: States looked like
Confucius Jones: it could linger for months
Confucius Jones: in the Senate, even
Confucius Jones: after the House overwhelmingly
Confucius Jones: voted to approve it.
Confucius Jones: But a move by House
Confucius Jones: speaker Mike Johnson
Confucius Jones: from Louisiana
Confucius Jones: could change that.
Confucius Jones: An updated version of the
Confucius Jones: bill, which would enforce
Confucius Jones: the ban of TikTok
Confucius Jones: unless it divest
Confucius Jones: from its China
Confucius Jones: based parent company
Confucius Jones: ByteDance, appears
Confucius Jones: in a bill about
Confucius Jones: sanctions on Russia
Confucius Jones: and Iran, a
Confucius Jones: separate bill that would
Confucius Jones: prohibit data brokers
Confucius Jones: from transferring U.S.
Confucius Jones: users information
Confucius Jones: to foreign adversaries
Confucius Jones: is also included as
Confucius Jones: part of a package on
Confucius Jones: foreign aid to Ukraine,
Confucius Jones: Israel and Gaza.
Confucius Jones: By combining that
Confucius Jones: legislation, it could
Confucius Jones: make the TikTok
Confucius Jones: bill harder for the
Confucius Jones: Senate to ignore.
Confucius Jones: Basically, they're saying, look,
Confucius Jones: we'll get rid of this thing at
Confucius Jones: some point. We'll have to
Confucius Jones: hide it to the.
Fresh Knight: One way or another.
Confucius Jones: There's going we'll
Confucius Jones: have to live with a bill
Confucius Jones: that involves war.
Fresh Knight: So look, man,
Fresh Knight: I hope you I got your
Fresh Knight: YouTube up
Fresh Knight: and go. I don't mean
Fresh Knight: I.
Confucius Jones: Have said it.
Confucius Jones: Look, I get the
Confucius Jones: argument for not
Confucius Jones: banning it, but
Confucius Jones: what? Like the article said,
Confucius Jones: their parent company, ByteDance,
Confucius Jones: is based in China,
Confucius Jones: and China could pull those
Confucius Jones: records any time
Confucius Jones: they.
Fresh Knight: Want.
Confucius Jones: It. A lot of y'all put
Confucius Jones: a lot of information on
Confucius Jones: TikTok. Granted,
Confucius Jones: most of y'all I
Confucius Jones: mean, not that
Confucius Jones: serious, but still.
Fresh Knight: Nobody is going to be
Fresh Knight: hurt. But those people
Fresh Knight: who are making most of
Fresh Knight: their money from taking
Fresh Knight: and I've.
Confucius Jones: Said it before, the
Confucius Jones: United States does
Confucius Jones: espionage on its
Confucius Jones: own, so it's not
Confucius Jones: like it would have done us.
Fresh Knight: So no, no, no, no, we
Fresh Knight: don't like foreign espionage.
Fresh Knight: Yeah.
Confucius Jones: No no no. Yeah. We can
Confucius Jones: watch you I can't watch.
Confucius Jones: So yeah.
Confucius Jones: But if China has figured
Confucius Jones: out a way to infiltrate
Confucius Jones: American society
Confucius Jones: because of some
Confucius Jones: reels and clips,
Confucius Jones: then, boy.
Confucius Jones: That's you that will come and.
Fresh Knight: I lose mine. I'm not
Fresh Knight: going to cry about it.
Fresh Knight: I'm.
Fresh Knight: I'm not going to cry.
Fresh Knight: But it's not a big deal
Fresh Knight: to me.
Confucius Jones: I would argue, too,
Confucius Jones: that we all have family,
Confucius Jones: that we might
Confucius Jones: not have the best relationship
Confucius Jones: with, people that
Confucius Jones: we might want to fix.
Confucius Jones: Those relationships
Confucius Jones: are just like, no,
Confucius Jones: I don't even know we
Confucius Jones: have Saint blood. I
Confucius Jones: don't want anything to do with you.
Confucius Jones: Somebody who can empathize
Confucius Jones: with that right now
Confucius Jones: is Robert F Kennedy
Confucius Jones: Junior. I should say,
Confucius Jones: apparently, this entire
Confucius Jones: Kennedy family is
Confucius Jones: going to endorse
Confucius Jones: President Joe Biden
Confucius Jones: in Philadelphia as
Confucius Jones: a slight to RFK.
