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I was doing some research for the
show, and I
ran across an article that had a
picture of J.
Cole, and I forgot what the article was
about but J.Cole was in it.
And, it's one of those early
pictures between sideline stories.
What was the second one?
Born center, born center where he
was kind of finally focusing
more on like trying to really become
the artist he wanted to be.
And I remember when
he had that song was "I Failed Nas"?
Let Nas Down.
And I got to thinking it's J.
Cole like the Nas of the generation.
And I say that to say Nas.
While he's been regarded as one of
the top rappers of his time.
What he was like, really, really
going.
He couldn't get past kind of Jay-Z
in a way.
So I would say that J. Cole is the
Nas to Drake's Jay-Z.
That's one,
but also him rapping at such a high
level that it kind of doesn't
matter. You don't really see it as
much. So.
I don't know, is J.
Cole the Nas of this generation?
I think most people would agree with
that. I think that's kind of being
the label that has been tagged with
J. Cole since making the song, Let
Nas Down.
I think they kind of put things
into perspective
for a lot of people when it comes to
like, I guess, musical comparisons,
that he is this generation's
Nas and like you said, he
would be the Nas to
Drakes being Jay-Z,
aside from them not beefing with
each other.
Yeah, I think there's a
lot of similarities to both
Cole and Nas.
They take a more, I will say,
of an artistic approach
to making music in wanting
or at least wanting, having
something to say.
Most people will say, and
some people will say both of them
are boring at times.
Jay and Nas?
No, Nas and J Cole.
Yeah, yeah.
I think most as the knock on J holds
that, you know, his music is good
for cleaning and I and I think to
myself, I listen to a lot of
a lot of stuff while cleaning
doesn't make it boring, but alright,
but not going to admit that he is
boring. I've heard people say Nas is
kind of eh.
Yeah, I think too, it's they both
exist in this place of.
Hip hop superiority in a good way.
Like you can say J.Cole music is
cleaning music, but you're not going to
say he can't rap, right?
Same thing with Nas.
Like people might say, well, I like
Jay-Z better, but nobody's going to
say Nas can rap.
So they both exist in that space.
Also, Nas has way more albums
than J. Cole currently Nas has
16 and J.
Cole has seven.
Take granted, J. Cole hasn't been
around as long. And also Nas has
been on a tear for sure for sure
last few years. There you see J.
Cole doing something like that at
some point.
I think the his equivalent of that
is what he's doing now with
features, how he just jumps on
every song and just been
on a tear since like 2018.
Yeah.
Very true.
I will look at it like that.
I mean.
Did Nas have a run like that at some
point? Where he just like went
did a bunch of features.
I don't think so not that I
remember. Not that I can recall
that he just was on this tear of
features.
He has some great features, but I
don't remember like one coming after
the other for like
what, six years straight?
Yeah. No.
Yeah though I mean but yeah,
Cole is definitely the Nas
of his generation while being signed
by Jay-Z, I think the song let Nas
down and kind of let it be known
that, like I kind of look up more
to Nas like I'm
looking more for his approval than
I am for Jay's approval.
Even though I'm saying to him I'm
looking for Jay's approval because
I'm signed to him and I want to get
my music out. But
when I put it out, I want Nas
to feel a way about this.
Like I want him to be a fan of me
the way I was a fan of him.
So like, yeah.
And he felt bad. I think he did.
I forgot what song it was, that Nas
said like, "Yeah, that was trash.
You shouldn't did that." But Cole
was also like, but you may, you owe
me. I thought you would, like,
really understand about putting
out a song you didn't remember.
If he says it in the song,
in Let Nas Down.
So I think.
Oh, the only the only Mr..
Yeah, I remember that story.
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.
It was a nice.
Let me. You owe me.
You should really understand why a
lot of people do a lot of things.
So you know what we're
talking about. You owe me.
But I've seen him perform at shows.
I think you told me that he performs
at a show. That I'm shocked.
Cause annually I look
at.
You owe me the way I look at
sunshine for Jay-Z.
Like, yeah, you know, it's in the
catalog. Well, I don't really see
those guys wanting to perform that,
but if not, they're doing it.
Hey man, Go Off
Maybe is a bigger song than I
thought. I don't know.
