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I was doing some research for the

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show, and I

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ran across an article that had a

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picture of J.

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Cole, and I forgot what the article
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about but J.Cole was in it.

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And, it's one of those early

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pictures between sideline stories.

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What was the second one?

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Born center, born center where he

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was kind of finally focusing

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more on like trying to really become

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the artist he wanted to be.

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And I remember when

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he had that song was "I Failed Nas"?

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Let Nas Down.

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Let Nas Down.

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And I got to thinking it's J.

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Cole like the Nas of the generation.

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And I say that to say Nas.

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While he's been regarded as one of

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the top rappers of his time.

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What he was like, really, really

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going.

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He couldn't get past kind of Jay-Z

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So I would say that J. Cole is the

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Nas to Drake's Jay-Z.

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That's one,

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but also him rapping at such a high

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level that it kind of doesn't

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matter. You don't really see it as

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much. So.

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I don't know, is J.

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Cole the Nas of this generation?

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I think most people would agree with

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that. I think that's kind of being

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the label that has been tagged with

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J. Cole since making the song, Let

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Nas Down.

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I think they kind of put things

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into perspective

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for a lot of people when it comes to

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like, I guess, musical comparisons,

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that he is this generation's

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Nas and like you said, he

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would be the Nas to

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Drakes being Jay-Z,

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aside from them not beefing with

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each other.

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lot of similarities to both

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Cole and Nas.

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They take a more, I will say,

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of an artistic approach

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to making music in wanting

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or at least wanting, having

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something to say.

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Most people will say, and

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some people will say both of them

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are boring at times.

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Jay and Nas?

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No, Nas and J Cole.

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I think most as the knock on J holds

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that, you know, his music is good

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for cleaning and I and I think to

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myself, I listen to a lot of

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a lot of stuff while cleaning

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doesn't make it boring, but alright,

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but not going to admit that he is

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boring. I've heard people say Nas is

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kind of eh.

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exist in this place of.

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Hip hop superiority in a good way.

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Like you can say J.Cole music is

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cleaning music, but you're not going
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say he can't rap, right?

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Like people might say, well, I like

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Jay-Z better, but nobody's going to

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say Nas can rap.

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So they both exist in that space.

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Also, Nas has way more albums

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than J. Cole currently Nas has

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16 and J.

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Cole has seven.

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Take granted, J. Cole hasn't been

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around as long. And also Nas has

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been on a tear for sure for sure

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last few years. There you see J.

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Cole doing something like that at

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some point.

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is what he's doing now with

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features, how he just jumps on

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every song and just been

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I will look at it like that.

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point? Where he just like went

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did a bunch of features.

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remember. Not that I can recall

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that he just was on this tear of

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don't remember like one coming after

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the other for like

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what, six years straight?

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of his generation while being signed

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by Jay-Z, I think the song let Nas

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down and kind of let it be known

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that, like I kind of look up more

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to Nas like I'm

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looking more for his approval than

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I am for Jay's approval.

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looking for Jay's approval because

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I'm signed to him and I want to get

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my music out. But

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when I put it out, I want Nas

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to feel a way about this.

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the way I was a fan of him.

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So like, yeah.

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I forgot what song it was, that Nas

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said like, "Yeah, that was trash.

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You shouldn't did that." But Cole

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was also like, but you may, you owe

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me. I thought you would, like,

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really understand about putting

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out a song you didn't remember.

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in Let Nas Down.

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Oh, the only the only Mr..

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Yeah, I remember that story.

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Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

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It was a nice.

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Let me. You owe me.

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You should really understand why a

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lot of people do a lot of things.

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So you know what we're

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talking about. You owe me.

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But I've seen him perform at shows.

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I think you told me that he performs

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at a show. That I'm shocked.

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Cause annually I look

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You owe me the way I look at

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sunshine for Jay-Z.

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Like, yeah, you know, it's in the

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catalog. Well, I don't really see

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those guys wanting to perform that,

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but if not, they're doing it.

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Hey man, Go Off

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Maybe is a bigger song than I

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thought. I don't know.

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Sunshine was definitely a bigger

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song than I thought it was.

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I mean, most people know sunshine.

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never performed, but, you know,

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does J.Cole still perform

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stuff from his first album?

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I don't think so.

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Maybe, was the joint with Missy

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Elliott.

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Nobody's perfect.

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Yeah, I think that's the only one.

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You definitely do it. I can't get

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that I know of that he might

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still perform.

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Other than that, no.

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I'm pretty sure Nas does most of his

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catalog. He's not - he's going to do

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he's going to do you know stuff off

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Illmatic.

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I don't know by Nostradamus I.

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Don't know if he performs

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Nostradamus, but he might perform

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something off of that album in Black

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Girl. Out on that album.

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Yes. He I think he performed with

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Black Girls.

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And Jake over here.

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And and you owe me.

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Was on you. You said he.

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He's running around performing You

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owe me so.

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but, yeah, I do think J.

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Cole appears more than us than

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any of the artists of this era.

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between the Nas

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to Jay-Z and Drake to

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J. Cole.

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Is that Drake is a much bigger

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artist than everybody.

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There was a time with Jay and I were

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kind of neck and neck.

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touches Drake.

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think that will be the only thing

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that kind of the

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difference in the comparison is,

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like you said, Drake is just when

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it comes to rap, especially Drake

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is the biggest in the room.

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said, when it's all said and done,

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Drake will probably surpass and be

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considered the greatest of all time,

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but I don't think Cole will be far

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behind. If not, the argument

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will continue about him being

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better and throwing Kendrick in

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there somewhere.

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submented.

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I don't think it's much more than he

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needs to do to

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prove what he is.

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But like say he gets on his features

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though, and then it's like he's

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like, I think think was on the song.

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Drake is just if you compare

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to Jay-Z at this point in time, he's

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way past that.

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Drake is a huge international.

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Jay-Z is kind of international for

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the most part. But.

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I mean, I would say he I believe

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he can do his show overseas and it'd

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be a successful show.

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And people overseas know who Jay-Z

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is and know the music, but I don't

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think he's as big

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international wise as Drake is.

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You obviously go by the same way.

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Considering Jay-Z doesn't really put

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like that. Yeah.

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hop and R&B scene as it stands

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As it stands right now?

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The hip hop and R&B scene

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in Austin is, I

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will say, thriving.

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We both talked about that last week.

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It's going in a great direction.

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It's trending upward, is trending

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upward.

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Now, on the flip side of that, what

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are some things you think kind of

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hinder it from going a little bit

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faster?

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Management.

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Oh we're like on the price is the

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right; the word here is.

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I agree.

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In your experience, some shows we've

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put on and all we deal with are even

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trying to get interviews up here or

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whatever.

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Is it sometimes harder

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for Austin artists

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to get that message across?

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Or the other artists we've dealt

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with?

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Yeah, I feel like reaching

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out to

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artists is frustrating.

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I'll say that it's frustrating

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because I don't know from

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experience, artists don't seem to

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comprehend well, for some reason.

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And then you would think

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that, all right, I'll just talk to

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the manager and then you get

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to management.

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The management doesn't comprehend

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well. And it's like,

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what am I saying?

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That is not being understood

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correctly. Like when we

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want to have somebody interviewed

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here and we reach out and say,

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hey, yo, we want to have you on the

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show, bring you up to talk about the

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album and, you know, the new single,

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we need you here at this time, here,

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here.

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Are. We got to be up there at that

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one. Like I got to be there by that.

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Yes, that's that's

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what I said. And then if they

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have an artist, has a manager, you

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think, all right, the manager is

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going to be able to get them here,

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get them here on time and we

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can do this. And then when that

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doesn't happen now you just sitting

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here scratching your head like, yo,

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where was the disconnect?

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Where was the mis communication.

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Like what happened between

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my communication with your manager

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and communication between your

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manager and you

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that caused things to

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go awry is disarray.

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What I was thinking, too, is,

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for instance, you have

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people that come from out of town to

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come here, that don't

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have sometimes the jaded view

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of, like a lot of us do about the

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city that we grew up in.

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Right?

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So somebody have come here from out

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of town and they'll say to

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themselves, hey, I like the scene

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and what I've found, and I want to

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be a manager there. You just seems

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to work at better than the person

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who's been here a while and tries to

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manage it like they're managing

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their best friend, from what

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I've experienced is a lot of times

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artists want to get

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managers before they're ready.

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If you're not getting your phone

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blown up, you don't need somebody.

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Yeah, I think people get a manager

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because they think that's what is

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needed.

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They're not a booking agent, but

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you have people that

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you ask like, well, where's my

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manager at? Oh, you know where we

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grew up together.

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Are they going to school for this?