Confucius Jones: When you know your family,
Confucius Jones: don't lie to you.
Fresh Knight: Hey, yo.
Deezie Brown: It's so the.
Fresh Knight: Kennedy run deep.
Confucius Jones: Do they do did a
Confucius Jones: lot of them. And
Confucius Jones: they recently released
Confucius Jones: a family picture not too
Confucius Jones: long ago. And he was not
Confucius Jones: damaged.
Fresh Knight: He didn't get the he didn't
Fresh Knight: get the invite.
Confucius Jones: It says more than 15
Confucius Jones: members of the storied
Confucius Jones: Kennedy political
Confucius Jones: family will endorse
Confucius Jones: US President Joe
Confucius Jones: Biden at a Philadelphia
Confucius Jones: campaign in rebuke
Confucius Jones: of Robert F Kennedy
Confucius Jones: Jr's independent
Confucius Jones: bid for office.
Confucius Jones: The event was this past
Confucius Jones: Thursday and yeah.
Fresh Knight: Little bit better.
Fresh Knight: Just just drop out,
Fresh Knight: bruh.
Confucius Jones: But okay, so he
Confucius Jones: can't because his
Confucius Jones: campaign manager
Confucius Jones: was caught on tape
Confucius Jones: saying that he's basically
Confucius Jones: there as a spoiler
Confucius Jones: for Trump trying to
Confucius Jones: pull votes away because
Confucius Jones: they they're trying
Confucius Jones: to limit Joe
Confucius Jones: Biden's Electoral
Confucius Jones: College page, which
Confucius Jones: once again, damn,
Confucius Jones: bro, you're a
Confucius Jones: Kennedy. You don't have
Confucius Jones: to do this.
Confucius Jones: You do know that,
Confucius Jones: right?
Confucius Jones: I mean, hell, at one point in
Confucius Jones: time, Auto Sports League
Confucius Jones: was in your family and
Confucius Jones: you're doing this. You have
Confucius Jones: to do this.
Deezie Brown: You know, maybe we
Deezie Brown: drew you look
Deezie Brown: like you.
Confucius Jones: Like you. You
Confucius Jones: really could have just, like,
Confucius Jones: sat back and been
Confucius Jones: anything else you want
Confucius Jones: to be could there's
Confucius Jones: mad mediocre
Confucius Jones: Kennedy.
Deezie Brown: About to say.
Fresh Knight: Like most Kennedy.
Confucius Jones: And you just decided
Confucius Jones: to be just you had
Confucius Jones: you just had to be the
Confucius Jones: the joker of the
Confucius Jones: family.
Fresh Knight: Didn't you talk
Fresh Knight: about being the Black sheep?
Confucius Jones: That's what everybody said.
Confucius Jones: He was I this was like,
Confucius Jones: yeah, no, we're not I
Confucius Jones: don't I don't rock with him.
Confucius Jones: I'm like, damn,
Confucius Jones: y'all united in tragedy.
Confucius Jones: They still rock with
Confucius Jones: you. You would take
Confucius Jones: a family back to that much
Confucius Jones: Black. You know what?
Confucius Jones: Whatever issues that
Confucius Jones: we might have personally.
Fresh Knight: We set them.
Confucius Jones: Aside because we
Confucius Jones: know how short life
Confucius Jones: is. Like, yeah, screw that.
Deezie Brown: Back.
Confucius Jones: And we will care about
Confucius Jones: that.
Fresh Knight: And you're the man.
Fresh Knight: You're the vote you
Fresh Knight: Bobby Kennedy son.
Fresh Knight: Brennan. Stop it bro.
Confucius Jones: I know, like I
Confucius Jones: really.
Deezie Brown: Don't the second.
Confucius Jones: Most famous Kennedy.
Fresh Knight: You really don't have
Fresh Knight: to do this.
Confucius Jones: You don't have to do this.
Confucius Jones: Like you're just doing it just
Confucius Jones: to do anyway.
Confucius Jones: So Donald Trump is
Confucius Jones: currently in court
Confucius Jones: for one of his many
Confucius Jones: things, as the court for this
Confucius Jones: is for that fraud
Confucius Jones: cases.
Fresh Knight: This is the one in New York.
Confucius Jones: Yeah. Currently fraud
Confucius Jones: case in New York.