I like sunshine.
Sunshine was definitely a bigger
song than I thought it was.
I mean, most people know sunshine.
And yeah, I know, I mean, he
never performed, but, you know,
does J.Cole still perform
stuff from his first album?
I don't think so.
Maybe, was the joint with Missy
Elliott.
Nobody's perfect.
Yeah, I think that's the only one.
You definitely do it. I can't get
enough.
No, I think that's the only song
that I know of that he might
still perform.
Other than that, no.
I'm pretty sure Nas does most of his
catalog. He's not - he's going to do
he's going to do you know stuff off
Illmatic.
He probably does not.
I don't know by Nostradamus I.
Don't know if he performs
Nostradamus, but he might perform
something off of that album in Black
Girl. Out on that album.
Yes. He I think he performed with
Black Girls.
And Jake over here.
And and you owe me.
Was on you. You said he.
He's running around performing You
owe me so.
Oh,
but, yeah, I do think J.
Cole appears more than us than
any of the artists of this era.
No, I would say the only thing to is
between the Nas
to Jay-Z and Drake to
J. Cole.
Is that Drake is a much bigger
artist than everybody.
There was a time with Jay and I were
kind of neck and neck.
But I mean, everybody knows nobody
touches Drake.
So yeah, I
think that will be the only thing
that kind of the
difference in the comparison is,
like you said, Drake is just when
it comes to rap, especially Drake
is the biggest in the room.
But as we
said, when it's all said and done,
Drake will probably surpass and be
considered the greatest of all time,
but I don't think Cole will be far
behind. If not, the argument
will continue about him being
better and throwing Kendrick in
there somewhere.
Yeah, no, I think Old Legacy is
submented.
I don't think it's much more than he
needs to do to
prove what he is.
But like say he gets on his features
though, and then it's like he's
like, I think think was on the song.
Right. But he even Drake's thing is
Drake is just if you compare
to Jay-Z at this point in time, he's
way past that.
Drake is a huge international.
Jay-Z is kind of international for
the most part. But.
I mean, I would say he I believe
he can do his show overseas and it'd
be a successful show.
And people overseas know who Jay-Z
is and know the music, but I don't
think he's as big
international wise as Drake is.
You obviously go by the same way.
Considering Jay-Z doesn't really put
out music like that either, though.
Yeah, I think he goes on world tours
like that. Yeah.
So how do
you feel about the hip
hop and R&B scene as it stands
right now.
As it stands right now?
The hip hop and R&B scene
in Austin is, I
will say, thriving.
We both talked about that last week.
It's going in a great direction.
It's trending upward, is trending
upward.
Now, on the flip side of that, what
are some things you think kind of
hinder it from going a little bit
faster?
Management.
Oh we're like on the price is the
right; the word here is.
I agree.
In your experience, some shows we've
put on and all we deal with are even
trying to get interviews up here or
whatever.
Is it sometimes harder
for Austin artists
to get that message across?
Or the other artists we've dealt
with?
Yeah, I feel like reaching
out to
artists is frustrating.
I'll say that it's frustrating
because I don't know from
experience, artists don't seem to
comprehend well, for some reason.
And then you would think
that, all right, I'll just talk to
the manager and then you get
to management.
The management doesn't comprehend
well. And it's like,
what am I saying?
That is not being understood
correctly. Like when we
want to have somebody interviewed
here and we reach out and say,
hey, yo, we want to have you on the
show, bring you up to talk about the
album and, you know, the new single,
we need you here at this time, here,
here.
Are. We got to be up there at that
one. Like I got to be there by that.
Yes, that's that's
what I said. And then if they
have an artist, has a manager, you
think, all right, the manager is
going to be able to get them here,
get them here on time and we
can do this. And then when that
doesn't happen now you just sitting
here scratching your head like, yo,
where was the disconnect?
Where was the mis communication.
Like what happened between
my communication with your manager
and communication between your
manager and you
that caused things to
go awry is disarray.
What I was thinking, too, is,
for instance, you have
people that come from out of town to
come here, that don't
have sometimes the jaded view
of, like a lot of us do about the
city that we grew up in.
Right?