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Like what are their order?

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You know, they just do x, y, z.

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And that's sometimes when things get

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lost in translation.

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What I don't like is the party

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promoter who becomes a manager,

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because most times they're just

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trying to set up the client for

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parties.

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If you're trying to be an artist to

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perform, you want somebody who like,

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you know, can get you in those

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places.

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But I asked a friend of the show,

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Wayne.

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I said, what for management

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companies. Do you know of an Austin

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like major ones? He says Laurel

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management, True Grit,

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888 and why and how.

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And I also wondered what those type

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of management services,

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how many of those are reaching out,

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are looking into the scene to try to

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manage hip hop, hip hop and R&B.

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Also a lot them don't have to settle

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for their friends right.

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I'm familiar with a couple of them,

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and I know they're

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either are or have been some

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artists from the scene who have been

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represented by a

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couple of those companies.

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Well, some you said "I always

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thought about" You like you

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know, somebody gets their friend

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or somebody they grew up with or

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somebody they're close with to end

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up being their manager.

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And I get it.

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It makes sense in an artist's

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head, they're like, you know, this

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guy's with me.

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They're here all the time.

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They see me working.

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They can help me out, especially if

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they're going to be around and want

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to kind of reap some type of benefit

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after it. Let's say I blow

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up and like, yeah, they help me

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get there so I can understand their

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line of thinking a lot.

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You know, I just make them the

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manager.

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But like you say, like, what are

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they going for school for this.

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And to my knowledge, there

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isn't really a class

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or like that's not a major in

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college to be a music manager.

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Yeah. Like business management

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is a major.

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But like, I

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don't know anybody that has gone to

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school and say like, oh, well, no,

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I'm majoring in, you know, music,

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you know, music management, trying

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to be a manager. When I get out of

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here, I'm trying to trying to rap

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artists. I think that just

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for a lot of people, I think that's

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something you fall into because

447
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you just happen to know people

448
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and you have made

449
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connections doing whatever it was

450
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that you were doing.

451
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Like most managers, I think in hip

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hop have stumbled into it, like

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I would say, the late Holbein,

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who at one point was

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managing Troy and he

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started out he was Troy's manager, I

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don't know who's managing Troy now,

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though. Not my business, but

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I know Holbein was at one point, and

460
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I believe Holbein was managing smoke

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design and styles P upon

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his untimely

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passing.

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But I don't think Holbein went to

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school for it. I think Holbein just

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happened to be a guy who was from

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New York, and moving around the city

468
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made some connections and felt like

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I can help further

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an artist's career, especially after

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helping build up Troy.

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So I think a lot of people

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come into management that

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way, but it's not

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for everybody. I'll say that

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everybody can't do.

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And I think most people think

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like jumping into management is

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something easy that everybody can

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do. It's a skill.

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I will say that.

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Yeah, there's a lot of former

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managers running around, but.

484
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I'm one of them.

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Right. Same. I'm not.

486
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Yeah. Same.

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Yeah. You just need you know

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somebody that like you said it's

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like like a whole vein. Like it's

490
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just a dog and just doing everything

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they can to help, their, their

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artist out the best way they can.

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But I just think it really does

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help sometimes to have a fresh pair

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of eyes. And that's why I'm a fan of

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the out of town person becoming a

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manager.

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If you think about some of the

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artists that we've dealt with, their

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managers from out of town.

501
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Yeah, you know, I think Mike

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Milano's group is and

503
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I know Bruce Frisch, that people

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from out of town. So you, you have

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this more a mentality

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of this can work because

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they're not seeing the same

508
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limitations. People from here do we

509
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talk may you talk about on the phone

510
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the other day about how when,

511
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you know, I come visit your

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apartment, I think, oh, fresh

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apartments, nice and clean is cool

514
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over here. When I leave, you might

515
00:14:33,630 --> 00:14:34,889
notice like, oh, well, you know, the

516
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couch is not as comfortable at the

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sheet has been moved.

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And so that's what we, like we said

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about artists here in the city, they

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hindered themselves because they had

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this negative view. But when you get

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a manager that doesn't have that

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view, I think it definitely helps

524
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for sure.

525
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For sure. Piggybacking on your

526
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point about having a fresh pair of

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eyes or somebody being from out of

528
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town, I think, and

529
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my, my or our experience,

530
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those have kind of, I won't say have

531
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been the best, but

532
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have probably been the easiest to

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work with because some

534
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of those individuals are coming from

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a bigger market or coming from a

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much bigger city in a much

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busier scene, to where

538
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they have this perspective of,

539
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well, you know, out there in L.A.

540
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or in New York or in Atlanta when,

541
00:15:18,930 --> 00:15:20,759
you know, somewhere in Miami, like,

542
00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:21,689
this is how it works.

543
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I'm coming here thinking that

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I got to do the same thing that I

545
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was doing out there.

546
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And it's not working like that out

547
00:15:27,450 --> 00:15:29,669
here, and I'm having to adjust,

548
00:15:29,670 --> 00:15:31,769
but it's an easier adjustment

549
00:15:31,770 --> 00:15:33,599
to do it because I was talking

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to the process fresh manager, and he

551
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was like, I'm coming from L.A.

552
00:15:36,780 --> 00:15:38,639
and he was like, everything

553
00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:40,079
here is in emails and email.

554
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He was like, it's kind of an insult

555
00:15:41,850 --> 00:15:42,629
in L.A.

556
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to shoot somebody an email like, you

557
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don't like do that.

558
00:15:45,570 --> 00:15:47,459
Like if they know you and I just

559
00:15:47,460 --> 00:15:48,689
need a favor.

560
00:15:48,690 --> 00:15:50,699
But like here, everything is worked

561
00:15:50,700 --> 00:15:52,409
out. Email. And he was like, I mean,

562
00:15:52,410 --> 00:15:53,489
he was like, I can do it.

563
00:15:53,490 --> 00:15:55,409
That's fairly easy for me to shoot

564
00:15:55,410 --> 00:15:56,549
off email and just wait for the

565
00:15:56,550 --> 00:15:57,869
response.

566
00:15:57,870 --> 00:16:00,299
I just think people coming from

567
00:16:00,300 --> 00:16:02,159
those situations,

568
00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,299
like you said, have a different

569
00:16:03,300 --> 00:16:04,859
perspective on it and looking it out

570
00:16:04,860 --> 00:16:05,759
and like, well, I like this.

571
00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,069
This is cool, this is easy.

572
00:16:08,070 --> 00:16:09,719
This scene and moving around here is

573
00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:11,579
a lot more manageable than moving

574
00:16:11,580 --> 00:16:13,619
around in LA or New York.

575
00:16:13,620 --> 00:16:15,989
And everything is go, go go go go.

576
00:16:15,990 --> 00:16:17,879
I can take time and shoot this

577
00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:19,349
email off and then sit over here and

578
00:16:19,350 --> 00:16:20,999
we can sit out and plan the next

579
00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:22,769
marketing for whatever single or

580
00:16:22,770 --> 00:16:25,339
album that we got coming or show.

581
00:16:25,340 --> 00:16:27,169
Yeah, no I agree.

582
00:16:27,170 --> 00:16:29,209
And I also just hope that the people

583
00:16:29,210 --> 00:16:30,559
in this city are the managers out

584
00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:31,819
there. Obviously from the companies

585
00:16:31,820 --> 00:16:32,899
I named.

586
00:16:32,900 --> 00:16:34,819
Doing their due diligence to try

587
00:16:34,820 --> 00:16:36,097
to help out the hip hop and R&B

588
00:16:36,098 --> 00:16:37,669
scene as well, for sure.

589
00:16:37,670 --> 00:16:39,589
I hope those companies and

590
00:16:39,590 --> 00:16:41,359
any other one that wasn't named in

591
00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:42,229
the city are looking.

592
00:16:42,230 --> 00:16:44,539
We are looking inward

593
00:16:44,540 --> 00:16:47,269
to see what talent is ready

594
00:16:47,270 --> 00:16:48,859
and can be prepped for that next

595
00:16:48,860 --> 00:16:50,509
level, because I think that will

596
00:16:50,510 --> 00:16:52,579
help. We have all of these entities

597
00:16:52,580 --> 00:16:53,749
apparently have all of these

598
00:16:53,750 --> 00:16:55,849
entities in the city that

599
00:16:55,850 --> 00:16:56,869
aren't looking inward.

600
00:16:56,870 --> 00:16:59,359
And I think that kind of stifles

601
00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,219
the seen, like if we

602
00:17:01,220 --> 00:17:02,939
have management companies in here,

603
00:17:02,940 --> 00:17:04,759
but nobody's looking at

604
00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,659
the artists to say, I want

605
00:17:06,660 --> 00:17:08,328
it, they're ready. They're a star.