Confucius Jones: One of his arguments
Confucius Jones: for because the judge
Confucius Jones: basically told Trump he
Confucius Jones: has to be at every
Confucius Jones: guest appear at every
Confucius Jones: court hearing.
Confucius Jones: Otherwise he'll go to jail.
Confucius Jones: And Trump's arguments that,
Confucius Jones: well, doing that
Confucius Jones: will make him miss his
Confucius Jones: youngest son, Barron's
Confucius Jones: high school
Confucius Jones: graduation, which
Confucius Jones: at the same time float
Confucius Jones: flew.
Confucius Jones: I feel like there were just
Confucius Jones: like.
Fresh Knight: Six adult laureates,
Fresh Knight: going to be.
Confucius Jones: Honest with you. That's
Confucius Jones: because all Trump's other kids
Confucius Jones: are grown.
Confucius Jones: Michael Cohen of
Confucius Jones: Trump's former lawyer,
Confucius Jones: was on CNN the
Confucius Jones: other day, and he basically
Confucius Jones: laughed at Trump's
Confucius Jones: assertion that he was going
Confucius Jones: to miss Barron's graduation
Confucius Jones: quote. I find it
Confucius Jones: not just comical, right?
Confucius Jones: But I find it insulted.
Confucius Jones: And that's the big issue.
Confucius Jones: Michael Cohen said, I missed
Confucius Jones: my 25th anniversary
Confucius Jones: of my wife's 50th birthday
Confucius Jones: because I was in Otisville,
Confucius Jones: in part because of things
Confucius Jones: that I had done at the direction
Confucius Jones: of and for the benefit
Confucius Jones: of Donald Trump.
Confucius Jones: So before I start
Confucius Jones: shedding a tear for
Confucius Jones: him, for Barron, I'm sure
Confucius Jones: Melania is extremely
Confucius Jones: excited. He's not going
Confucius Jones: to be there.
Confucius Jones: Rest assured, I'm
Confucius Jones: not lose any sleep.
Confucius Jones: Or am I going to share
Confucius Jones: it to you that Trump can
Confucius Jones: go to Baron's graduation?
Confucius Jones: Also, they dug deep
Confucius Jones: in this research
Confucius Jones: and Trump has never been
Confucius Jones: to any of his kids.
Fresh Knight: I was going to ask that has
Fresh Knight: he been to any of, you
Fresh Knight: know.
Confucius Jones: Any of.
Fresh Knight: Them? He's just trying
Fresh Knight: to find where he's.
Confucius Jones: Trying to find a way out of.
Deezie Brown: It.
Deezie Brown: Yeah, okay.
Confucius Jones: You didn't go to that. What are your
Confucius Jones: kids graduation,
Confucius Jones: bro? You have five
Confucius Jones: children.
Confucius Jones: Don't try to do the last
Confucius Jones: one. Try to get out of court
Confucius Jones: row at work.
Confucius Jones: I'm telling you how
Confucius Jones: stupid Sopranos.
Deezie Brown: I'm like.
Confucius Jones: Trump sounds like a
Confucius Jones: deadbeat dad.
Confucius Jones: I got to go back to your graduation,
Confucius Jones: bro. You're kidding me. Know your.
Deezie Brown: Name?
Confucius Jones: He graduates kids
Confucius Jones: looking at like, who are you?
Confucius Jones: He seemed like the
Confucius Jones: type.
Fresh Knight: You probably not even expecting
Fresh Knight: him to be there.
Confucius Jones: That's one thing I'll give
Confucius Jones: Trump supporters. That boy,
Confucius Jones: could. They can spend it. I
Confucius Jones: would love for them to
Confucius Jones: try to explain that, you
Confucius Jones: know, you don't go to college graduations.
Fresh Knight: Oh, man.
Confucius Jones: Also during Trump's
Confucius Jones: Manhattan trial, one of
Confucius Jones: the jurors got dismissed
Confucius Jones: because, of course,
Confucius Jones: Jesse Waters on Fox
Confucius Jones: News added her identity
Confucius Jones: and she fears for her
Confucius Jones: life.
Fresh Knight: My goodness.
Confucius Jones: You would think Fox
Confucius Jones: News would learn from getting
Confucius Jones: sued before that.
Confucius Jones: Leave people alone.