So somebody have come here from out
of town and they'll say to
themselves, hey, I like the scene
and what I've found, and I want to
be a manager there. You just seems
to work at better than the person
who's been here a while and tries to
manage it like they're managing
their best friend, from what
I've experienced is a lot of times
artists want to get
managers before they're ready.
If you're not getting your phone
blown up, you don't need somebody.
Yeah, I think people get a manager
because they think that's what is
needed.
They're not a booking agent, but
you have people that
you ask like, well, where's my
manager at? Oh, you know where we
grew up together.
Are they going to school for this?
Like what are their order?
You know, they just do x, y, z.
And that's sometimes when things get
lost in translation.
What I don't like is the party
promoter who becomes a manager,
because most times they're just
trying to set up the client for
parties.
If you're trying to be an artist to
perform, you want somebody who like,
you know, can get you in those
places.
But I asked a friend of the show,
Wayne.
I said, what for management
companies. Do you know of an Austin
like major ones? He says Laurel
management, True Grit,
888 and why and how.
And I also wondered what those type
of management services,
how many of those are reaching out,
are looking into the scene to try to
manage hip hop, hip hop and R&B.
Also a lot them don't have to settle
for their friends right.
I'm familiar with a couple of them,
and I know they're
either are or have been some
artists from the scene who have been
represented by a
couple of those companies.
Well, some you said "I always
thought about" You like you
know, somebody gets their friend
or somebody they grew up with or
somebody they're close with to end
up being their manager.
And I get it.
It makes sense in an artist's
head, they're like, you know, this
guy's with me.
They're here all the time.
They see me working.
They can help me out, especially if
they're going to be around and want
to kind of reap some type of benefit
after it. Let's say I blow
up and like, yeah, they help me
get there so I can understand their
line of thinking a lot.
You know, I just make them the
manager.
But like you say, like, what are
they going for school for this.
And to my knowledge, there
isn't really a class
or like that's not a major in
college to be a music manager.
Yeah. Like business management
is a major.
But like, I
don't know anybody that has gone to
school and say like, oh, well, no,
I'm majoring in, you know, music,
you know, music management, trying
to be a manager. When I get out of
here, I'm trying to trying to rap
artists. I think that just
for a lot of people, I think that's
something you fall into because
you just happen to know people
and you have made
connections doing whatever it was
that you were doing.
Like most managers, I think in hip
hop have stumbled into it, like
I would say, the late Holbein,
who at one point was
managing Troy and he
started out he was Troy's manager, I
don't know who's managing Troy now,
though. Not my business, but
I know Holbein was at one point, and
I believe Holbein was managing smoke
design and styles P upon
his untimely
passing.
But I don't think Holbein went to
school for it. I think Holbein just
happened to be a guy who was from
New York, and moving around the city
made some connections and felt like
I can help further
an artist's career, especially after
helping build up Troy.
So I think a lot of people
come into management that
way, but it's not
for everybody. I'll say that
everybody can't do.
And I think most people think
like jumping into management is
something easy that everybody can
do. It's a skill.
I will say that.
Yeah, there's a lot of former
managers running around, but.
I'm one of them.
Right. Same. I'm not.
Yeah. Same.
Yeah. You just need you know
somebody that like you said it's
like like a whole vein. Like it's
just a dog and just doing everything
they can to help, their, their
artist out the best way they can.
But I just think it really does
help sometimes to have a fresh pair
of eyes. And that's why I'm a fan of
the out of town person becoming a
manager.
If you think about some of the
artists that we've dealt with, their
managers from out of town.
Yeah, you know, I think Mike
Milano's group is and
I know Bruce Frisch, that people
from out of town. So you, you have
this more a mentality
of this can work because
they're not seeing the same
limitations. People from here do we
talk may you talk about on the phone
the other day about how when,
you know, I come visit your
apartment, I think, oh, fresh
apartments, nice and clean is cool
over here. When I leave, you might
notice like, oh, well, you know, the
couch is not as comfortable at the
sheet has been moved.
And so that's what we, like we said
about artists here in the city, they
hindered themselves because they had
this negative view. But when you get
a manager that doesn't have that
view, I think it definitely helps
for sure.