606
00:17:08,329 --> 00:17:10,219
Let's see if we can get them

607
00:17:10,220 --> 00:17:12,108
to that star level.

608
00:17:12,109 --> 00:17:13,759
And you just letting it fall by the

609
00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,889
wayside like yeah

610
00:17:15,890 --> 00:17:17,269
that's not really progressing

611
00:17:17,270 --> 00:17:18,270
anything here.

612
00:17:19,930 --> 00:17:20,949
So hopefully, you know, I mean, it's

613
00:17:20,950 --> 00:17:21,818
one of the things I want to see

614
00:17:21,819 --> 00:17:23,649
improved this year. But we'll see,

615
00:17:23,650 --> 00:17:24,608
you know make sure you management's

616
00:17:24,609 --> 00:17:26,828
up to par guys and gals.

617
00:17:26,829 --> 00:17:28,689
Yeah. And don't get one before

618
00:17:28,690 --> 00:17:30,299
you need one.

619
00:17:30,300 --> 00:17:31,619
Because I think that hurts a lot of

620
00:17:31,620 --> 00:17:32,639
you.

621
00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,499
And get someone who is competent.

622
00:17:34,500 --> 00:17:35,819
No. God.

623
00:17:35,820 --> 00:17:36,869
Get someone that's competent.

624
00:17:36,870 --> 00:17:38,284
I've met a lot of y'all that are

625
00:17:38,285 --> 00:17:40,139
just not competent, man.

626
00:17:40,140 --> 00:17:41,140
All say.

627
00:17:45,350 --> 00:17:46,879
We'll be right back after this quick

628
00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:47,880
break.

629
00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:57,259
And now it's time for Hip Hop Fix.

630
00:17:57,260 --> 00:17:58,369
Some people's favorite segment.

631
00:17:58,370 --> 00:17:59,959
One of my favorite segments.

632
00:17:59,960 --> 00:18:01,069
We all learn something new every

633
00:18:01,070 --> 00:18:01,339
day.

634
00:18:01,340 --> 00:18:02,449
Yeah, let's let's let's get

635
00:18:02,450 --> 00:18:03,469
educated.

636
00:18:03,470 --> 00:18:04,849
You go ahead and go first.

637
00:18:04,850 --> 00:18:06,769
Well, this weekend, tomorrow to

638
00:18:06,770 --> 00:18:07,929
be exact.

639
00:18:07,930 --> 00:18:08,899
Well, not tomorrow.

640
00:18:08,900 --> 00:18:11,239
The 28th is the 28th Monday?

641
00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:12,349
What is it, Monday?

642
00:18:12,350 --> 00:18:13,369
No, no no, no, it's Sunday.

643
00:18:13,370 --> 00:18:14,209
Sunday?

644
00:18:14,210 --> 00:18:15,109
Sunday. Because I got a doctor's

645
00:18:15,110 --> 00:18:16,110
appointment on 29th.

646
00:18:17,390 --> 00:18:19,489
The 28th, we will be celebrating

647
00:18:19,490 --> 00:18:21,709
the birthdays of Rick Ross,

648
00:18:21,710 --> 00:18:23,629
J. Cole, and Rock

649
00:18:23,630 --> 00:18:24,499
Kim.

650
00:18:24,500 --> 00:18:25,369
Now, I knew J.

651
00:18:25,370 --> 00:18:26,779
Cole and Rock Kim shared a birthday.

652
00:18:26,780 --> 00:18:28,099
I had no idea that was Rick Ross's

653
00:18:28,100 --> 00:18:29,209
birthday.

654
00:18:29,210 --> 00:18:31,549
So little fun fact there.

655
00:18:31,550 --> 00:18:33,049
Yeah, I had no idea either.

656
00:18:33,050 --> 00:18:34,050
Wow.

657
00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:35,809
Interesting.

658
00:18:35,810 --> 00:18:37,849
My first fact is

659
00:18:37,850 --> 00:18:41,029
the TLC biggest song, waterfalls,

660
00:18:41,030 --> 00:18:43,099
was produced by Organized Noise,

661
00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:45,739
which is the production team that

662
00:18:45,740 --> 00:18:47,679
discovered Outkast.

663
00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:49,269
When they were drafting that song

664
00:18:49,270 --> 00:18:51,013
and coming up with it, they asked

665
00:18:51,014 --> 00:18:52,014
CeeLo to

666
00:18:53,170 --> 00:18:54,999
sing a reference for it to give to

667
00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,109
TLC.

668
00:18:56,110 --> 00:18:57,369
So out there in the world, there is

669
00:18:57,370 --> 00:19:00,129
a Cee-Lo version of waterfalls

670
00:19:00,130 --> 00:19:02,079
that I would love to hear, and that

671
00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,039
is a reference. Wasn't that it's

672
00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:04,799
going to be rough, but great.

673
00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,159
I would love to hear that.

674
00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:07,959
Let's stick with the Dungeon Family

675
00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,939
Frank Ocean song, Pink

676
00:19:09,940 --> 00:19:11,739
Matter off of Channel Orange.

677
00:19:11,740 --> 00:19:14,229
Yeah. Oh, that features Andre 3000.

678
00:19:14,230 --> 00:19:16,179
Apparently there's a version out

679
00:19:16,180 --> 00:19:17,709
there with Big Boy on it.

680
00:19:17,710 --> 00:19:18,939
I've heard it.

681
00:19:18,940 --> 00:19:21,099
I heard it, and when I found fact.

682
00:19:21,100 --> 00:19:22,089
No.

683
00:19:22,090 --> 00:19:23,919
But apparently the label

684
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,779
is what stopped the version

685
00:19:25,780 --> 00:19:27,609
with Big Boi and Andre coming out,

686
00:19:27,610 --> 00:19:28,659
because apparently somebody didn't

687
00:19:28,660 --> 00:19:30,849
want a Outkast

688
00:19:30,850 --> 00:19:33,489
reunion or an outcast

689
00:19:33,490 --> 00:19:34,509
reunion. I don't think

690
00:19:35,620 --> 00:19:37,209
Big Boi and Andre looked at it like

691
00:19:37,210 --> 00:19:38,649
that, but I think the fans would

692
00:19:38,650 --> 00:19:39,549
have been like, oh my God, they're

693
00:19:39,550 --> 00:19:40,419
getting back together.

694
00:19:40,420 --> 00:19:42,129
So somebody at the label is like,

695
00:19:42,130 --> 00:19:43,959
yeah, just let this be a

696
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,249
Andre thing.

697
00:19:45,250 --> 00:19:47,019
I remember too, when that happened,

698
00:19:47,020 --> 00:19:48,669
Andre was on the original song

699
00:19:48,670 --> 00:19:50,619
version, came out with Big Boi, and

700
00:19:50,620 --> 00:19:51,849
Andre himself had to come out and

701
00:19:51,850 --> 00:19:54,009
say, what? You know, I had no idea,

702
00:19:54,010 --> 00:19:55,029
but they were gonna try to add Big

703
00:19:55,030 --> 00:19:56,139
Boi to it, right?

704
00:19:56,140 --> 00:19:57,759
Basically, I don't like you not

705
00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:58,959
gonna do an outcast reunion on

706
00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:00,459
somebody else's song, which just not

707
00:20:00,460 --> 00:20:02,289
a thing. So yeah, that

708
00:20:02,290 --> 00:20:03,899
was a whole weird myth, man.

709
00:20:03,900 --> 00:20:05,739
Yeah, I've heard

710
00:20:05,740 --> 00:20:07,460
the label do not hear anything.

711
00:20:09,070 --> 00:20:11,349
We're huge Wu-Tang fans here.

712
00:20:11,350 --> 00:20:12,729
Ghostface being my favorite.

713
00:20:12,730 --> 00:20:14,349
I'm assuming yours.

714
00:20:14,350 --> 00:20:15,550
Yeah. Ghostface,

715
00:20:16,630 --> 00:20:17,859
the people don't know about Ghostface

716
00:20:17,860 --> 00:20:20,139
is he has a wave of crime

717
00:20:20,140 --> 00:20:22,149
in the 90s that he was doing

718
00:20:22,150 --> 00:20:23,949
against other rappers.

719
00:20:23,950 --> 00:20:25,329
I was digging around in there trying

720
00:20:25,330 --> 00:20:27,159
to find the fact, and I ran across

721
00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:29,109
this fact that at one point in time,

722
00:20:29,110 --> 00:20:30,609
Ghostface Killah of Wu-Tang clan

723
00:20:30,610 --> 00:20:31,959
broke rapper Mason's jaw.