Fresh Knight: But I guess they
Fresh Knight: haven't learned,
Confucius Jones: When he went to jump on a train
Confucius Jones: tracks that train to keep
Confucius Jones: running over you.
Confucius Jones: But this past Tuesday,
Confucius Jones: the seven jurors been selected
Confucius Jones: to determine whether Donald
Confucius Jones: Trump should be the first
Confucius Jones: president ever convicted
Confucius Jones: of a crime.
Confucius Jones: But by Thursday
Confucius Jones: morning, there were only six.
Confucius Jones: According to Judge
Confucius Jones: Juan Merchant, the
Confucius Jones: juror was excused
Confucius Jones: after later expressing
Confucius Jones: doubt that she could
Confucius Jones: remain fair and impartial.
Confucius Jones: In particular, she
Confucius Jones: said that friends and
Confucius Jones: family had I reached
Confucius Jones: out to ask if she
Confucius Jones: was serving on the jury.
Confucius Jones: Those calls came after
Confucius Jones: media outlets reported
Confucius Jones: potentially identifying
Confucius Jones: biographical information
Confucius Jones: about the woman, including
Confucius Jones: her job in the neighborhood
Confucius Jones: she called home.
Deezie Brown: Oh my goodness.
Confucius Jones: Yeah, that sounds like to
Confucius Jones: me what they said.
Confucius Jones: I was saying, Jamie
Confucius Jones: Fox, you know, the
Confucius Jones: uncle, uncle junior.
Confucius Jones: That sounds like a big
Confucius Jones: ass lawsuit,
Confucius Jones: because, boy, they'd
Confucius Jones: get out.
Fresh Knight: I definitely be suing.
Confucius Jones: Chateau for, you know, being
Confucius Jones: honest, saying I can't be impartial
Confucius Jones: because I'm getting death
Confucius Jones: threats because of
Confucius Jones: this. Because I
Confucius Jones: said, you know what? You sure
Confucius Jones: I'm different this
Confucius Jones: year? Now, this one
Confucius Jones: ain't no he could do to not
Confucius Jones: that be guilty.
Confucius Jones: You damn right I'm
Confucius Jones: saying. I would
Confucius Jones: have said nothing.
Confucius Jones: I just said right there.
Fresh Knight: Yes, you're right. I'm definitely
Fresh Knight: suing. I'm definitely
Fresh Knight: suing Fox. I'm
Fresh Knight: definitely suing.
Fresh Knight: You better get.
Confucius Jones: Out of trouble and go kill
Confucius Jones: you. Watch this.
Fresh Knight: Yeah. Let the. Yeah.
Fresh Knight: Let my job address out
Fresh Knight: in my neighborhood,
Fresh Knight: bro.
Confucius Jones: Come on, man, come
Confucius Jones: on.
Fresh Knight: I walk outside, somebody's
Fresh Knight: throwing some at me.
Fresh Knight: I'm getting off work.
Confucius Jones: We all go back. I'm
Confucius Jones: going to be cool again. I'm
Confucius Jones: being in for murder. But
Confucius Jones: we better go.
Deezie Brown: Everybody out.
Confucius Jones: So. Yeah.
Confucius Jones: The goat man.
Fresh Knight: It sounded like it
Fresh Knight: looking.
Confucius Jones: I'm not. You know, I'm
Confucius Jones: sure there's people that listen
Confucius Jones: to the breaks that
Confucius Jones: are supporters of
Confucius Jones: Trump and.
Confucius Jones: I'm not trying to
Confucius Jones: say that your
Confucius Jones: undisputed leader
Confucius Jones: is weird and when
Confucius Jones: wonky.
Confucius Jones: I'm just saying
Confucius Jones: some of this stuff didn't
Confucius Jones: make any damn sense
Confucius Jones: to me when you know
Confucius Jones: that I was doing it for bad,
Confucius Jones: right? Like, I know
Confucius Jones: nobody.
Confucius Jones: Nobody's doing everybody.
Confucius Jones: No, nobody's mixing
Confucius Jones: and death threats because
Confucius Jones: of. Well, you know
Confucius Jones: what?
Confucius Jones: Not really death threats,
Confucius Jones: but I'm not gonna say anything.
Deezie Brown: Oh.
Confucius Jones: It's just it's a
Confucius Jones: lot going on in the world.
Confucius Jones: I say that
Confucius Jones: under bad leadership.