For sure. Piggybacking on your
point about having a fresh pair of
eyes or somebody being from out of
town, I think, and
my, my or our experience,
those have kind of, I won't say have
been the best, but
have probably been the easiest to
work with because some
of those individuals are coming from
a bigger market or coming from a
much bigger city in a much
busier scene, to where
they have this perspective of,
well, you know, out there in L.A.
or in New York or in Atlanta when,
you know, somewhere in Miami, like,
this is how it works.
I'm coming here thinking that
I got to do the same thing that I
was doing out there.
And it's not working like that out
here, and I'm having to adjust,
but it's an easier adjustment
to do it because I was talking
to the process fresh manager, and he
was like, I'm coming from L.A.
and he was like, everything
here is in emails and email.
He was like, it's kind of an insult
in L.A.
to shoot somebody an email like, you
don't like do that.
Like if they know you and I just
need a favor.
But like here, everything is worked
out. Email. And he was like, I mean,
he was like, I can do it.
That's fairly easy for me to shoot
off email and just wait for the
response.
I just think people coming from
those situations,
like you said, have a different
perspective on it and looking it out
and like, well, I like this.
This is cool, this is easy.
This scene and moving around here is
a lot more manageable than moving
around in LA or New York.
And everything is go, go go go go.
I can take time and shoot this
email off and then sit over here and
we can sit out and plan the next
marketing for whatever single or
album that we got coming or show.
Yeah, no I agree.
And I also just hope that the people
in this city are the managers out
there. Obviously from the companies
I named.
Doing their due diligence to try
to help out the hip hop and R&B
scene as well, for sure.
I hope those companies and
any other one that wasn't named in
the city are looking.
We are looking inward
to see what talent is ready
and can be prepped for that next
level, because I think that will
help. We have all of these entities
apparently have all of these
entities in the city that
aren't looking inward.
And I think that kind of stifles
the seen, like if we
have management companies in here,
but nobody's looking at
the artists to say, I want
it, they're ready. They're a star.
Let's see if we can get them
to that star level.
And you just letting it fall by the
wayside like yeah
that's not really progressing
anything here.
So hopefully, you know, I mean, it's
one of the things I want to see
improved this year. But we'll see,
you know make sure you management's
up to par guys and gals.
Yeah. And don't get one before
you need one.
Because I think that hurts a lot of
you.
And get someone who is competent.
No. God.
Get someone that's competent.
I've met a lot of y'all that are
just not competent, man.
All say.
We'll be right back after this quick
break.
And now it's time for Hip Hop Fix.
Some people's favorite segment.
One of my favorite segments.
We all learn something new every
day.
Yeah, let's let's let's get
educated.
You go ahead and go first.
Well, this weekend, tomorrow to
be exact.
Well, not tomorrow.
The 28th is the 28th Monday?
What is it, Monday?
No, no no, no, it's Sunday.
Sunday?
Sunday. Because I got a doctor's
appointment on 29th.
The 28th, we will be celebrating
the birthdays of Rick Ross,
J. Cole, and Rock
Kim.
Now, I knew J.
Cole and Rock Kim shared a birthday.
I had no idea that was Rick Ross's
birthday.
So little fun fact there.
Yeah, I had no idea either.
Wow.
Interesting.
My first fact is
the TLC biggest song, waterfalls,
was produced by Organized Noise,
which is the production team that
discovered Outkast.
When they were drafting that song
and coming up with it, they asked
CeeLo to
sing a reference for it to give to
TLC.
So out there in the world, there is
a Cee-Lo version of waterfalls
that I would love to hear, and that
is a reference. Wasn't that it's
going to be rough, but great.
I would love to hear that.
Let's stick with the Dungeon Family
Frank Ocean song, Pink
Matter off of Channel Orange.
Yeah. Oh, that features Andre 3000.
Apparently there's a version out
there with Big Boy on it.
I've heard it.
I heard it, and when I found fact.
No.
But apparently the label
is what stopped the version
with Big Boi and Andre coming out,
because apparently somebody didn't
want a Outkast
reunion or an outcast
reunion. I don't think
Big Boi and Andre looked at it like
that, but I think the fans would
have been like, oh my God, they're
getting back together.