724
00:20:33,790 --> 00:20:35,619
May spoke on it after an incident

725
00:20:35,620 --> 00:20:37,659
back in the mid 2000,

726
00:20:37,660 --> 00:20:39,249
when Joe Budden was live streaming

727
00:20:39,250 --> 00:20:39,859
and got slammed.

728
00:20:39,860 --> 00:20:41,409
By that punch by Raekwon.

729
00:20:41,410 --> 00:20:42,410
Yeah.

730
00:20:42,850 --> 00:20:44,079
I think he was two past inmates at

731
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,059
the time was on the whole, you know,

732
00:20:46,060 --> 00:20:47,199
I just don't know what hip hop is

733
00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,029
going and getting violent.

734
00:20:49,030 --> 00:20:50,229
I remember when I got punched in the

735
00:20:50,230 --> 00:20:52,179
mouth by Ghostface and my

736
00:20:52,180 --> 00:20:53,419
jaw got wide and I got.

737
00:20:53,420 --> 00:20:54,941
While I mean he hit you pretty had

738
00:20:54,942 --> 00:20:55,942
if your jaw widened.

739
00:20:56,980 --> 00:20:57,849
Man.

740
00:20:57,850 --> 00:20:58,861
I mean, he broke something.

741
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,629
Man, so yeah. Ghostface, I'm glad

742
00:21:01,630 --> 00:21:03,490
you've calmed down.

743
00:21:05,050 --> 00:21:06,789
I think I would say he's calm down,

744
00:21:06,790 --> 00:21:08,199
I would say. I mean, I saw that

745
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,579
whole Action Bronson situation.

746
00:21:09,580 --> 00:21:11,619
Yeah. I would say go for calm down

747
00:21:11,620 --> 00:21:12,489
a lot.

748
00:21:12,490 --> 00:21:13,869
That was just funny.

749
00:21:13,870 --> 00:21:16,329
This is my third and final fake

750
00:21:16,330 --> 00:21:17,530
quiz crap

751
00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:21,879
- ah! What's wrong with me today?

752
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,129
Chris Webber apparently produced

753
00:21:24,130 --> 00:21:25,989
two songs for Nas,

754
00:21:25,990 --> 00:21:27,609
which was Blunt Ashes, which I

755
00:21:27,610 --> 00:21:29,919
believe is on The Lost Tapes album.

756
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,749
Yeah, and he produced survive in the

757
00:21:31,750 --> 00:21:33,699
times, which is

758
00:21:33,700 --> 00:21:35,589
on, I think, like the 10th

759
00:21:35,590 --> 00:21:38,529
anniversary of

760
00:21:38,530 --> 00:21:39,530
Illmatic.

761
00:21:40,210 --> 00:21:41,469
I believe I believe those on the

762
00:21:41,470 --> 00:21:42,429
10th anniversary Illmatic.

763
00:21:42,430 --> 00:21:44,349
But yeah, apparently Chris Webber,

764
00:21:44,350 --> 00:21:46,149
I knew he was into like producing

765
00:21:46,150 --> 00:21:47,979
music and I knew he,

766
00:21:47,980 --> 00:21:50,319
I guess, quote unquote rapped.

767
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:51,399
I've heard some raps from Chris

768
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,379
Webber don't look it up.

769
00:21:53,380 --> 00:21:54,879
So I'd say don't you don't want to

770
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:55,880
be disappointed.

771
00:21:57,310 --> 00:21:58,659
But, I knew those things.

772
00:21:58,660 --> 00:21:59,859
And he was saying he got the chance

773
00:21:59,860 --> 00:22:01,269
to work with Nas.

774
00:22:01,270 --> 00:22:03,189
He played some stuff in Nas and not

775
00:22:03,190 --> 00:22:05,139
ended up liking what he heard in

776
00:22:05,140 --> 00:22:06,789
those songs. Ended up becoming, as I

777
00:22:06,790 --> 00:22:08,799
said, Blunt Ashes and

778
00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:09,759
Surviving the Times.

779
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:10,599
Never knew that, though.

780
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,249
Never knew they were produced by

781
00:22:12,250 --> 00:22:14,169
Chris Webber, all star forward for

782
00:22:14,170 --> 00:22:16,059
the Sacramento Kings.

783
00:22:16,060 --> 00:22:17,060
No wonder they didn't win.

784
00:22:20,530 --> 00:22:21,530
Act like I didn't hear that

785
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,729
the next. The following year.

786
00:22:24,730 --> 00:22:25,809
When we found a fact, you said the

787
00:22:25,810 --> 00:22:26,589
same thing.

788
00:22:26,590 --> 00:22:28,239
Well, I say, oh, yeah.

789
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:29,589
I did say he had been focused on

790
00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:30,759
basketball. He would have won game

791
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:31,760
six.

792
00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,059
I would say it to his face, but I.

793
00:22:34,060 --> 00:22:35,829
Mean, no, Chris Webber like 16.

794
00:22:35,830 --> 00:22:36,729
I'm five. Seven.

795
00:22:36,730 --> 00:22:37,569
I'm like, yeah, I'm going from

796
00:22:37,570 --> 00:22:38,570
these.

797
00:22:39,190 --> 00:22:41,079
But, my final

798
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,209
fact is, so this movie is considered

799
00:22:43,210 --> 00:22:44,409
a classic. I don't think it's a

800
00:22:44,410 --> 00:22:46,299
classic Forrest Gump.

801
00:22:46,300 --> 00:22:47,199
Do you think it's a classic?

802
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,699
No. Why not?

803
00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:49,779
Well, because he's a wizard, and he

804
00:22:49,780 --> 00:22:51,309
was a part of every moment of

805
00:22:51,310 --> 00:22:52,310
American history? I don't want to see
that.

806
00:22:55,450 --> 00:22:56,709
You know, he sucked anyway.

807
00:22:56,710 --> 00:22:58,419
And I'm a huge Tom Hanks fan.

808
00:22:58,420 --> 00:22:59,949
The first person I've ever heard say

809
00:22:59,950 --> 00:23:01,539
that movie sucked.

810
00:23:01,540 --> 00:23:02,540
Mom didn't like it.

811
00:23:05,950 --> 00:23:07,599
I did think about that.

812
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,099
Anyway, everybody knows Forrest

813
00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:10,299
Gump. You know, he's like, I say,

814
00:23:10,300 --> 00:23:11,679
that magical wizard who goes to

815
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:12,680
every place at once throughout

816
00:23:13,570 --> 00:23:15,429
history, his best friend's

817
00:23:15,430 --> 00:23:16,389
name was what?

818
00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:17,799
Bubba?

819
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:18,929
Was played by a guy who.

820
00:23:18,930 --> 00:23:20,769
God, I can't say his name is,

821
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:23,960
Mick. Mick? Mick, you.

822
00:23:25,090 --> 00:23:26,799
I can't, I can't pronounce it

823
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:27,699
either. I can't.

824
00:23:27,700 --> 00:23:28,700
Here's a waiting exhale.

825
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,779
An idea with a lot of things.

826
00:23:31,780 --> 00:23:32,799
Yeah. He's awesome.

827
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:33,969
Black dynamite.

828
00:23:33,970 --> 00:23:35,169
He's the one that got beat up in the

829
00:23:35,170 --> 00:23:36,170
pool hall.

830
00:23:36,340 --> 00:23:38,349
Anyway, he played the character

831
00:23:38,350 --> 00:23:40,569
in Forest Gump, but Tupac

832
00:23:40,570 --> 00:23:41,949
auditioned to play Bubba Gump.

833
00:23:41,950 --> 00:23:42,779
What?

834
00:23:42,780 --> 00:23:43,780
Yeah.

835
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:48,309
Yeah, he. I think he got to the end

836
00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:49,279
of it.

837
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:50,529
I'm not getting it. Yeah.

838
00:23:50,530 --> 00:23:51,609
In another it. There's an alternate

839
00:23:51,610 --> 00:23:53,019
world out there where Tupac is Bubba

840
00:23:53,020 --> 00:23:55,539
Gump shrimp.

841
00:23:55,540 --> 00:23:57,540
With the swollen lip.

842
00:23:58,810 --> 00:23:59,709
Yeah, he had a.

843
00:23:59,710 --> 00:24:01,719
Little swollen man

844
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,919
look, usually before the gum.

845
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:03,849
You know what I'm talking about.

846
00:24:03,850 --> 00:24:05,679
Very, South in that

847
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:06,249
movie, right?