Confucius Jones: NBA YoungBoy was
Confucius Jones: arrested.
Fresh Knight: Again.
Confucius Jones: In Utah for
Confucius Jones: multiple charges.
Confucius Jones: According to jail records
Confucius Jones: obtained by Hip Hop
Confucius Jones: Rd. The Baton Rouge
Confucius Jones: native, whose real
Confucius Jones: name is Cantrell
Confucius Jones: Gordon, was booked
Confucius Jones: in Cascade County
Confucius Jones: Sheriff's Office
Confucius Jones: this past Tuesday.
Confucius Jones: He has been charged with
Confucius Jones: a string of weapons,
Confucius Jones: drug and fraud charges,
Confucius Jones: including pattern
Confucius Jones: of unlawful activity,
Confucius Jones: procuring or
Confucius Jones: attempting to procure
Confucius Jones: drug prescription,
Confucius Jones: identity fraud,
Confucius Jones: forgery, possession
Confucius Jones: of other controlled substances
Confucius Jones: and possession of a dangerous
Confucius Jones: weapon by a restricted
Confucius Jones: person.
Confucius Jones: The raid was coordinated
Confucius Jones: by the FBI, the Secret
Confucius Jones: Service and Swat.
Confucius Jones: Why did the Secret Service
Confucius Jones: there?
Fresh Knight: We had three government.
Deezie Brown: Agencies.
Confucius Jones: Going after him.
Confucius Jones: Apparently he had been
Confucius Jones: warned because he's
Confucius Jones: on probation in Utah.
Confucius Jones: He there's another case
Confucius Jones: that he's fighting and they
Confucius Jones: you know, he agreed a
Confucius Jones: couple of years ago to instead
Confucius Jones: of prison, to be hauled
Confucius Jones: up in the mountains of Utah,
Confucius Jones: which is a wild place
Confucius Jones: in Baton Rouge.
Confucius Jones: And yeah,
Confucius Jones: apparently, some, I
Confucius Jones: guess, is lawful to
Confucius Jones: reach out to him saying like,
Confucius Jones: hey, bro, we're here. A lot of things
Confucius Jones: going on up there. Him
Confucius Jones: you're not doing drugs,
Confucius Jones: are you? Not supposed to. He
Confucius Jones: base I'ma keep doing it.
Confucius Jones: I'm not going to stop
Confucius Jones: this, I bet.
Fresh Knight: So this young man
Fresh Knight: clearly likes jail.
Fresh Knight: He likes. I think he
Fresh Knight: likes in being I
Fresh Knight: don't. You know what?
Fresh Knight: Let me let me say I
Fresh Knight: mean, that's.
Confucius Jones: Yeah. According to U.S.
Confucius Jones: Attorney Ronald C
Confucius Jones: gates Jr, he
Confucius Jones: claimed the young boy had
Confucius Jones: informed his supervising
Confucius Jones: officer that he has
Confucius Jones: no intentions to
Confucius Jones: discontinue using a
Confucius Jones: substance that resulted
Confucius Jones: in his violation.
Deezie Brown: Are you?
Deezie Brown: He.
Confucius Jones: He's like, he's 24
Confucius Jones: years old.
Fresh Knight: The lights on, but
Fresh Knight: nobody is at home in.
Confucius Jones: I think your boy just.
Confucius Jones: He's he's a troubled
Confucius Jones: soul.
Confucius Jones: Dallas is very
Confucius Jones: troubled.
Fresh Knight: Definitely.
Confucius Jones: That's why you tell you
Confucius Jones: you're on probation. You're like,
Confucius Jones: I'm not doing. I'm not. I'm gonna
Confucius Jones: keep.
Fresh Knight: Doing. I'm listening,
Fresh Knight: and I'm gonna keep doing this.
Confucius Jones: So now I'm pretty sure the gun
Confucius Jones: revoke his probation.
Confucius Jones: I'm sure he is in
Confucius Jones: prison.
Confucius Jones: Until it's time for his
Confucius Jones: court case.
Fresh Knight: So that's nuts, man.
Confucius Jones: Wild.
Confucius Jones: The biggest artist
Confucius Jones: of a generation.
Confucius Jones: It's just.
Fresh Knight: Can't stay free.
Confucius Jones: Can't stay free.
Confucius Jones: And that's future, reads
Confucius Jones: the news.
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