So somebody at the label is like,
yeah, just let this be a
Andre thing.
I remember too, when that happened,
Andre was on the original song
version, came out with Big Boi, and
Andre himself had to come out and
say, what? You know, I had no idea,
but they were gonna try to add Big
Boi to it, right?
Basically, I don't like you not
gonna do an outcast reunion on
somebody else's song, which just not
a thing. So yeah, that
was a whole weird myth, man.
Yeah, I've heard
the label do not hear anything.
We're huge Wu-Tang fans here.
Ghostface being my favorite.
I'm assuming yours.
Yeah. Ghostface,
the people don't know about Ghostface
is he has a wave of crime
in the 90s that he was doing
against other rappers.
I was digging around in there trying
to find the fact, and I ran across
this fact that at one point in time,
Ghostface Killah of Wu-Tang clan
broke rapper Mason's jaw.
May spoke on it after an incident
back in the mid 2000,
when Joe Budden was live streaming
and got slammed.
By that punch by Raekwon.
Yeah.
I think he was two past inmates at
the time was on the whole, you know,
I just don't know what hip hop is
going and getting violent.
I remember when I got punched in the
mouth by Ghostface and my
jaw got wide and I got.
While I mean he hit you pretty had
if your jaw widened.
Man.
I mean, he broke something.
Man, so yeah. Ghostface, I'm glad
you've calmed down.
I think I would say he's calm down,
I would say. I mean, I saw that
whole Action Bronson situation.
Yeah. I would say go for calm down
a lot.
That was just funny.
This is my third and final fake
quiz crap
- ah! What's wrong with me today?
Chris Webber apparently produced
two songs for Nas,
which was Blunt Ashes, which I
believe is on The Lost Tapes album.
Yeah, and he produced survive in the
times, which is
on, I think, like the 10th
anniversary of
Illmatic.
I believe I believe those on the
10th anniversary Illmatic.
But yeah, apparently Chris Webber,
I knew he was into like producing
music and I knew he,
I guess, quote unquote rapped.
I've heard some raps from Chris
Webber don't look it up.
So I'd say don't you don't want to
be disappointed.
But, I knew those things.
And he was saying he got the chance
to work with Nas.
He played some stuff in Nas and not
ended up liking what he heard in
those songs. Ended up becoming, as I
said, Blunt Ashes and
Surviving the Times.
Never knew that, though.
Never knew they were produced by
Chris Webber, all star forward for
the Sacramento Kings.
No wonder they didn't win.
Act like I didn't hear that
the next. The following year.
When we found a fact, you said the
same thing.
Well, I say, oh, yeah.
I did say he had been focused on
basketball. He would have won game
six.
I would say it to his face, but I.
Mean, no, Chris Webber like 16.
I'm five. Seven.
I'm like, yeah, I'm going from
these.
But, my final
fact is, so this movie is considered
a classic. I don't think it's a
classic Forrest Gump.
Do you think it's a classic?
No. Why not?
Well, because he's a wizard, and he
was a part of every moment of
American history? I don't want to see that.
You know, he sucked anyway.
And I'm a huge Tom Hanks fan.
The first person I've ever heard say
that movie sucked.
Mom didn't like it.
I did think about that.
Anyway, everybody knows Forrest
Gump. You know, he's like, I say,
that magical wizard who goes to
every place at once throughout
history, his best friend's
name was what?
Bubba?
Was played by a guy who.
God, I can't say his name is,
Mick. Mick? Mick, you.
I can't, I can't pronounce it
either. I can't.
Here's a waiting exhale.
An idea with a lot of things.
Yeah. He's awesome.
Black dynamite.
He's the one that got beat up in the
pool hall.
Anyway, he played the character
in Forest Gump, but Tupac
auditioned to play Bubba Gump.
What?
Yeah.
Yeah, he. I think he got to the end
of it.
I'm not getting it. Yeah.
In another it. There's an alternate
world out there where Tupac is Bubba
Gump shrimp.
With the swollen lip.
Yeah, he had a.
Little swollen man
look, usually before the gum.
You know what I'm talking about.
Very, South in that
movie, right?