848
00:24:06,250 --> 00:24:08,169
Yeah, man, that's that's

849
00:24:08,170 --> 00:24:09,909
crazy. I mean, I know Tupac was in

850
00:24:09,910 --> 00:24:11,739
his acting, but

851
00:24:11,740 --> 00:24:13,089
I don't know if I could see Tupac

852
00:24:13,090 --> 00:24:14,319
doing that.

853
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,189
Maybe he would have said I didn't

854
00:24:15,190 --> 00:24:16,190
want the lips.

855
00:24:21,140 --> 00:24:22,249
Possibly. Possibly.

856
00:24:22,250 --> 00:24:23,449
But. But that was a good.

857
00:24:23,450 --> 00:24:24,769
I had no idea that.

858
00:24:24,770 --> 00:24:25,770
Yo, Tupac!

859
00:24:28,020 --> 00:24:30,019
Whoever was casting Anthony Mackie?

860
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,279
Yeah. they need to be fired.

861
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,019
Somebody cast him as Tupac and

862
00:24:36,020 --> 00:24:37,279
Martin Luther King Jr.

863
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,019
He wasn't too bad a Martin.

864
00:24:39,020 --> 00:24:40,020
He was a small one.

865
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,480
He didn't need to be Martin Luther
King Jr.

866
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,240
I saidMLK Jr. was like

867
00:24:46,460 --> 00:24:47,959
five, eight.

868
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,069
You know, he about six four.

869
00:24:50,820 --> 00:24:52,249
And now, ladies and gentlemen, it's

870
00:24:52,250 --> 00:24:53,809
time for unpopular opinion.

871
00:24:53,810 --> 00:24:55,459
Refresh himself.

872
00:24:55,460 --> 00:24:56,460
All right.

873
00:24:57,020 --> 00:24:58,609
The internet was kind of in a frenzy

874
00:24:58,610 --> 00:25:00,859
because rap ish

875
00:25:00,860 --> 00:25:02,899
that was created by Issa Rae, that.

876
00:25:02,900 --> 00:25:03,199
Got Canceled.

877
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,149
Got cancelled, based off of city

878
00:25:05,150 --> 00:25:06,150
girls.

879
00:25:07,190 --> 00:25:08,190
City girls canceled too?

880
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,609
I don't think so obviously they're

881
00:25:10,610 --> 00:25:11,269
no longer a group.

882
00:25:11,270 --> 00:25:12,199
Yeah, I think so, too.

883
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,969
But, it got canceled after its

884
00:25:13,970 --> 00:25:14,779
second season.

885
00:25:14,780 --> 00:25:16,999
A lot of people were in uproar.

886
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,069
And then the main reason everybody

887
00:25:19,070 --> 00:25:20,449
was pointing to why it got canceled

888
00:25:20,450 --> 00:25:21,559
was because not enough people were

889
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,969
watching.

890
00:25:22,970 --> 00:25:24,919
So that got me thinking.

891
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,839
You know, I think this is one

892
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,579
of those things where people are

893
00:25:28,580 --> 00:25:30,829
going to blame streaming services

894
00:25:30,830 --> 00:25:32,809
for shows being canceled

895
00:25:32,810 --> 00:25:35,239
and the viewership

896
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:36,229
not being there.

897
00:25:36,230 --> 00:25:38,239
So my unpopular opinion is

898
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,159
streaming services ruined

899
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,499
the consumer experience.

900
00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:44,179
And I say that because, like with a

901
00:25:44,180 --> 00:25:45,950
show like rap ish and.

902
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:48,569
A winning time show.

903
00:25:48,570 --> 00:25:49,889
Like Winning Time. It also was on

904
00:25:49,890 --> 00:25:50,890
Max.

905
00:25:51,570 --> 00:25:52,949
It came out that Winning Time was

906
00:25:52,950 --> 00:25:54,779
canceled because it didn't have the

907
00:25:54,780 --> 00:25:56,849
viewership that I guess, and

908
00:25:56,850 --> 00:25:58,709
HBO was anticipating.

909
00:25:58,710 --> 00:25:59,983
And I think that's because of

910
00:25:59,984 --> 00:26:01,109
streaming services, I think that's
because

911
00:26:01,110 --> 00:26:02,159
people look at it like, well, I

912
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:04,109
don't have to watch this on Sunday

913
00:26:04,110 --> 00:26:04,979
night.

914
00:26:04,980 --> 00:26:06,869
I can just wait until

915
00:26:06,870 --> 00:26:08,249
all just watch it on the app when I

916
00:26:08,250 --> 00:26:10,289
feel like it, or just sit back and

917
00:26:10,290 --> 00:26:12,059
let every episode play, and then I

918
00:26:12,060 --> 00:26:14,039
just binge it and I

919
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,269
could just do that, which I hear

920
00:26:15,270 --> 00:26:16,529
people do with a lot of show, like,

921
00:26:16,530 --> 00:26:18,179
you know, I just let the season

922
00:26:18,180 --> 00:26:19,439
finish off and something else to

923
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,179
watch or do, and then I just come

924
00:26:21,180 --> 00:26:22,589
back to the show and just stream it

925
00:26:22,590 --> 00:26:23,729
all at once. I don't want to have to

926
00:26:23,730 --> 00:26:24,730
wait week to week,

927
00:26:25,650 --> 00:26:27,539
but for those, I

928
00:26:27,540 --> 00:26:29,489
would say that's a privilege in this

929
00:26:29,490 --> 00:26:30,689
day and time, because there was a

930
00:26:30,690 --> 00:26:32,489
time where you had to just wait till

931
00:26:32,490 --> 00:26:34,109
the next week and anticipate what

932
00:26:34,110 --> 00:26:35,699
was going on, and if the season

933
00:26:35,700 --> 00:26:37,649
ended up on a cliffhanger, you had

934
00:26:37,650 --> 00:26:39,539
to wait X amount of months

935
00:26:39,540 --> 00:26:40,619
before you saw it.

936
00:26:40,620 --> 00:26:42,659
And I saw people complaining like,

937
00:26:42,660 --> 00:26:44,519
oh man, you know, they're

938
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:45,869
taking away from TV because they

939
00:26:45,870 --> 00:26:48,029
just pushing this stuff out and

940
00:26:48,030 --> 00:26:49,769
shooting shows and movies out so

941
00:26:49,770 --> 00:26:51,389
quickly now, you know, that's just

942
00:26:51,390 --> 00:26:52,619
ruins everything when I was like

943
00:26:52,620 --> 00:26:54,569
that. But I would say the same

944
00:26:54,570 --> 00:26:56,849
about the same amount of time is

945
00:26:56,850 --> 00:26:58,859
going by that it was, say,

946
00:26:58,860 --> 00:27:00,809
in the 90s or even the early 2000s

947
00:27:00,810 --> 00:27:02,189
before streaming hit.

948
00:27:02,190 --> 00:27:04,319
Like if a show was part of

949
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,999
a network's fall lineup.

950
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,649
You had to wait till next fall for

951
00:27:07,650 --> 00:27:09,569
that to come back around to see the

952
00:27:09,570 --> 00:27:10,499
next season.

953
00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:12,179
Like, that's just how it works.

954
00:27:12,180 --> 00:27:14,039
Nobody like one show isn't a part

955
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,439
of the spring lineup, and then

956
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,549
you going to catch it the next

957
00:27:17,550 --> 00:27:18,449
season and fall out.

958
00:27:18,450 --> 00:27:21,059
It was don't go like that.

959
00:27:21,060 --> 00:27:22,060
But I think,

960
00:27:23,220 --> 00:27:25,349
the fact that people have become

961
00:27:25,350 --> 00:27:27,209
slaves to the binge to

962
00:27:27,210 --> 00:27:28,769
binge watching, I think that has

963
00:27:28,770 --> 00:27:30,719
kind of ruined the experience

964
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:32,279
for the consumer because nobody is

965
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,719
like, you don't go see a movie

966
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,639
because you're just like, I wait for

967
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,479
it to hit streaming services.

968
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,069
It's going to hit a Netflix or

969
00:27:38,070 --> 00:27:40,229
Amazon Prime or Apple

970
00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:42,059
TV+ or somebody at some

971
00:27:42,060 --> 00:27:43,259
point, and it'll be out in the next

972
00:27:43,260 --> 00:27:44,459
few months, because movies don't

973
00:27:44,460 --> 00:27:45,779
stay in theaters as long as they

974
00:27:45,780 --> 00:27:46,780
used to. At all.

975
00:27:47,370 --> 00:27:48,659
And I'm like, they like some movies.

976
00:27:48,660 --> 00:27:50,339
I like, I just I'm not going to go

977
00:27:50,340 --> 00:27:51,659
pay to see that. I never would have

978
00:27:51,660 --> 00:27:52,979
it. That'll be on HBO Max.