Yeah, man, that's that's
crazy. I mean, I know Tupac was in
his acting, but
I don't know if I could see Tupac
doing that.
Maybe he would have said I didn't
want the lips.
Possibly. Possibly.
But. But that was a good.
I had no idea that.
Yo, Tupac!
Whoever was casting Anthony Mackie?
Yeah. they need to be fired.
Somebody cast him as Tupac and
Martin Luther King Jr.
He wasn't too bad a Martin.
He was a small one.
He didn't need to be Martin Luther King Jr.
I saidMLK Jr. was like
five, eight.
You know, he about six four.
And now, ladies and gentlemen, it's
time for unpopular opinion.
Refresh himself.
All right.
The internet was kind of in a frenzy
because rap ish
that was created by Issa Rae, that.
Got Canceled.
Got cancelled, based off of city
girls.
City girls canceled too?
I don't think so obviously they're
no longer a group.
Yeah, I think so, too.
But, it got canceled after its
second season.
A lot of people were in uproar.
And then the main reason everybody
was pointing to why it got canceled
was because not enough people were
watching.
So that got me thinking.
You know, I think this is one
of those things where people are
going to blame streaming services
for shows being canceled
and the viewership
not being there.
So my unpopular opinion is
streaming services ruined
the consumer experience.
And I say that because, like with a
show like rap ish and.
A winning time show.
Like Winning Time. It also was on
Max.
It came out that Winning Time was
canceled because it didn't have the
viewership that I guess, and
HBO was anticipating.
And I think that's because of
streaming services, I think that's because
people look at it like, well, I
don't have to watch this on Sunday
night.
I can just wait until
all just watch it on the app when I
feel like it, or just sit back and
let every episode play, and then I
just binge it and I
could just do that, which I hear
people do with a lot of show, like,
you know, I just let the season
finish off and something else to
watch or do, and then I just come
back to the show and just stream it
all at once. I don't want to have to
wait week to week,
but for those, I
would say that's a privilege in this
day and time, because there was a
time where you had to just wait till
the next week and anticipate what
was going on, and if the season
ended up on a cliffhanger, you had
to wait X amount of months
before you saw it.
And I saw people complaining like,
oh man, you know, they're
taking away from TV because they
just pushing this stuff out and
shooting shows and movies out so
quickly now, you know, that's just
ruins everything when I was like
that. But I would say the same
about the same amount of time is
going by that it was, say,
in the 90s or even the early 2000s
before streaming hit.
Like if a show was part of
a network's fall lineup.
You had to wait till next fall for
that to come back around to see the
next season.
Like, that's just how it works.
Nobody like one show isn't a part
of the spring lineup, and then
you going to catch it the next
season and fall out.
It was don't go like that.
But I think,
the fact that people have become
slaves to the binge to
binge watching, I think that has
kind of ruined the experience
for the consumer because nobody is
like, you don't go see a movie
because you're just like, I wait for
it to hit streaming services.
It's going to hit a Netflix or
Amazon Prime or Apple
TV+ or somebody at some
point, and it'll be out in the next
few months, because movies don't
stay in theaters as long as they
used to. At all.
And I'm like, they like some movies.
I like, I just I'm not going to go
pay to see that. I never would have
it. That'll be on HBO Max.
It's a Warner Brothers movie.
It'll be on Max.
And so I did like Barbie.
I didn't really plan
on going to see Barbie, so I was
just like, that's definitely going
to be on Max. I'll just wait to be
four to be on Max.
And I've seen it now because it's on
HBO, it's on Max now.
But I think that has taken away from
people wanting to get up
and go to the movie theaters or that
whole thing when they simultaneously
premiere movie in theaters and
on the streaming service at the same
time. I don't get that.
I don't understand it. It sounds
like you're killing one of your
revenue streams, but I but
when it comes to like TV shows, I
think it has taken away the
experience of sitting down, enjoying
it, the anticipation of what
happens next week when
you can just like I just wait until
this, this passes and
I'll sit down and watch everything.
Now, there are exceptions to the
rule and.
I'll say it, it's power.
People stream power.
When eight people watch power before
you come out and
start as this weird thing where they
drop the episode at midnight so
before it even airs on television.
So you've already watched it, but it
seems to be continuously getting the
viewership that.
It needs to on for
people watching stars.
But a show like rap ish,
where people that seem to like
really like the show and we're
really excited about the show,
it didn't get the viewership, and I
think that was partially due to
streaming. Y'all liked
it, but what days did it come out
on? Wednesday?
Yeah. Y'all didn't like it enough to
sit down on Wednesday or you were
watching something else on
Wednesday. They took priority over
that and you were like, I'll just
watch this on the app.
Like, I can just cast it to my TV
or I can log on to my account and I
could just watch it there.
And I think that hurts the
viewership.
I'll be honest, I don't know how
watching something on the streaming
service for like a max
account for the
viewership from television.
I don't know how that works, but
clearly not enough of y'all was
watching the show, either.
Or you would stick around and the
same with winning time. Which I
really was disappointed about
winning time because.
Especially out and.
Yeah, that was that was trash
HBO y'all gotta do better endings,
man. I don't know what it is with
y'all, but like, yeah,
it was this whole uproar about how,
you know, the great shows get
canceled before they time.
And you know, y'all not really
watching the y'all not watching
these shows. And y'all say y'all
want great television.
Y'all want great television with
Black people in a job not sitting
down and watching it. I don't
believe y'all are sitting down
watching it when it airs.
And I think that matters a little
more. I could be totally wrong, but
yeah, I think streaming has kind of
taken out the anticipation of
waiting for the next
week when you can just let the
entire season play out and not watch
it and just come back to it
when I feel like.
And I think that at the end of the
day is hard because like I said, I
don't know how.
Streaming. It is accounting for
the viewership and I feel myself
being repetitive.
So we'll end it right here.
Yeah, I agree with that one.
I had a take about music too, but
I would have extended things.
Like even with rabbit ish.
I feel like I saw more tweets about
it being canceled than I thought
when it was on.
So I do think viewership play, but
no, I do think the consumer
experience has changed because
the expectations lower.
So yeah, I agree.
Yeah. And I'll say it isn't get out.
Rap ish.
But like you see more tweets about
it being canceled in.
I saw about it when it was
on or when people were watching it.
And for this to be an ESA ratio
and where y'all rock with ether.
I didn't see y'all live tweeting the
way I did. Insecure.
Like insecure came on.
It was a thing to sit down and
watch. Let's all, as a community
get online and watch this together.
I didn't see that with rap.
I didn't see that in the first
season and I didn't see it this
season. I saw y'all be in uproar
about the ending of season two,
but outside of that, I didn't hear
y'all talking about anything else
about this show.
So, I mean, were y'all really
watching it?
And now let's get
informed and laugh all at the same
time. Here is Confucius
reads the news.
Started off the Comedy Central's
flagship show.
The Daily Show has been without
a host. As Trevor Noah left, there's
been a rotating cast of people
from Charlamagne Tha God to
World, which junior was hosting.
It was that lady that dated a
50 cent white lady.
Chelsea Handler.
Chelsea Handler, she did it.
I didn't see hers.
Just for like a week or two.
And then I saw Marlon Wayans.
And so now
they finally found a host
and is none other than Jon Stewart,
who?
The guy who ran it for 16 years and
yeah, made it become a powerhouse
that he is now that he had a host
before that with, Craig Kilborn.
There you go.
And he didn't really go that far,
but Jon Stewart made it, groomed it
to come show that it is.
So he's coming back.
Leading up to the presidential
election this year.
He's only can be on a Mondays, but
every other day will be a rotating
cast of the comedians that are on
the show.
So I think it'd be dope.
I think people want to see Jon back
in it.
I also think they gave him a whole
lot of.
I definitely think they gave him a
whole lot of money.
Because he was he had to show an
apple, but apparently left there
because.
The bag was right.
Here. Now, because he was trying to
talk about something on the show.
They told him no.
So he's like, I'm out not doing it.
Not I'm not.
I'm not mad at it.
I made that stance.
So back in New Hampshire, they had
their primaries.
And Trump, of course, came in first.
But Nikki Haley got over 40%
of the vote out there as well.
And that was a way higher number
than pundits predicted she would
get.
I'm very sure what.