979
00:27:52,980 --> 00:27:53,879
It's a Warner Brothers movie.

980
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:54,880
It'll be on Max.

981
00:27:55,740 --> 00:27:57,959
And so I did like Barbie.

982
00:27:57,960 --> 00:27:59,879
I didn't really plan

983
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,079
on going to see Barbie, so I was

984
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,489
just like, that's definitely going

985
00:28:02,490 --> 00:28:03,779
to be on Max. I'll just wait to be

986
00:28:03,780 --> 00:28:04,589
four to be on Max.

987
00:28:04,590 --> 00:28:06,509
And I've seen it now because it's on

988
00:28:06,510 --> 00:28:08,579
HBO, it's on Max now.

989
00:28:08,580 --> 00:28:10,289
But I think that has taken away from

990
00:28:10,290 --> 00:28:12,209
people wanting to get up

991
00:28:12,210 --> 00:28:13,709
and go to the movie theaters or that

992
00:28:13,710 --> 00:28:15,749
whole thing when they simultaneously

993
00:28:15,750 --> 00:28:17,639
premiere movie in theaters and

994
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,499
on the streaming service at the same

995
00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:20,369
time. I don't get that.

996
00:28:20,370 --> 00:28:21,689
I don't understand it. It sounds

997
00:28:21,690 --> 00:28:23,189
like you're killing one of your

998
00:28:23,190 --> 00:28:25,259
revenue streams, but I but

999
00:28:25,260 --> 00:28:26,789
when it comes to like TV shows, I

1000
00:28:26,790 --> 00:28:28,589
think it has taken away the

1001
00:28:28,590 --> 00:28:30,809
experience of sitting down, enjoying

1002
00:28:30,810 --> 00:28:32,639
it, the anticipation of what

1003
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,619
happens next week when

1004
00:28:34,620 --> 00:28:36,839
you can just like I just wait until

1005
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,819
this, this passes and

1006
00:28:38,820 --> 00:28:40,739
I'll sit down and watch everything.

1007
00:28:40,740 --> 00:28:42,059
Now, there are exceptions to the

1008
00:28:42,060 --> 00:28:43,079
rule and.

1009
00:28:44,300 --> 00:28:45,799
I'll say it, it's power.

1010
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,929
People stream power.

1011
00:28:47,930 --> 00:28:49,669
When eight people watch power before

1012
00:28:49,670 --> 00:28:51,769
you come out and

1013
00:28:51,770 --> 00:28:52,999
start as this weird thing where they

1014
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,159
drop the episode at midnight so

1015
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:56,719
before it even airs on television.

1016
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,759
So you've already watched it, but it

1017
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,409
seems to be continuously getting the

1018
00:29:00,410 --> 00:29:02,059
viewership that.

1019
00:29:03,260 --> 00:29:05,239
It needs to on for

1020
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:06,679
people watching stars.

1021
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:08,509
But a show like rap ish,

1022
00:29:08,510 --> 00:29:09,979
where people that seem to like

1023
00:29:09,980 --> 00:29:11,179
really like the show and we're

1024
00:29:11,180 --> 00:29:13,759
really excited about the show,

1025
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,109
it didn't get the viewership, and I

1026
00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:17,119
think that was partially due to

1027
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,039
streaming. Y'all liked

1028
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:20,539
it, but what days did it come out

1029
00:29:20,540 --> 00:29:21,609
on? Wednesday?

1030
00:29:21,610 --> 00:29:23,239
Yeah. Y'all didn't like it enough to

1031
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:24,799
sit down on Wednesday or you were

1032
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:25,669
watching something else on

1033
00:29:25,670 --> 00:29:27,049
Wednesday. They took priority over

1034
00:29:27,050 --> 00:29:28,699
that and you were like, I'll just

1035
00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:30,049
watch this on the app.

1036
00:29:30,050 --> 00:29:32,299
Like, I can just cast it to my TV

1037
00:29:32,300 --> 00:29:34,069
or I can log on to my account and I

1038
00:29:34,070 --> 00:29:35,329
could just watch it there.

1039
00:29:35,330 --> 00:29:37,219
And I think that hurts the

1040
00:29:37,220 --> 00:29:38,059
viewership.

1041
00:29:38,060 --> 00:29:40,069
I'll be honest, I don't know how

1042
00:29:40,070 --> 00:29:41,539
watching something on the streaming

1043
00:29:41,540 --> 00:29:43,999
service for like a max

1044
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,829
account for the

1045
00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:47,269
viewership from television.

1046
00:29:47,270 --> 00:29:49,339
I don't know how that works, but

1047
00:29:49,340 --> 00:29:50,449
clearly not enough of y'all was

1048
00:29:50,450 --> 00:29:52,009
watching the show, either.

1049
00:29:52,010 --> 00:29:53,463
Or you would stick around and the

1050
00:29:53,464 --> 00:29:54,259
same with winning time. Which I

1051
00:29:54,260 --> 00:29:55,279
really was disappointed about

1052
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:56,059
winning time because.

1053
00:29:56,060 --> 00:29:57,079
Especially out and.

1054
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,119
Yeah, that was that was trash

1055
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:00,679
HBO y'all gotta do better endings,

1056
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,389
man. I don't know what it is with

1057
00:30:02,390 --> 00:30:04,219
y'all, but like, yeah,

1058
00:30:04,220 --> 00:30:06,829
it was this whole uproar about how,

1059
00:30:06,830 --> 00:30:08,539
you know, the great shows get

1060
00:30:08,540 --> 00:30:10,369
canceled before they time.

1061
00:30:10,370 --> 00:30:12,199
And you know, y'all not really

1062
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:13,429
watching the y'all not watching

1063
00:30:13,430 --> 00:30:14,869
these shows. And y'all say y'all

1064
00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:16,069
want great television.

1065
00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:17,329
Y'all want great television with

1066
00:30:17,330 --> 00:30:18,709
Black people in a job not sitting

1067
00:30:18,710 --> 00:30:19,789
down and watching it. I don't

1068
00:30:19,790 --> 00:30:20,929
believe y'all are sitting down

1069
00:30:20,930 --> 00:30:22,339
watching it when it airs.

1070
00:30:22,340 --> 00:30:24,229
And I think that matters a little

1071
00:30:24,230 --> 00:30:26,029
more. I could be totally wrong, but

1072
00:30:26,030 --> 00:30:27,679
yeah, I think streaming has kind of

1073
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,149
taken out the anticipation of

1074
00:30:29,150 --> 00:30:31,039
waiting for the next

1075
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:32,719
week when you can just let the

1076
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,339
entire season play out and not watch

1077
00:30:34,340 --> 00:30:36,229
it and just come back to it

1078
00:30:36,230 --> 00:30:37,159
when I feel like.

1079
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:38,989
And I think that at the end of the

1080
00:30:38,990 --> 00:30:40,279
day is hard because like I said, I

1081
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:41,280
don't know how.

1082
00:30:42,180 --> 00:30:44,309
Streaming. It is accounting for

1083
00:30:44,310 --> 00:30:46,589
the viewership and I feel myself

1084
00:30:46,590 --> 00:30:47,369
being repetitive.

1085
00:30:47,370 --> 00:30:49,389
So we'll end it right here.

1086
00:30:49,390 --> 00:30:50,369
Yeah, I agree with that one.

1087
00:30:50,370 --> 00:30:52,229
I had a take about music too, but

1088
00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:53,309
I would have extended things.

1089
00:30:53,310 --> 00:30:55,589
Like even with rabbit ish.

1090
00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:56,909
I feel like I saw more tweets about

1091
00:30:56,910 --> 00:30:57,839
it being canceled than I thought

1092
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:58,840
when it was on.

1093
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,199
So I do think viewership play, but

1094
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,519
no, I do think the consumer

1095
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,529
experience has changed because

1096
00:31:04,530 --> 00:31:05,609
the expectations lower.

1097
00:31:05,610 --> 00:31:06,689
So yeah, I agree.

1098
00:31:06,690 --> 00:31:08,729
Yeah. And I'll say it isn't get out.

1099
00:31:09,780 --> 00:31:11,009
Rap ish.

1100
00:31:11,010 --> 00:31:12,449
But like you see more tweets about

1101
00:31:12,450 --> 00:31:13,259
it being canceled in.

1102
00:31:13,260 --> 00:31:15,239
I saw about it when it was

1103
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,979
on or when people were watching it.

1104
00:31:16,980 --> 00:31:19,259
And for this to be an ESA ratio

1105
00:31:19,260 --> 00:31:20,789
and where y'all rock with ether.