I'm telling you is going to be Nikki
Haley and Joe Biden in November.
I wouldn't be shocked if it's her.
She said she's not dropping out.
Good for her. Ron DeSantis also said
that.
And he already bend the knee.
Already bend the knee.
Got to bend the knee, man.
I saw a video of Tim Scott
and Vivek Ramaswamy.
At Trump side of the rally and,
was again looking like their
obedient servants. They, and,
Senator Tim Scott said,
he told Trump he loved most aid.
oh my God.
You think there's, like, an agreement?
You think Trump make him sign an
agreement to say that.
I don't know what he does, man.
I don't know what he does, but
man. So yeah,
we'll see. I mean, Nikki Haley got a
lot of momentum.
Clearly 40 over 40%
in the New Hampshire primary moving
forward. Yeah, man.
She could yeah.
She's a threat.
The Oscar nominations came out.
I thought out in a frenzy about
that, too.
Yeah, it goes to Barbie,
the director Greta Gerwig.
Gerwig didn't get nominated for best
director.
And Margot Robbie wasn't.
Nominated for Best Actress.
But Ryan Gosling was nominated for
Best Supporting Actor.
Which is kind.
Of and kind of what
happened in a movie, basically.
But to be fair, the movie
was painted it, of course, that men
were admittedly superior in
a position they should be
Ryan Gosling, very much where the
yeah, this is kind of fair.
So you got he came out with a
statement.
And he's been in the business long
enough.
Yeah. He's basically saying that he
that the movie wouldn't have been
what it was. America Ferrera who was
in the movie got nominated.
Which I didn't see enough people
like championing that.
But, I guess I'll still made that.
She don't take backs like that.
I don't know.
Do you bathe?
Oh, she's a hit that she on bathe
every day.
But.
Look, man, we reported the news,
right? That was in the news.
We're reporting news, right?
It's a while since now, but I do
think that's unfair.
Barbie was a critically acclaimed
movie. Yeah, and Oppenheimer
got, I think, the most nominations
yet for this year.
Shocking.
Robert Downey Jr is nominated.
I mean, shout out to RJ, but.
Have you seen happen?
No. I've seen.
You probably won't be honest
with you like Chris.
No.
I like Christopher Nolan, but I'm
just tired of. I'm tired
of movies.
That are built around World
War One or World War Two, and
there's no Black people in them
because they act like we were not in
those wars.
So I don't really need to see
another movie about the nuclear bomb
Hmhm Bay.
I want to see it.
I'll go right here, man.
Let me know, how was.
Drama in God of the Breakfast Club?
Famous radio personality.
I think, you know, he's in the Radio
Hall of Fame. So, Breakfast Club
goals and.
He has been very vocal about
President Joe Biden not running
again.
I've read the article that was in
Politico, and it was Charlamagne was
trying to justify it by saying that
he feels like Biden hasn't
lived up to any of his promises,
and that
Democrats are being lazy by not
trying to find an alternative.
Not the biggest fan of that
rhetoric, not because I'm a Joe
Biden supporter, but
because Charlamagne is
not the most qualified person, in
my opinion, to take such a strong
stance in politics.
I think for him, because he's now
jumped into that world through The
Daily Show, he started
to try to get into that Jon Stewart
lane, but I don't think that's his
angle. It's like how stern is
political but not super political.
I also think it's dangerous too,
because you all means comments and
audience tends to go run to
the Shade Room or Hollywood
like all those places, and they
bash, you know, President Biden
every chance they get.
Look, man, I know Biden
said he clearing off student debt.
It's clear that a lot of it.
He cleared that student debt, man.
So yeah.
Charlemagne made the point of two
that Biden is just not a showman
like Trump is like, you know, Trump
takes credit for things that he
didn't do.
And Biden keeps quiet about things,
you know. So.
I mean, but that's a personality
trait that ain't like a presidential
trait. And yeah, this is Biden
is not that guy.
So I mean, he's not the guy to just
jump and say, well, I did this and
this and this. He's he's he's not
we've had many presidents like that.
Yeah.
Rex Clinton was like that.
Slick Willie strikes again.
You know what. Yeah. That's Confucius
reason to.
Oh. Right.
I don't know why you threw it in.
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