1106
00:31:20,790 --> 00:31:22,049
I didn't see y'all live tweeting the

1107
00:31:22,050 --> 00:31:23,519
way I did. Insecure.

1108
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,049
Like insecure came on.

1109
00:31:25,050 --> 00:31:26,429
It was a thing to sit down and

1110
00:31:26,430 --> 00:31:28,319
watch. Let's all, as a community

1111
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,789
get online and watch this together.

1112
00:31:29,790 --> 00:31:31,289
I didn't see that with rap.

1113
00:31:31,290 --> 00:31:32,429
I didn't see that in the first

1114
00:31:32,430 --> 00:31:34,139
season and I didn't see it this

1115
00:31:34,140 --> 00:31:35,549
season. I saw y'all be in uproar

1116
00:31:35,550 --> 00:31:37,979
about the ending of season two,

1117
00:31:37,980 --> 00:31:39,419
but outside of that, I didn't hear

1118
00:31:39,420 --> 00:31:41,189
y'all talking about anything else

1119
00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:42,029
about this show.

1120
00:31:42,030 --> 00:31:43,589
So, I mean, were y'all really

1121
00:31:43,590 --> 00:31:44,590
watching it?

1122
00:31:45,870 --> 00:31:47,699
And now let's get

1123
00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:49,679
informed and laugh all at the same

1124
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,719
time. Here is Confucius

1125
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,369
reads the news.

1126
00:31:53,370 --> 00:31:55,139
Started off the Comedy Central's

1127
00:31:55,140 --> 00:31:55,919
flagship show.

1128
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,869
The Daily Show has been without

1129
00:31:57,870 --> 00:31:59,609
a host. As Trevor Noah left, there's

1130
00:31:59,610 --> 00:32:01,679
been a rotating cast of people

1131
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,539
from Charlamagne Tha God to

1132
00:32:03,540 --> 00:32:04,829
World, which junior was hosting.

1133
00:32:04,830 --> 00:32:06,779
It was that lady that dated a

1134
00:32:06,780 --> 00:32:07,859
50 cent white lady.

1135
00:32:09,180 --> 00:32:10,349
Chelsea Handler.

1136
00:32:10,350 --> 00:32:12,209
Chelsea Handler, she did it.

1137
00:32:12,210 --> 00:32:13,499
I didn't see hers.

1138
00:32:13,500 --> 00:32:14,519
Just for like a week or two.

1139
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,949
And then I saw Marlon Wayans.

1140
00:32:16,950 --> 00:32:18,959
And so now

1141
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,879
they finally found a host

1142
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,889
and is none other than Jon Stewart,

1143
00:32:22,890 --> 00:32:23,890
who?

1144
00:32:24,330 --> 00:32:26,429
The guy who ran it for 16 years and

1145
00:32:26,430 --> 00:32:27,659
yeah, made it become a powerhouse

1146
00:32:27,660 --> 00:32:29,099
that he is now that he had a host

1147
00:32:29,100 --> 00:32:31,199
before that with, Craig Kilborn.

1148
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,549
There you go.

1149
00:32:32,550 --> 00:32:33,809
And he didn't really go that far,

1150
00:32:33,810 --> 00:32:35,459
but Jon Stewart made it, groomed it

1151
00:32:35,460 --> 00:32:36,419
to come show that it is.

1152
00:32:36,420 --> 00:32:38,099
So he's coming back.

1153
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:39,179
Leading up to the presidential

1154
00:32:39,180 --> 00:32:40,529
election this year.

1155
00:32:40,530 --> 00:32:42,419
He's only can be on a Mondays, but

1156
00:32:42,420 --> 00:32:43,589
every other day will be a rotating

1157
00:32:43,590 --> 00:32:44,789
cast of the comedians that are on

1158
00:32:44,790 --> 00:32:45,790
the show.

1159
00:32:46,230 --> 00:32:47,159
So I think it'd be dope.

1160
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:48,659
I think people want to see Jon back

1161
00:32:48,660 --> 00:32:49,660
in it.

1162
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:50,849
I also think they gave him a whole

1163
00:32:50,850 --> 00:32:51,359
lot of.

1164
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:52,319
I definitely think they gave him a

1165
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:52,979
whole lot of money.

1166
00:32:52,980 --> 00:32:54,299
Because he was he had to show an

1167
00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:55,769
apple, but apparently left there

1168
00:32:55,770 --> 00:32:57,089
because.

1169
00:32:57,090 --> 00:32:58,319
The bag was right.

1170
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,519
Here. Now, because he was trying to

1171
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:00,439
talk about something on the show.

1172
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,440
They told him no.

1173
00:33:02,820 --> 00:33:04,289
So he's like, I'm out not doing it.

1174
00:33:04,290 --> 00:33:05,179
Not I'm not.

1175
00:33:05,180 --> 00:33:06,399
I'm not mad at it.

1176
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:07,400
I made that stance.

1177
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,079
So back in New Hampshire, they had

1178
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:10,919
their primaries.

1179
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,439
And Trump, of course, came in first.

1180
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:16,019
But Nikki Haley got over 40%

1181
00:33:16,020 --> 00:33:17,669
of the vote out there as well.

1182
00:33:17,670 --> 00:33:18,719
And that was a way higher number

1183
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,339
than pundits predicted she would

1184
00:33:20,340 --> 00:33:20,579
get.

1185
00:33:20,580 --> 00:33:21,689
I'm very sure what.

1186
00:33:21,690 --> 00:33:23,009
I'm telling you is going to be Nikki

1187
00:33:23,010 --> 00:33:24,569
Haley and Joe Biden in November.

1188
00:33:24,570 --> 00:33:26,669
I wouldn't be shocked if it's her.

1189
00:33:26,670 --> 00:33:28,589
She said she's not dropping out.

1190
00:33:28,590 --> 00:33:30,599
Good for her. Ron DeSantis also said

1191
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:31,169
that.

1192
00:33:31,170 --> 00:33:32,489
And he already bend the knee.

1193
00:33:32,490 --> 00:33:33,599
Already bend the knee.

1194
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:34,650
Got to bend the knee, man.

1195
00:33:35,670 --> 00:33:37,559
I saw a video of Tim Scott

1196
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:38,849
and Vivek Ramaswamy.

1197
00:33:40,230 --> 00:33:42,539
At Trump side of the rally and,

1198
00:33:42,540 --> 00:33:43,439
was again looking like their

1199
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,910
obedient servants. They, and,

1200
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,789
Senator Tim Scott said,

1201
00:33:47,790 --> 00:33:49,289
he told Trump he loved most aid.

1202
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,409
oh my God.

1203
00:33:52,410 --> 00:33:53,669
You think there's, like, an
agreement?

1204
00:33:54,820 --> 00:33:56,009
You think Trump make him sign an

1205
00:33:56,010 --> 00:33:56,939
agreement to say that.

1206
00:33:56,940 --> 00:33:58,769
I don't know what he does, man.

1207
00:33:58,770 --> 00:34:00,150
I don't know what he does, but

1208
00:34:01,230 --> 00:34:03,269
man. So yeah,

1209
00:34:03,270 --> 00:34:04,679
we'll see. I mean, Nikki Haley got a

1210
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:05,680
lot of momentum.

1211
00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:08,249
Clearly 40 over 40%

1212
00:34:08,250 --> 00:34:09,448
in the New Hampshire primary moving

1213
00:34:09,449 --> 00:34:10,499
forward. Yeah, man.

1214
00:34:10,500 --> 00:34:11,698
She could yeah.

1215
00:34:11,699 --> 00:34:12,699
She's a threat.

1216
00:34:13,650 --> 00:34:15,020
The Oscar nominations came out.

1217
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,698
I thought out in a frenzy about

1218
00:34:17,699 --> 00:34:18,448
that, too.

1219
00:34:18,449 --> 00:34:20,488
Yeah, it goes to Barbie,

1220
00:34:20,489 --> 00:34:22,319
the director Greta Gerwig.

1221
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,089
Gerwig didn't get nominated for best

1222
00:34:24,090 --> 00:34:24,539
director.

1223
00:34:24,540 --> 00:34:26,158
And Margot Robbie wasn't.

1224
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:27,329
Nominated for Best Actress.

1225
00:34:27,330 --> 00:34:29,069
But Ryan Gosling was nominated for

1226
00:34:29,070 --> 00:34:30,119
Best Supporting Actor.

1227
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:30,779
Which is kind.

1228
00:34:30,780 --> 00:34:32,638
Of and kind of what

1229
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:34,109
happened in a movie, basically.

1230
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,559
But to be fair, the movie

1231
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,709
was painted it, of course, that men

1232
00:34:40,710 --> 00:34:42,629
were admittedly superior in

1233
00:34:42,630 --> 00:34:44,609
a position they should be

1234
00:34:44,610 --> 00:34:46,019
Ryan Gosling, very much where the

1235
00:34:46,020 --> 00:34:47,399
yeah, this is kind of fair.

1236
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,299
So you got he came out with a

1237
00:34:48,300 --> 00:34:49,379
statement.

1238
00:34:49,380 --> 00:34:50,579
And he's been in the business long

1239
00:34:50,580 --> 00:34:50,939
enough.

1240
00:34:50,940 --> 00:34:52,259
Yeah. He's basically saying that he

1241
00:34:52,260 --> 00:34:53,129
that the movie wouldn't have been

1242
00:34:53,130 --> 00:34:54,448
what it was. America Ferrera who was

1243
00:34:54,449 --> 00:34:56,309
in the movie got nominated.

1244
00:34:56,310 --> 00:34:57,929
Which I didn't see enough people

1245
00:34:57,930 --> 00:34:59,009
like championing that.

1246
00:34:59,010 --> 00:35:00,809
But, I guess I'll still made that.

1247
00:35:00,810 --> 00:35:02,069
She don't take backs like that.

1248
00:35:02,070 --> 00:35:03,509
I don't know.

1249
00:35:03,510 --> 00:35:04,439
Do you bathe?

1250
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,329
Oh, she's a hit that she on bathe

1251
00:35:06,330 --> 00:35:07,330
every day.

1252
00:35:08,820 --> 00:35:10,079
But.

1253
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:11,339
Look, man, we reported the news,

1254
00:35:11,340 --> 00:35:12,390
right? That was in the news.

1255
00:35:13,590 --> 00:35:14,909
We're reporting news, right?

1256
00:35:16,650 --> 00:35:18,179
It's a while since now, but I do

1257
00:35:18,180 --> 00:35:18,959
think that's unfair.

1258
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:20,969
Barbie was a critically acclaimed

1259
00:35:20,970 --> 00:35:22,949
movie. Yeah, and Oppenheimer

1260
00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:25,049
got, I think, the most nominations

1261
00:35:25,050 --> 00:35:26,189
yet for this year.

1262
00:35:26,190 --> 00:35:27,629
Shocking.

1263
00:35:27,630 --> 00:35:29,669
Robert Downey Jr is nominated.

1264
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:31,230
I mean, shout out to RJ, but.

1265
00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:33,309
Have you seen happen?

1266
00:35:33,310 --> 00:35:34,419
No. I've seen.

1267
00:35:34,420 --> 00:35:36,429
You probably won't be honest

1268
00:35:36,430 --> 00:35:37,289
with you like Chris.

1269
00:35:37,290 --> 00:35:37,809
No.

1270
00:35:37,810 --> 00:35:39,159
I like Christopher Nolan, but I'm

1271
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:40,989
just tired of. I'm tired

1272
00:35:40,990 --> 00:35:41,990
of movies.

1273
00:35:43,070 --> 00:35:45,199
That are built around World

1274
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,119
War One or World War Two, and

1275
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,349
there's no Black people in them

1276
00:35:48,350 --> 00:35:49,669
because they act like we were not in

1277
00:35:49,670 --> 00:35:50,670
those wars.

1278
00:35:52,020 --> 00:35:53,519
So I don't really need to see

1279
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:55,589
another movie about the nuclear bomb

1280
00:35:55,590 --> 00:35:57,449
Hmhm Bay.

1281
00:35:57,450 --> 00:35:58,439
I want to see it.

1282
00:35:58,440 --> 00:35:59,519
I'll go right here, man.

1283
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,259
Let me know, how was.

1284
00:36:01,260 --> 00:36:03,719
Drama in God of the Breakfast Club?

1285
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:05,219
Famous radio personality.

1286
00:36:05,220 --> 00:36:06,839
I think, you know, he's in the Radio

1287
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,389
Hall of Fame. So, Breakfast Club

1288
00:36:09,390 --> 00:36:10,619
goals and.

1289
00:36:12,350 --> 00:36:14,059
He has been very vocal about

1290
00:36:14,060 --> 00:36:15,919
President Joe Biden not running

1291
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,229
again.

1292
00:36:17,230 --> 00:36:18,109
I've read the article that was in

1293
00:36:18,110 --> 00:36:19,669
Politico, and it was Charlamagne was

1294
00:36:19,670 --> 00:36:20,929
trying to justify it by saying that

1295
00:36:20,930 --> 00:36:22,819
he feels like Biden hasn't

1296
00:36:22,820 --> 00:36:25,219
lived up to any of his promises,

1297
00:36:25,220 --> 00:36:27,329
and that

1298
00:36:27,330 --> 00:36:28,819
Democrats are being lazy by not

1299
00:36:28,820 --> 00:36:30,829
trying to find an alternative.

1300
00:36:30,830 --> 00:36:31,849
Not the biggest fan of that

1301
00:36:31,850 --> 00:36:33,199
rhetoric, not because I'm a Joe

1302
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,059
Biden supporter, but

1303
00:36:35,060 --> 00:36:38,029
because Charlamagne is

1304
00:36:38,030 --> 00:36:39,889
not the most qualified person, in

1305
00:36:39,890 --> 00:36:41,629
my opinion, to take such a strong

1306
00:36:41,630 --> 00:36:43,489
stance in politics.

1307
00:36:43,490 --> 00:36:45,859
I think for him, because he's now

1308
00:36:45,860 --> 00:36:47,029
jumped into that world through The

1309
00:36:47,030 --> 00:36:49,039
Daily Show, he started

1310
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,479
to try to get into that Jon Stewart

1311
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,619
lane, but I don't think that's his

1312
00:36:51,620 --> 00:36:53,389
angle. It's like how stern is

1313
00:36:53,390 --> 00:36:55,849
political but not super political.

1314
00:36:55,850 --> 00:36:56,809
I also think it's dangerous too,

1315
00:36:56,810 --> 00:36:59,269
because you all means comments and

1316
00:36:59,270 --> 00:37:01,129
audience tends to go run to

1317
00:37:01,130 --> 00:37:03,169
the Shade Room or Hollywood

1318
00:37:03,170 --> 00:37:04,249
like all those places, and they

1319
00:37:04,250 --> 00:37:06,169
bash, you know, President Biden

1320
00:37:06,170 --> 00:37:07,249
every chance they get.

1321
00:37:07,250 --> 00:37:09,589
Look, man, I know Biden

1322
00:37:09,590 --> 00:37:11,030
said he clearing off student debt.

1323
00:37:12,050 --> 00:37:13,729
It's clear that a lot of it.

1324
00:37:13,730 --> 00:37:15,379
He cleared that student debt, man.

1325
00:37:15,380 --> 00:37:16,380
So yeah.

1326
00:37:17,540 --> 00:37:18,709
Charlemagne made the point of two

1327
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:20,809
that Biden is just not a showman

1328
00:37:20,810 --> 00:37:23,689
like Trump is like, you know, Trump

1329
00:37:23,690 --> 00:37:24,739
takes credit for things that he

1330
00:37:24,740 --> 00:37:25,839
didn't do.

1331
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,379
And Biden keeps quiet about things,

1332
00:37:27,380 --> 00:37:28,380
you know. So.

1333
00:37:29,230 --> 00:37:30,489
I mean, but that's a personality

1334
00:37:30,490 --> 00:37:32,589
trait that ain't like a presidential

1335
00:37:32,590 --> 00:37:34,449
trait. And yeah, this is Biden

1336
00:37:34,450 --> 00:37:35,389
is not that guy.

1337
00:37:35,390 --> 00:37:36,849
So I mean, he's not the guy to just

1338
00:37:36,850 --> 00:37:38,019
jump and say, well, I did this and

1339
00:37:38,020 --> 00:37:39,459
this and this. He's he's he's not

1340
00:37:39,460 --> 00:37:40,929
we've had many presidents like that.

1341
00:37:40,930 --> 00:37:41,469
Yeah.

1342
00:37:41,470 --> 00:37:43,959
Rex Clinton was like that.

1343
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,460
Slick Willie strikes again.

1344
00:37:49,660 --> 00:37:50,739
You know what. Yeah. That's Confucius

1345
00:37:50,740 --> 00:37:51,740
reason to.

1346
00:37:52,720 --> 00:37:53,809
Oh. Right.

1347
00:37:53,810 --> 00:37:55,479
I don't know why you threw it in.

1348
00:38:00,390 --> 00:38:00,402
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1349
00:38:00,403 --> 00:38:00,414
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1350
00:38:00,415 --> 00:38:00,427
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1351
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1352
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